The Nikon Z6III After 2 Weeks: The Good, and The Bad
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Z8 and Z6iii would be my choice for nikon wedding setup now
Why not 2 z6iii?
@@der_vegane_bre7923 z8 for photos, z6iii for video
@@der_vegane_bre7923 i like to work with a high resolution body , especially when photographing groups.
Yeah I've got the Z8 and a Z6ii and would love to have the Z6iii to replace the Z6ii for the focusing. Dream team!!
Its my current setup. Has not tested it too much yet. But on 2 events it worked perfectly 😊
YES! Please keep badgering Nikon to release a dual slot video recording firmware update!
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Even if there's a limit to which formats one can access in dual video recording, that's perfectly fine. I still haven't filmed beyond 4k for most shoots. If there was dual recording, I'd switch from Fuji to this immediately.
Thanks for this video, Taylor! I am a full timer in my 17th year, and finally found the camera to upgrade from my D750s.
I love using the 40 F2. It's so good!
is it better than the Nikon 35mm 1.8 z
It really is! My friend joked (in a nice way) about how small it is and I replied it was just shy, then we saw the photos and were blown away by a lens that is that [relatively] cheap. It's amazing for the price point and convinced my to invest more into primes as a result.
Great review and needed upgrade over the older Z6II . The USD is about 40% stronger than most Asia pacific markets, so in Australia right now the price listed is a crazy $4500 AUD, New Zealandanders will pay a whopping $5000 NZD and in Europe a massive 3000 euros . It's just too expensive outside USA right now, with most international currencies taking a big hit against USD .
I can tell you're shooting video in standard (photo) ibis mode. when shooting handheld video with nikon use sport ibis (should be called video). you won't get the sudden micro-jerks, looks much better.
I got a Z6III !!!!!!!! It is Amazing !!!! And what I have been wanting !!!!!! Thanks to You Taylor :) :) :)
Another fan of that 40mm. What a great lens
Yes agree with you on Video Backups - even if the backup was optional and the Quality was say max to 1080P 60 FPS this would be sufficient as a backup; just in case ( unlikely with CFE but still possible ) the main card gets corrupted / damaged. Also agree that pre-capture Raw option - would be handy
I suggested to the Nikon rep last week during the hands on, even if they capped dual recording at say, 4K60p, we videographers would be happy. So, until that happens, I have to keep my Sony kit for video, and only use my Z8, when I have full control to do something over, IF I lose any footage. so far, it's been fine, and the image quality is superb using the LUT with NLOG.
I hope Nikon will come with two new DX cameras soon. A Z50 II similar to size to the Z50 but with USB-C and a lot of new features. And a Z60! A DX version of the Z6III, same body and with an all features just slightly cheaper than the full frame camera .... :) ...
I think they need to come up with a mirrorless version/update of the fantastic D500. I shoot a lot of sports and action, and me and tons of my fellow Nikon shooters shoot the D500. One of my friends only shoots the D500 and has three or four bodies. Mine still looks and feels new and does everything I ask from it, so I won't be looking to replace it in the short term, but there does seem to be a gap in the Nikon lineup for a similar DX body suitable for sports and action.
Nobody gets a charger with the Zf or Z6iii. I heard that we can blame Europe, according to Matt Irwin. They have a law that will kick in soon that forbids electronic items to include a charger in an effort to decrease electronic waste. You can use the older charger so they presume you already have one (I did, but I just gave mine away when I sold my D750). Mostly a phone thing (they are responsible for forcing Apple to USB-c charge their phones), but cameras got caught up in the law. I will be buying a new charger for the Zf. And yes, the 40mm f2 is by far my most used lens now. I even let my F mount 50mm f1.4 G go with the D750.
Great video as ever Taylor. So glad you are considering coming back to Nikon for your weddings.
At the moment I am shooting with a Z8 and the Z6ii for my weddings and I want to upgrade to the Z6ii for the Z6iii. Did you see Tony Northups video about the lack of Dynamic range on the shadow areas, he made a big meal out of how crap it is, but I'm thinking Nikon isn't his fav brand at the moment as they don't give his pre-released cameras to try out.
Any way in your 2 weeks of using the camera have you come across any issues with noisy shadow areas in lowlight. As long is it's better that the Z8 after 1600 iso I'm happy to get the Z6iii.
I wanted to buy a Z6III, but in Poland the price is around $3,300, which is a crazy price.
I have a ZF + Z6II, I also do weddings. For now, this set is enough for me. I have a question, does AF work in the same way in the Z6III as in the ZF? And are the color of the RAW files similar in ZF and Z6III?
z8 is cheaper than z6iii where i live
@@FeRoOOo71 wtf, where do you live dude?
Here it is priced at 3k euros (Z6III) which is a lot
@@ArsenijeRadenovic i live in Russia, Nikon z6iii is priced 4400$ and the z8 is 3500$, resellers lost their minds lol, prices are high because we are sanctioned and don't have official Nikon stores
@@FeRoOOo71 Yeah I know the story, I remember when we were under sanctions. Hang in there brother...
Or fly to Belgrade and hang around with your fellow Russians here and buy a camera lol
I want a Zf do you recommend? dziękuję
Nikon has been hitting homers since the announcement of the Z9. Really liking what they did with the ZF (not crippling the camera like they did with the DF), and the now the Z6 III. Really pushing the tech, and blurring the lines in many ways between the upper level cameras and their lower level cameras.
Now they need to give us a Z30 sized camera with the tech of the ZF/Z6III with a crop sensor, for $1,600 (a la the Sony a6700)...
The Tamron lenses are much better than they probably should be. I used to use Nikon's old 180mm f/2.8 prime. It wasn't a fast autofocus lens by any stretch, but the IQ was beautiful, and it was small and light.
I use now the Nikon (read Tamron made) 70-180/2.8, not because it's inexpensive, because it's much smaller and lighter than the Nikon 70-200/2.8 VR lenses. Gives me the ability to compress the background, and gives me extra reach beyond my 85 for the rare times I want that extra reach. The IQ is fantastic. Not perfect for some people I'm sure, but it's fantastic for me.
Shooting weddings on a z6iii and zf currently. So far so good. I wish battery life was better though.
And if these companies aren't going to give us chargers, they should have 1st party dual chargers for sale like Fuji does. One of the more useful accessories.
Yes Nikon needs an EN-ELD.,that has more juice and a USB C port on the battery. They should have released it with the Z6iii. The Z8 need a high capacity battery as well.
AF from z6iii vs zf is the same ? especially in lowligth ?
do you sense an image quality difference between the 2?
I am looking forward to seeing what Nikon does with the Nikon Z5 Mark 2. Hopefully on the future Nikon Z5 Mark 2 they only change the screen to the screen that is on the Panasonic S1H and that the Nikon Z5 Mark 2 has unlimited recording time limit with no crop in 4k 60P.
Can you please make a comparison video between Z7ii vs Z6iii.
The price of Z7ii is lesser (around $2000) than Z6iii ( amazon US).
Please make a comparison video . Or please suggest which camera would make a value for money purchase.
Taylor, the Auto- ISO on nikon starts at the ISO you actually are. That means, if you are at ISO 1600 and want to change to AUTO ISO, your starting lowest ISO will be 1600 ! So then you have to anyway change it to the lowest one. That means not so different from Sony.
Taylor! You shoot so many systems and edit your probably one of the best people to ask about color science! I switched from Sony a7r3 to Fuji xt5 and I'm convinced I see differences even with my raws. My heart is in landscapes but I moved from Canada to Scotland and I'm heavily considering doing weddings.
Do you find differences or prefer any of your systems for color science? Anything should be achievable in RAW but what's your take?
6:14 I always thought that cameras should come in 2 options for the screen if they’re not like the GH6 or the A7RIV, the T series for tilt screen and the F series for the fully articulating one.
It will be a great camera to consider when it finally goes on sale.
I moved to the A7R5 because of the Tamron 20-40mm it just covers what I do and I was sick of changing lenses. I wish Nikon would get it.
The two change requests seem to apply even more to the Z9, with dual CFX-B card slots and the bigger battery which could have a USB-C port.
Tony Northrup tries to badmouth at Nikon every possible chance. His video about dynamic range was blown up. He tries to create insecurity among Nikon users or interested buyers. Look at his miserable "Nikon Zf Review". The comments on this review speak for themselves.
I ignore everything he says.
I stop watching their videos a while ago, along with bashing Nikon he has set objectively incorrect stuff with full confidence. Now if their videos were off the cuff it would be one thing, but you could tell they're meticulously planned. I've used all three mirrorless systems and I got to say Canon was a lot more on unimpressive than what it hyped up to be. Great system but seemed on par with its peers not any better as many canon shooters will try to sell you.
I unsubscribed from the Northrups only this week. I got tired of their endless Nikon bashing and their nakedly greedy promotion of sponsors’ products.
Tempted to buy this as a backup camera to my Z9.
It won't happen this year but I might sell my z6 II for this camera next year. I love my 40mm lens. It is a very under rated lens. My copy is very sharp. It has a lot of micro contrast from what I can tell. I see so much detail especially when shooting black and white. I agree about the card slots and the rear LCD screen working both ways. My first DSLR was a Canon T6s and it has a fully articulating screen like that. It comes in handy when you're in a spot where you can't stand behind the camera. I had to pay for a wrong just last month and I may have another one to pay for next year. I might not can get a camera at all next year. We'll see.
What do you think about stabilisation in video compared to other brands ? It seems to be a little choppy at 3:00 (the ibis shift to the right). I see some wobble effect on the side of the image at 1:22 too. The Lumix S5ii is certainly better on this point ? Thx for the beautiful shots !
I notice the ibis wobbles too... it seems to be said that Nikon ibis does a great job at longer focal lengths but at what wider angle do the wobbles kick in? Idk 🤷
Are there certain wobble-inducing movements one would need to practice NOT making when filming? 🤷
Of course a gimbal with ibis switched off would remove wobbles... but also remove the convenience of hybrid hand held shooting....
Or a catalyst browse style post stabilisation software from gyro data (with different levels of smoothness!) - does this exist for Nikon?
Lots of questions... no answers from me 😅
have you tried sport mode? To me it seems more natural
I hope Nikon can improve this with firmware updates
To get the Z8 to perform well with the eVR, the shutter speed has to be set at 1/250 or higher, I suspect this is the same with the Z9, Zf and Z6 III. I can say about the Z6/6 II as I no longer have one but, anyone with one of the other Z cameras can test it. You can see how it looks as I have a video on my channel where I tested this.
So My two ZF's and Z6III didn't come with chargers. I think the Z50 came with one but the Z30 and Zfc's didn't either. So I ordered them. I guess they need more money since the cameras are cheap as possible? Cheers!
9:32 Nikon is saving money by only including USB-C comply with EU laws. Most electronics manufacturers will be adopting no battery charger, to reduce ewaste.
Please encourage Nikon to enable video recording to both card slots. It's ridiculous that they can't.
Do you mean simultaneously (might be bandwidth limited) or the ability to record photo slot 1 video slot 2 etc?
The z6iii is £2700 in the UK. For £600 more I can get a z8. That’s a trickier decision than deciding if it’s time to upgrade.
Wait for Z8ii tbh. There’s some features in Z6iii better than Z8.
@@NCMEDIC216 There’s always something new on the horizon. If you keep waiting, you’ll wait forever.
@@AethersPhil Not true. I bought the Z6ii on sale and then a couple months later I realized that’s because the Z6iii was coming out. I have so much regret for not waiting.
@@NCMEDIC216 Z6 II is a great camera, so You should not have any regrets.
@@BrakDanych-f1w I have the Z6ii and while I don’t have regrets I feel like I’ve already grown out of it haha.
Hey man! Thanks for the videos. I have had 2 of these cameras now and whenever recording after 1-2 seconds it says recording interrupted and stops recording. I’ve changed sd cards and batteries etc but still keeps doing it. Once again I’ve sent one back already and the new one is doing the same thing. Have you heard of this issue or run into it. I use really nice cards so don’t see that being an issue. Z8 works perfectly fine with the same cards.
Now I am not sure if I should buy Z6III or Z8 mainly for wedding and very fast moving objects shoots.
Will Kimi Räikkönen still be the most resent champion from Ferrari before Nikon will allow to record video for dual card slots?
How do you feel about the Nikon Z6 iii's dynamic range? Is as good as the Z6 or Z6 ii? What about the Sony a7 iv?
I have a recent video about it with raw file downloads
I would love to see option to move the af spot by sliding the thumb on the screen while using evf - like canon. That is such an awesome function.
That option is now available in the Z6iii.
@@doogieham Didn't know that, that is actually really awesome and useful!
I think external recording to an m.2 NVME was a missed opportunity.
I’ve had all the different stones except 93. And I’ve had the two for a while
The 62 has many good things, but the total lack of function buttons is annoying Compared to so many function buttons on the Sony also the screen on the a75R it’s just fantastic.
I always been a Nikon fan but I tend to use my Sony much Moore do to function buttons.
The location of fn is ok if other fn buttons. But no such thing
How is it my Z6 with an adapter was $2200, and the Z6iii is $4300?? that's a hell of lot of inflation. Either the Z6 was under priced because they new it wasn't ready for the market (and or wanted to get people into mirrorless), or the Z6iii is over-priced trying to recover some R&D costs... 🤷🤷
I returned it as we (wife and I) hate the grip/ergo on the Z6III body. The thumb grip actually extends off the edge of the body for cryin out loud. Who holds a camera with their thumb lining up with the side of a body? Just feels like a block with a finger grip attached to it.
was tempted to upgrade my z6ii's for this but recent in depth reviews have shown that the half stacked sensor has a lot of impact on dynamic range - ie the DR is nowhere near as good any more. For me, that's a complete deal breaker unfortunately :(
But since they've been videos showing that it has been overblown by people. Check videos like Kelly Sparks or testcams showing more "correct" methodologies in my opinion.
@@Willymaze thanks i'll take a look
yes, i have get z9 and z8 to garbage. they have less dinamic range and more iso noise then d850 and z7ii. totally unusable camera.
Thinking about upgrading my z6ii to this.
100% needs to record Video to both cards.that's what stopped me buying Z9 or Z8.
You say you split your time between Sony and Nikon because of RUclips and it is not the smart thing to do. So if that was not a factor, would you just do Sony or Nikon?
Use the best tool for the Job at hand. Hopefully this can be addressed by firmware. But it could be an Exoeed 7 limitation?
Always appreciate a review from someone who actually uses the camera, and isn't in a studio making an idiotic clickbait video..... (talking to you Tony Northrup).
What do you prefer for wedding photography sony or nikon?
Both are great. It’s honestly a toss up. All things considered for photography maybe Nikon wins by a bit for cost for features. Their Z 1.8 glass is pro level, and I have access to all my old Nikon f lenses. But for doing photo and video coverage I prefer Sony for the only reason that they allow video recording to 2 card slots
In China，Z6III is on sale. Everyone think it is overpriced. Oringal price is 18999, now 16500 which is about 2200 USD
I can’t charge my z6iii by usbc in the camera 😢. Love the viewfinder though.
Thanks for another informative and enjoyable video. Do you think that it might be time for camera makers to stop having microphone and headphone jacks and switch to Bluetooth and/or USB-C for audio purposes? (A body like a Z6III could certainly support 2 or 3 USB-C ports.)
So when you shoot video with no ND, do you just set the shutter to whatever? Or is there kind of an optimum higher shutter speed when you're not doubling the frame rate?
I just set it to whatever most of the time. Unless I’m moving the camera then I try and keep it proper 180
@@TaylorJacksonPhoto Thanks man!
Hey there, i just traded my Zf in for the Z6iii for the better ergonomics. But… though i am not a big video guy, i just need an all a rounder camera for wildlife (flying, running, and stills) and for landscape. I am not a professional, but i like good quality images so i can print and post on social media. Will this Z6iii (even though so many people say DR is bad) would it be good for a wildlife, nature, landscape camera? I don’t have a big budget, just want a camera that is great for what i do.
Most stacked sensors or in this case partially stacked sensors have slightly worse DR than non stacked. However, it looks like even thought the DR isn’t top of class it seems as if it way more than good enough for every style of photography especially if you do a bit of fast moving or portrait photography where animal/people tracking is needed. From what I’ve seen on charts it has just barely worse DR than the Z8 and Z9 but those are also top of class 45mp cameras. You could check Nigel Danson’s video on the z6iii to see some landscape photography examples as well.
What do you use for BTS when shooting your weddings?
@TaylorJacksonPhoto Seeing as you shoot some video in between the stills, how does your A7R V compare to the Z6 III for you?
Nikon being a small player.. Should rather be on top of everything.. Missing small things like dual recording? Charger? On top of the sensor and ibis issues on this model? Not enough for a long wait guys. 😢
What are the sensor and ibis issues?
Could you be interested come to Australia?Do you workshop here for weddings
Z6 iii, Will it be Ok with NIKON 85mm 1.4G
Nope, Z6iii does NOT come with a charger! 😞
I have already shot several wedding videos with this camera. And I can say that Nikon has a long way to go to become a good camera for video shooting ((, There is no open gate, no choice of video bitrate, due to the fact that the USB and HDMI ports are located close to the screen, it becomes impossible to rotate when connecting the cables, the battery works very well and there is no overheating of the camera in 4k/60, Autofocus at the level of Sony cameras, I also want to note the good recording sound at the level stabilization of Sony cameras (not good and not bad). the dynamic range is good
great review bro,, im event photographer who really need fast AF and good skin tone, the answer is nikon or canon, sony is great at AF but their skin tone sooc not really good,
@taylorjacksonphoto what made you trade your ZF?
is this better than the sony a7c ii?
I can day for a7cii but my cousin's a7rii is very slow. Turning it on and also af feels slow. I also heard the camera overheat when you record video.
They are not coming with a charger !!! Luckily, I have extra from the other camera!!
Question.....does the Z6iii have backlit buttons?
Nope
Is it just me or is the output color from Nikon too yellow dominant?
You can just not shoot it in shade white balance all the time if you don’t like that look
Doesn't ship with a charger. Check box contents.
Loved the video, I haven't backed up video or photo for more than 5 years now. I've shot Nikon, Sony and Fuji, no one failure. I've found that if I don't cheap out in memory cards and reset them every time I switched the memory cards to a new camera I get no errors. Memory card Technology has improved to the point that I don't even feel like I'm playing YOLO with my job.
Hope and luck are not great strategies. I've had two card failures in the last few years -- both Sony Tough cards in mint condition. One had the star (after the recall), one did not. I was shooting to two cards both times and it saved me. I absolutely love the Z6 III, but this is a dealbreaker for me. It's WILD that they haven't fixed this.
@@jordancheek5157 I understand that you are speaking from your experience, I don't believe in luck I believe in preparation, when it comes to these things that's why I don't use Sony tough cards because they have a bad record when it comes to errors, I walked away from both Sony and SanDisk(also very flimsy cards) and moved to ProGrade a few years ago, ProGrade don't break a sweat, I am shooting prores and prores Raw on a Angelbird CFexpress card also on the Nikon Z6III so far so good.
@@jordancheek5157 Yeah I get that you had a bad experience but I don't really believe in luck, I believe in preparation, that's why I walked away from Sony and SanDisk SD cards, both have a bad track record when it comes to errors, I've been using ProGrade for SD for years now and AngelBird for the CFexpress type B. I've been using the Nikon Z6III since release day, the camera is the real deal. I will reiterate that the biggest error culprit is moving cards between cameras without resetting them. I wish you success on your endeavors.
@@jordancheek5157was that CF express B? I think the Sony recall was SD and CFE-A and those absolutely don’t have the robustness of CFE-B cards. I understand why people want to do it for peace of mind but CFE-B data suggests it’s not something to worry about.
@@livejames9374 Fair … they were indeed both SD cards, one M and one G series if I remember correctly. I agree with that, though I’d still rather not chance it personally :-)
0:01 Shooting a 4k24fps video at 1/640sec = 13.5° shutter angle ?
Yah it’s my favourite shutter angle.
@@TaylorJacksonPhoto 😂😂
Why you didn't use a ND filter ?
@paul_55672 because I notice very little difference using one. I just use a plugin if the high frame rate is noticeable. But it’s only really noticeable if you’re moving the camera or the subject is moving quickly
They do NOT come with a charger, really dumb.
Very poor shadow recovery, hard pass for me. Going to wait and see what Sony or Canon bring next. Sad to see the new ZV-E10 ii have better dynamic range 😅.
I uploaded a video about the shadow recovery. You have to be very bad to make it an issue
Taylor, did you ever do the hybrid review of this camera, I've looked down your video list, but can't see it.
I haven’t had a hybrid wedding with it yet. It’s good and fast, just video only goes to a single card slot which I know is a deal breaker for a lot of people
Nikon zf is nice camera but the ergonomic is not good for wedding and event photographer ,, z6iii is the answer
GOD am I glad I didn't wait and went back to Canon!!!
Why?
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Z6iii giveaway hit like
First lol.