Not gonna lie, it wasn't even really the season it was the glitch. Running to a new zone coming back and getting stacks on stacks of roles for the farmed gun. SMH... never gonna happen again.
Into to the light season shows what bungie seasons could be when instead of Story, Narrative you just focus on game play loot grind. Im so happy Bungie brought back the loot chase with Into the light. Crafted weapons took the grind away
Don’t get me wrong Prophecy is cool, but Presage is way cooler imo. Just a more unique experience and I enjoyed my replays more. Definitely a personal thing though.
@@Skarrow9 I've always thought that with a chonkier boss in that middle hangar encounter and a proper set of armor/weapons, Presage and to the same extent Seraph's Shield, Avalon, Starcrossed could be dungeons. Avalon could easily...easily be a dungeon.
@@oxsila Another hot take, the encounter was altered enough from the strike to where I didn't mind the reused boss. And yes, gameplay wise, Avalon is the best one, maybe tied with Seraph's Shield. Though from an environment perspective, Presage still reins supreme.
Honestly, Season of the Drifter wasn’t a bad season (Outside of Reckoning) it was just a very very niche season. I honestly believe that if we ever got a PvP focused season it would be received just as badly as Drifter was. Also, let’s talk about the loot from Drifter, and I don’t mean the weapons but the perks. This season added Killing Tally, Master of Arms, Firing Line, Subsistence, Overflow, swashbuckler, Demolinist (I believe) and a few more
yeah this guys trippin season of drifter is no where near D. Pretty much all the three seasons after forsaken were better than majority of the other seasons.
Loot was fine. The activities were both absolutely awful. You can have the best loot ever, but if playing the reward loop makes me want to pull a cheese grater over my nipples I’m going to hate it lmao
I actually liked the loop. It made you play one activity to have an advantage in the other. Sure, if you hated the bridge encounter or Gambit, you were in for a tough time..
@@masterjim666 The core idea of the loop was cool, but Prime was my least favorite version of gambit and the Reckoning was so horribly balanced it’s not even funny. The entire thing was like walking through wet concrete
I don’t know what it was about it but the patrol leviathan is probably my favorite seasonal activity bunjie has every made, I could be in it for over an hour and not get bored just by running from location to location doing events and getting loot.
I believe into the light is an S tier but what I have to remind myself is into the light wouldn’t be a thing without everything before if we didn’t have the raids pantheon wouldn’t be a thing if we didn’t have pinnacle weapons most of the brave weapons wouldn’t be a thing so I believe it’s a low S because if we didn’t have everything before it it wouldn’t be a thing but good video Skarrow enjoyed watching keep up the great work
Honestly Season of the Haunted, Seraph, and Deep are all insults to me as they "brought back" locations from the DCV in the worst way possible. It would have been so much cooler to have the Leviathan raid back, Titan back, and having a Mars strike back would have been a lot cooler than another same old battleground.
Season of the Chosen was S come on, it revolutionised how story was delivered to us in a proper weekly format with way more dialogue and cutscenes. Not to mention all the stuff with Crow and Zavala.
This was a good list actually. 30th I would've stuck in A, Splicer is an easy S and Haunted in A. Those are the main three I would've swapped. Oh and Worthy was dog water I'dve put Undying in D and Worthy in the DCV 😆
Shadow was the title you had the most fun grinding?! Required four flawless activity completions where no one on a 6 man team could die. I still remember dreading entering the ogre boss room at like 30 power under just waiting for some dupe to die to his eye blast or the treasure knights.
I don’t think anyone would’ve hated it, but I do think it would’ve been received much worse. That being said it was miles above anything we had gotten to that point (and most seasonal activities sense) from a gameplay perspective.
@@Skarrow9 yeah, as a seasonal activie it was a much needed improvement and i don't think everyone would've hated it however a good portion of the playerbase would.
Chosen is an easy S for me. I think a lot of people forgot how good it was for the game. Battlegrounds, regardless as to how they are seen now, were a lot of fun to just go nuts with the sandbox. Loot was amazing, Presage, the season to make grandmasters actually have a purpose (adepts weapons), bringing back classic strikes. One of the most fun times in destiny for me.
Hard disagree from me. Chosen is easily the most over rated season to me. People get so caught up over the decent narrative that they can't seem to acknowledge that's all it had going for it.
@@hylianglitchmobber7570The narrative wasn’t even the best part of the season, it introduced battlegrounds, had one new strike to destiny, had 2 new strikes to destiny 2, had a goated exotic mission, had 3 new trials guns, had really good exotics, and had good seasonal weapons.
Imo Season Of Opulance was overrated as fuck… everyone has those nostalgia goggles on for that season Also Drifter gave us Star Horse let’s not forget that
I will absolutely never understand the fascination with Niobe Labs. A weird community puzzle that wound up being bugged and couldn't be finished properly, and then it unlocked...basically nothing. Why do we make such a big deal about this? Corridors of Time makes sense. This one does not.
Season of the Chosen is ridiculously over rated. Sure the narrative was arguably the first decent seasonal story but that's all it had going for it. Mediocre & typical seasonal crap imo
you can absolutely say Into the Light is the best content drop we've had one reason: even on top of all the awesome content that CLEARS some of the overrated past ones (looking at you, Menagerie)... Into the Light is also FREE.
SoTP isn’t necessarily my favorite or anything, but I do enjoy it for what it is. I would’ve been very mad if it came back instead of CE (or before Wrath too)
One thing I really appreciate about Into the light is that we not only got a free content update but as far as i can tell there was no addition to eververse. Its nice to just have free content + cosmetics only for a change
Tbh compared to everything else that year ur right. It wasn't really special. I think people just remember it well because it was during the peak of the game. If it was during any other time it would be looked at differently
Idk the weapons were all really cool, the loot chase was good. Menagerie was very very cool and was known to be fun. The raid is pretty enjoyable in the latter half, we got a exotic mission that was unique along with the tribute hall. As well as 7 exotics, four of them being weapons
Because it was great fun activity with good endgame doing flawless master menageries loot glitch was great weapons were amazing. PvP was actually enjoyable. The season came with a raid and that pretty much automatically moves it up.
People like new stuff, and menagerie was completely unique at the time. Plus the game was in a great state, the loot was nice, the pseudo weapon crafting was cool, and it came with a raid.
You are literally the only person I’ve ever heard say they like it. I’m super curious about what you do like about it. As far as I can tell the missions only defining characteristic is the color brown
@@Skarrow9 I really liked the aesthetic mostly. The EDZ has always been my favorite place in D2. I love the old ruins vibe. Plus I really enjoyed the traversal of it all. Made it really fun to speedrun. I also had a personal connection with it from oobing in during the weeks prior when the story was building up to it. I was so sad when they chose to bring back Presage and no Harbinger as well.
Opulence is cool, menagerie is peak activity design. But personally I prefer meaningful stories, stake setting seasons, my favorites are arrivals, haunted, splicer, witch, and maybe a few more but I can’t remember all of them lol
Couldn’t disagree more😂. The actual game play comes first and foremost for me. If I’m not really playing the game what does the story matter to me. I like story but it’s a lot lower on the totem pole for me unless it’s a huge expansion then the story needs to be on par with the other aspects like it was witch queen.
@@oNextq I mean yeah I agree good activities make a season a good one. I didn’t like the public event in haunted it was boring af. But I do like the story most of all.
@@ClammyHorrorShow at the end of the day the whole conversation is entirely subjective what I enjoy is completely different from what someone else might like. It’s all subjective.
For me it’s that gambit prime was way too long per match + all of the one shotting that happened from the giant yellow bars. The mode did not at all flow well and was just super tedious imo. The current iteration of gambit is the best because it has the shortest matches
@@Skarrow9 I always thought gambit prime should have been handled like trials or ranked, so the skill difference isn't that high and people actually cared about the rolls, Imaginewould have to stick to being sentinel, invader, collector and reaper. My main problem was and is, 80% want to invade / bank 15 motes and finish the bounties. Actually trying and receiving patches for balance could have made gambit a fun game mode. Then I remember it is Destiny and they barely have pvp under control. Gambit like it is, is better of without prime for sure, but still maby in d3? ps.: Imgaine up to date Prime Armor sets with the full set glow.
I wouldn’t really consider the hunts fun tbh. They were pretty much run in a single direction for 2 minutes. Also not a fan of the harbinger (hawkmoon) mission. It just didn’t really have any character or identity compared to every other exotic mission
Crazy opinion here but bungie killed it with Ghost of the Deep and Root of Nightmares. Insane visuals, crazy armor sets, some serious meta level weapons, and great lore. RON is the best raid to run a new light through and Ghost is the best dungeon to challenge an experienced guardian. No complaints
My main response is I don’t think a “new light raid” should be introduced like 8 years into a franchise. But I do think RoN is highly underrated and I enjoy it for what it is. Definitely not anywhere close to the best raid but definitely not the worst either.
@@Skarrow9 I genuinely just think most of the community ranks thing based on nostalgia and how fresh the game still was in year 2-3 instead of objectively ranking them. I’d say the past 4 dungeons are all the best 4 in the game and the past 4 raids are all some of the best
@@pepjacklent I’d say I agree for Ghosts, Duality, and Warlords for being among the best dungeons. Spire not so much. I think RoN is bottom half of raids. Vow and the KF/CE reworks are insanely top tier though!
I basically have no choice but to put Spire at 4. The first 2 are far too easy and have no loot table anyway. Prophecy is boring and short imo. Only cool part is rainbow road which we now skip with skimmers. GoA has the worst atmosphere and visuals, the worst encounter ever (the cannons) and no PvE loot other than Gjall. The Boss fight would be good if I didn’t get 753 supers from picking up crests
@Skarrow9 yeah kinda keep that part out of my mind destiny was in a dry state at that point the premise was cool but lack of content. During and throughout its release kinda hindered it. Pirates are cool until you do it a million times over
@@Skarrow9 so did Worthy. The game was not functional for most of the season with constant error codes. Trials was broken by week 2. Seraph Towers were incredibly boring and clearing bunkers was essentially a daily lost sector which you could pay (in game currency) to skip. 4th Horseman quest was forgettable (I think you just had to do legend lost sectors right?), there were 3 story beats the entire season (intro mission, The Lie, live event). The Lie was bugged on launch and did not function for 3 days, and Bungie had to buff the quest because the community BOYCOTTED it. Worthy had the first ever Guardian Games (replacing Revelry, a better event than 2020 GG imo) which was entirely bounty grinds (there were no special strikes or pvp playlists, those were added in Witch Queen and Lightfall respectively). Grandmaster Nightfalls were introduced here but of course at launch they literally had the same rewards as a Master Nightfall (though there was a slightly increased exotic chance), because Bungie didn’t want us to farm them and instead said they intended GMs to “watchable” (also no adept weapons in GMs or Trials). Warmind Cells were admittedly a great addition though. Plunder had Ketchcrash, Arc 3.0, King’s Fall and a seasonal story. That is MILES better than Worthy. I didn’t like Plunder that much either but I am a certified Worthy HATER
@@Skarrow9 I know it is anecdotal, but I stopped playing the game and uninstalled during season of the worthy and didn't return until season of the chosen. I had no such feelings during season of plunder. I was bored during plunder, maybe apathetic, but season of the worthy made me rage quit because it was bounty simulator the game with a terrible public event. You slide on top of that that Shadowkeep was mediocre and season of the undying sucked, it was an absolute failure of a season following season of dawn. It's your list, so it's about how you feel, with respect, but for me worthy will always be the second worst season after undying.
@Skarrow9 for the very first raid in Destiny, I think it holds up. It didn't need an entire rework like Crota's End did to move into Destiny 2. That being said, I do like the rework to Crota's End.
The As and Ss are mainly because you have people to raid with, the solo experience makes all of these B tier if not C. It’s not a game made for people who don’t have groups to play with. Into the Light isn’t a season, it’s carrying the current one. Without it, it would be a C.
fireteam finder exists, the Destiny 2 LFG discord exists, lots of people do runs without a mic using only text chat or no comms at all. Of course if you have any sort of social anxiety etc then it’s understandable, but there’s really no other reason not to try raids and higher tier content nowadays. EDIT: and I don’t mean this in an insulting way! I genuinely think raids are the single best experience in destiny and they’re more accessible than ever before. Highly recommend giving them a try
No way bro placed Worthy above Hunt 💀 My list: S tier - Forge, Opulence, Arrivals, Lost, Into the Light A tier - Dawn, Splicer, Haunted, Wish B tier - Hunt, Undying, Chosen, 30th anniversary, Seraph, Defiance, Deep, Witch C tier - Risen, Plunder D tier - Drifter F tier - Worthy I loved Menagerie, I didn't use the bug to get more weapons than intended, Worthy is F tier cause of this shitty public event (Seraph towers? Rasputin towers? I don't even remember name of this event)
@@Skarrow9 ok ok lol in all honesty I had forgotten that scourge had dropped in that season. But you’re right an just for those to points alone I’ll agree with your A rating 👍🏻
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Opulence was that "you had to be there" moment
Ngl I played it and not very fun
Not gonna lie, it wasn't even really the season it was the glitch. Running to a new zone coming back and getting stacks on stacks of roles for the farmed gun. SMH... never gonna happen again.
Into to the light season shows what bungie seasons could be when instead of Story, Narrative you just focus on game play loot grind. Im so happy Bungie brought back the loot chase with Into the light. Crafted weapons took the grind away
100, Whisper returning beats Bad Juju Quest from Oppulence.
Haunted’s underrated imo
ill never forget the week one of farming events to get keys and opening the chests grind to get my mini tool lol
The story was top notch
It had such a good loot loop and so many fun weapons. Huge fan of the Levi patrol space too
a full patrol destination SHOULD BE the standard of all seasons
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PRESAGE OVER PROPHECY? WHAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Don’t get me wrong Prophecy is cool, but Presage is way cooler imo. Just a more unique experience and I enjoyed my replays more. Definitely a personal thing though.
@@Skarrow9 I've always thought that with a chonkier boss in that middle hangar encounter and a proper set of armor/weapons, Presage and to the same extent Seraph's Shield, Avalon, Starcrossed could be dungeons.
Avalon could easily...easily be a dungeon.
@@DeLawrence97 Hot take, had brakion been an original boss asset, Avalon would be the best exotic mission we've ever had.
@@oxsila Another hot take, the encounter was altered enough from the strike to where I didn't mind the reused boss.
And yes, gameplay wise, Avalon is the best one, maybe tied with Seraph's Shield.
Though from an environment perspective, Presage still reins supreme.
@@DeLawrence97 Yeah unless Avalon reused less stuff it's hard to top Presage
Honestly, Season of the Drifter wasn’t a bad season (Outside of Reckoning) it was just a very very niche season. I honestly believe that if we ever got a PvP focused season it would be received just as badly as Drifter was.
Also, let’s talk about the loot from Drifter, and I don’t mean the weapons but the perks. This season added Killing Tally, Master of Arms, Firing Line, Subsistence, Overflow, swashbuckler, Demolinist (I believe) and a few more
yeah this guys trippin season of drifter is no where near D. Pretty much all the three seasons after forsaken were better than majority of the other seasons.
Loot was fine. The activities were both absolutely awful. You can have the best loot ever, but if playing the reward loop makes me want to pull a cheese grater over my nipples I’m going to hate it lmao
I actually liked the loop. It made you play one activity to have an advantage in the other. Sure, if you hated the bridge encounter or Gambit, you were in for a tough time..
@@masterjim666 The core idea of the loop was cool, but Prime was my least favorite version of gambit and the Reckoning was so horribly balanced it’s not even funny. The entire thing was like walking through wet concrete
Also one two punch
I don’t know what it was about it but the patrol leviathan is probably my favorite seasonal activity bunjie has every made, I could be in it for over an hour and not get bored just by running from location to location doing events and getting loot.
It was super awesome for sure. I wish the nightmare activity was better though.
I hope they play around with seasonal patrol zones in the future!
Id like ghosts of the deep a lot more if the bosses didnt have an overshield for no fkn reason at the start of every dps
u probably already know but arbalest one shots the overshields
I hated gambit prime but i loved reckoning 😭
Haunted getting respect is nice. The haunted leviathan combined with the solar 3.0 spam felt like destinys version of hell
I believe into the light is an S tier but what I have to remind myself is into the light wouldn’t be a thing without everything before if we didn’t have the raids pantheon wouldn’t be a thing if we didn’t have pinnacle weapons most of the brave weapons wouldn’t be a thing so I believe it’s a low S because if we didn’t have everything before it it wouldn’t be a thing but good video Skarrow enjoyed watching keep up the great work
My top 5 in terms of story (in no particular order) are Witch, Dawn, Seraph, Splicer and Chosen. What's yours?
Honestly Season of the Haunted, Seraph, and Deep are all insults to me as they "brought back" locations from the DCV in the worst way possible. It would have been so much cooler to have the Leviathan raid back, Titan back, and having a Mars strike back would have been a lot cooler than another same old battleground.
Season of the Chosen was S come on, it revolutionised how story was delivered to us in a proper weekly format with way more dialogue and cutscenes. Not to mention all the stuff with Crow and Zavala.
Splicer is my goat season
This was a good list actually. 30th I would've stuck in A, Splicer is an easy S and Haunted in A. Those are the main three I would've swapped. Oh and Worthy was dog water I'dve put Undying in D and Worthy in the DCV 😆
Shadow was the title you had the most fun grinding?! Required four flawless activity completions where no one on a 6 man team could die. I still remember dreading entering the ogre boss room at like 30 power under just waiting for some dupe to die to his eye blast or the treasure knights.
100000%! I love me some meaningfully difficult content.
based echthar enjoyer
Menagerie is only rated highly because it was bugged for most of it.
If it released the way it was intended, people would've hated it.
I don’t think anyone would’ve hated it, but I do think it would’ve been received much worse. That being said it was miles above anything we had gotten to that point (and most seasonal activities sense) from a gameplay perspective.
@@Skarrow9 yeah, as a seasonal activie it was a much needed improvement and i don't think everyone would've hated it however a good portion of the playerbase would.
Chosen is an easy S for me. I think a lot of people forgot how good it was for the game. Battlegrounds, regardless as to how they are seen now, were a lot of fun to just go nuts with the sandbox. Loot was amazing, Presage, the season to make grandmasters actually have a purpose (adepts weapons), bringing back classic strikes. One of the most fun times in destiny for me.
Hard disagree from me. Chosen is easily the most over rated season to me. People get so caught up over the decent narrative that they can't seem to acknowledge that's all it had going for it.
@@hylianglitchmobber7570The narrative wasn’t even the best part of the season, it introduced battlegrounds, had one new strike to destiny, had 2 new strikes to destiny 2, had a goated exotic mission, had 3 new trials guns, had really good exotics, and had good seasonal weapons.
Imo Season Of Opulance was overrated as fuck… everyone has those nostalgia goggles on for that season
Also Drifter gave us Star Horse let’s not forget that
To this day I still have a desire to do Shattered Real and Override. It’s a frustrating itch that I can’t scratch anymore.
Plunder made me quit till final shape idk man burned me down boredom.
The room 40 Easter egg in Lost was so awesome, crazy that it was completely skipped over
The room 40 Easter egg?
@@Skarrow9 ROOM FOUR DEEZ NUTZ ON YOUR FUCKING CHIN LMAOOOOOO
@@Skarrow9 room four deez nuts on yo chin lmaoo
Why won’t RUclips let me reply 😫
Wtf is room 40?
I will absolutely never understand the fascination with Niobe Labs. A weird community puzzle that wound up being bugged and couldn't be finished properly, and then it unlocked...basically nothing.
Why do we make such a big deal about this? Corridors of Time makes sense. This one does not.
Season of the Chosen is ridiculously over rated. Sure the narrative was arguably the first decent seasonal story but that's all it had going for it. Mediocre & typical seasonal crap imo
Season of Chosen is S tier
you can absolutely say Into the Light is the best content drop we've had
one reason: even on top of all the awesome content that CLEARS some of the overrated past ones (looking at you, Menagerie)... Into the Light is also FREE.
Saw the thumbnail, PLEASE tell me season of plunder was F tier
Plunder was b tier
@@carlislewoudsma4717 damn, the season that almost made me quit Destiny, and the one that made me value CURSE OF OSIRIS was B tier? Well I’ll be
@@sharkbaitjr_9923it’s D tier. They’re messing with you
@@sharkbaitjr_9923Bruh just watch the video 😭
@@Skarrow9 I did and thank you for putting it where it should be
I thought you said you didn't like SotP...
SoTP isn’t necessarily my favorite or anything, but I do enjoy it for what it is. I would’ve been very mad if it came back instead of CE (or before Wrath too)
@@Skarrow9 Ohhhh. Right Right. I Remember Now.
One thing I really appreciate about Into the light is that we not only got a free content update but as far as i can tell there was no addition to eververse. Its nice to just have free content + cosmetics only for a change
Season if the Dawn had Stocks we were all businessman. Worthy gave us Trails
Iv never understood why literally everyone thinks opulence is the best was nothing special tbh but the rest is pretty close
Tbh compared to everything else that year ur right. It wasn't really special. I think people just remember it well because it was during the peak of the game. If it was during any other time it would be looked at differently
Idk the weapons were all really cool, the loot chase was good. Menagerie was very very cool and was known to be fun. The raid is pretty enjoyable in the latter half, we got a exotic mission that was unique along with the tribute hall. As well as 7 exotics, four of them being weapons
Forsaken and it's whole year of content can be summed up as such. Lot's of content, but also a lot of filler.
Because it was great fun activity with good endgame doing flawless master menageries loot glitch was great weapons were amazing. PvP was actually enjoyable. The season came with a raid and that pretty much automatically moves it up.
People like new stuff, and menagerie was completely unique at the time. Plus the game was in a great state, the loot was nice, the pseudo weapon crafting was cool, and it came with a raid.
I will not take this Harbinger slander! Harbinger was S tier second only to Zero Hour!
You are literally the only person I’ve ever heard say they like it. I’m super curious about what you do like about it.
As far as I can tell the missions only defining characteristic is the color brown
@@Skarrow9 I really liked the aesthetic mostly. The EDZ has always been my favorite place in D2. I love the old ruins vibe. Plus I really enjoyed the traversal of it all. Made it really fun to speedrun. I also had a personal connection with it from oobing in during the weeks prior when the story was building up to it.
I was so sad when they chose to bring back Presage and no Harbinger as well.
I'm late but GET THIS MAN TO 100K
I think worthy had trials right ???
Opulence is cool, menagerie is peak activity design. But personally I prefer meaningful stories, stake setting seasons, my favorites are arrivals, haunted, splicer, witch, and maybe a few more but I can’t remember all of them lol
Couldn’t disagree more😂. The actual game play comes first and foremost for me. If I’m not really playing the game what does the story matter to me. I like story but it’s a lot lower on the totem pole for me unless it’s a huge expansion then the story needs to be on par with the other aspects like it was witch queen.
@@oNextq I mean yeah I agree good activities make a season a good one. I didn’t like the public event in haunted it was boring af. But I do like the story most of all.
@@ClammyHorrorShow at the end of the day the whole conversation is entirely subjective what I enjoy is completely different from what someone else might like. It’s all subjective.
@@oNextq sure I get it, but we can be respectful of each others opinions fr fr 💪🏻
@@ClammyHorrorShow oh yea ranking seasons is definitely not something someone should worked up about😂
Onslaught the best dlc in history of destiny!!
lol and it is free
Hating on reckoning I understand, but gambit prime > gambit. It was just the matchmaking that was bad imo.
For me it’s that gambit prime was way too long per match + all of the one shotting that happened from the giant yellow bars.
The mode did not at all flow well and was just super tedious imo.
The current iteration of gambit is the best because it has the shortest matches
@@Skarrow9
I always thought gambit prime should have been handled like trials or ranked, so the skill difference isn't that high and people actually cared about the rolls, Imaginewould have to stick to being sentinel, invader, collector and reaper.
My main problem was and is, 80% want to invade / bank 15 motes and finish the bounties.
Actually trying and receiving patches for balance could have made gambit a fun game mode.
Then I remember it is Destiny and they barely have pvp under control.
Gambit like it is, is better of without prime for sure, but still maby in d3?
ps.: Imgaine up to date Prime Armor sets with the full set glow.
season of the hunt is at least C tier story was solid the weapons and the activity were fun and can’t forget the return of hawkmoon
I wouldn’t really consider the hunts fun tbh. They were pretty much run in a single direction for 2 minutes. Also not a fan of the harbinger (hawkmoon) mission. It just didn’t really have any character or identity compared to every other exotic mission
@@Skarrow9 yea I agree it has its problems but it’s definitely not as bad as people say it is
Dares top 3 ? What are you smoking ?
It’s widely considered to be one of the best content drops, so I’m not sure many people would consider that a crazy opinion tbh
Crazy opinion here but bungie killed it with Ghost of the Deep and Root of Nightmares. Insane visuals, crazy armor sets, some serious meta level weapons, and great lore. RON is the best raid to run a new light through and Ghost is the best dungeon to challenge an experienced guardian. No complaints
My main response is I don’t think a “new light raid” should be introduced like 8 years into a franchise. But I do think RoN is highly underrated and I enjoy it for what it is. Definitely not anywhere close to the best raid but definitely not the worst either.
@@Skarrow9 I genuinely just think most of the community ranks thing based on nostalgia and how fresh the game still was in year 2-3 instead of objectively ranking them. I’d say the past 4 dungeons are all the best 4 in the game and the past 4 raids are all some of the best
@@pepjacklent I’d say I agree for Ghosts, Duality, and Warlords for being among the best dungeons. Spire not so much.
I think RoN is bottom half of raids. Vow and the KF/CE reworks are insanely top tier though!
I basically have no choice but to put Spire at 4. The first 2 are far too easy and have no loot table anyway. Prophecy is boring and short imo. Only cool part is rainbow road which we now skip with skimmers. GoA has the worst atmosphere and visuals, the worst encounter ever (the cannons) and no PvE loot other than Gjall. The Boss fight would be good if I didn’t get 753 supers from picking up crests
I didnt mind season of plunder. It wasnt good ill give it that but it wasnt jokers wild bad.
I mean that season nearly single-handedly killed Destiny. Easily the worst vibes I’ve ever seen across the community. Even worse than Lightfall imo
@Skarrow9 yeah kinda keep that part out of my mind destiny was in a dry state at that point the premise was cool but lack of content. During and throughout its release kinda hindered it. Pirates are cool until you do it a million times over
@@Skarrow9 on top of that plunder had some major bugs and wasn’t decent until the last month.
Coil has best loot/per time
For a season, 100%. I think Onslaught is a tad better, especially since those weapons are sooooo good!
Grasp doesn't even have artifice armor
If I’m not mistaken Grasp is where Artifice armor was actually introduced into the game.
yes it does plonker
worthy being in c tier is a crime against humanity. i think its the worst non-expansion season and its not even close.
Plunder literally almost killed destiny
@@Skarrow9 so did Worthy. The game was not functional for most of the season with constant error codes. Trials was broken by week 2. Seraph Towers were incredibly boring and clearing bunkers was essentially a daily lost sector which you could pay (in game currency) to skip. 4th Horseman quest was forgettable (I think you just had to do legend lost sectors right?), there were 3 story beats the entire season (intro mission, The Lie, live event). The Lie was bugged on launch and did not function for 3 days, and Bungie had to buff the quest because the community BOYCOTTED it. Worthy had the first ever Guardian Games (replacing Revelry, a better event than 2020 GG imo) which was entirely bounty grinds (there were no special strikes or pvp playlists, those were added in Witch Queen and Lightfall respectively). Grandmaster Nightfalls were introduced here but of course at launch they literally had the same rewards as a Master Nightfall (though there was a slightly increased exotic chance), because Bungie didn’t want us to farm them and instead said they intended GMs to “watchable” (also no adept weapons in GMs or Trials). Warmind Cells were admittedly a great addition though.
Plunder had Ketchcrash, Arc 3.0, King’s Fall and a seasonal story. That is MILES better than Worthy. I didn’t like Plunder that much either but I am a certified Worthy HATER
@@Skarrow9 I know it is anecdotal, but I stopped playing the game and uninstalled during season of the worthy and didn't return until season of the chosen. I had no such feelings during season of plunder. I was bored during plunder, maybe apathetic, but season of the worthy made me rage quit because it was bounty simulator the game with a terrible public event. You slide on top of that that Shadowkeep was mediocre and season of the undying sucked, it was an absolute failure of a season following season of dawn. It's your list, so it's about how you feel, with respect, but for me worthy will always be the second worst season after undying.
Why you hating on VoG so much?? 🤔
I just dont really think it’s a good raid 🤷♂️.
@Skarrow9 for the very first raid in Destiny, I think it holds up. It didn't need an entire rework like Crota's End did to move into Destiny 2.
That being said, I do like the rework to Crota's End.
@@GloverGaming3 I would like it a lot more if it did get an entire rework like CE. It’s just boring imo, simple as that.
The As and Ss are mainly because you have people to raid with, the solo experience makes all of these B tier if not C.
It’s not a game made for people who don’t have groups to play with.
Into the Light isn’t a season, it’s carrying the current one. Without it, it would be a C.
fireteam finder exists, the Destiny 2 LFG discord exists, lots of people do runs without a mic using only text chat or no comms at all.
Of course if you have any sort of social anxiety etc then it’s understandable, but there’s really no other reason not to try raids and higher tier content nowadays.
EDIT: and I don’t mean this in an insulting way! I genuinely think raids are the single best experience in destiny and they’re more accessible than ever before. Highly recommend giving them a try
No way bro placed Worthy above Hunt 💀
My list:
S tier - Forge, Opulence, Arrivals, Lost, Into the Light
A tier - Dawn, Splicer, Haunted, Wish
B tier - Hunt, Undying, Chosen, 30th anniversary, Seraph, Defiance, Deep, Witch
C tier - Risen, Plunder
D tier - Drifter
F tier - Worthy
I loved Menagerie, I didn't use the bug to get more weapons than intended, Worthy is F tier cause of this shitty public event (Seraph towers? Rasputin towers? I don't even remember name of this event)
there’s no way you’re a phd.
Putting anything made after 2019 over Black Armory should get you tarred and feathered
Nah Forge literally only had Niobe labs and SoTP. Everything else was mid af
Niobe labs and scourge weren't enough to carry how bad forges were as an activity.
Forge is definitely not an A
Niobe Labs + Scourge carried
@@Skarrow9 ok ok lol in all honesty I had forgotten that scourge had dropped in that season. But you’re right an just for those to points alone I’ll agree with your A rating 👍🏻
I only remember playing altars about 7 times total. I still have to collect the final arcana cards and still have 300 offerings to use.