You said you were going to make people mad and I was like, nahhh it’ll probably be fine and then you said prophecy as last. Now I’m in the process of hiring a hitman.
Ok, prophecy in last would have broken my heart back in season 11, but I genuinely think this was the best call now. As much as I love prophecy, it feels the most outdated out of any of the dungeons (even if shattered throne and pit are technically older).
Prophecy is one of the only dungeons that actually feels like a real raid but for 3 people. The light and dark mechanic is pretty dope, the atmosphere is really grand and interesting, and the final boss damage phase keeps you on your toes. It’s also paced really well and nothing is time gated. If you know the encounters, you can move quickly. Pit of Heresy wins atmosphere for me. Super chill but almost too easy. Wish there was 1 more boss and it would be top tier
You forgot about enc 2, the light n dark mechanic while cool is pretty much game with extra steps which is nothing major just not as exciting, the finale bosses damage phase is pretty cool tho
Would love to see sunset weapons that are matching the theme getting added to these dungeons (like they did with prophecy) . Atleast the current ones should get a perk refresh. Don’t think they should be craftable tho.
My list: War Lord's Ruin - the difficulty and skill needed were well balanced. Ads are a touch excessive at a few points but still manageable. Grasp of Avarice- I just love the theme but that sniper shank in the boss room can go frick himself. Shattered Throne - I really love the space and it is fun. Currently working on a solo clear. Duality - this one took a while to grow on me but I enjoy it now. Prophecy - love the tone shift and how different it is. I would love to get a solo clear but still trying to learn the best way to go about that because I just am not getting it. Ghosts of the Deep- amazing look and honestly I like it quite a lot but the final boss kills it for me. No boss should have that much health and take that long to set up such short DPS phases on. Spire of the Watcher - I hate this one. I am good enough I have taught it to new players and know how to get the collectables but I hate it. I only will touch it for good friends and want it over as soon as we load in. Pit of Heresy- honestly not sure as I only have 1 clear from like 2 years ago.
I've run Warlord countless times and I still think it's overrated af, weapons are mid and armor more so, music is just iron lord nostalgia, speaking of which you could replace the Scorn with Fallen Splicers and get a Wrath of the Machine poser. Also the title for it is even Wrathbearer, imagine if this is why they didn't give us WotM reprised, cuz they already did it with Warlords.
The mechanics are just boring and janky at times. Sitting in totems is just boring & it’s rng if the dude wants to spawn 2 in or not. Then having to dunk balls on top of that on ogre is also just boring. Then on final boss the buff transfer mechanic is just weird to do especially when 2 or 3 go to one person. Atleast the final boss is cool with having many smaller damage phases.
I currently have 122 clears of duality. ask me how many of those I enjoyed :) (yes obviously a good 60% were caiatl checkpoints). I also still, after over a year, dont have the roll of the SMG I want (Demo Repulsor)
9:10 people dislike pit of heresy, self included because its a knock off Crotas end, which is now in the game. The armor is the same armor from shadow keep campaign and the weapons are terrible. Easily worst dungeon imo.
@@wingedskull5666 I can give you some suggestions for the solo flawless, first encounter is super easy, just bring a high dps weapon for ogres, like a heavy machine gun, hammerhead is really good against them. Tunnels I’d just say play safe and pop a well or bubble if an ogre corners you in a hallway then dunk. Third encounter is the hardest one imo, bring a well, DO NOT go for the knight in mid, it’s a death sentence bc totem will wipe before you finish killing him. Kill knights up too w hammerhead, alternate between the left and right knights and dunk the orbs they drop. Run sunshot for ad clear it’s amazing in that encounter. Pop well after every 2nd dunk, so pop well after you dunk 2 then 4 and then pop another if your overwhelmed by ads. Run the warlock chest piece that gives you super energy for kills in the well it’s amazing. Finally play extremely safe in the wizard section, do not try to blow through the traps. Go slowly, find the three wizards and kill the w whatever. Final encounter took me 4 phases to kill, so go for the shrieker boss first, kill it and the acolytes. If you kill all of them first it makes the boss encounter 10x easier. Kill the knight and wizard next but DO NOT dunk a ball on a totem the boss is text to, alternate the dunks where the boss is not standing by. Then when damage starts immediately pop well and start shooting w hammerhead on his head, do not use rockets bc you might blow yourself up. That’s it! I hope this is a bit helpful :)
My list (worst to best): Grasp of Avarice Shattered Throne Prophecy Duality Ghosts of the Deep Pit of Heresy (It’s the only Dungeon I’ve Solo Flawlessed, so it holds a special place in my heart) Spire of the Watcher (It was my first dungeon I played on release, so it also holds a special place in my heart) Warlord’s Ruin
This is kinda crazy. I actually completely disagree with almost every ranking. Duality, Grasp, and Prophecy are my favorite raids, and the ones I always choose to Sherpa people through.
In terms of difficulty, mechanics and overall enemy density, Ghosts of the Deep should be bottom 3. Not to mention how horrible that final boss fight is considering how often it teleports and can nuke you bc it either never misses or those moths are so overturned it’s absurd.
At least you got number 1 correct but shattered throne at 2 is just weird. Talk about a dungeon that has aged badly, doesn’t have any exclusive loot, both bosses being boring with one literally being completed in like 30 seconds with every gun you could use in the game. I’d rather do every other dungeon than shattered easily
I’m a certified shattered throne hater. It’s just a running simulator, first encounter is running between different areas killing enemies, then there’s a marathon through several different areas including the slowed room to the ogre boss, who just falls over. Then it’s another albeit slightly less tedious run up lifts to the final encounter, where the boss dies in 30 seconds. Only one mechanic throughout which isn’t particularly engaging, plus you spend more time running than actually completing the encounters. Absolutely horrible for repeated runs for me. Not to mention how unnecessarily dark it is all the time. Similar issue for me with ghosts of the deep. First encounter and the run to the second encounter take an obscenely long time which is awful for repeated runs, which ruin an otherwise decent dungeon imo
1. Duality (love it) 2.Pit (quick and repayable) 3.Warlords (really great, need to play more) 4.Prophecy (bosses are great, rest is a snooze) 5.Spire (bosses are fun) 6.Ghost (beautiful, but way to extra with boss health. First encounter is the worst thing in destiny. Traversing takes way too long) 7.Grasp (cool, but just alright) 8.Shattered (hate the first encounter, and way too much moving to next destination.
My List: Shattered Throne - I do not like this dungeon at all. I don't generally like the Ascendant plane; it feels more like a long strike or an exotic mission. Going through the tower before Dul Incaru is cool, but basically speeding your way through doesn't really feel fulfilling or have much depth to it. Solo flawless is easy, it is just don't be dumb and don't try to go so fast you fall off. Pit of Heresy - I've run this solo for the past 8 weeks (getting the ship), and once you know how to virtually 1 sword the first encounter, it goes a bit quicker. It isn't a bad dungeon, it is just outclassed by all the newer dungeons there are. The chasm is cool, but the other encounters get annoying, especially with how long they can take (if you don't kwtd or are not confident with solo activities). Alright solo flawless too, not too difficult Grasp of Avarice - This dungeon is definitely made based on nostalgia. Much like TFS Collectors Edition, the nostalgia means nothing to me since I was not around to experience those things. The first boss is cool, the whole trap thing is done a lot better by Warlord's Ruin, and the shield part drags on forever, even in whole fire teams. The journey of the Fireteam was cool to listen to, and the solo flawless isn't that bad if you are good at solo things. Prophecy - Cool aesthetics, and that is about it. This dungeon just feels, empty like there is nothing really there and that it's just killing the boss, and doing the puzzle without any depth. The Dead Sea (or as everyone says Rainbow Road) definitely carries it though, that is super cool. It also is a fun thing to run with friends (especially f2p ones), and is a good introduction to dungeons. Solo flawless is eh, not too bad but considering I did Duality as my first, it came out a bit easy. Duality - The aesthetic is cool, the mechanics have depth to them and it is fun to run solo. Although this was my first solo flawless, I like the other dungeons more due to the journey and aesthetic you encounter. Going through Claus's mind is very cool, though there wasn't much evolution of the atmosphere in the sense of danger (think TFS where you start in this green lush Tower and make your way to the Witness in the twisted deserts.) Warlord's Ruin - Very cool dungeon, the atmosphere is great, I love going from the first encounter to the mountain where we fight the last 2 bosses, and the prison puzzle feels really cool. The traps are done better than Grasp, as they don't feel overbearing but you also need to be alert when going through. Scaling the mountain to the final boss is also super cool, and the final boss was definitely a reflection on how I usually approach Solo Flawless dungeons (quick burst dps phases, instead of one long drawn out "do as much dps as you can" phase). Solo Flawless was not too hard for the first 2 bosses, but you have to adapt how you play (at least on Hunter) for the last boss. Fun dungeon, with good-looking armour (I don't really care about weapons, even if e.g the Sniper was good, who's gonna run it over Succession or Supremecy?). Also FIX THE EMBLEM PLEASE BUNGO. Spire of the Watcher - I LOVE the atmosphere in this dungeon. From opening the bunker door to going through the Spire (and seeing the final boss in the first jumping puzzle), then ascending the Spire, going down it, and seeing the Chernoyble-like core, with the boss actually posing a threat. Solo flawless emblem looks really cool, and it isn't miserable to do. It just feels good to do, and when you know how to exactly do the nodes it just hits right (probably why Ron is my favorite raid, since it's all about speed and precision rather than mechanically miserable). Ghosts of the Deep - This is my favourite dungeon. From starting out in the Archology, to making your way down it, seeing how it is abandoned and has succumbed to the seas of Titan, the then going inside the Hive ship, fighting the boss underwater and then above (I love how he looks when chasing you, like a true Trials of Osiris Titan), to then going through the back of the ship until we finally meet Oryx and the Lucent Hive. It feels like you actually need to use your brain during the fights, and that there is a very real threat of being punished for not being alert. Also the funnest Solo Flawless in the game, I've done every Dungeon, and this one definitely felt the most fulfilling to do, and actually gave a reasonable challenge that other dungeons simply cannot hit. Yes, it does drag on a bit (and is not solo-friendly at all), but all of those pale in comparison to what it shows and the journey we go on.
This guy is the perfect example of why Destiny is dying. I bet he's one of those that wants now encounters and encounters that are different, however he's knocking every dungeon for the same issues. He wants all the dungeons to be fast paced, he doesn't want traversal sections and he doesn't like bosses with a lot of health. So what he wants is dungeons that you can fly through and kill the boss instantly. He's complaining about the water section in GOTD, he's complaining about any encounter that requires you to repeat the process and he's complaining about any slow sections. Different dungeons are supposed to have different encounters and different pacing. So if Bungie did dungeons the way this guy wants it, he'll be flying through the dungeons, complete it multiple times and then complain about no new content coming out. Just enjoy the dungeons how they are made and do the encounters at the pace it is set and you won't get bored of it. Bungie are in a no win position with people this guy.
Mad respect for this list. The way you feel about Shattered Throne is me with Pit 💯 1. Pit 2. Grasp (even like shield encounter but needs to be 3 not four for sure) Warlord Shattered Prophesy (used to hate it but it's grown on me) Ghosts (wholeheartedly agree that the encounters need to be 3 not 4 and spawn at the same time, plus you do the mechanics to start DPS and there's still an annoying shield you have to break for no reason). Spire (Harpy is worst thing ever) 8. Duality (Team Hate It)
Duality - I’ve always found this one quite fun. Good cqc encounters with an amazing aesthetic and loot. Warlords - Cool environments and bosses, but the loot is ass apart from the sidearm imo. Ghosts of the deep - Near perfect dungeon in terms of environments, encounters and loot. 1st encounter sucks tho, but the traversal sections aren’t even that bad imo people just don’t like them because you can’t clear it in 5 secs with eager edge etc. Prophecy - Coolest visuals for a dungeon and the Kell Echo is a great boss fight. Decent loot as well. Other two encounters are just kinda okay. Pit of heresy - a decent speedrun dungeon with a interesting vibe. Nothing really noteworthy here but nothing bad either (apart from loot) Grasp - Was fun at the time but there was only really two weapons worth getting and the encounters didn’t really stand out that much for me. Shield encounter may be the most tedious dungeon encounter Shattered throne - the og vault of glass of dungeons. Cool for it’s time but rating this highly is because of nostalgia and nothing more. Only drops dreaming city loot and the fights are over before they can even get going. Spire of the watcher - maybe not the objective worst, but I don’t like a single thing about this dungeon. Bad mechanic, annoying bosses and mid loot. Cowboy armour was cool I guess.
You musta seen/that from Matics lol!!! His list had Gambit above Grasp … That opinion or even joke … Opened the can of worms for our “Dark Guardian” Brothers … the children, the know it alls, the haters, and the crazies out hahahhahaha !!!! But Honestly close too “ my list “ And Def FU to Spires Harpy Eyes Solo lol
It’s not so much that I’m mad at the order but more that the dungeon I consider the absolute worst and irredeemable in almost all counts isn’t even in the bottom three. (Had to pause video to comment.) Pit is easily the worst in my opinion. Slow slog of a first encounter, the ogre encounter is cool but can get annoying when the ogres refuse to move away from where you need to be. The totems is a chore, the navigation section after is annoying and the final boss is.. ok I guess. Then it doesn’t even have any good loot unless you count Xenophage. Easily the worst dungeon though I’d definitely have spire in second last place!
Top to bottom (Best to Worst), imo. Warlord's Ruin. Replayability is definitely there. Weapons could be better in some places, but the setpiece is perfect. Encounters are also all bosses, which is the first of it's kind. Prophecy. I feel the pacing is actually perfect. Encounters are straightforward, and transitions aren't inhumanly long. Recycled loot, but it fits the aesthetic of The Nine better than Trials of the Nine. Grasp of Avarice. Good extension of the game's history, boss encounters are fun. Shield is meh. Spire. Fast paced, first Wyvern boss, and it's encounter was fun to use a reactor overload to take down it's shield for DPS. Wasn't thrilled by loot or Consecrated Mind 2. Duality. Unique setpiece. Didn't like the bells. Loot is mostly outdated. Exotic is pretty meh. Ghosts. Long first encounter, long traversal, long final encounter. I don't like the idea of using an exotic slot all to bust their shields to get more DPS time. Only good loot is the armor, rocket, and exotic. Throne. Dreaming City reprisal is good. Bosses need some more health to be actual threats as the only real threat here is repeating the Ogre beam balances. Pit. Hasn't aged well. Best things about it are spiked stat armor, Xenophage, and the one boss in the dungeon at least dies as quickly as you can pass a fart.
With the way things have aged and how overdone some aspects of them have become, it's wild to me to not almost automatically have Shattered Throne and Pit of Heresy at the very bottom two spots. If one of the big components for the list is replayability, both come in at an F. Boring encounters, power crept to oblivion, very weak gear aesthetic and cookie cutter enemies turned into bosses. I appreciate what they did at the time, but dungeons by this point have so far surpassed those two that it's very evident even at just a glance.
I think Skarrow only rated Pit of Heresy so high because it has a lot of hive metal/electric guitars/rave themes. He's biased by his metalhead nature. It's definitely not that great of a dungeon lol (Spire and Prophecy are far better IMO). But hey, that's what tier lists are for. They showcase your biases, lol
Prophecy Dungeon number one you cannot sway me any other way but to say it's lost and the worst Dungeon you clearly haven't played the other Dungeons and especially not ghosts of the deep I would rather eat handfuls of salt and litres of lemon juice then play Ghost of the deep you can potentially say Warlords ruin is number one but for me it's prophecy all day every day it's the best and that will never change it's perfect or as close to perfect as you can make a dungeon
I can agree with basically everything from the list besides ghosts of the deep not being on last place. As a crackhead for speed, skips and clearing things fast this dungeon is so boring to do. If half of the water going down sections were removed it would still be too much.
literally pve wise grasp of avarice only good weapon is gally , ghost first encounter is overkill , 4 symbols is too much and going from first encounter to 1st boss is wayy too much
@@chargles301had a headstone rapid hit roll in my vault since the dungeon released 2 years ago, I whipped it out in maybe 10gm runs since while playing shadebinder. The stasis subclass just sucks, and if that’s the case headstone is fairly pointless, especially if the alternative is fatebringer.
Also yea all the weapons are mid in pve, but 3 out of 4 weapons shine in PvP. matador has been the best energy shotgun for over a year now, the sniper is great (on pair with beloved, just harder to get) & eyasluna was the meta once aswell (kinda fell off with the rangefinder nerf, still decent tho, just rose is better now)
Once we run out of raids to reprise I hope Bungie takes the route of reprising dungeons. Shattered throne is an excellent example, nearly every encounter could use a touch up and it has ZERO loot. Maybe to entice further players, a new exotic quest tied to the dungeon (Or an RNG drop for cases like Heresy and Shattered Throne that already have an exotic quest) as well as actual SPECIFIC loot for that dungeon. As it stands Pit of Heresy and Shattered Throne have no loot to actually grind for.
Here is my list (are purely based on the me mechanics, pacing, a little aesthetics & how much I enjoy them personally ): 1. warlords ruin (overall great, can’t complain about anything, puzzle is a little bit annoying if you are playing it with 3 and visuals at second are a little annoying with the snowstorm active, final boss is one of the coolest fights in the game, ogre is a little lame at dps) 2. duality (if the bugs were not a thing it would be #1, great dungeon very good paced, great traversing, and the best boss fight & dungeon mechanic we got, making u go into a different realm with a time limit to it, just makes it stand out from the rest, u need to move fast, kill fast) 3. ghosts (bosses have to much health, first encounter is a chore & traversing takes too long, ecthar might be one of my favorite encounters with warlords ruin final & caiatl & prophecy final) 4. prophecy (great dungeon, solid mechanic, traversing sections are great visually but a chore like u explained, also 2nd takes too long, just bad pacing honestly, 1st encounter is a good one and final one is great, moving while doing dps is always very cool and not as boring as sitting in a well and just shooting the boss, need more encounters like this in the game) 5.shattered throne (love everything about the dungeon, best traversing sections we have, unfortunately crazy power crept, the bosses are not bosses, needs an update regarding health bars & would love to see second encounter getting a rework, most lame boss fight there is, it was the first dungeon ever and it shows in the mechanics) 6. pit of heresy (first encounter is solid, but a worse version than shattered throne basically, very similar mechanics, go to a place kill a few enemies go to the next place, very annoying that u need to go & search sword bearers first before u can go to the rooms, takes so long to find them usually, in my opinion the dungeon has the most unfinished traversing together with prophecy and ghosts, 2 encounter is another plain and boring encounter, only decently okay if solo, final boss is very good honestly in comparison to the rest) 7.spire (the worst main mechanic honestly, just not fun at all, just feel like a chore in every encounter, Harpyie boss is straight stolen out of garden, final boss is decent, traversing is alright) 8. grasp of avarice (good traversing sections, especially the first one is one & the sparrow one are among my favorites, but the main mechanic is basically gambit and a worse version than prophecy, just kill stuff and deposit motes, both boss fights are plain and it’s just sitting in a well and shooting gun, after u deposit motes. The 2nd encounter might be the worst dungeon encounter ever with ghosts opening encounter)
imo they need to reprise the first 4 dungeons loot with either new weapons or at LEAST new origin traits, shattered throne could have taken DC weapons (give them unsated hunger and the dc origin trait ez) pit weapons could just be lucent brood themed just throw some hive vibes on green weapons like they did before and boom ez, give grasp an origin trait could be as simple as extra glimmer on kills or something but thats my only real plight with them, proph just needa origin traits as well. would give them way more replayability
My rankings 1. Warlord's Ruin 2. Duality 3. Ghosts of the Deep 4. Spire of the Watcher 5. Shattered Throne 6. Grasp of Avarice 7. Prophecy 8. Pit of Heresy
Duality (aesethics) and WR are my favorite dungeons. I love Spire as well, but I'm putting ST in 3rd because it's the only solo I have because I solo'd the Wishender quest during the crafening. I wish I liked Ghosts more, but the underwater traversal and the boss shields being part of DPS sucks if U don't have an Arby to 1-shot them. But dungeons have gotten better since they've become a big endgame focus.
My list: 1) Warlord’s Ruin: best experience, nice difficulty, three boss fights, just the loot is bit meh (apart from the two sidearms), great Solo Flawless experience. 2) Ghosts of the Deep: insane lore, very good boss fights, loot is meh apart from RL and Navigator, I still like the underwater sections despite them being a bit too long, bosses shields are stupid. Terrible Solo Flawless experience. 3) Duality: every step is very good, loot is good, too many bugs. Terrible Solo Flawless experience. 4) Prophecy: great setting, good fights, Rainbow Road is peak Destiny aesthetic, loot is decent but powercrept, it is just being overtaken by newer Dungeons. Nice Solo Flawless experience. 5) Spire of The Watcher: first encounter is a glorified platforming section, however it is soooo good having to scale the Spire up to the top. Good boss fights, especially last one. Loot is very bad, exotic is good but very niche. Bad Solo Flawless experience. 6) Pit of Heresy: good overall, Chamber of Suffering is a great encounter, loot is non-existent, aged poorly. Good Solo Flawless experience. 7) Shattered Throne: aged very poorly, I hate the screen being black due to Ascendant Plane, non-existent loot, Good Solo Flawless experience. 8) Grasp of Avarice: very fun running it the first time, second encounter kills the entire dungeon for me though, worst encounter ever. Boss fights are nothing memorable. PvP loot. Good Solo Flawless experience.
May I ask why your duality solo flaw experience was terrible? this was actually the solo flawless I enjoyed the most, bosses were not too chunky, there were little tweaks that got u to speed up 1st & 2nd encounter & caiatl was a fast paced intense fight, definitly one of the hardest in a solo flawless we had, but in a good way, no stupid health sponges, 3 phased her easily (only got to do dmg tin 2 out of those 3 phases).
@@Ysl489 the dungeon itself is perfect, even for the solo flawless experience. At launch though…architects and jet packs were next level of frustration.
Thanks for the great content - as always :) My personal ranking would've been: 1. Warlord's Ruin (best overall package) 2. Prophecy (I think the theme is brilliant and I love the colour scheme) 3. Spire (learning and perfecting the dot mechanic has me feeling like a speedrunner - though ofc I know there's more to that. but still ;D) 4. Ghosts of the Deep (this would be #2 if it had way less moths and slightly shorter travel sections) 5. Shattered Throne (the taken realm is cool, but even with brighter settings I have a hard time seeing some things in that dungeon - hate that. Most stuff about this dungeon is very cool, tho) 6. Duality (it's fun, wish it hadn't been as buggy when I still ran it) 7. Grasp (hate the little shank in the boss room and the shield phase, everything else is amazing. especially love the sparrow section) 8. Pit (this one is my fault - I cba to learn the paths for that section right before the boss. I hate it there)
My ranking: 1. Warlord's Ruin 2. Prophecy 3. Spire of the Watcher 4. Grasp 5. Pit 6. Duality 7. Ghosts 8. Shattered Throne For the people putting Ghosts of the Deep at 1 or 2, you're all on crack. The 1st encounter sucks, the transition to 2nd encounter sucks, and doing dps to final boss sucks
We put ghosts at 2 or 1 because we believe it has the best dungeon mechanics from my dungeon with little to no contest. Ecthar is great with ad density, complexity, and DPSing him is fun as hell (With 3 PPL) and the final boss has OUTSTANDING mechanics, better than even some raid encounters imo, and some of us DPS fanatics like inflated boss health, although I would say it's a bad thing.
I actually really enjoyed going through Ghosts Of The Deep so much that currently I'm in 76th place on the leaderboards with 83 full clears on dungeon report! I would say my list is 1. Warlord's Ruin 2. Ghost Of The Deep 3. Really like the Pit solo flawless emblem 4. Grasp of Avarice 5 Prophecy 6. Shattered Throne 7. Spire Of The Watcher 8. Duality, I absolutely hate this dungeon because I got to final boss at least 10 times while solo flawlessing and I kept getting screwed over every time. I have all the solo flawless emblems and all the solos were pretty fun except Duality
I did all of these dungeons solo flawless within 2 weeks of them releasing (except pit & shattered) actually enjoyed duality the most out of these solo flawless (prophecy & warlords ruin close 2nd & third) there were so many really cool mechanics that u could use speeding things up and mastering, caiatl solo was actually difficult and not a dps chore like ghosts, grasp & spire. Also duality has in my opinion the most fun main mechanic, especially compared to the grasp & spire. I think I 8-phased spire final boss. All of these 3 dungeons (spire, grasp & ghosts) took me 1.5hours. While the other took me an ~ 1 hour or less.
My rankings 1. Warlord's Ruin(the better Grasp) 2.Ghosts of the Deep(Chef's kiss with encounters) 3. Prophecy(will always be the best in visuals + final boss is goated) 4. Spire of the Watcher(wire mechanic felt fresh, loot is fantastic, final boss is fun) 5. Grasp of Avarice(one of the chillest dungeons i've played) 6. Pit of Heresy(underrated but severely lacking in loot) 7.Duality( kinda mid imo) 8. Shattered Throne(Hate this with a passion it drags so much, bosses are boring, plus when you die you respawn at the very VERY start I've never enjoyed it and it's a let down for me )
For me i prefer encounters that are a bit more mechanic intense. Having said that i do appreciate the lore and loot of some of these dungeons are lot. I struggled with Warlords and Duality for which one i would put second. 1. Ghosts of the Deep - Has everything i like, Aesthetically a very pretty dungeon, Mechanics are quite intense, especially in the final boss and the loot is good, plus the lore implications with Oryx are awesome. I know some people dont like the traversal underwater sections but personally i love these parts as i think it looks really cool, and its very immersive. But again, i understand those who dont like it. 2. Warlord Ruin - 10/10 for the environment and vibe, The "Stand next to totem" mechanic is a little simple, though the biting cold and playing hot potato with the corruption was fun and the prison was my Favorite part. 3. Duality - I quite like the switching to the nightmare realm mechanic, 2nd encounter i agree is the worst one, but Loot and Lore wise i think this is a great dungeon. 4. Grasp of Avarice - Just a solid dungeon overall, Great loot and some of the best music in the game. Though i do also agree that the fallen shield encounter feels like a bloated add clear section. 5. Pit of Heracy - A good dungeon let down by terrible loot and replayability, the broken blade bosses are cool though. 6. Spire of the watcher - Just pretty average imo, the whole "shoot node in order" thing got old real quick, final boss was a good challenge though due to its aggressive nature and health pool. 7. Shattered throne - Was tough when it first came out, but now after seeing all the other dungeons its a lil out-dated, loot-wise its not great. though the ogre boss is cool. 8. Prophecy - Cool looking dungeon but thats it for me, the light and dark gambit motes got really tedious for me personally, there would be numerous times where the wrong mote type spawned because it took a moment to register i was now in the dark, cool dps phase on the final boss though. This is the only dungeon i will straight up refuse to run just because its the only dungeon i genuinely dislike.
My list: 1. Duality 2. Warlord's Ruin 3. Pit of Heresy 4. Ghosts of the Deep 5. Grasp of Avarice 6. Shattered Throne 7. Spire of the Watcher 8. Prophecy
Honestly, I get people don't like prophecy (its my personal favorite) but pit is just so fucking boring, like, it has no orginal loot, nor being interesting which I can give to shattered throne atleast because it also has no specific loot but it's still fun and interesting, but pit is just ergh
You said you were going to make people mad and I was like, nahhh it’ll probably be fine and then you said prophecy as last. Now I’m in the process of hiring a hitman.
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@@Skarrow9Lmao, you pressed the “self-destruct” button, jk
I just wish it had an exotic to it
Ok, prophecy in last would have broken my heart back in season 11, but I genuinely think this was the best call now. As much as I love prophecy, it feels the most outdated out of any of the dungeons (even if shattered throne and pit are technically older).
Shattered throne is the best, because according to Hive lore every time we fight the boss we’re making love to her.
Prophecy is one of the only dungeons that actually feels like a real raid but for 3 people.
The light and dark mechanic is pretty dope, the atmosphere is really grand and interesting, and the final boss damage phase keeps you on your toes. It’s also paced really well and nothing is time gated. If you know the encounters, you can move quickly.
Pit of Heresy wins atmosphere for me. Super chill but almost too easy. Wish there was 1 more boss and it would be top tier
You forgot about enc 2, the light n dark mechanic while cool is pretty much game with extra steps which is nothing major just not as exciting, the finale bosses damage phase is pretty cool tho
I HATE GHOSTS OF THE DEEP
Prophecy last is insane
0:28 PROPHECY BABY BEST DUNGEON
Worst*
They should really add some replay-ability to some of the older dungeons. Maybe master mode and craftable weapons.
That would be so dope!
Would love to see sunset weapons that are matching the theme getting added to these dungeons (like they did with prophecy) . Atleast the current ones should get a perk refresh. Don’t think they should be craftable tho.
Gotta agree with you with warlord’s ruin at number one. The boss encounters and skybox are so good. They knocked it out of the park.
shattered throne is the only dungeon I beat solo and learning all the mechanics was fun
Shattered throne above Duality and Prophecy is crazy tho
My list:
War Lord's Ruin - the difficulty and skill needed were well balanced. Ads are a touch excessive at a few points but still manageable.
Grasp of Avarice- I just love the theme but that sniper shank in the boss room can go frick himself.
Shattered Throne - I really love the space and it is fun. Currently working on a solo clear.
Duality - this one took a while to grow on me but I enjoy it now.
Prophecy - love the tone shift and how different it is. I would love to get a solo clear but still trying to learn the best way to go about that because I just am not getting it.
Ghosts of the Deep- amazing look and honestly I like it quite a lot but the final boss kills it for me. No boss should have that much health and take that long to set up such short DPS phases on.
Spire of the Watcher - I hate this one. I am good enough I have taught it to new players and know how to get the collectables but I hate it. I only will touch it for good friends and want it over as soon as we load in.
Pit of Heresy- honestly not sure as I only have 1 clear from like 2 years ago.
I understand that the top 3-4 are going to be explicitly personal preference BUT... PROPHECY IN 8TH????? WTFFFFF
Warlords ruin could be the 100% best dungeon in the game if it hadn't such bad loot...jeez, the loot is just horrible.
I like GOTD better than warlords ruin.
Nooo man you put Prophecy dead last 😞
I LIKE THE DUNGEON haha
I've run Warlord countless times and I still think it's overrated af, weapons are mid and armor more so, music is just iron lord nostalgia, speaking of which you could replace the Scorn with Fallen Splicers and get a Wrath of the Machine poser. Also the title for it is even Wrathbearer, imagine if this is why they didn't give us WotM reprised, cuz they already did it with Warlords.
The mechanics are just boring and janky at times.
Sitting in totems is just boring & it’s rng if the dude wants to spawn 2 in or not. Then having to dunk balls on top of that on ogre is also just boring.
Then on final boss the buff transfer mechanic is just weird to do especially when 2 or 3 go to one person. Atleast the final boss is cool with having many smaller damage phases.
I currently have 122 clears of duality. ask me how many of those I enjoyed :) (yes obviously a good 60% were caiatl checkpoints). I also still, after over a year, dont have the roll of the SMG I want (Demo Repulsor)
9:10 people dislike pit of heresy, self included because its a knock off Crotas end, which is now in the game. The armor is the same armor from shadow keep campaign and the weapons are terrible. Easily worst dungeon imo.
How is it a knockoff of either Crota’s end? There isn’t a single mechanic that’s the same.
@@Skarrow9 the sword mechanic, the totems reused. The final boss literally looks like him. It takes place in a pit thats on the moon.
Grasp is last for me
Don’t roast me I just finished my flawless solo PIT and I’m really proud of myself 💀
that's great I can barely even solo the dungeon much less solo flawless honestly really impressive feat by you
@@wingedskull5666 I can give you some suggestions for the solo flawless, first encounter is super easy, just bring a high dps weapon for ogres, like a heavy machine gun, hammerhead is really good against them. Tunnels I’d just say play safe and pop a well or bubble if an ogre corners you in a hallway then dunk.
Third encounter is the hardest one imo, bring a well, DO NOT go for the knight in mid, it’s a death sentence bc totem will wipe before you finish killing him. Kill knights up too w hammerhead, alternate between the left and right knights and dunk the orbs they drop. Run sunshot for ad clear it’s amazing in that encounter. Pop well after every 2nd dunk, so pop well after you dunk 2 then 4 and then pop another if your overwhelmed by ads. Run the warlock chest piece that gives you super energy for kills in the well it’s amazing.
Finally play extremely safe in the wizard section, do not try to blow through the traps. Go slowly, find the three wizards and kill the w whatever.
Final encounter took me 4 phases to kill, so go for the shrieker boss first, kill it and the acolytes. If you kill all of them first it makes the boss encounter 10x easier. Kill the knight and wizard next but DO NOT dunk a ball on a totem the boss is text to, alternate the dunks where the boss is not standing by. Then when damage starts immediately pop well and start shooting w hammerhead on his head, do not use rockets bc you might blow yourself up.
That’s it! I hope this is a bit helpful :)
My list (worst to best):
Grasp of Avarice
Shattered Throne
Prophecy
Duality
Ghosts of the Deep
Pit of Heresy (It’s the only Dungeon I’ve Solo Flawlessed, so it holds a special place in my heart)
Spire of the Watcher (It was my first dungeon I played on release, so it also holds a special place in my heart)
Warlord’s Ruin
This is kinda crazy. I actually completely disagree with almost every ranking. Duality, Grasp, and Prophecy are my favorite raids, and the ones I always choose to Sherpa people through.
God I love everything about Grasp especially the music!! Buuuuuut why did they have to add that servitor encounter whyyyyy😢😭
Spire is the only dungeon I genuinely despise. I will not run that dungeon again.
I despise running that shit on Master for the catalyst. Absolutely dumb as fucking shit having to wait until it came up on rotation absolutely blows.
My ranking best to worst
Duality, prophecy, pit, throne, warlords & spire ( tie ), ghosts, ( worst one ever ) Grasp of avarice
In terms of difficulty, mechanics and overall enemy density, Ghosts of the Deep should be bottom 3. Not to mention how horrible that final boss fight is considering how often it teleports and can nuke you bc it either never misses or those moths are so overturned it’s absurd.
At least you got number 1 correct but shattered throne at 2 is just weird. Talk about a dungeon that has aged badly, doesn’t have any exclusive loot, both bosses being boring with one literally being completed in like 30 seconds with every gun you could use in the game. I’d rather do every other dungeon than shattered easily
Maybe because he likes shattered throne 😱😱😱
@@M4sn11 No shit sherlock, bloody einstein over here
All I know for sure is that Grasp of Avarice is absolute garbage
facts why do ppl like grasp so damn much. the mechanic is garbage and the encounters suck. the only redeeming quality is the sparrow section.
its literally gambit the dungeon, except now the motes are poisonous.
Bungie revisits content but they slow it all down like the Lake of Shadows. Damn I’m still salty about that strike
I’m a certified shattered throne hater. It’s just a running simulator, first encounter is running between different areas killing enemies, then there’s a marathon through several different areas including the slowed room to the ogre boss, who just falls over. Then it’s another albeit slightly less tedious run up lifts to the final encounter, where the boss dies in 30 seconds. Only one mechanic throughout which isn’t particularly engaging, plus you spend more time running than actually completing the encounters. Absolutely horrible for repeated runs for me. Not to mention how unnecessarily dark it is all the time.
Similar issue for me with ghosts of the deep. First encounter and the run to the second encounter take an obscenely long time which is awful for repeated runs, which ruin an otherwise decent dungeon imo
1. Duality (love it)
2.Pit (quick and repayable)
3.Warlords (really great, need to play more)
4.Prophecy (bosses are great, rest is a snooze)
5.Spire (bosses are fun)
6.Ghost (beautiful, but way to extra with boss health. First encounter is the worst thing in destiny. Traversing takes way too long)
7.Grasp (cool, but just alright)
8.Shattered (hate the first encounter, and way too much moving to next destination.
My List:
Shattered Throne - I do not like this dungeon at all. I don't generally like the Ascendant plane; it feels more like a long strike or an exotic mission. Going through the tower before Dul Incaru is cool, but basically speeding your way through doesn't really feel fulfilling or have much depth to it. Solo flawless is easy, it is just don't be dumb and don't try to go so fast you fall off.
Pit of Heresy - I've run this solo for the past 8 weeks (getting the ship), and once you know how to virtually 1 sword the first encounter, it goes a bit quicker. It isn't a bad dungeon, it is just outclassed by all the newer dungeons there are. The chasm is cool, but the other encounters get annoying, especially with how long they can take (if you don't kwtd or are not confident with solo activities). Alright solo flawless too, not too difficult
Grasp of Avarice - This dungeon is definitely made based on nostalgia. Much like TFS Collectors Edition, the nostalgia means nothing to me since I was not around to experience those things. The first boss is cool, the whole trap thing is done a lot better by Warlord's Ruin, and the shield part drags on forever, even in whole fire teams. The journey of the Fireteam was cool to listen to, and the solo flawless isn't that bad if you are good at solo things.
Prophecy - Cool aesthetics, and that is about it. This dungeon just feels, empty like there is nothing really there and that it's just killing the boss, and doing the puzzle without any depth. The Dead Sea (or as everyone says Rainbow Road) definitely carries it though, that is super cool. It also is a fun thing to run with friends (especially f2p ones), and is a good introduction to dungeons. Solo flawless is eh, not too bad but considering I did Duality as my first, it came out a bit easy.
Duality - The aesthetic is cool, the mechanics have depth to them and it is fun to run solo. Although this was my first solo flawless, I like the other dungeons more due to the journey and aesthetic you encounter. Going through Claus's mind is very cool, though there wasn't much evolution of the atmosphere in the sense of danger (think TFS where you start in this green lush Tower and make your way to the Witness in the twisted deserts.)
Warlord's Ruin - Very cool dungeon, the atmosphere is great, I love going from the first encounter to the mountain where we fight the last 2 bosses, and the prison puzzle feels really cool. The traps are done better than Grasp, as they don't feel overbearing but you also need to be alert when going through. Scaling the mountain to the final boss is also super cool, and the final boss was definitely a reflection on how I usually approach Solo Flawless dungeons (quick burst dps phases, instead of one long drawn out "do as much dps as you can" phase). Solo Flawless was not too hard for the first 2 bosses, but you have to adapt how you play (at least on Hunter) for the last boss. Fun dungeon, with good-looking armour (I don't really care about weapons, even if e.g the Sniper was good, who's gonna run it over Succession or Supremecy?). Also FIX THE EMBLEM PLEASE BUNGO.
Spire of the Watcher - I LOVE the atmosphere in this dungeon. From opening the bunker door to going through the Spire (and seeing the final boss in the first jumping puzzle), then ascending the Spire, going down it, and seeing the Chernoyble-like core, with the boss actually posing a threat. Solo flawless emblem looks really cool, and it isn't miserable to do. It just feels good to do, and when you know how to exactly do the nodes it just hits right (probably why Ron is my favorite raid, since it's all about speed and precision rather than mechanically miserable).
Ghosts of the Deep - This is my favourite dungeon. From starting out in the Archology, to making your way down it, seeing how it is abandoned and has succumbed to the seas of Titan, the then going inside the Hive ship, fighting the boss underwater and then above (I love how he looks when chasing you, like a true Trials of Osiris Titan), to then going through the back of the ship until we finally meet Oryx and the Lucent Hive. It feels like you actually need to use your brain during the fights, and that there is a very real threat of being punished for not being alert. Also the funnest Solo Flawless in the game, I've done every Dungeon, and this one definitely felt the most fulfilling to do, and actually gave a reasonable challenge that other dungeons simply cannot hit. Yes, it does drag on a bit (and is not solo-friendly at all), but all of those pale in comparison to what it shows and the journey we go on.
Warlords, duality, spire, prophecy, ghosts, shattered, pit and I hate grasp so much
This guy is the perfect example of why Destiny is dying. I bet he's one of those that wants now encounters and encounters that are different, however he's knocking every dungeon for the same issues. He wants all the dungeons to be fast paced, he doesn't want traversal sections and he doesn't like bosses with a lot of health. So what he wants is dungeons that you can fly through and kill the boss instantly. He's complaining about the water section in GOTD, he's complaining about any encounter that requires you to repeat the process and he's complaining about any slow sections. Different dungeons are supposed to have different encounters and different pacing. So if Bungie did dungeons the way this guy wants it, he'll be flying through the dungeons, complete it multiple times and then complain about no new content coming out. Just enjoy the dungeons how they are made and do the encounters at the pace it is set and you won't get bored of it. Bungie are in a no win position with people this guy.
@@HOQUUP God damn, that was a whole lot of generalizations you made there lmao
Mad respect for this list.
The way you feel about Shattered Throne is me with Pit 💯
1. Pit
2. Grasp (even like shield encounter but needs to be 3 not four for sure)
Warlord
Shattered
Prophesy (used to hate it but it's grown on me)
Ghosts (wholeheartedly agree that the encounters need to be 3 not 4 and spawn at the same time, plus you do the mechanics to start DPS and there's still an annoying shield you have to break for no reason).
Spire (Harpy is worst thing ever)
8. Duality (Team Hate It)
Duality - I’ve always found this one quite fun. Good cqc encounters with an amazing aesthetic and loot.
Warlords - Cool environments and bosses, but the loot is ass apart from the sidearm imo.
Ghosts of the deep - Near perfect dungeon in terms of environments, encounters and loot. 1st encounter sucks tho, but the traversal sections aren’t even that bad imo people just don’t like them because you can’t clear it in 5 secs with eager edge etc.
Prophecy - Coolest visuals for a dungeon and the Kell Echo is a great boss fight. Decent loot as well. Other two encounters are just kinda okay.
Pit of heresy - a decent speedrun dungeon with a interesting vibe. Nothing really noteworthy here but nothing bad either (apart from loot)
Grasp - Was fun at the time but there was only really two weapons worth getting and the encounters didn’t really stand out that much for me. Shield encounter may be the most tedious dungeon encounter
Shattered throne - the og vault of glass of dungeons. Cool for it’s time but rating this highly is because of nostalgia and nothing more. Only drops dreaming city loot and the fights are over before they can even get going.
Spire of the watcher - maybe not the objective worst, but I don’t like a single thing about this dungeon. Bad mechanic, annoying bosses and mid loot. Cowboy armour was cool I guess.
I need a tier list for every dungeon encounter
Prophecy is hella overrated
Cool list except that part where you were wrong
Lmao
You musta seen/that from Matics lol!!! His list had Gambit above Grasp … That opinion or even joke … Opened the can of worms for our “Dark Guardian” Brothers … the children, the know it alls, the haters, and the crazies out hahahhahaha !!!! But Honestly close too “ my list “ And Def FU to Spires Harpy Eyes Solo lol
It’s not so much that I’m mad at the order but more that the dungeon I consider the absolute worst and irredeemable in almost all counts isn’t even in the bottom three. (Had to pause video to comment.)
Pit is easily the worst in my opinion. Slow slog of a first encounter, the ogre encounter is cool but can get annoying when the ogres refuse to move away from where you need to be. The totems is a chore, the navigation section after is annoying and the final boss is.. ok I guess. Then it doesn’t even have any good loot unless you count Xenophage. Easily the worst dungeon though I’d definitely have spire in second last place!
Top to bottom (Best to Worst), imo.
Warlord's Ruin. Replayability is definitely there. Weapons could be better in some places, but the setpiece is perfect. Encounters are also all bosses, which is the first of it's kind.
Prophecy. I feel the pacing is actually perfect. Encounters are straightforward, and transitions aren't inhumanly long. Recycled loot, but it fits the aesthetic of The Nine better than Trials of the Nine.
Grasp of Avarice. Good extension of the game's history, boss encounters are fun. Shield is meh.
Spire. Fast paced, first Wyvern boss, and it's encounter was fun to use a reactor overload to take down it's shield for DPS. Wasn't thrilled by loot or Consecrated Mind 2.
Duality. Unique setpiece. Didn't like the bells. Loot is mostly outdated. Exotic is pretty meh.
Ghosts. Long first encounter, long traversal, long final encounter. I don't like the idea of using an exotic slot all to bust their shields to get more DPS time. Only good loot is the armor, rocket, and exotic.
Throne. Dreaming City reprisal is good. Bosses need some more health to be actual threats as the only real threat here is repeating the Ogre beam balances.
Pit. Hasn't aged well. Best things about it are spiked stat armor, Xenophage, and the one boss in the dungeon at least dies as quickly as you can pass a fart.
With the way things have aged and how overdone some aspects of them have become, it's wild to me to not almost automatically have Shattered Throne and Pit of Heresy at the very bottom two spots. If one of the big components for the list is replayability, both come in at an F. Boring encounters, power crept to oblivion, very weak gear aesthetic and cookie cutter enemies turned into bosses. I appreciate what they did at the time, but dungeons by this point have so far surpassed those two that it's very evident even at just a glance.
Personally my list is
1) Warlords Ruin
2) Spire of the Watcher
3) Duality
4) Grasp of Avarice
5) Prophecy
6) Ghosts of the Deep
7) Shattered Throne
I think Skarrow only rated Pit of Heresy so high because it has a lot of hive metal/electric guitars/rave themes. He's biased by his metalhead nature. It's definitely not that great of a dungeon lol (Spire and Prophecy are far better IMO). But hey, that's what tier lists are for. They showcase your biases, lol
Prophecy Dungeon number one you cannot sway me any other way but to say it's lost and the worst Dungeon you clearly haven't played the other Dungeons and especially not ghosts of the deep I would rather eat handfuls of salt and litres of lemon juice then play Ghost of the deep you can potentially say Warlords ruin is number one but for me it's prophecy all day every day it's the best and that will never change it's perfect or as close to perfect as you can make a dungeon
Loved the video but it would of been super nice if you could of included which key the dungeon is a part of/ if the dungeon is free to all players!
I can agree with basically everything from the list besides ghosts of the deep not being on last place. As a crackhead for speed, skips and clearing things fast this dungeon is so boring to do. If half of the water going down sections were removed it would still be too much.
Ghost of the Deep is the worst dungeon / content
My rankings
Warlords Ruin
Grasp of Avarice
Shattered Throne
Prophecy
Spire of the watcher
Pit of Heresy
Duality
Ghost of the deep
literally pve wise grasp of avarice only good weapon is gally , ghost first encounter is overkill , 4 symbols is too much and going from first encounter to 1st boss is wayy too much
Eyesluna with headstone is actually pretty good in pve
@@chargles301had a headstone rapid hit roll in my vault since the dungeon released 2 years ago, I whipped it out in maybe 10gm runs since while playing shadebinder. The stasis subclass just sucks, and if that’s the case headstone is fairly pointless, especially if the alternative is fatebringer.
Also yea all the weapons are mid in pve, but 3 out of 4 weapons shine in PvP. matador has been the best energy shotgun for over a year now, the sniper is great (on pair with beloved, just harder to get) & eyasluna was the meta once aswell (kinda fell off with the rangefinder nerf, still decent tho, just rose is better now)
Don't know had done some diffrent pics but i understand the most arguments. Prophecy is not that good as i thought first.
Once we run out of raids to reprise I hope Bungie takes the route of reprising dungeons. Shattered throne is an excellent example, nearly every encounter could use a touch up and it has ZERO loot. Maybe to entice further players, a new exotic quest tied to the dungeon (Or an RNG drop for cases like Heresy and Shattered Throne that already have an exotic quest) as well as actual SPECIFIC loot for that dungeon. As it stands Pit of Heresy and Shattered Throne have no loot to actually grind for.
Here is my list (are purely based on the me mechanics, pacing, a little aesthetics & how much I enjoy them personally ):
1. warlords ruin (overall great, can’t complain about anything, puzzle is a little bit annoying if you are playing it with 3 and visuals at second are a little annoying with the snowstorm active, final boss is one of the coolest fights in the game, ogre is a little lame at dps)
2. duality (if the bugs were not a thing it would be #1, great dungeon very good paced, great traversing, and the best boss fight & dungeon mechanic we got, making u go into a different realm with a time limit to it, just makes it stand out from the rest, u need to move fast, kill fast)
3. ghosts (bosses have to much health, first encounter is a chore & traversing takes too long, ecthar might be one of my favorite encounters with warlords ruin final & caiatl & prophecy final)
4. prophecy (great dungeon, solid mechanic, traversing sections are great visually but a chore like u explained, also 2nd takes too long, just bad pacing honestly, 1st encounter is a good one and final one is great, moving while doing dps is always very cool and not as boring as sitting in a well and just shooting the boss, need more encounters like this in the game)
5.shattered throne (love everything about the dungeon, best traversing sections we have, unfortunately crazy power crept, the bosses are not bosses, needs an update regarding health bars & would love to see second encounter getting a rework, most lame boss fight there is, it was the first dungeon ever and it shows in the mechanics)
6. pit of heresy (first encounter is solid, but a worse version than shattered throne basically, very similar mechanics, go to a place kill a few enemies go to the next place, very annoying that u need to go & search sword bearers first before u can go to the rooms, takes so long to find them usually, in my opinion the dungeon has the most unfinished traversing together with prophecy and ghosts, 2 encounter is another plain and boring encounter, only decently okay if solo, final boss is very good honestly in comparison to the rest)
7.spire (the worst main mechanic honestly, just not fun at all, just feel like a chore in every encounter, Harpyie boss is straight stolen out of garden, final boss is decent, traversing is alright)
8. grasp of avarice (good traversing sections, especially the first one is one & the sparrow one are among my favorites, but the main mechanic is basically gambit and a worse version than prophecy, just kill stuff and deposit motes, both boss fights are plain and it’s just sitting in a well and shooting gun, after u deposit motes. The 2nd encounter might be the worst dungeon encounter ever with ghosts opening encounter)
Best to worst- Warlords ruin, duality, grasp of avarice, pit, shattered, proph, spire, ghosts
imo they need to reprise the first 4 dungeons loot with either new weapons or at LEAST new origin traits, shattered throne could have taken DC weapons (give them unsated hunger and the dc origin trait ez) pit weapons could just be lucent brood themed just throw some hive vibes on green weapons like they did before and boom ez, give grasp an origin trait could be as simple as extra glimmer on kills or something but thats my only real plight with them, proph just needa origin traits as well. would give them way more replayability
My rankings
1. Warlord's Ruin
2. Duality
3. Ghosts of the Deep
4. Spire of the Watcher
5. Shattered Throne
6. Grasp of Avarice
7. Prophecy
8. Pit of Heresy
I know this video is 6 months old but what warlock build are you running?
Duality (aesethics) and WR are my favorite dungeons. I love Spire as well, but I'm putting ST in 3rd because it's the only solo I have because I solo'd the Wishender quest during the crafening. I wish I liked Ghosts more, but the underwater traversal and the boss shields being part of DPS sucks if U don't have an Arby to 1-shot them. But dungeons have gotten better since they've become a big endgame focus.
Does anyone know what exotic armour piece he's using in the gameplay?
The traversing between encounters need to be reigned in a tad, love spire except for the second boss and the dps mechanic
As a new player my first dungeon was prophecy and I never learned the motes gimmick untill the 3d half
Whered u get those display cases for the raid jacket's???
Love the hair man! And you're really upbeat!
I APPRECIATE THE PIT OF HERESY LOVE LETS GOOOOOO
Warlords Ruin was so fun to run on FF
You forgot Crota's End.
D2 mate, Croats is actually one of the harder trios.
@@Ysl489 It's a channel meme. We used to torment Skarrow saying they should bring back Crota as a dungeon. Don't mind me. c:
My list:
1) Warlord’s Ruin: best experience, nice difficulty, three boss fights, just the loot is bit meh (apart from the two sidearms), great Solo Flawless experience.
2) Ghosts of the Deep: insane lore, very good boss fights, loot is meh apart from RL and Navigator, I still like the underwater sections despite them being a bit too long, bosses shields are stupid. Terrible Solo Flawless experience.
3) Duality: every step is very good, loot is good, too many bugs. Terrible Solo Flawless experience.
4) Prophecy: great setting, good fights, Rainbow Road is peak Destiny aesthetic, loot is decent but powercrept, it is just being overtaken by newer Dungeons. Nice Solo Flawless experience.
5) Spire of The Watcher: first encounter is a glorified platforming section, however it is soooo good having to scale the Spire up to the top. Good boss fights, especially last one. Loot is very bad, exotic is good but very niche. Bad Solo Flawless experience.
6) Pit of Heresy: good overall, Chamber of Suffering is a great encounter, loot is non-existent, aged poorly. Good Solo Flawless experience.
7) Shattered Throne: aged very poorly, I hate the screen being black due to Ascendant Plane, non-existent loot, Good Solo Flawless experience.
8) Grasp of Avarice: very fun running it the first time, second encounter kills the entire dungeon for me though, worst encounter ever. Boss fights are nothing memorable. PvP loot. Good Solo Flawless experience.
May I ask why your duality solo flaw experience was terrible?
this was actually the solo flawless I enjoyed the most, bosses were not too chunky, there were little tweaks that got u to speed up 1st & 2nd encounter & caiatl was a fast paced intense fight, definitly one of the hardest in a solo flawless we had, but in a good way, no stupid health sponges, 3 phased her easily (only got to do dmg tin 2 out of those 3 phases).
@@Ysl489 the dungeon itself is perfect, even for the solo flawless experience. At launch though…architects and jet packs were next level of frustration.
Hey Skarrow, great video, would you ever consider ranking the solo flawless experience of each dungeon, would the list be the same or different?
Thinking about it they would be the same ranking as your just going through the dungeons again but doing everything yourself 😂
I actually think the list would be a bit different. There are certain solos I really don’t like. Ghosts would be a lot lower for sure.
Thanks for the great content - as always :)
My personal ranking would've been:
1. Warlord's Ruin (best overall package)
2. Prophecy (I think the theme is brilliant and I love the colour scheme)
3. Spire (learning and perfecting the dot mechanic has me feeling like a speedrunner - though ofc I know there's more to that. but still ;D)
4. Ghosts of the Deep (this would be #2 if it had way less moths and slightly shorter travel sections)
5. Shattered Throne (the taken realm is cool, but even with brighter settings I have a hard time seeing some things in that dungeon - hate that. Most stuff about this dungeon is very cool, tho)
6. Duality (it's fun, wish it hadn't been as buggy when I still ran it)
7. Grasp (hate the little shank in the boss room and the shield phase, everything else is amazing. especially love the sparrow section)
8. Pit (this one is my fault - I cba to learn the paths for that section right before the boss. I hate it there)
Plus Shattered Throne doesn't have rally banner checkpoints!
My ranking:
1. Warlord's Ruin
2. Prophecy
3. Spire of the Watcher
4. Grasp
5. Pit
6. Duality
7. Ghosts
8. Shattered Throne
For the people putting Ghosts of the Deep at 1 or 2, you're all on crack. The 1st encounter sucks, the transition to 2nd encounter sucks, and doing dps to final boss sucks
We put ghosts at 2 or 1 because we believe it has the best dungeon mechanics from my dungeon with little to no contest. Ecthar is great with ad density, complexity, and DPSing him is fun as hell (With 3 PPL) and the final boss has OUTSTANDING mechanics, better than even some raid encounters imo, and some of us DPS fanatics like inflated boss health, although I would say it's a bad thing.
I actually really enjoyed going through Ghosts Of The Deep so much that currently I'm in 76th place on the leaderboards with 83 full clears on dungeon report!
I would say my list is
1. Warlord's Ruin
2. Ghost Of The Deep
3. Really like the Pit solo flawless emblem
4. Grasp of Avarice
5 Prophecy
6. Shattered Throne
7. Spire Of The Watcher
8. Duality, I absolutely hate this dungeon because I got to final boss at least 10 times while solo flawlessing and I kept getting screwed over every time.
I have all the solo flawless emblems and all the solos were pretty fun except Duality
I did all of these dungeons solo flawless within 2 weeks of them releasing (except pit & shattered) actually enjoyed duality the most out of these solo flawless (prophecy & warlords ruin close 2nd & third) there were so many really cool mechanics that u could use speeding things up and mastering, caiatl solo was actually difficult and not a dps chore like ghosts, grasp & spire. Also duality has in my opinion the most fun main mechanic, especially compared to the grasp & spire. I think I 8-phased spire final boss. All of these 3 dungeons (spire, grasp & ghosts) took me 1.5hours. While the other took me an ~ 1 hour or less.
Duality at number 6 was kinda wack imo but you brought it back by giving Pit of Heresy a relatively good rating.
My rankings
1. Warlord's Ruin(the better Grasp)
2.Ghosts of the Deep(Chef's kiss with encounters)
3. Prophecy(will always be the best in visuals + final boss is goated)
4. Spire of the Watcher(wire mechanic felt fresh, loot is fantastic, final boss is fun)
5. Grasp of Avarice(one of the chillest dungeons i've played)
6. Pit of Heresy(underrated but severely lacking in loot)
7.Duality( kinda mid imo)
8. Shattered Throne(Hate this with a passion it drags so much, bosses are boring, plus when you die you respawn at the very VERY start I've never enjoyed it and it's a let down for me )
Honestly the only thing I would change about your list is flipping Pit and Ghosts and its perfect.
For me i prefer encounters that are a bit more mechanic intense. Having said that i do appreciate the lore and loot of some of these dungeons are lot. I struggled with Warlords and Duality for which one i would put second.
1. Ghosts of the Deep - Has everything i like, Aesthetically a very pretty dungeon, Mechanics are quite intense, especially in the final boss and the loot is good, plus the lore implications with Oryx are awesome. I know some people dont like the traversal underwater sections but personally i love these parts as i think it looks really cool, and its very immersive. But again, i understand those who dont like it.
2. Warlord Ruin - 10/10 for the environment and vibe, The "Stand next to totem" mechanic is a little simple, though the biting cold and playing hot potato with the corruption was fun and the prison was my Favorite part.
3. Duality - I quite like the switching to the nightmare realm mechanic, 2nd encounter i agree is the worst one, but Loot and Lore wise i think this is a great dungeon.
4. Grasp of Avarice - Just a solid dungeon overall, Great loot and some of the best music in the game. Though i do also agree that the fallen shield encounter feels like a bloated add clear section.
5. Pit of Heracy - A good dungeon let down by terrible loot and replayability, the broken blade bosses are cool though.
6. Spire of the watcher - Just pretty average imo, the whole "shoot node in order" thing got old real quick, final boss was a good challenge though due to its aggressive nature
and health pool.
7. Shattered throne - Was tough when it first came out, but now after seeing all the other dungeons its a lil out-dated, loot-wise its not great. though the ogre boss is cool.
8. Prophecy - Cool looking dungeon but thats it for me, the light and dark gambit motes got really tedious for me personally, there would be numerous times where the wrong mote type spawned because it took a moment to register i was now in the dark, cool dps phase on the final boss though. This is the only dungeon i will straight up refuse to run just because its the only dungeon i genuinely dislike.
My list:
1. Duality
2. Warlord's Ruin
3. Pit of Heresy
4. Ghosts of the Deep
5. Grasp of Avarice
6. Shattered Throne
7. Spire of the Watcher
8. Prophecy
pit is my favorite dungeon
Pit of heresy easily worst dungeon
Honestly, I get people don't like prophecy (its my personal favorite) but pit is just so fucking boring, like, it has no orginal loot, nor being interesting which I can give to shattered throne atleast because it also has no specific loot but it's still fun and interesting, but pit is just ergh
You forgot to mention another fact that makes Warlord’s Ruin so great, the first encounter and final boss take place in the same arena!
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