@@bababababababa6124 Share what, more exactly? Their own countries and people? They have common interests so they decided to form an alliance for closer mutual cooperation. Nothing more.
It’s like how so many Arab dictators supported the Baathist movement of creating an Arab superstate because they all assumed they would be the one to lead it. Somehow it didn’t work out.
@@serebii666 worst day of my life. But at least South Sudan, Burundi, DR Congo, Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda and Somalia plan to unite into the "East African Federation" (if they ever come around to do it), that'll be 8 countries turned into 1, making my geography so much easier
@@tempejkl Absolutely. The foreign influence _is_ that deep. ...and if there had been no foreign influence for 50 years, the outcome would be the same, as always. -strife, conflict, corruption & constant fracturing.
@@bababababababa6124 Ethiopia has been trying to regain sea access for years. Their efforts to do so has led to them recognizing Somaliland and signing a treaty to develop and share a port and trade corridor, threatening to drag them into a Somalia-Somalialand conflict.
Russia is the only one offering protection from ISIS. Not out of kindness but mutual benefit. Russia does not have the capability to take total control so there’s little risk
@CarmelaMisha Colonilism is when a country is (near) completely controlled by a different country. Three economically crippled countries under total economic, military, and foreign policy control by Russia is indeed colonialism.
@@maarten1115 Colonialism is control and exploitation of people and/or resources by a foreign group/motherland country (for example, India and Britain in the 1800s). Russia does not control there economies, military, nor foreign policy, Russia and Burkina Faso, Niger, and Mali are literally just getting closer ties.
Every time African nations try to form mega country’s it always fails. Mali tried it with Senegal & Ethiopia tried it with Eritrea they always revert back to their post independence borders.
The East African Federation (EAC for now) seems to be making steady progress toward unification. They're going about it right, very slowly and deliberately.
Russia tried it with Belarus and it semi-failed. They were working toward merging into a single nation, but then Putin came to power and he didn’t want to share power with Minsk, so he put a stop to it. That said, Belarus at this point is just a Russian colony.
I think they should for a UNION but be a federalized state Meaning 3 Countries do their own domestic affairs and they operate as normal, but when it comes to foreign affairs they all come together maybe some sort of parlimentary and have routating leaders to decide what to do.
@@andrewklang809 If it had been Australian, they would have used English spelling. Which would be Waggadogo. Still, yeah, looks Australian. Probably all the sand.
I have a bigger question tho? Are they still using the franc as there currency (meaning there still being influenced by France) or there doing a new one?
@@noticedruid4985Yeah that's kind of how a anti-colonial revolution works, not maintaining power would bring back western and french puppets that'll sell out the country's resources under the guise if democracy.
Interesting. If they can pull it off, I wish them well. It won't be easy. Change can sometimes be good if, in this case, it benefits the people and government.
Pray tell, what continent is Moscow located in? This has fuckall to do with foreign influence or what is best for these three countries as a whole, it’s just internal politics. By allying with Russia and Wagner the military juntas can get military help if their own people rebel against them, the price Russia asks for that alliance is renouncing the West.
@@gamlaman This isn’t all just due to Russians trying to mind-control Africans. Many African nations have become increasingly put off by the west because - to be frank - Western nations still belittle, disrespect and trivialize their existence. They also have a habit of pushing for exploitative deals, policies, and leadership within the continent that primarily benefits them. Russia on the other hand, while yeah they’re probably going to exploit these developing economies to some capacity - at this point, Russia just may seem like “the lesser of two evils” for some nations. Russia never colonized any African nation, they have yet to try forcing any African nation to align with their political ideals at the risk of losing aid money, etc. Africa sees Russia very differently than Western Nations do. The truth is that Western Nations have failed to maintain their image as reliable partners & allies for African development, to the point that some of those nations would just…prefer to work with Russians. Or at least that’s how I understand their relationship.
@@gamlaman The military co-operation with Russia is for getting rid of the terrorists that the French and Americans couldn't get rid of despite putting military bases there for decades.
they've been cooperating very closely in almost all regards, actually. why are people who know nothing about africa so confident on opening their mouths about things they know nothing about?
Betting on Russia at this point is just *insanely* stupid, no matter what grievances these countries may have with their former colonizers… The Russian Federation is *not* the USSR, and these countries are effectively independent, so… why pick the worst, most untrustworthy state around as an ally?
Have you tried to google "pronounce junta"? Has it ever occurred to you that words that originate from one language, could be pronounced differently by another language?
@@Tjalve70 But somehow, Americans are able to pronounce it correctly. Also I've seen some of this channel's other videos, and they regularly butcher demonyms and country names.
@@everyonesfavoritesejong “Having problems” is part of advancing as a planet…do you think that every nation gets to where it is without some kind of conflict? Peace is a privilege. Nations rise and fall. That’s just how life works. Just because Africa is struggling now doesn’t mean it will in the future, and just because certain nations are privileged enough to not face similar problems as Africa doesn’t mean they won’t in the future. 3 of West Africa’s greatest Kingdoms were erected close to or very near the same sahel regions that the AES occupies. There’s 0 reason to think that it couldn’t happen again.
considering france's ongoing modern colonial empire, I'm not surprised these areas are still uprising and trying to get away from their french overlords that they would do anything including siding with russia
All three states became military dictatorships because the civilian governments, even with French military aid, failed to control jihadism. I have no doubt that the French forces were actually more effective in protecting French interests than in protecting the populations in these countries. They're probably not trying to get closer to Russia _per se_, but to get the help of Wagner, who will do what they get paid to do. Of course Russia will leverage the deployment of Wagner to gain geopolitical points. None of these three countries have significantly large populations or economies, so their unity or disunity is unlikely to have any global geopolitical impact. What is certain, however, is that any instability in these countries causes increased human suffering.
This isn't necessarily a materially sound analysis, but I would beg to differ solely based on the extreme reaction shown by the West towards the Nigerien and Burkinabe coups. It was met with immediate denunciation, sanction, and threats of military force. Compare that to the reaction to the military coup in Gabon. It was a completely milquetoast, nonchalant reaction, as compared to that which they had Niger. Which leads me to believe that the putschists in Gabon are actually pro-US (which I think is slightly evidenced by the fact that Oligui has economic and real estate investments in the US, including real estate in the DC metro area), while the coups in Burkina and Niger are actually threatening to US geopolitical interests. You have to read inbetween the lines here
@@LoudWaffle I mean if you asked Mali, 🇳🇪 and Burkina Faso, they rather have anyone but the French, and I don't blame them, they did terrible things in Africa
@@supaman6713 Who says I'm not, France did terrible things in Africa, and believe me that's an understatement, what sad is the French take pride in the things they did and consider them " civilizing acts"
they’re so bad at it. Why do they even use the word anyway? Do they not realise English has words for it too? If you’re going to use loan words, at least pronounce them correctly
Just because the word originated from Spanish, doesn't mean it is a Spanish word when used in English. His pronunciation is actually correct IN ENGLISH.
Nigerian🇳🇬 here.
They can't form a new country as none of them would be willing to forego national sovereignty for the sake of a greater union...
Exactly, and people in power in each country would not want to give up their grip on power and share
@@bababababababa6124 Share what, more exactly? Their own countries and people? They have common interests so they decided to form an alliance for closer mutual cooperation. Nothing more.
@@Hardcore_RemixerDisrupting 150 Billion in trade might be the answer to your question.
@@billvandorn5332don’t take the numbers from this channel seriously, they are funded by the west
How is Nigeria responding
Because it's likely that they see it as a threat yes?
The A-S-S. How creative 😂😂😂
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@@justcallmetapplealliance of sahel state
So a.s.s
Oh XD
Wow I didn't even notice at first until your comment! 😂
@@blikizz9355 lol
Three dictators that all want to lead the new union themselves... That will work well
@understandingcpanylaw hehe😅 but France has been their dictator for hundreds of years and they just looted resources for free.
Everywhere is a dictatorship or an oligarchy, nonce.
This has already happened before with the United Arab Republic (1958-61).
It’s like how so many Arab dictators supported the Baathist movement of creating an Arab superstate because they all assumed they would be the one to lead it. Somehow it didn’t work out.
Kicking out imperial powers sound more like liberators rather than dictators imo
I support any unifications in Africa, the reason is because the less countries in Africa makes learning Africa geography easier for me
Amen brother
You must have been very sad when South Sudan seceded
@@serebii666 worst day of my life.
But at least South Sudan, Burundi, DR Congo, Kenya, Rwanda, Tanzania, Uganda and Somalia plan to unite into the "East African Federation" (if they ever come around to do it), that'll be 8 countries turned into 1, making my geography so much easier
@Helghan5 Don't forget Somalia's imminent collapse tho. That's at least 3 new countries right there
@@serebii666 why must I suffer
ASS: our military farts may be silent, but they’re still deadly
Awesome! Just look how great of an job they are doing staying intact in their current forms!
It's fine if paradox taught me anything then will get national buffs
Isn't it so interesting how when the French left the "terrorists" started losing to these countries' militaries
Ah, yes. Three Saharan African states joining together in unity.
I can't think of anything that would disrupt that harmonious process...
The west will try to disrupt it
Nothing actually, because these nations are already split into many ethnic groups, unity will make no difference.
Their own tin pot dictators
I can’t tell if you’re referring to the United States, NATO, France, or ISIS. The foreign influence is THAT deep.
@@tempejkl Absolutely. The foreign influence _is_ that deep.
...and if there had been no foreign influence for 50 years, the outcome would be the same, as always.
-strife, conflict, corruption & constant fracturing.
Three huge countries in Africa unite! Surely they’ll have a coastline right?
Right?
Called themselves Sahel states for a reason I guess, lol
sahel means coast in Arabic and it was called sahel by arabs@@sccello
*_Loud Incorrect buzzer_*
@@magical_blue Coast of the “sea” that is the Sahara is what they meant iirc
A nation that large is certainly going to need access to the sea.
True but to be fair Kazakhstan and Ethiopia exist
@@bababababababa6124 Ethiopia has been trying to regain sea access for years. Their efforts to do so has led to them recognizing Somaliland and signing a treaty to develop and share a port and trade corridor, threatening to drag them into a Somalia-Somalialand conflict.
Guinea will join
@@andrewklang809 They broke that deal with Somaliland, I believe.
like what? kazakstan?
Seeing those countries getting rid of the Franceafrique system, only to join a Russiafrica system is quite ironic...
Yep, as if they feel the need to be colonized.
Russia is the only one offering protection from ISIS. Not out of kindness but mutual benefit. Russia does not have the capability to take total control so there’s little risk
@@KarlDeux “Colonialism is when closer ties to Russia”
@CarmelaMisha Colonilism is when a country is (near) completely controlled by a different country. Three economically crippled countries under total economic, military, and foreign policy control by Russia is indeed colonialism.
@@maarten1115 Colonialism is control and exploitation of people and/or resources by a foreign group/motherland country (for example, India and Britain in the 1800s). Russia does not control there economies, military, nor foreign policy, Russia and Burkina Faso, Niger, and Mali are literally just getting closer ties.
ah yes, let's unite three landlocked countries
Every time African nations try to form mega country’s it always fails. Mali tried it with Senegal & Ethiopia tried it with Eritrea they always revert back to their post independence borders.
The East African Federation (EAC for now) seems to be making steady progress toward unification. They're going about it right, very slowly and deliberately.
@@sccello In the end at best it'll resemble some looser and less integrated EU. Not some centralized mega state.
Russia tried it with Belarus and it semi-failed. They were working toward merging into a single nation, but then Putin came to power and he didn’t want to share power with Minsk, so he put a stop to it. That said, Belarus at this point is just a Russian colony.
Tanzania?
Somalia and Somaliland tried it and it was a success.
It’s the same as the United Arab Republic all the leaders wanted it but they wanted to be the ruler of it so it didn’t happen.
It's less problematic when you don't have kings.
@@jonathan2847because autocracies are known for their benevolent and humble leadership.
So they called themselves “A.S.S”
In French it's AES
"Comment on what's next" Corruption, lots and lots of corruption!
No
Dictatorships don't give up power.
Charles de Gaule : *allow me to introduce myself*
Thank you for your valuable and knowledgeable insight into African politics.
1st thing on agenda: fall apart
Good job❤
"Burkina Faso?! Disputed Zone?! Who called all these weird places?!" Always got a kick out of that Simpsons reference! Haha!
How interesting
I think they should for a UNION but be a federalized state Meaning 3 Countries do their own domestic affairs and they operate as normal, but when it comes to foreign affairs they all come together maybe some sort of parlimentary and have routating leaders to decide what to do.
This can’t end well
Introducing the *Union Poutiniste des Républiques-Colonies Russo-Sahéliennes*
Really interesting
Next they start bickering over whose is bigger. 🙄
The 1st ever 4th World Country
Ten Dollars says the strongest Junta wipes out the other two.
How the three military dictators will share power
read the title of the literal video bros in comments are illiterate 💀💀💀
Hopefully not, it was challenging to learn the capitals of Mali and Burkina Faso
Ouagadougou is such a fun city to say, I can't believe it's not Australian.
@@andrewklang809 If it had been Australian, they would have used English spelling. Which would be Waggadogo.
Still, yeah, looks Australian. Probably all the sand.
They have a combined gdp of 55 billion at most, how would it disrupt 150 billion in trade?
uranium export
Whoa i have exactly the same cardigan as him. Quite cool.
Yeah ask Egypt, Syria and Iraq how that worked out 😂
You think egypt syria and iraq are similar to the aes
I mean, we are speaking of West Africa here, I don’t know if countries dividing or uniting would cause more problems lol
Oh boy. Chad and Mauritania wouldn't like this ONE BIT!
I mean Chad already has a good relation with Russia, all Putin need to do is buying off the dictator and convince him to join ASS
Actually, Chad recently asked to join the Alliance and Mauritania is one of two countries that has offered to give the AES access to the sea.
I have a bigger question tho? Are they still using the franc as there currency (meaning there still being influenced by France) or there doing a new one?
A new one, a reason why they kick the French diplomats out is because they view using the franc as monetary colonization
@@catsyrup5455 nah their actual reason is to solidify their legitimacy and maintain their own power.
@@noticedruid4985Yeah that's kind of how a anti-colonial revolution works, not maintaining power would bring back western and french puppets that'll sell out the country's resources under the guise if democracy.
"After they succumbed to coups"
Some say this, others say "after they got rid of oppressors".
Interesting. If they can pull it off, I wish them well. It won't be easy. Change can sometimes be good if, in this case, it benefits the people and government.
That’s not going to end well
“And would leave millions of workers in limbo” 🔑🔑🔑🔑🔑🔑
"You saved us from France! Thank you Russia, we're free!"
"Oh I wouldn't say 'free' ... more like 'under new management'"
I’m sure all the juntas will get along well…
Everything is going to be fine its Africa, what could good wrong 😅😅
They just did
Become a super power is next❤
But who will be in charge?
Putin, of course.
How dare they want less European influence
Pray tell, what continent is Moscow located in?
This has fuckall to do with foreign influence or what is best for these three countries as a whole, it’s just internal politics. By allying with Russia and Wagner the military juntas can get military help if their own people rebel against them, the price Russia asks for that alliance is renouncing the West.
@@gamlaman This isn’t all just due to Russians trying to mind-control Africans. Many African nations have become increasingly put off by the west because - to be frank - Western nations still belittle, disrespect and trivialize their existence. They also have a habit of pushing for exploitative deals, policies, and leadership within the continent that primarily benefits them.
Russia on the other hand, while yeah they’re probably going to exploit these developing economies to some capacity - at this point, Russia just may seem like “the lesser of two evils” for some nations.
Russia never colonized any African nation, they have yet to try forcing any African nation to align with their political ideals at the risk of losing aid money, etc. Africa sees Russia very differently than Western Nations do.
The truth is that Western Nations have failed to maintain their image as reliable partners & allies for African development, to the point that some of those nations would just…prefer to work with Russians. Or at least that’s how I understand their relationship.
@@gamlaman The military co-operation with Russia is for getting rid of the terrorists that the French and Americans couldn't get rid of despite putting military bases there for decades.
@@gamlamanrebel?, they are being attacked by Islamic extremist, the people have already say they support it
The struggles will continue for a while, but I'm glad they're at least finally able to break free from France's neocolonialism
What will happen ? These are former France colonies we are talking about, what do you think will happen?
ANS: MORE COUPS
As with tradition
They want to be closer to Russia.
Well, this can only end well.
Afroghanistan. Good luck guys!
Misinformation. The AES is making history.
A bloodbath, if care is not taken.
Let's hope greed and tribalism don't take over the new leaders.
problem is that they are simply not willing to cooperate don't get me wrong im all for unions that work i just don't see this working
they've been cooperating very closely in almost all regards, actually. why are people who know nothing about africa so confident on opening their mouths about things they know nothing about?
The only word that really matters here in Russia.
Absolutely cursed
No coastline though
They’re kicking out the US and others now too
The ‘hai never die
Na they are landlocked
Betting on Russia at this point is just *insanely* stupid, no matter what grievances these countries may have with their former colonizers… The Russian Federation is *not* the USSR, and these countries are effectively independent, so… why pick the worst, most untrustworthy state around as an ally?
better then staying with the fucking French
Poverty, war and death. It’s common when nations ”de-colonize”. ^_^
It's precisely a product of the legacy of colonialism you. These counreies still are exploited by western economic imperialism.
That's not how you say "junta"
Have you tried to google "pronounce junta"?
Has it ever occurred to you that words that originate from one language, could be pronounced differently by another language?
@@Tjalve70 But somehow, Americans are able to pronounce it correctly. Also I've seen some of this channel's other videos, and they regularly butcher demonyms and country names.
Its possible
We could say, they made an ASS of themselves...
Ok point to the exit, I-I'll be leavin
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
was funny the first time got overused
Trust of european and US waneing
Alliance of sahel states or the ASS
Alliance of Sahel States=ASS?
Is this guy CIA?
No, they won't
Hopefully they unite...we need less division in the world.
Forced unionism will just lead to even more division when the pendulum swings back. It needs to come naturally or not at all.
@@Hardcore_Remixerhow is it forced
@@Hardcore_Remixer Most of these borders are already arbitrary anyways, what are you talking about??
Just like I thought that comments would be, lol. Hi haters
Imagine if you will, an Islamic country that isn't politically unstable.
You mean like the Songhai Empire that was in the exact same region as this AES Alliance from the 14th to the 15th century?
@@starsnoireart You mean the thing that doesn't exist anymore?
@@everyonesfavoritesejong nevertheless a perfectly good indication that a muslim state can be just as stable as any other. Your comment is just silly.
@@starsnoireart From the medieval ages? We've advanced as a planet and yet they're having problems now?
@@everyonesfavoritesejong “Having problems” is part of advancing as a planet…do you think that every nation gets to where it is without some kind of conflict?
Peace is a privilege. Nations rise and fall. That’s just how life works. Just because Africa is struggling now doesn’t mean it will in the future, and just because certain nations are privileged enough to not face similar problems as Africa doesn’t mean they won’t in the future.
3 of West Africa’s greatest Kingdoms were erected close to or very near the same sahel regions that the AES occupies. There’s 0 reason to think that it couldn’t happen again.
I give it 10 minutes
Never happen to much ego
No!
Russia loses the war in Ukraine.
The West: "Look who came crawling back."
Burkina Faso aside, Niger and Mali has legitimate reasons for the coup
How dare they demand Europe stop exploiting them
They're fighting against colonialism, and keeping French claws out of their lands' resources. In this house, those three are heroes
considering france's ongoing modern colonial empire, I'm not surprised these areas are still uprising and trying to get away from their french overlords that they would do anything including siding with russia
The french empire is falling at last
The paramount objective is to be free of French neo-colonialism.
Nah that was never their goal, the dictators wanted power. blaming France was just their excuse to them overthrowing their elected governments.
Oh they think Russia will save them.
First it was the East African Federation
Now we have the Alliance of Sahel States
What’s next? Southern African Union
(I made that one up)
French empire collapsing but i don't they will agree to form a single country
Atrocious editing. No pauses. Horrible.
All three states became military dictatorships because the civilian governments, even with French military aid, failed to control jihadism.
I have no doubt that the French forces were actually more effective in protecting French interests than in protecting the populations in these countries. They're probably not trying to get closer to Russia _per se_, but to get the help of Wagner, who will do what they get paid to do. Of course Russia will leverage the deployment of Wagner to gain geopolitical points.
None of these three countries have significantly large populations or economies, so their unity or disunity is unlikely to have any global geopolitical impact. What is certain, however, is that any instability in these countries causes increased human suffering.
This isn't necessarily a materially sound analysis, but I would beg to differ solely based on the extreme reaction shown by the West towards the Nigerien and Burkinabe coups. It was met with immediate denunciation, sanction, and threats of military force.
Compare that to the reaction to the military coup in Gabon. It was a completely milquetoast, nonchalant reaction, as compared to that which they had Niger. Which leads me to believe that the putschists in Gabon are actually pro-US (which I think is slightly evidenced by the fact that Oligui has economic and real estate investments in the US, including real estate in the DC metro area), while the coups in Burkina and Niger are actually threatening to US geopolitical interests. You have to read inbetween the lines here
@@doridore1234 It threatens western imperialism.
ecowas is just (like always) another western lead colonialist movement.
Thank goodness they can replace it with eastern colonialism instead
@@LoudWaffle I mean if you asked Mali, 🇳🇪 and Burkina Faso, they rather have anyone but the French, and I don't blame them, they did terrible things in Africa
Explain how ecowas is western-led. I am not sarcastic, I would like to hear your perspective
@@Pinkhairedkillamore like feel sorry for them for putting their next generations in endless poverty and turmoil
@@supaman6713 Who says I'm not, France did terrible things in Africa, and believe me that's an understatement, what sad is the French take pride in the things they did and consider them " civilizing acts"
STOP SAYING JOOONTA! IT'S "HOONTA". Mispronouncing Spanish words on purpose is racist!!
calm down
they’re so bad at it. Why do they even use the word anyway? Do they not realise English has words for it too? If you’re going to use loan words, at least pronounce them correctly
Just because the word originated from Spanish, doesn't mean it is a Spanish word when used in English.
His pronunciation is actually correct IN ENGLISH.
@@Tjalve70 just wait to you hear how brits say "jalapeno"