I completely agree. The only thing I've really noticed are the alloy shocks and more durable and tend to leak less. They really shine with heavier shock oil. I put 60 weight in all of mine. It feels like a 6s arrma now. I think arrma made the shock piston holes too large
@DoRC I definitely recommend it. It completely transformed mine. Anything less than 60 weight felt too bouncy. Maybe m2c will develop some shock pistons eventually. They're very easy to bleed to. They're bladderless and have a relief cut into the threads for easy air bleeding.
The solid composit links are made to break. BTW that is the point. I used the Vorteks Boost links on my 3s Vorteks and snapped the right rear on first run. I get is cost wise, really cheap and quite frankly an easy fix. Alloy links are durable and in this case you'll more then likely never snap one on that truck. That being said I did snap an alloy turnbuckle just reciently on my Vorteks. That brand I got was very cheap $10. so you get what you pay for. I bet big bore shock would make a difference. springs as well.
That hasn't really been my experience. In my experience the solid plastic links flex so they're actually less likely to break or bend and stay bent than the adjustable ones.
@@RC4us Yeah the only part that they haven't sent me yet is the part I'm looking forward to the most. Once I get the steel differentials in I'll have a full steel drivetrain and I'll feel more comfortable running bigger tires.
Not much of a durability test of the shocks if you land perfectly every time :-) I was intentionally doing stupid things to see if I would break anything.
@CLOSER1313YO Yeah it's actually a pretty common comment that I get. Whenever I'm testing something out I'm usually durability testing it and it's just not really a valid durability test if you're landing perfectly every time. There's also a little bit of the fact that I'm recording while driving and standing 45° offset from the ramp so it's kind of challenging :-) Glad you enjoy!
Thank you for charing, I just got my grom, I did i keept the stock shocks, but i did change the oil fluid on them i actually put some diff oil 4000cst. seems like 50wt on a teton. so yes i like it, the only thing is that the chocos on the front are to tight, I don't know how to chagne that, i see some people cut the spring. or something like that. I need to do more research.
I wouldn't cut the spring. A shorter spring will actually be stiffer than it's longer counterpart because there is less material there. I haven't really noticed that the front springs are too stiff I noticed that the rear springs aren't really stiff enough though.
I put different shocks on mine and took em off and put the stocks back on. They were too much. But with all the added weight now from the bigger motor heavier battery. I bet those small shocks with better fluid would be better with all the added weight.
I cut 1.5 round off the front shocks and filled them with 40 wt shock oil, made the front much less bouncy with the stock shocks. On the rear ones i ended up using 80wt oil to get rid of the bouncyness, with this combo of mods and oils my Granite Grom is sooooo much better
Nice job as always. I picked up the same parts. The adjustable links are nice but the shocks were not as good as the stock ones. I'm really not sure what's wrong but I checked them all and they were full. I eventually drained them out and put in some 70 weight and they still feel about the same.
@@DoRC It's interesting that you only did the rear. That's where I think thicker weight fluid is needed on mine. The front end seems fine on 70 weight.
@@DoRC It's interesting that you only did the rear. That's where I think thicker weight fluid is needed on mine. The front end seems fine on 70 weight.
Yeah it definitely needs some tuning. I just wanted to see how it felt with the out of the box fluid since that's how a lot of people are going to run it. It's acceptable.
It's a pretty tough truck and yes it does need thicker oil especially in the rear. I like to review things as they come because That's how a lot of people will run it. There are a lot of RUclipsrs out there that make tweaks and adjustments to the setup in the background and Can lead to people having different experiences from what they see on videos. I try to avoid that as much as possible.
I agree with you man just the jump down off the curb onto the road at the house makes a good spark show almost have ground the bolts down completely on the rear.
@jakecivis7402 For sure. Shock oil is always a balancing act between off-road handling and jump handling. The shock oil is Pretty nicely tuned to handle the bumps off-road and going thicker will likely decrease that ability but it just depends on what kind of bashing you're doing.
What’s up rouge long time no see , I was going to pick one these up and they two apart with diff issues so I spent 200 on proline wheels and some parts instead , I probably still grab one tomorrow because I like Arrmas and granite imo one of the best rcs . Now FMS dropped a cool mini MT and how can you not love the mini LMT . Too many rcs not enough room or money 😂😂😂 if I only learned to sell them like a lot of us do . Any one have a lot of experience with the regular LMT , I keep skipping gears in the tranny without messing breaking teeth , first I shimmed , than new input gear now going change the ring ( you should do them together) I think the tranny itself is flexing when it warms up , not sure , I should’ve just bought complete assembly, also a favorite “ rcs come along way they pumping out some cool stuff
I'm a sucker for aluminum shocks. The suspension is one of the most significant subsystems that makes a hobby grade RC car perform, and for me a nice set of aluminum shocks brings that into focus. Now if i were getting the Grom for my kid I wouldn't buy these unless the plastic ones were breaking, but if it were for me I would indulge myself with the purchase!
I don't put upgrades on my trucks unless they improve the performance. I pass on cosmetic upgrades. Thanks for the tip. What I want for the truck is the upgraded diffs and axles that are on backorder for months according to horizon hobby.
@@Schmidt3850 Not sure what the delay is. Obviously they have at least some of most of these parts but I really don't know who's getting them or why they're putting them out the way they are.
Have you don’t a video on the 3s aluminum shocks? If not can you just want to try them for mine got a set of front 4s shocks on the rear of my Typhon I love the stiffness of them for jumps but they just sag to much if I don’t have them adjusted almost half the way down want to say they have 45wgt in them
@@DoRC yeah same I like them just not the sag if they aren’t stiffer then normal I did put some hot racings on my cousins Typhon on the front and they seem to be really good nice rebound look amazing and handle the bashing
It's definitely good out of the box. I'm looking forward to when I can get the differentials upgraded simply because I want to run larger tires and I'm not super confident about the output cups on the current diffs surviving that.
Hey a lot of people are stripping the diffs even the metal one if I’m not mistaken. I don’t see how I see you beat it pretty good with brushless , so imagine they’re putting some serious drive time in and if they’re like 10 bucks after hours skateparks that’s understandable. I was just surprised to hear and my lhs not big on Arrmas even though they sell em
Yeah everybody has their opinions on stuff like vehicle brands. The full metal differentials aren't out yet so everybody that's breaking them or breaking the plastic ones. I would say that the differential output cups are definitely the weak point on them. That being said I've only ever broken one beating on it hard on 3S. I think with just general bashing with stock tires on 2S they're just fine.
@@DoRCmy sons rear diff output cups broke on 2S the second drive. They don’t carry these individually so I had to get a new rear diff. My first experience with Arrma after owning many Traxxas, Element, and Vanquish rigs. Won’t be buying another because Horizon customer service sucks compared to everyone else.
@andrewhead4365 Yeah at this time they only saw the rear differential as a whole piece. Fortunately it's pretty inexpensive. I do wish they had made that part a little stronger though because it does seem to be a pretty big weak point.
Not unless something really catches my fancy like a crawler basher or something like that. There are literally zero rocks around where I live so crawling really isn't my thing.
Yes the aluminum shocks are certainly going to be more durable. I'm just not sure that for most people the plastic shocks need more durability. I've beaten on mine pretty hard with the plastic shocks and haven't had a single issue.
I completely agree. I'm actually just waiting for the all steel differentials to arrive before running bigger tires. I'm concerned that the stock plastic ones aren't going to survive that sort of abuse.
I broke front shock with in 10 minutes ...not impressed with durability at all ...plus in UK no spares available...and the upgrade shocks are nearly £50 ..way to expensive, with better aftermarket shocks for less out there ! Plus my MJX HYPER GO has been bashed, smashed and abused time and time again on the skate park and only broke the rear body posts...so not very impressed with my GROM 😞
That's a bummer but for the most part these little trucks have proven to be pretty darn durable. People will have breakages but overall they're good. The shocks are very expensive though.
@DoRC they look awesome 👌 but I'll pass. I put 40wt in mine. Really helps with big jumps . Definitely need the upgraded diffs. Broke a front diff cup at the skatepark
@seanconnolly2179 Yeah not having as much mass definitely helps. It's also helpful that it is kind of challenging to make this thing really go . It's also helpful that it is kind of challenging to make this thing . It's also helpful that it is kind of challenging to really launch this thing in the air under most circumstances.
I completely agree. The only thing I've really noticed are the alloy shocks and more durable and tend to leak less. They really shine with heavier shock oil. I put 60 weight in all of mine. It feels like a 6s arrma now. I think arrma made the shock piston holes too large
I think I'm going to be going up in the shock weight too.
@DoRC I definitely recommend it. It completely transformed mine. Anything less than 60 weight felt too bouncy. Maybe m2c will develop some shock pistons eventually. They're very easy to bleed to. They're bladderless and have a relief cut into the threads for easy air bleeding.
It does look like it could use heavier shock oil in those aluminum shocks.
@@barbedwirerat661 agreed. Definitely something I'll be doing in the future.
It's a cool car , my Granite is tough, I still have the stock shocks on it after 2 years of bashing
Yeah the stock 3S shock sold up pretty well.
The solid composit links are made to break. BTW that is the point. I used the Vorteks Boost links on my 3s Vorteks and snapped the right rear on first run. I get is cost wise, really cheap and quite frankly an easy fix. Alloy links are durable and in this case you'll more then likely never snap one on that truck. That being said I did snap an alloy turnbuckle just reciently on my Vorteks. That brand I got was very cheap $10. so you get what you pay for. I bet big bore shock would make a difference. springs as well.
That hasn't really been my experience. In my experience the solid plastic links flex so they're actually less likely to break or bend and stay bent than the adjustable ones.
Thats why i watch your videos kenny...honest opinion goes a long way !! True to the hobby and tell it like it is 💯
Thanks man Glad you enjoy!
man they look good i have actually broken a front an rear cap off mine so hopefully these will help with them HUGE sends out of the skatepark lol
Yeah these will definitely be stronger than stock. They are very beefy for what they are.
@@DoRC cant wait to check them out
@@RC4us Yeah the only part that they haven't sent me yet is the part I'm looking forward to the most. Once I get the steel differentials in I'll have a full steel drivetrain and I'll feel more comfortable running bigger tires.
@@DoRC i love these bezgar 1/16th tires im running they been working great like i said my only issue so far is the shock cap actually pulling off....
Wow bro… I don’t think I saw a four tire landing the whole time😳… lol
Not much of a durability test of the shocks if you land perfectly every time :-) I was intentionally doing stupid things to see if I would break anything.
@@DoRC just thought I’d mess with you a bit… I dig your channel and your videos are very well made🤙
@CLOSER1313YO Yeah it's actually a pretty common comment that I get. Whenever I'm testing something out I'm usually durability testing it and it's just not really a valid durability test if you're landing perfectly every time.
There's also a little bit of the fact that I'm recording while driving and standing 45° offset from the ramp so it's kind of challenging :-) Glad you enjoy!
Thank you for charing, I just got my grom, I did i keept the stock shocks, but i did change the oil fluid on them i actually put some diff oil 4000cst. seems like 50wt on a teton. so yes i like it, the only thing is that the chocos on the front are to tight, I don't know how to chagne that, i see some people cut the spring. or something like that. I need to do more research.
I wouldn't cut the spring. A shorter spring will actually be stiffer than it's longer counterpart because there is less material there. I haven't really noticed that the front springs are too stiff I noticed that the rear springs aren't really stiff enough though.
I put different shocks on mine and took em off and put the stocks back on. They were too much. But with all the added weight now from the bigger motor heavier battery. I bet those small shocks with better fluid would be better with all the added weight.
Which shocks did you go with?
I cut 1.5 round off the front shocks and filled them with 40 wt shock oil, made the front much less bouncy with the stock shocks. On the rear ones i ended up using 80wt oil to get rid of the bouncyness, with this combo of mods and oils my Granite Grom is sooooo much better
Yeah running thicker rear shock fluid definitely helps!
Nice job as always. I picked up the same parts. The adjustable links are nice but the shocks were not as good as the stock ones. I'm really not sure what's wrong but I checked them all and they were full. I eventually drained them out and put in some 70 weight and they still feel about the same.
The shock oil is way too thin in them especially in the back. I think I ended up with 90 weight in the rear of mine
@@DoRC It's interesting that you only did the rear. That's where I think thicker weight fluid is needed on mine. The front end seems fine on 70 weight.
@@DoRC It's interesting that you only did the rear. That's where I think thicker weight fluid is needed on mine. The front end seems fine on 70 weight.
@@RCRoads oh I did both I just had to go way thicker in the rear than in the front.
No 3S Blx aluminum shocks but they made some for the Grom
Yeah that is odd
Put some 80-90wt oil in the rear shocks and the rear will feel and work like the front. 👍👍
Yeah it definitely needs some tuning. I just wanted to see how it felt with the out of the box fluid since that's how a lot of people are going to run it. It's acceptable.
Haven't had any issues with my grom even with the kids driving an bouncing off walls. But definitely need to put a thicker oil in the shocks.
It's a pretty tough truck and yes it does need thicker oil especially in the rear. I like to review things as they come because That's how a lot of people will run it.
There are a lot of RUclipsrs out there that make tweaks and adjustments to the setup in the background and Can lead to people having different experiences from what they see on videos. I try to avoid that as much as possible.
I agree with you man just the jump down off the curb onto the road at the house makes a good spark show almost have ground the bolts down completely on the rear.
@jakecivis7402 For sure. Shock oil is always a balancing act between off-road handling and jump handling. The shock oil is Pretty nicely tuned to handle the bumps off-road and going thicker will likely decrease that ability but it just depends on what kind of bashing you're doing.
i live in an RC Desert called Austin-ish, Texas. i can't even buy the damn Grom, here 😣
That sucks. I know they're out of stock a lot of places.
Want me to ship you one? 140 plus shipping.
@@Logan_gamble why yes, yes i do!
@@Logan_gamble nice!
What’s up rouge long time no see , I was going to pick one these up and they two apart with diff issues so I spent 200 on proline wheels and some parts instead , I probably still grab one tomorrow because I like Arrmas and granite imo one of the best rcs . Now FMS dropped a cool mini MT and how can you not love the mini LMT . Too many rcs not enough room or money 😂😂😂 if I only learned to sell them like a lot of us do . Any one have a lot of experience with the regular LMT , I keep skipping gears in the tranny without messing breaking teeth , first I shimmed , than new input gear now going change the ring ( you should do them together) I think the tranny itself is flexing when it warms up , not sure , I should’ve just bought complete assembly, also a favorite “ rcs come along way they pumping out some cool stuff
Recently found your channel. Subbed and enjoying your content. Got myself a Grom the other day.
Awesome glad you enjoy. How do you like the Grom?
@@DoRC Only unboxed it so far. But I like what I see.
@rcfools I think you'll be pretty happy with it. It's a fun little car.
I'm a sucker for aluminum shocks. The suspension is one of the most significant subsystems that makes a hobby grade RC car perform, and for me a nice set of aluminum shocks brings that into focus. Now if i were getting the Grom for my kid I wouldn't buy these unless the plastic ones were breaking, but if it were for me I would indulge myself with the purchase!
Yeah I'm kind of a sucker for pretty much any upgrades. These shocks certainly do the trick of looking good!
I don't put upgrades on my trucks unless they improve the performance. I pass on cosmetic upgrades. Thanks for the tip. What I want for the truck is the upgraded diffs and axles that are on backorder for months according to horizon hobby.
Agreed. I think the differentials and the axles are by far the best upgrades for this. That is assuming the differentials are good.
@@DoRC yeah if I can get them before I go down for the dirt nap.
@@Schmidt3850 Not sure what the delay is. Obviously they have at least some of most of these parts but I really don't know who's getting them or why they're putting them out the way they are.
Horizon site says April 2024. Really? That's just a joke.
@@Schmidt3850 Yeah I saw that. Weird.
Love the videos, what wt oil are in those?
I think I ended up putting 90 weight in them. The stuff that comes in them from the factory is too thin especially in the rear
Have you don’t a video on the 3s aluminum shocks? If not can you just want to try them for mine got a set of front 4s shocks on the rear of my Typhon I love the stiffness of them for jumps but they just sag to much if I don’t have them adjusted almost half the way down want to say they have 45wgt in them
I don't. The only upgraded shocks I've done on the three s vehicles are the proline ones and I was really happy with those. They are expensive though.
@@DoRC yeah same I like them just not the sag if they aren’t stiffer then normal I did put some hot racings on my cousins Typhon on the front and they seem to be really good nice rebound look amazing and handle the bashing
I love my little Grom as is ❤
It's definitely good out of the box. I'm looking forward to when I can get the differentials upgraded simply because I want to run larger tires and I'm not super confident about the output cups on the current diffs surviving that.
Hey a lot of people are stripping the diffs even the metal one if I’m not mistaken. I don’t see how I see you beat it pretty good with brushless , so imagine they’re putting some serious drive time in and if they’re like 10 bucks after hours skateparks that’s understandable. I was just surprised to hear and my lhs not big on Arrmas even though they sell em
Yeah everybody has their opinions on stuff like vehicle brands. The full metal differentials aren't out yet so everybody that's breaking them or breaking the plastic ones. I would say that the differential output cups are definitely the weak point on them. That being said I've only ever broken one beating on it hard on 3S. I think with just general bashing with stock tires on 2S they're just fine.
@@DoRCmy sons rear diff output cups broke on 2S the second drive. They don’t carry these individually so I had to get a new rear diff. My first experience with Arrma after owning many Traxxas, Element, and Vanquish rigs. Won’t be buying another because Horizon customer service sucks compared to everyone else.
@andrewhead4365 Yeah at this time they only saw the rear differential as a whole piece. Fortunately it's pretty inexpensive.
I do wish they had made that part a little stronger though because it does seem to be a pretty big weak point.
Any rc crawlers in 1/10 you plan to test?
Not unless something really catches my fancy like a crawler basher or something like that. There are literally zero rocks around where I live so crawling really isn't my thing.
Do you know is ARRMA aluminum shocks for arrma gorgon thanks
I don't know if they make an upgrade for the Gorgon or not sorry.
@@DoRC oh ok thanks
But they would add durability right?
Yes the aluminum shocks are certainly going to be more durable. I'm just not sure that for most people the plastic shocks need more durability. I've beaten on mine pretty hard with the plastic shocks and haven't had a single issue.
My plastic stock shocks are leaking like crazy out of the box on my mojave grom.
Sounds like a manufacturing defect. Haven't had any of my plastic shocks leak. Contact Horizon they'll take care of you
Needs more rear damping.
Agreed. Definitely needs a bit of shock tuning.
Mine didn't have shock oil
That's interesting. Every set I've gotten came with oil in it. I wonder if they stopped or if yours was just a mistake.
@DoRC ya idk they look great tho still need to get a tool to open them because it's super tight and I can't twist it off
Need slightly larger, or heavier tires for more air control. Like seriously guys.
I completely agree. I'm actually just waiting for the all steel differentials to arrive before running bigger tires. I'm concerned that the stock plastic ones aren't going to survive that sort of abuse.
I broke front shock with in 10 minutes ...not impressed with durability at all ...plus in UK no spares available...and the upgrade shocks are nearly £50 ..way to expensive, with better aftermarket shocks for less out there !
Plus my MJX HYPER GO has been bashed, smashed and abused time and time again on the skate park and only broke the rear body posts...so not very impressed with my GROM 😞
That's a bummer but for the most part these little trucks have proven to be pretty darn durable. People will have breakages but overall they're good.
The shocks are very expensive though.
I wish i can buy this rc..
Definitely a fun truck!
Broke mine today
Which part specifically?
@@DoRC The A Arm where it mounts to the shock.
The shocks look like they perform the same
Yeah unfortunately I think they're functionally identical.
@DoRC they look awesome 👌 but I'll pass. I put 40wt in mine. Really helps with big jumps . Definitely need the upgraded diffs. Broke a front diff cup at the skatepark
@@RevelationRC Yeah like I said in the video unless you really like the way they look or just really don't like money I wouldn't recommend upgrading.
@@DoRC thanks for the video 👍now I will save $40
Wrong silicone oil viscosity.. u need thicker fluids
Agreed. The shocks come prefilled so I wanted to review them as they ship. The rear especially needs thicker fluid.
No not yet.
That's good to hear. I haven't heard of too many people who have broken things on these yet.
Knock on wood I haven’t broken one thing on mine I think it’s because it’s so little and lite weight.
@seanconnolly2179 Yeah not having as much mass definitely helps. It's also helpful that it is kind of challenging to make this thing really go . It's also helpful that it is kind of challenging to make this thing . It's also helpful that it is kind of challenging to really launch this thing in the air under most circumstances.
Seems like a waste of $$$$
Unless you like the look it pretty much is. The stock shocks work just fine