Bok fan living in Auckland here. I am starting to enjoy this as my only level headed, fair minded respectful to other international teams Kiwi rugby show. That other one with JK is a bit of a joke really, Mils and Kirstie are the only ones with any rugby knowledge. I am loving Taylor (Beast), Lorax and Tamati. Please keep up the balanced and truthful rugby reporting guys. All countries and their rugby teams are different in their approach - this is what makes it a great game and why I love it when ABs, England, Boks, Fiji and Ireland play each other. They are all unique. Love your work.
One of the best ARP episodes ever. Loved the informal feel of the show, just felt like watching a conversation between 3 really rugby smart people while remaining balanced and analytical. Awesome conversation.
Rusty? Bulk of those guys also play together at Leinster. The All blacks played a measured game and adapted early. They were composed, let the play do the talking.💯 impressive. No plastic energy.
This Irish team have been together for 3 years and a number of abs are on their first tour! No excuses for the emerald men they just didn’t adapt to the nz defence
@ true mate but when Eng came to nz in June a nz loss wouldn’t be tolerable! No matter the limited time together! Ireland have that advantage of being together for a good time now!
Big Rieko Ioane fan and respect. Perfect medicine for the Irish and for standing up to Sexton😊. Sexton has been dishing trash talk for years. Even in that Leinster quarter final against the Bulls. Ireland still a worldclass team though. From SA
I guess the fans disrespected him, too, did they? Rieko has a history of yap, too, and the last time I checked, he has zero World Cups, too. In fact, his cabinet is empty compared to Sexton. Looks like he is still banging on loudly on his insta. Does he not realise Sexton wasn't even playing out there.
I think if the ABs manage to knock over France, most Kiwis would be relatively content with just three losses this season. Kind of gutted the season is coming to an end just as the ABs are hitting their stride, but here's hoping they can reclaim the number one title next year.
I picked we'd lose 3 this year ... however I picked we'd win one of the Bok games and we'd win both of the Puma games, so I'm hoping we win all these November games to keep the 3 losses prediction lol
It would be an amazing northern tour if they can beat France, although England handed them the win, Ireland had an off day, France can run hot and cold, so you never know what team will turn up.
@geoffnelson6756 A big win over japan is truly good .France & All Blacks matches against each other is always great ,wild, mighty shocking to watch I can't wait France beat All Blacks before Springboks in the rwc to and actually scored rugby trys Springboks didn't in the final but yes they won beating a 14 squad team
AB had that Canterbury Crusaders thing going on. Small additions of pressure accumulating over time in every part of the game that eventually breaks the opposition. Haaaated watching it as a canes fan. They played Ireland into a rut.
At the RWC quarter final in Paris last year, the Irish fans were super confident (borderline cocky). Aa a seasoned springbok fan, I tried to warn the Irish fans…you don’t simply just beat the ABs because your team is in form and you think ABs are not. Your team ALWAYS needs to be at 100%, with all cilinders firing, all players contributing, with all the emotions behind you. The ABs have broken our hearts too many times at the death for me to EVER be comfortable going into a Boks vs. ABs game. The Irish tend to forget that (only true rivals of the ABs know this;-)
many irish fans thought ireland were better than the bok because they had beaten them in south Africa - pride comes before a fall and Ireland are beginning to experience that on a regular basis - new kid on the block thinks he's better than the experienced ones that have been at the top for years and think they understand the pressure and are better at it than any other team
Ireland excuse of being rusty..can't accept.They played South Africa this year after they had played 6 Nations and South Africa had only played 1 game since World Cup in 2023 ( 9 months l... and they celebrated their victory and would never had accepted the fact Springboks never played in 9 months
💯 sad reality when your world no1 there no excuses rain hail or shine anywhere anytime you show up especially when majority of them club rugby for the same team reality they should’ve beaten the all blacks the still in the rebuilding stage but well done boys the road to World Cup loking good
The Pressure and intensity the All Blacks brought caused the Irish to make errors and forced them to infringe. Just as England defensive pressure did to NZ the week before. Circa 10 players unavailable for NZ and the scoreboard flattered the irish-the future is bright.
A big Springbok fan here. To the build of the last weekend, I said only two Northern Hemisphere teams were going to win. I thought it would be England and France. I am so glad I got the England one wrong because I think Australia is good for the rugby Championship. And no, NZ and Ireland are not a real rivalry; NZ has beaten Ireland 32 times, and Ireland won 5. How is that a rivalry? This rivalry is fun because we all know who the better team is... last week England walked up to the line while the AB's did the Haka and this week Ireland did it as well and both instances the AB's won....so moral of the story when the ABs do the Haka just stand there enjoy and safe your energy for the game like the Springboks do......
Great episode as usual! As a South African I’ve not paid much attention to the world rankings until certain Irish pundits made such a big fuss about it. Now I’m just glad we’ve taken that away from them. Well done ABs!
Cos we're used to the analysis without the extra theatrics from this podcast. Everyone gets their time to talk and fully put their points across even in disagreement. This guest is more a KOKO podcast kinda guest not this one. He's just too excited and talks over people a bit too much
I agee, it was a bit hard to follow, and some good points that were being made was cut short or interrupted by the new guy. Don’t get me wrong, it was entertaining, but I prefer the usual format
The ABs were outstanding because they had BMT. Reiko leading the haka was a stroke of genius. I really like the comment 'a fine line between victory and defeat....the equator'😂😂 The Irish should've learned from this a long time ago
Great episode. Really enjoyed having Joey on. I'm not always a fan of his "in the crowd/pub work" but he added plenty in the analysis of the games last weekend and those coming. Just a note on that. You guys are far and away the best analysis show going. Way and I mean way better than the Breakdown... not sure why some great All Blacks there simply can't communicate and provide decent analysis. That was until they got Beaver on. He was a revelation in terms of his insights and analysis. Do you think you could get him as a guest?
DMac has to be commended for a controlled and pragmatic display at 10. It's not easy to be a maverick every weekend. Sometimes, you have to take the points available. That being said, the Scots kicking against us was a poor decision. Surely Russels skills had to be leveraged better.
Good points as Mckenzie is expected to be a maverick all the time. He gets into any national team which says alot despite all the criticism. Finn Russell is put on this pedestal as a game changer but hardly see it against the best teams. Overrated in my opinion
We were frustrating and frustrated yes rusty but no excuse as the ABs won that game no questions asked. Went out and executed the plan perfectly. Well done guys
From an Ireland fan, there are some long term depth concerns particularly at prop, we feel last week was a glitch and there will be a positive reaction this weekend, also felt the very experienced bench last week was there to 'close' the game out, disappointed there wasn't a more dynamic bech for impact.
For the first time in years I'm excited about the All Blacks. They look like they're building into something special with still plenty of room to grow.
@@icefarrow7959they were only able to assemble their full strength team like a few days before the game. And some of their European players haven’t even played under Byrne yet. The game plan would have to have been bare bones and simplified as much as possible. Makes sense for why they looked clunky. But even still to come together and beat Wales in Cardiff is definitely a huge achievement.
Great show guys....great show!! For me, Ireland have been flying way above their station in life for the last couple of seasons. They're noq coming back down to a more realistic level. As far as I'm concerned they're about a 5th or 6th spot in the world rankings team....well done AB's, well played. SH RULES!! 😁
That makes it so exciting. The top 4 teams could all beat each other. SA was able to beat Ireland this year which was good, but losing that 2nd test to a drop goal really hurt us😥 I'm really hoping NZ find a way to put the French to bed. It would be unheard of for a NZ team to lose 4 in a row to SA and 3 in a row to France
The ABs are transitioning nicely with all the changes since the WC final and will be much better next season. They should have closed out the Ellis Park test and maybe even Cape Town but Boks are much more a unit than them at the moment. Aussies though looked good attacking wise. RC will be exciting next season
Koko show summed it up from Biv. He said centre is the best spot because he won't have to worry about kicking placements and positions in the back field reading opposition attacks which is harder these days
Ireland fan and don’t buy the rusty argument. We’ve been in camp for a while and the provinces have been going for a 6 game block. We just didn’t seem too bothered. Beyond the yellow card period, there was no urgency to our play. Too many older players getting picked on ’credit in the bank’. Our bench had no impact - we were actually winning at 60 mins when our subs came on. Hopefully we freshen things up in the other games but fear Farrell will double down on selection
Discussions about Ireland being rusty or not is a bit like a dog chasing it’s own tail. It also has to do with the different season structures of the NH & SH countries. Most of the Ireland team play together (for Leinster/Munster) in the URC etc so have combinations already, had played many times together in previous tests, had been together in camp for a few weeks including warm weather training in Portugal & had played together in the Six Nations & the July games. The NH Countries play their tests in regular ‘blocks’ as in it is generally the 5 games in the Six Nations, 2 games in the July Series & 3-4 games in the Autumn Internationals & then there may be the odd friendly/warm-up game thrown in. So Ireland gets breaks/rests between their various blocks of games but at least it is regular games. The ABs on the other hand pretty much play all of their tests in 1 chunk being 2 games in the July series, 6 games in the Rugby Championship, 4-5 games in the Autumn Internationals with this year also playing Fiji in the US & Japan on the way over to Europe. And that is when the discussions begin. Are the NH teams fresher or are the ABs getting tired towards the end of their season? Or are the SH teams more cohesive & the NH teams rusty? Did Ireland have the benefit of good preparation at their own base whereas the ABs were disadvantaged by only having a 6 day turn around including travel & moving hotels etc? When Ireland beat the ABs in Chicago in 2016, were Ireland rusty then or were the Irish fired up & the ABs treated it more as a ‘stopover’ game & also being forced to play Kaino in the 2nd row because of a Locking crisis? If/when World Rugby gets a Global Calendar arranged, I wonder if there will still be the argument about the climate/weather where the games are being played in is an issue, who the officials are etc. Time for another few drinks & a chat around the BBQ/Braai me thinks. The discussions could go on for eternity…
“Ireland didn’t have that rhythm that we are so used to seeing.” First game of the season. We held you to one try! AB’s deservedly won comfortably because you stopped our quick ruck phase play, won the territory game & disrupted our lineouts. Well done lads. Look forward to the next time we’ll get a crack at ya!
Spoke to a few Ireland supporters after the game their realised that if you sit at the top table with the big boys you don’t get to pick and choose your battles every game is big the ABs know that better than anyone !
The south vs north will forever be hotly contested. As a rugby fan, it would be great to see a ‘Champions of the Unions’ mini-tournament - pitting the winners of the Rugby Championship against the winners of the 6-Nations, Pacific Nations Cup, Rugby Championship of the Americas & Asian Rugby Championship. 5-teams each playing 4 games in a designated host country. Now that will have bragging rights…
That's ridiculous. Only the 6N and TRC teams can compete with each other. Massive drop to Pacific Nations, and sheer vertical dive to America and Asia 😂
That's literally the world cup though. If the North wants to prove anything then they have a whole 4 years to do it.. Same 4 years we have over here too...
@@icefarrow7959 I hear you - but this proposal at least offers the ‘second-tier nations’ and unions an opportunity to pit themselves at the very best. It creates greater competition and improves rugby as a world sport.
Apparently joining the ruck from the side is legal now, considering it happened at every ruck against Ireland, right in front of the ref. Nearly every time they targetted the second defender - impossible to do if you are joining thorugh the back gate.
The thing im worried about with the new blocking rule for competing for the ball is that you can manipulate the ref by just running into a player even if there was clear space. Also (and this happened on in the game) you can tackle the player in the air but because the penalty was before the tackle it doesnt count. Well at least thats what i saw happen to Pollard. I hope this was just bad reffing and not the norm.
People expect him to play blinders every week and attack from anywhere etc. The game has changed alot with defensive set ups so he can be limited but which team in the world won't have him playing for them?
Not Bs Damien plays well but hasn't controlled the game at 10.Against Ireland he actually didn't try and run everything and got it right by playing the situation, mixing up , kicking, passing and attacking.
Great show gents.. even though Ireland won 1 test versus the springboks.. they are not the same team without Jonny Sexton.. great performance all blacks.. Springboks are back at number 1
Love how Kiwis are talking about croc rolls being penalised too harshly considering Shannon Frizell's blantantly planned breaking of Bongi Mbonambi's knee. That was the pivotal moment in the WC final. Respect was lost. Ironically Deon Fourie became a legend as a result.
The NH teams love celebrating the small things that aren't of importance and it disturbs their concentration to a point. The AB's and Springboks don't and that shows the level of maturity and substance from both teams. The drama of celebration from the North needs to stay in the north. We down in the South would rather continue on our trajectory and remain calm and mature.
There is no comparison between rugby in NZ and Ireland, Rugby is a way of life in NZ, but more or less a fringe sport in Ireland. NZ have been a major force in rugby for over a century, the belief that carries is a big hurdle for most teams to get over as Ireland found out in 2013, game 'won' with 30 seconds left. One point about Lowe getting the crowd involved, in Ireland the ordinary public cannot buy a ticket, they are distributed through rugby clubs and corporate entities, most fans feel this has a negative effect on the support from the crowd.
IRE vs ARG - supporting ARG, but think IRE win SCO vs POR - SCO ENG vs RSA - RSA to win, but expecting a tight one FRA vs NZL - NZL to win, but expecting a tight one ITA vs GEO - ITA. Supporting GEO because I want the "little guys" to do better WAL vs AUS - AUS easily, unless WAL actually pitch up, then still AUS in a tight one. Supporting AUS
I dont want to go through another world cup cycle wondering who our 10 is every week. Give the players and the team certainty. Let's flush the dunny and move on.
Does the ‘not straight’ lineout law apply in these tests, or was it just in the Rugby Championship? This past weekend’s games showed the benefit of Super Rugby. When they need to, NZ, Oz and Fiji can throw the ball around and score tries quickly. The Northern teams don’t seem to be as natural at doing that. As Jip says “under pressure, you revert back to your most rehearsed skill set”.
Identity crisis up North , everything has to look cool to them until they come up against a team that matches up to em with physical dominant defence then they eventually run out of ideas .
Not so much level but certainly up for the game and determined to back each other up! They wanted the win for sure. If an AB had made that Bundee tackle on Cane would they have been carded for over the shoulder?
Good Lads well said Irish fan here ,we wernt on the field for the full game just think 18 points handed to the AB ,hmmm so they scored 5 from play we scored 10 from play .anyway were here for the next time just like before .
Didn't see it as a clinical performance from DMac. Yes, his kicks at goal were masterclass, but if Ireland had performed as they did in the past, reckon the panel would have been more critical of his game. That said, if he's given the black jersey, I'm backing him always. Special jersey that one, brings out the best.
The 4 man line out and reference to the SA Pundits was hilarious 😂 Less box kicks yes please. Lastly, the French crowd will lift their team unlike the subdued Irish
World Rugby want to grow and expose the game as far and as wide as they can but ironically make it so difficult for content creators and EVEN pods like this pod to show game footage to be seen by the masses which they claim to want to reach...!
As a French, I am really happy that everyone doesn't give a chance to France. I'm actually concerned for this game and it is usually a good sign. We usually perform better when afraid of a losing by a lot.
I have to be honest Ireland do not look any where near as good without Sexton. Frawley and Crawly don't look bery creative. Maybe Prendergrast might be the option going forward. One thing is for certain this NZ team are starting to believe in click again. Shame it the lull didn't last longer. From an Englishman 😂
Good show. Joey is ok but the show is better with Bryn. When Joey was calm and actually looked to give reasoned analysis he was really good, but some of the over the top excessive exuberance was a bit much. That behavior is better suited to the clown show that The Breakdown has become. I much prefer this show because of its calm fact based analysis
Allblacks won yeah, but there attack is so 💩, they don't even look dangerous with the ball and I put that down to our midfield, they just don't have any xfactor at all, I'm talking about Jordie,Reiko and AlB. I'd like to see Higgins get a run and hoping Levi Aamua has an outstanding super rugby year, Narawa has more X factor at centre than Reiko
Argentina have beaten SA, Oz, ABs and the French so far this year... so I'm backing them to beat Ireland in a close one... their goal will be to put back to back performances together and will start with Ireland;)
32:04 it's not about the spectacle🤦🏾. Agree nobody is saying "more box kicks" but also we're saying no more blocking! It's not the NFL, just don't be in front of the player with the ball, simple
clarke 13 ioane left wing love right wing jordan at the back. just a thought ? we need tries finish this next game on top these close ones are nothing to do with the forward platform its the finishing and handling letting us down
@@silemon916 hes good but made of glass dudes always injured, i reckon we need the penetration line breaking and wingers actually scoring in the corner. need to put the boot away, not our dna
@shanecriddle-z5h we need Joesph Manu to come play 12 he's the xfactor we are missing. Maybe even try Proctor at 13 but I have a funny feeling Ennor will be the man how many years did he play with Razor at the crusaders. Stevenson and Reiko on the wings jordan 15
I’ll admit I’m a DMac hater but the glazing for this performance needs to stop. Out of the 6 kicks he made out of 8 attempts only 1 was difficult, which was the 1 that fell off the tee. In his positional play he didn’t do anything that well. He made a few unforced errors such as knock ons and a forward pass. The pass he threw to Sititi in the lead up to the Will Jordan try was at his boot laces. He’s also a liability on defense.
we need players to settle into positions if we play barret until the world cup we will be left with no one, the more game time he has the better he will be, if you can’t see the improvements he’s made this year you’re blind, look at south africa they have multiple players that can slot into position and still play great, and that’s what the allblacks are trying to perfect
Sometimes harder to get out of the All Blacks than in... Definite weak spot in defence against able opponents. I love and respect a lot about him as a player and as a person though.
Bok fan living in Auckland here. I am starting to enjoy this as my only level headed, fair minded respectful to other international teams Kiwi rugby show. That other one with JK is a bit of a joke really, Mils and Kirstie are the only ones with any rugby knowledge. I am loving Taylor (Beast), Lorax and Tamati. Please keep up the balanced and truthful rugby reporting guys. All countries and their rugby teams are different in their approach - this is what makes it a great game and why I love it when ABs, England, Boks, Fiji and Ireland play each other. They are all unique. Love your work.
One of the best ARP episodes ever. Loved the informal feel of the show, just felt like watching a conversation between 3 really rugby smart people while remaining balanced and analytical. Awesome conversation.
Better than listening to JK, Jeff Wilson on the other Rugby pod
Much better than the Breakdown.
@@stephenlennon7369 those two guys were All Blacks and know more about Rugby than you in their pinky fingers.
It was entertaining for sure. Although I don't like the ‘talking over each other’ and interrupting… to many good points gets squandered.
ah it's just cause ye won...congrats
Tuesday afternoons are always the second best time of the week after game day! Keep up the good work lads
Especially better after the Jeff Wilson show on Sunday nights
This is by far my favorite Rugby Podcast.
Amazing after trying to watch the left wing 😮 wow horrible
Rusty? Bulk of those guys also play together at Leinster.
The All blacks played a measured game and adapted early. They were composed, let the play do the talking.💯 impressive. No plastic energy.
This Irish team have been together for 3 years and a number of abs are on their first tour! No excuses for the emerald men they just didn’t adapt to the nz defence
It was their first match together on how long? Yes, they lost fair and square. But the below par performance showed because of that.
The Irish didn't look overly excited during the anthems I think they knew they were up against it
@ true mate but when Eng came to nz in June a nz loss wouldn’t be tolerable! No matter the limited time together! Ireland have that advantage of being together for a good time now!
Big Rieko Ioane fan and respect. Perfect medicine for the Irish and for standing up to Sexton😊. Sexton has been dishing trash talk for years. Even in that Leinster quarter final against the Bulls. Ireland still a worldclass team though. From SA
I guess the fans disrespected him, too, did they?
Rieko has a history of yap, too, and the last time I checked, he has zero World Cups, too. In fact, his cabinet is empty compared to Sexton.
Looks like he is still banging on loudly on his insta. Does he not realise Sexton wasn't even playing out there.
@ Zommmmbbbbiieee
Come back and talk Rieko when you win a trophy 🏆
In your heeeeaad. In your heeeeaad
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In your heeeeaad, in your heeeeaad.
I think if the ABs manage to knock over France, most Kiwis would be relatively content with just three losses this season. Kind of gutted the season is coming to an end just as the ABs are hitting their stride, but here's hoping they can reclaim the number one title next year.
If Pumas can beat France, in France, all blacks will to .yes Pumas beat us by 8 then a week later All Blacks beat them by 30+
I picked we'd lose 3 this year ... however I picked we'd win one of the Bok games and we'd win both of the Puma games, so I'm hoping we win all these November games to keep the 3 losses prediction lol
@@amcmartin the couch potatoes will always find something to cry over
It would be an amazing northern tour if they can beat France, although England handed them the win, Ireland had an off day, France can run hot and cold, so you never know what team will turn up.
@geoffnelson6756 A big win over japan is truly good .France & All Blacks matches against each other is always great ,wild, mighty shocking to watch I can't wait France beat All Blacks before Springboks in the rwc to and actually scored rugby trys Springboks didn't in the final but yes they won beating a 14 squad team
AB had that Canterbury Crusaders thing going on. Small additions of pressure accumulating over time in every part of the game that eventually breaks the opposition. Haaaated watching it as a canes fan.
They played Ireland into a rut.
Where is Caleb Love in this scene? Is he being groomed as a 1st 5?
At the RWC quarter final in Paris last year, the Irish fans were super confident (borderline cocky). Aa a seasoned springbok fan, I tried to warn the Irish fans…you don’t simply just beat the ABs because your team is in form and you think ABs are not. Your team ALWAYS needs to be at 100%, with all cilinders firing, all players contributing, with all the emotions behind you. The ABs have broken our hearts too many times at the death for me to EVER be comfortable going into a Boks vs. ABs game. The Irish tend to forget that (only true rivals of the ABs know this;-)
many irish fans thought ireland were better than the bok because they had beaten them in south Africa - pride comes before a fall and Ireland are beginning to experience that on a regular basis - new kid on the block thinks he's better than the experienced ones that have been at the top for years and think they understand the pressure and are better at it than any other team
Ireland excuse of being rusty..can't accept.They played South Africa this year after they had played 6 Nations and South Africa had only played 1 game since World Cup in 2023 ( 9 months l... and they celebrated their victory and would never had accepted the fact Springboks never played in 9 months
Let's be honest. This was a below par Ireland performance.
@@williemarthinus9619 So what, the All Black's won !!! 😊😊 So happy. From a Springbok supporter 🇿🇦 🇿🇦
💯 sad reality when your world no1 there no excuses rain hail or shine anywhere anytime you show up especially when majority of them club rugby for the same team reality they should’ve beaten the all blacks the still in the rebuilding stage but well done boys the road to World Cup loking good
@@williemarthinus9619below par because the ABs didn’t allow them to play at par.
@williemarthinus9619 that's down to poor preparation, don't forget they are professional athletes .
The Pressure and intensity the All Blacks brought caused the Irish to make errors and forced them to infringe. Just as England defensive pressure did to NZ the week before. Circa 10 players unavailable for NZ and the scoreboard flattered the irish-the future is bright.
A big Springbok fan here. To the build of the last weekend, I said only two Northern Hemisphere teams were going to win. I thought it would be England and France. I am so glad I got the England one wrong because I think Australia is good for the rugby Championship. And no, NZ and Ireland are not a real rivalry; NZ has beaten Ireland 32 times, and Ireland won 5. How is that a rivalry? This rivalry is fun because we all know who the better team is... last week England walked up to the line while the AB's did the Haka and this week Ireland did it as well and both instances the AB's won....so moral of the story when the ABs do the Haka just stand there enjoy and safe your energy for the game like the Springboks do......
Congrats lads, completely outplayed us.
Love the show.
First time watching and I'm glued! Greatr show lads, keep on dishing them out!
Great episode as usual! As a South African I’ve not paid much attention to the world rankings until certain Irish pundits made such a big fuss about it. Now I’m just glad we’ve taken that away from them. Well done ABs!
What’s funny is now the Irish are not number 1 the Irish pundits are saying the rankings are rubbish anyway 🤣
Great episode as usual. Did find there to be quite a bit of talking over each other this time, which made it hard to follow at times.
Cos we're used to the analysis without the extra theatrics from this podcast. Everyone gets their time to talk and fully put their points across even in disagreement. This guest is more a KOKO podcast kinda guest not this one. He's just too excited and talks over people a bit too much
I agee, it was a bit hard to follow, and some good points that were being made was cut short or interrupted by the new guy. Don’t get me wrong, it was entertaining, but I prefer the usual format
The ABs were outstanding because they had BMT. Reiko leading the haka was a stroke of genius. I really like the comment 'a fine line between victory and defeat....the equator'😂😂 The Irish should've learned from this a long time ago
Great episode. Really enjoyed having Joey on. I'm not always a fan of his "in the crowd/pub work" but he added plenty in the analysis of the games last weekend and those coming. Just a note on that. You guys are far and away the best analysis show going. Way and I mean way better than the Breakdown... not sure why some great All Blacks there simply can't communicate and provide decent analysis. That was until they got Beaver on. He was a revelation in terms of his insights and analysis. Do you think you could get him as a guest?
Great show and Joey added another dimension ~ a refreshing levity and sense of humour. It is a game, not life and death.
Mate …… keep that Southern Man on the Pod
Loved this sesh . Keep it going 👍
DMac has to be commended for a controlled and pragmatic display at 10. It's not easy to be a maverick every weekend. Sometimes, you have to take the points available. That being said, the Scots kicking against us was a poor decision. Surely Russels skills had to be leveraged better.
Good points as Mckenzie is expected to be a maverick all the time. He gets into any national team which says alot despite all the criticism. Finn Russell is put on this pedestal as a game changer but hardly see it against the best teams. Overrated in my opinion
Ireland bro.
I would love to have a lekker braai and brandy and talk rugby with these fellas. Thanks for the great rugby insight always from Rsa 🇳🇿 🤝 🇿🇦
We were frustrating and frustrated yes rusty but no excuse as the ABs won that game no questions asked. Went out and executed the plan perfectly. Well done guys
From an Ireland fan, there are some long term depth concerns particularly at prop, we feel last week was a glitch and there will be a positive reaction this weekend, also felt the very experienced bench last week was there to 'close' the game out, disappointed there wasn't a more dynamic bech for impact.
For the first time in years I'm excited about the All Blacks. They look like they're building into something special with still plenty of room to grow.
you should be congratulating our Fiji brothers in stead of saying oh Wales are in a bad place its like you are dissing both teams !!
Tbf Fiji were pretty clunky themselves. Wasn't exactly a great game. Felt Fiji played better against the ABs in San Diego.
@@icefarrow7959they were only able to assemble their full strength team like a few days before the game. And some of their European players haven’t even played under Byrne yet. The game plan would have to have been bare bones and simplified as much as possible. Makes sense for why they looked clunky. But even still to come together and beat Wales in Cardiff is definitely a huge achievement.
Watching Fiji play rugby, I expect big tackles, slippery speedsters, and helter skelter hot potato.😅😅😅😅
Clear objective comment and very informative. Love the humility of New Zeeland and South African people. There are no place for egos
Goldie and JK are awesome Rugby guys. So are you guys. I watch and enjoy both shows and a number of others.
Good win damiens awsome but just looked really deliberate in his play. Cheers to em all.
Great show guys....great show!!
For me, Ireland have been flying way above their station in life for the last couple of seasons. They're noq coming back down to a more realistic level. As far as I'm concerned they're about a 5th or 6th spot in the world rankings team....well done AB's, well played. SH RULES!! 😁
We have Irelands number
Ireland has the Boks number
The Boks have ours 😂
We'll see when the Boks have to play 2 games in NZ after this tour. We'll have their number, bring on Eden Park.
Go the ABs.
That makes it so exciting. The top 4 teams could all beat each other. SA was able to beat Ireland this year which was good, but losing that 2nd test to a drop goal really hurt us😥 I'm really hoping NZ find a way to put the French to bed. It would be unheard of for a NZ team to lose 4 in a row to SA and 3 in a row to France
@@troyocarroll Spingboks will be going on tour to NZ with the "A" team my friend!!😁🤗
@@troyocarroll only one test counts next year , Eden Park! When we crack you there then we want no All Black talking sideways with us again!!🤣🤣
The ABs are transitioning nicely with all the changes since the WC final and will be much better next season. They should have closed out the Ellis Park test and maybe even Cape Town but Boks are much more a unit than them at the moment. Aussies though looked good attacking wise. RC will be exciting next season
Will Jordan and Jodie Barrett was great catching the high ball under pressure
Koko show summed it up from Biv. He said centre is the best spot because he won't have to worry about kicking placements and positions in the back field reading opposition attacks which is harder these days
Great stuff guys, good input and passion from Joey!
2 small little countries, haha Joey, true though, and amazing! from a Scot, another wee country, not so far behind...
Great chat thanks
Ireland fan and don’t buy the rusty argument. We’ve been in camp for a while and the provinces have been going for a 6 game block. We just didn’t seem too bothered. Beyond the yellow card period, there was no urgency to our play.
Too many older players getting picked on ’credit in the bank’. Our bench had no impact - we were actually winning at 60 mins when our subs came on. Hopefully we freshen things up in the other games but fear Farrell will double down on selection
Our bench needs improv too, think it's happening
Joey Wheeler, brilliant ! I love his passion for the game, and his humour, great guest on the show !!!
Love the show!! From south africa.
The Black Beast NZ is waking up and he’s angry 🖤🖤🖤
another favorite podcast ever,great Analysis sport on.not bias❤❤❤❤❤
The Steve Hansen impersonation 😂😂😂
Joe Wheeler is classic!!!😂😂 Gotta have him on more often😂 great banter. Love the channel gents 🇿🇦
Springbok fan here, they need to work on those line outs gee wiz.
Discussions about Ireland being rusty or not is a bit like a dog chasing it’s own tail. It also has to do with the different season structures of the NH & SH countries.
Most of the Ireland team play together (for Leinster/Munster) in the URC etc so have combinations already, had played many times together in previous tests, had been together in camp for a few weeks including warm weather training in Portugal & had played together in the Six Nations & the July games. The NH Countries play their tests in regular ‘blocks’ as in it is generally the 5 games in the Six Nations, 2 games in the July Series & 3-4 games in the Autumn Internationals & then there may be the odd friendly/warm-up game thrown in. So Ireland gets breaks/rests between their various blocks of games but at least it is regular games.
The ABs on the other hand pretty much play all of their tests in 1 chunk being 2 games in the July series, 6 games in the Rugby Championship, 4-5 games in the Autumn Internationals with this year also playing Fiji in the US & Japan on the way over to Europe.
And that is when the discussions begin. Are the NH teams fresher or are the ABs getting tired towards the end of their season? Or are the SH teams more cohesive & the NH teams rusty? Did Ireland have the benefit of good preparation at their own base whereas the ABs were disadvantaged by only having a 6 day turn around including travel & moving hotels etc?
When Ireland beat the ABs in Chicago in 2016, were Ireland rusty then or were the Irish fired up & the ABs treated it more as a ‘stopover’ game & also being forced to play Kaino in the 2nd row because of a Locking crisis?
If/when World Rugby gets a Global Calendar arranged, I wonder if there will still be the argument about the climate/weather where the games are being played in is an issue, who the officials are etc. Time for another few drinks & a chat around the BBQ/Braai me thinks. The discussions could go on for eternity…
“Ireland didn’t have that rhythm that we are so used to seeing.” First game of the season. We held you to one try! AB’s deservedly won comfortably because you stopped our quick ruck phase play, won the territory game & disrupted our lineouts. Well done lads. Look forward to the next time we’ll get a crack at ya!
Wheeler is such a good addition. Bryna needs to watch his back lmao 😂😂😂
Bryna could talk underwater, sometimes talks too fast and a bit fancysplaining?
To be fair to Nic Berry. The new lineout rule is not part of this Autumn Series Tests. Which is definitely a head scratcher
Rocking the zero fade
Spoke to a few Ireland supporters after the game their realised that if you sit at the top table with the big boys you don’t get to pick and choose your battles every game is big the ABs know that better than anyone !
The south vs north will forever be hotly contested.
As a rugby fan, it would be great to see a ‘Champions of the Unions’ mini-tournament - pitting the winners of the Rugby Championship against the winners of the 6-Nations, Pacific Nations Cup, Rugby Championship of the Americas & Asian Rugby Championship.
5-teams each playing 4 games in a designated host country. Now that will have bragging rights…
That's ridiculous. Only the 6N and TRC teams can compete with each other. Massive drop to Pacific Nations, and sheer vertical dive to America and Asia 😂
That's literally the world cup though. If the North wants to prove anything then they have a whole 4 years to do it.. Same 4 years we have over here too...
@@icefarrow7959 I hear you - but this proposal at least offers the ‘second-tier nations’ and unions an opportunity to pit themselves at the very best. It creates greater competition and improves rugby as a world sport.
Apparently joining the ruck from the side is legal now, considering it happened at every ruck against Ireland, right in front of the ref. Nearly every time they targetted the second defender - impossible to do if you are joining thorugh the back gate.
It was a bizarre night in Dublin. The atmosphere seemed non existent. Very unirish like . So happy for the ABs though! Really good win.
The thing im worried about with the new blocking rule for competing for the ball is that you can manipulate the ref by just running into a player even if there was clear space. Also (and this happened on in the game) you can tackle the player in the air but because the penalty was before the tackle it doesnt count. Well at least thats what i saw happen to Pollard. I hope this was just bad reffing and not the norm.
The ref was pretty bad. Scotland went off their feet at the ruck numerous times without consequence
DMac "hasn't been playing well" absolute BS! Typical NZ criticism of Damien, rediculous. He's been great all season, his whole career!!
People expect him to play blinders every week and attack from anywhere etc. The game has changed alot with defensive set ups so he can be limited but which team in the world won't have him playing for them?
@@kevinpillay6103good points😊
When the forwards dominate it opens up the game. The forwards won us the penalties and Dmac kicked like a boss.
Not Bs Damien plays well but hasn't controlled the game at 10.Against Ireland he actually didn't try and run everything and got it right by playing the situation, mixing up , kicking, passing and attacking.
What have you been watching? These last 2 games have been his best. Overated! But it's about time he's improving.
Great show gents.. even though Ireland won 1 test versus the springboks.. they are not the same team without Jonny Sexton.. great performance all blacks..
Springboks are back at number 1
Very true and they also missed POM for the run on team this past game. And the drop off from Furlong was huge.
Still the best rugby show! Thanks from SA
Jippa that skin fade is unreal
Love how Kiwis are talking about croc rolls being penalised too harshly considering Shannon Frizell's blantantly planned breaking of Bongi Mbonambi's knee. That was the pivotal moment in the WC final. Respect was lost. Ironically Deon Fourie became a legend as a result.
No one cares 😂😂
@@rileyfreeman9726 History does. 4 World Cups.
@@seanjohnson5893guess what no one cares 🥴🥴
The NH teams love celebrating the small things that aren't of importance and it disturbs their concentration to a point. The AB's and Springboks don't and that shows the level of maturity and substance from both teams. The drama of celebration from the North needs to stay in the north. We down in the South would rather continue on our trajectory and remain calm and mature.
You stay calm and mature my friend and never look between your legs
There is no comparison between rugby in NZ and Ireland, Rugby is a way of life in NZ, but more or less a fringe sport in Ireland. NZ have been a major force in rugby for over a century, the belief that carries is a big hurdle for most teams to get over as Ireland found out in 2013, game 'won' with 30 seconds left. One point about Lowe getting the crowd involved, in Ireland the ordinary public cannot buy a ticket, they are distributed through rugby clubs and corporate entities, most fans feel this has a negative effect on the support from the crowd.
I thought the Scottish jerseys looked awesome ... love the colour gradient.
IRE vs ARG - supporting ARG, but think IRE win
SCO vs POR - SCO
ENG vs RSA - RSA to win, but expecting a tight one
FRA vs NZL - NZL to win, but expecting a tight one
ITA vs GEO - ITA. Supporting GEO because I want the "little guys" to do better
WAL vs AUS - AUS easily, unless WAL actually pitch up, then still AUS in a tight one. Supporting AUS
I dont want to go through another world cup cycle wondering who our 10 is every week. Give the players and the team certainty. Let's flush the dunny and move on.
Does the ‘not straight’ lineout law apply in these tests, or was it just in the Rugby Championship?
This past weekend’s games showed the benefit of Super Rugby. When they need to, NZ, Oz and Fiji can throw the ball around and score tries quickly. The Northern teams don’t seem to be as natural at doing that. As Jip says “under pressure, you revert back to your most rehearsed skill set”.
Not being trialled in this series apparently.
Identity crisis up North , everything has to look cool to them until they come up against a team that matches up to em with physical dominant defence then they eventually run out of ideas .
Still not anywhere near convinced we should stick with this center pairing
Irish lack of depth exposed especially in front row. Without Futlong there is a huge drop in class
Not so much level but certainly up for the game and determined to back each other up! They wanted the win for sure. If an AB had made that Bundee tackle on Cane would they have been carded for over the shoulder?
Good Lads well said Irish fan here ,we wernt on the field for the full game just think 18 points handed to the AB ,hmmm so they scored 5 from play we scored 10 from play .anyway were here for the next time just like before .
Didn't see it as a clinical performance from DMac. Yes, his kicks at goal were masterclass, but if Ireland had performed as they did in the past, reckon the panel would have been more critical of his game. That said, if he's given the black jersey, I'm backing him always. Special jersey that one, brings out the best.
Aussie backs more mobil than AB's ..an quik of loads..cracking pace out wide
😂😂 that’s a good one
The 4 man line out and reference to the SA Pundits was hilarious 😂 Less box kicks yes please. Lastly, the French crowd will lift their team unlike the subdued Irish
We SAFs have the same rivalry with England. We are always happy when they lose.
World Rugby want to grow and expose the game as far and as wide as they can but ironically make it so difficult for content creators and EVEN pods like this pod to show game footage to be seen by the masses which they claim to want to reach...!
Can we have more Joey Wheeler impersonations of Steve Hansen please! 😂 👏🏻 👏🏻 👍🏻
The red card between Scotland/Springboks was not worth a red.From a Springbok supporter 🤮 *** ABs win the frog legs by 10 points plus!!
As a French, I am really happy that everyone doesn't give a chance to France. I'm actually concerned for this game and it is usually a good sign. We usually perform better when afraid of a losing by a lot.
I have to be honest Ireland do not look any where near as good without Sexton.
Frawley and Crawly don't look bery creative. Maybe Prendergrast might be the option going forward.
One thing is for certain this NZ team are starting to believe in click again. Shame it the lull didn't last longer. From an Englishman 😂
Good show. Joey is ok but the show is better with Bryn.
When Joey was calm and actually looked to give reasoned analysis he was really good, but some of the over the top excessive exuberance was a bit much.
That behavior is better suited to the clown show that The Breakdown has become. I much prefer this show because of its calm fact based analysis
Joey doesn't work on this podcast, he talks over people, I turned it off.
Allblacks won yeah, but there attack is so 💩, they don't even look dangerous with the ball and I put that down to our midfield, they just don't have any xfactor at all, I'm talking about Jordie,Reiko and AlB. I'd like to see Higgins get a run and hoping Levi Aamua has an outstanding super rugby year, Narawa has more X factor at centre than Reiko
Yeah but who would you put in that’s going to bust open a defence?
Maybe Leicester when he comes back, but there’s not a game breaker floating around.
the best analysis - couldn't you do commentary live?
you guys put on a lekka chat......thnx
Who gets start at 7 and 14?
Didn't DMac say in an interview that the feedback he got was that he wasn't managing games well enough?
Argentina have beaten SA, Oz, ABs and the French so far this year... so I'm backing them to beat Ireland in a close one... their goal will be to put back to back performances together and will start with Ireland;)
Against France, with Sam Cane out, there be no better opportunity to test Ardie at 7. Especially to keep Dupont at bay.
And Sititi can also play his favorite position in a big game.
God I have never seen so much about a rugby match in my life before 😅
REMEMBER THE SPRINGBOKS MADE ALOT OF CHANGES FOR THE SCOTLAND GAME
11 changes from their last game
Saffer here. The Bok lineout is very concerning. I reckon England will be targeting that.
Joe is a great addition. Bring him back again
Love watching this ABs team slowly come of age. England will win the 6 Nations if they can iron out 1 or 2 issues. They are playing wide rugby.
32:04 it's not about the spectacle🤦🏾. Agree nobody is saying "more box kicks" but also we're saying no more blocking! It's not the NFL, just don't be in front of the player with the ball, simple
Ireland invented the double croc roll when they took out Malcolm Marx in the July Tests!
clarke 13 ioane left wing love right wing jordan at the back. just a thought ? we need tries finish this next game on top these close ones are nothing to do with the forward platform its the finishing and handling letting us down
Razor waiting for Ennor to return from injury and he'll be the next 13 thats why he hasn't played Proctor against the big teams
@@silemon916 hes good but made of glass dudes always injured, i reckon we need the penetration line breaking and wingers actually scoring in the corner. need to put the boot away, not our dna
@shanecriddle-z5h we need Joesph Manu to come play 12 he's the xfactor we are missing. Maybe even try Proctor at 13 but I have a funny feeling Ennor will be the man how many years did he play with Razor at the crusaders. Stevenson and Reiko on the wings jordan 15
Great work boys! Love the Steve Hansen impersonation....mumble mumble mumble tone it down boys....
You guys are so much better than the Breakdown... thanks for the show
Find a new barber James 🥴🤣
Players get injured by crock roll..so let's stick with Red
I’ll admit I’m a DMac hater but the glazing for this performance needs to stop. Out of the 6 kicks he made out of 8 attempts only 1 was difficult, which was the 1 that fell off the tee. In his positional play he didn’t do anything that well. He made a few unforced errors such as knock ons and a forward pass. The pass he threw to Sititi in the lead up to the Will Jordan try was at his boot laces. He’s also a liability on defense.
we need players to settle into positions if we play barret until the world cup we will be left with no one, the more game time he has the better he will be, if you can’t see the improvements he’s made this year you’re blind, look at south africa they have multiple players that can slot into position and still play great, and that’s what the allblacks are trying to perfect
Sometimes harder to get out of the All Blacks than in... Definite weak spot in defence against able opponents. I love and respect a lot about him as a player and as a person though.
Day boo! 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣