How To Create A Buck Herd On Your Land
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- If you want to see more bucks on your land, then you need to learn to become a deer manager instead of a habitat manager. While there are 10s of thousands of us who call ourselves deer managers for small parcels, there are very few who actually are. After all, if you do not have the oldest bucks in the neighborhood on your land during the daylight in the Fall, you don't have anything to actually manage. That's why if you follow this advice about the basics of deer management, you can become one of the few herd influencers in the neighborhood.
How can you make sure that you build the best daylight herd in the neighborhood? Check out my latest web class:
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After you become the neighborhood influencer,, make sure that you are following my weather forecast deer hunting predictions when you finally head to the woods. Check out HuntCast, at:
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Jeff, I think the best point you make in this video is “best potential “ for your particular area and parcel. My West Virginia mountain property is not going to produce 160 + class bucks on a consistent basis. Too much hunting pressure in the area to create that opportunity. However, I do know the potential is there to produce and hold mature bucks that can reach 140 class on a yearly basis. I think a lot of land owners fall into the unrealistic expectations of what they can actually produce, and I think a lot of that is because of the “deer hunting shows” where the hosts constantly shoot 180-200 class bucks. That’s why I appreciate your channel here. You keep it real and actually teach us how to improve our land and hunts. Your the only “deer hunting show” host I listen to and watch. Good luck this season Jeff. West Virginia bow starts a week from today…best time of the year!!
So true RS, this is definitely all relative. Crazy how in some locations it is easier to shoot a 200" than a 140. I appreciate your comments...thank YOU!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Very eye opening. I have about 60 acres in Western NC. I am not either of these things....yet. I have family that hunt all around me and most of them are "meat hunters". Meaning they shoot any and everything. One has a 22 mag named bow. Yep...for bow season. The struggle is real!
You can preach this every day and most guys will not understand or actually do it.
I have been managing deer for 35 years.
It takes the right land, knowledge, work, and patience.
You have to know what your not, to know what you can become, wow great quote for everyday life
Amen to that! Proly a copy of something somewhere but it applies so much to "deer managers"
This is one of the best videos you put out there. Thank you for all of your content Jeff!
Thanks a lot Vince, I hope you are a true herd influencer, this Fall 👍
Literally just looked up your older videos on small parcel hunting earlier this morning. Closing on 20 acres in October that our family will be building on. Thanks as always :)
Thank you for all the work you put into these videos and books. Since following your techniques I have taken 3 bucks and one doe off of 6 acres in 2 years. Thank you for helping with my success. -Trevor
That's awesome Trevor I love to hear that!! Congrats 😊
167,000 people just stopped what they were doing.All production came to a stop..Thanks again Jeff.
Ha, so true...best time to watch videos I think are at the work place 🤣 Hope you have a great weekend D!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Good luck hunting.Season is still a few weeks away here.
Sir i just wanna thank you for your time in making these videos. You've prepared me for my first deer season better then i could've asked elsewhere,I shattered 7 vertabreys in 2015 so I'm very limited to allot but with your teachings you've made it easier for me and the guys helping me in the field now they sub to your channel also. We're Hunting on there 67 acre plot in galia ohio. We've got plans to change everything next yr do to everything you've taught all of us. I Didn't get my hoyt this yr but i will next yr,I bought a killer instinct ripper 425 crossbow for now. Enough rambling,thank you keepem coming your vids are goin fill camp this yr. Thank you
I just want to thank you. This is my first year hunting as I'm disabled and recently moved to a place where I can hunt on my own property so I don't need to drive out and hike in. You have taught me a lot and I really appreciate it. Im only hunting rifle this year but I have a crossbow for next season. Thanks again.
Man Josh, I'm just happy you are out there! Thank you, and good luck!! BTW, bet you will love the Crossbow when you get a chance to hunt with it 😊
I’ll take you hunting josh!
@@jakejoydrywall7637 I appreciate the offer. I decided to get my archery tag anyway. The season started yesterday so my neighbor helped me sight the crossbow in and tomorrow im going to sit in my woods and wait. There are 7 or 8 does I see regularly so they are out here.
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I got my first deer. A doe at 35 yards with my crossbow. I can't thank you enough.
NH bow season opened on sept 15 and I have seen more deer in three sits than I typically would in a month of hunts in prior years in public land after applying these principles for less than a year on a new property. Love it!
Jeff's "Church of the painful truth" - 😂 love it and laying it out - Thanks for putting it out there without the false sappy sugarcoating so many others are pushing on this medium.
I own 50 acres of mixed agricultural land in Southern Ontario that I've been working on for past 20 years...
Know when I learned I was a deer influencer?
When all the locals started surrounding my land, telling me my property is where all the deer are, especially the big bucks.
Then.... I had to become adapt at not spooking those deer off my property during hunting season and into the arms of mobs of waiting hunters.
I find your videos spot on and enjoy watching them.
Keep up the great work!
Man that is awesome Rob...a true sign for sure!! Great job and thank you 👍
Last year I moved from SW Ok to East Tenn and bought 10.5 acres of wooded land to live on. Not my ideal number, but I'm doing my best on what I've been blessed to buy. I recognize that there is ALOT of pressure from neighboring hunters/poachers. Yes, I here the random single rifle shots during movement hours and know. Season or not... I'm using what I'm learning from you to manage and improve my small parcel. Thank you for taking the time to share.
Working to get there. On 24 acres on my Land. Just starting this year. Learning a lot this season. Land runs East to West and got a lake and 2 ponds on property. So next season I will do my food plot. Thanks again
Jeff is a deer hunting parcel genius
We have been following Jeff’s plan for 5 years on 50 acres in LP of Michigan. I am surrounded by hunters. But It is truly amazing how much different our season is compared to the people around us. Every year when movement shuts down due to pressure we collect the mature bucks and they keep moving in daylight.
Same...Southern Ontario.
Man...I love hearing that guys!! Enjoy the build up to the season 😊
Morning Jeff! I love this topic. It's what I strive for on the land I hunt. Thanks for another great video
That's awesome Josh!! I trust that you are an actual deer manager and I always appreciate your comments 😊
🙋♂️I love being the herd influencer with my 40! Pisses the neighbors off that own the 80, 120, 240, 400, and 600 acres because they don't have the right ingredients to do it....I'd be in trouble if they found your channel 🤣
Haha, the good thing it's a hard pill to swallow that they don't need those many acres to have great herds...in fact no matter what the size parcel those neighbors likely won't be. Money can't buy herd influence, that's for certain!
Love to hear it tho...congrats!
Your quality information is as good as it gets! Thanks again for posting .
Thank you Cris, I really appreciate it!! I hope you are having a great weekend over your way 😊
For the past few years on the 40 acres i hunt we have had some incredible bucks. Over the years with the limited time I have, I've added water sources, food plots, mineral, etc. The thing I face though is a lack of daytime photos of mature bucks. I get some here and there. Hoping to get some mock scrapes put in next year. Maybe even have you come and help me develop a plan. It gets overwhelming without a structured plan. Thankyou for all your videos, they have become part of my daily routine.
Very well said!!! So fun to see things take shape!! Good luck hunting!!
It sure is Brian...love to see you actually managing deer 😊
I would love to see a video on a step by step to do list for a all hard woods partial that you just bought. Thanks for all of the great videos, God bless
I've 5 acres right behind my house. Excellent doe bedding. Nice bucks stop by during the rut or hunting pressure sends them my way. All surrounding land, (100s of acres) get hunted. Hopefully this year is my turn to have a nice one stop by.
Gets you really thinking about what you’re doing with your parcel!
Just got done over seeding winter rye, My plots look amazing ! Thanks Jeff
Love to hear that Shawn...really happy for you!
HuntWise says Tuesday is my first must sit day of the year! Love that app and love seeing the results. They’re the kinda days that just feel ripe for deer activity. Like picking fruit that’s perfect for the table. So excited to get started!
It looks incredible Kurt, we have a video coming out about it on Tuesday morning...incredible opportunity!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Fantastic! I’m wondering on strategy for this early morning peak !? I am only guessing the evening would be established evening food routines? Can’t wait to see your input!!
Great video Jeff, I couldn’t agree with you more!
Thanks Jeremy...lots of zoo keepers out there with no animals 😊
Y'all are lucky. Up here in New Brunswick, there is no deer season during the rut. Peak breeding is December 10 which makes the two weeks before this period prime hunting. Our deer season ends Nov. 21-22 most years. To make matters worse, the hunt is mostly a buck hunt so ending the season before the rut excludes access to many mature bucks.
Great information Jeff 👍
Thank you very much!
I live in the U.P. do I need to say more? And getting neighbors to practice management, (regardless of the food plots) is like squeezing water from a rock.
I love and appreciate all of your videos, very informative. Thank you
Great video Jeff!
Thank you very much Isaac! Have a great weekend 👍
Not much I can do since I don’t own the little piece I have, but I did manage to get some ROD in, looking forward to seeing how this year changes things! Public land would be great if it wasn’t all ag and river
call em out jeff you're 100 percent right on this one!
Thanks Rob!
Thanks!!!
Damn.. Great video Jeff.
Thanks Miguel!
These videos have helped me so much on my 13 acres until I suddenly started losing all my deer activity. Found out the neighbor kid was poaching on my land after I told him no nicely multiple times. Warden got involved. My herd still hasn't came back unfortunately☹
One more week then hunting season starts
Nice Austin...enjoy it 😊 Today for us...will likely go out tonight
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I am so excited for next Saturday!!
Where you from that’s when my season starts
You were absolutely correct. 1 buck picture in August now in September over 20 different bucks hitting those same licking branches in September during the day and night. When should I see more of a shift to day movement vs more of the evening movement?
Hi Jerry, I begin seeing that now thru the next month...basically a build up! Awesome to hear tho...
Next friday in ms
What is a average age deer for around holly, lapear michigain, also one thing that is awesome is we have extended season in Oakland county you can hunt archery all January
Hey Jeff, I’m in north central Oklahoma I hunt on about 120 acres with woods down the middle and spring fed creek. I have 1000’s of acres of ag around me and in the fields I hunt. How would you suggest holding bucks on this parcel with basically food plots all around? I typically see bucks cruising this draw during the rut chasing the does that stay here but never have those older bucks staying.
Up north in Canada. Got access to a 32 acre wooded land stuck in between 2 farms with a river running down the middle. Outside hunting season I got there about twice a year. I see does and faun but almost never see buck older than 2yo on my trail cams. And I find lots of trails but for the heck of me can’t find a rub line. Tried to make a few scrapes following your videos for location but so far still nothing. Any more suggestions to get those mature bucks to show themselves?
“New hunter here” If I have a consist 7-8 does coming to my corn pile day in and day out, is it bad to go ahead and shoot a doe now? Will that ruin my stand for that area? I’m only hunting on a 5 acre thick wooded area. I believe the does are bedding within a 100 yards from my stand/corn.
I've left my back 4 acres of my property wild not clearing it out , just leaving it woods and brush
I'm from far up northeast Ohio and have under 5 acres...I have had big deer then summers nothing but skinny look like death deer. What can I do with so little. Would seriously love to talk to you one on one sometime. If you don't do that I understand though. Have a good one, keep up the great videos.
Looking at purchasing "How to Design Your Deer Hunting Parcel" for my Dad for Christmas. They just purchased 27 acres and building a house on the front 2 acres in central Indiana (surrounded by large ag fields and their property is immature hardwood and natural habitat clearly already bedding/browsing). He's already got tons of trail cam pics and wants to use your principles. Would this class be effective for him on this small parcel, as it is about 23 acres worth of huntable property?
How many times did I white board fall before you drilled some screws in there?
I have doe factories to the North and West of my property. To the South and East I have slaughter houses. Last yr I Saw more spike bucks then does that live on my property. I don't know what my next step is for improvement.
One week in Ohio can't wait
Hey Jeff I got 20 Acers to work with in northern Indiana all woods it only has one small bedding area were talking about 20ft wide and 50ft long in one corner of the woods what can I do with it 🤔
I just saw a large, aggressively freshened scrape by my tree stand 20yrds away.
1. I know they will use scrapes year round but why so big and deep hoof marks so early? I haven’t seen this before.
2. Also, is 20yrds to close? I noticed they have made a cow path right at the base of my stand. Should I move?
Next time you make it down to Southern ohio / vinton county/ heart of deer country. would love to buy u lunch and talk about deer hunting and management!! I may even let u hunt my property in exchange for some land management advice 😁
My new property hasn't had any pressure in yrs. Yet still seems deer only feed and move from approx 630PM throughout night and approx 530 to 630AM nad occasionally at 1030 ish AM. With that being said how would I assist in having them move during day more?
What’s the best furage to plant on my 18 acre parcel, it’s mainly all woods tho…
I hunt in Florida and if you don't want to spent much time in the woods and kill the biggest buck in the neighborhood use Jeff's techniques. In Florida you'll have to adjust a few things, like planting date and variety, because of the heat and humidity down here. If you want to help your neighbors kill the biggest bucks around your property, do the exact opposite of Jeff's techniques.
Sorry to break it to you but Jeff is already married. TO A WOMAN!
Yup
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Hey Jeff what would you do if you had 30 acres in the city and all the neighbors shoot the deer from their yards then they run on my land and they just expect I will let them retrieve their deer every time. It pushes all deer out of the woods for days. The dnr says they can hunt in their yard and I don't have to let them on my land but I don't want a bunch of dead deer all over my land.
To be truthful my food plots here in Tennessee aren't really attractive to deer until the native vegetation has died and turned brown. Thats when the deer really hit my plots. The nice green food plots look so inviting up against the brown vegetation and naked trees. The trees drop their leave late and the grass and fields stay green up into late October early November. Friend of mine in Michigan tells me the white oaks are dropping acorns in West Branch but ours are still holding pretty tight in central Tennessee. The persimmons trees are the hot food source at the moment. I guess what im trying to say is that I don't depend on my food plots until the end of October early November. For the first month of bow season I hunt native vegetation because of the fact we dont have any agg fields close by. Mostly CRP and cattle pasture.
They hammer the greens up here when the acorns are dropping...they really need that moisture. I have clients right now in TN enjoying the deer pounding green based food plots. Much, much more digestible and higher volume than native vegitation this time of year...really depends on what you plant tho!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 Oh yeah I remember the days up north. I was born and raised in Genesee Michigan. Cut my teeth deer hunting with an old Darton recurve and then went to a bear whitetail hunter (Had 6 wheels on it lol).. Moved to Tennessee in my 40s. Im 62 now and still hunting hard. Persimmons on the back of my property has takin the place of the crabapples that was on the back part of my parents place in Michigan. Just so many things different down here then they were up north. Mainly the timing. Spring is a month earlier and fall is a month later it seems like. I admit the deer are in the alfalfa and hay fields here. (We dont have Corn or Bean fields in my area) They just dont seem to hit my food plots until the last part of October and POW they hit it heavy.
Deer season in Tennessee starts next weekend
Good luck down there in TN!
Did I miss something or did this video never actually define the difference between a habitat manager and a deer manager? So I guess I understood that you can be a perfect habitat manager, meaning you have a perfect property, but not be a deer manager. So what actually separates the 2? Over pressuring deer and hunting?
Good question What’s the difference...?
Lost on me too
80 to 90% of all the pictures I get on my property is during daylight in the mornings and evenings. That being said I only have a few pictures of bucks in the summer and come September the younger bucks start showing up more regularly. The older bucks seem to not show up till around mid October till the end of November. Im not sure why the pictures of the older buck slow down unless it's because there getting killed. I inky have about 20 acres but am surrounded by hundreds of acres if woods and farm fields. I do get pictures of the older bucks after that in December but inly now and then and even after season ends. So my question is if you have any idea if that is nirmal. Oh by the way this is the 2nd year I have planted food pilots and after I planted last year I was diagnosed with Colin cancer and had to have surgery and could not hunt. After I was gave the all clear I went and checked my cameras to find mature bucks running around on my food plots all day long. Im hoping that they will repeat this again this year being I am able to hunt and have added another 1 acre food plot right in the middle of there bedding area. Any suggestions or ideas would be muchly appreciated. Im 63 and don't have to many years to waist doing the wrong things. Thanks for any suggestions.
Hope my wife doesn't have anything important to say today,
Cause all your info will have my mind full of good stuff to think about!
She says I don't listen to her and something else?
Haha, awesome Tim 😁 Food luck with that, ha
The biggest issue with my grandfather’s 260 acres is that it borders a South Louisiana Bayou. That’s the South border, The North Border is an insterstate, so deer are forced to pass through this property. It’s a blessing and a curse because deer have to stay within the edge of the bayou, but also the poachers come down that bayou in boats. We’ve found others’ cameras and a neighbor finds jerryrigged stands on his property every year. Not to mention South Louisianians just shoot anything that walks out, and then assume deer don’t get big out here. I have pictures to prove them wrong.
Been mowing my switch, can I spray simazine in the early spring, I GOT WEEDS!!
You sure can...priority to spring green up at 3 quarts per acre
What’s the best thing the plant to hold deer in the fall, I’m in southern Minnesota
Hi Sam...depends on so many variables!!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 I’m trying to get an idea on what to plant for next season, we have 60 acres with a small river running through the middle and some prairie grasses where it use to be an old cow pasture.
I’m in northern MI. I’m a popular novelist and radio host. I’d trade marketing for your business for someone to come evaluate my prop. I think I’ve done well. But my 20 acres is perfect based on the prop around me. Cedar swamp behind me. Select cut on both sides. Huge alfalfa field across the road.
Sounds really nice Gunner! I charge 2600 per day and had to turn down over 2000 clients this year...that's a lot of books and web classes we would have to sell 😊 Really appreciate it!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 hey man. Funny you replied. True story, I have a RUclips channel and a mainstream radio show. I’m kind of globally famous for my novels, which are being called “the next godfather.” My content is mafia related because, well, I spent 13 years in prison for being a mafia enforcer in Detroit, for my blood family (Mother was Grace Tocco). People get mad at me all the time for steering away from the mafia content. BUT, I tell them YOUR channel is the ONLY channel I ever watch on YT. True story. They don’t believe it. They think I’m all into the mafia channels and I’m not. I can care less. I’m all about deer management and trophy brook trout fishing. I’m actually heading off into the UP wilderness right now. All alone for three days. About 20 miles from Seeny. You know the river system. I’m after a 19” brookie. By the way, I’ll be having a new TV show coming out on Huge new streaming network. I can’t even say the network’s name because they haven’t had their official announcement in Hollywood. My show is called “OFF THE CUFFS,” and it chronicles me chasing my prison bucket list, which includes harvesting a mature buck. I’ve never done it. Came close when in the Ozarks for a year. Had a 190” typical 10 point come in. Close to a record buck. Perfect symmetry. A deer behind me winded me and blow it. I was at 18 yards with a bow. ON YHE GROUND! No blind!!! Up here you’ll never see a buck like that because of all the local window snipers. They rarely get past 2.5 here.
Anyway, I’d love to feature you in my show, and maybe you can get some great PR that bumps your prices? I’m sure you could evaluate my property in a couple hours. Only 20 acres but it’s setup perfect. Needs your touch though. I’m still a rookie brother. I’ve made so many mistakes, according to you. But I learn fast. I’d love to have a call. Send me an email and I’ll send you the sizzle for my TV show. Maybe we can find a way to work together. You are def my fave RUclips show. Shoot, you are MY ONLY RUclips show🤣. God bless. Below is my website and email. I’d love to talk.
Www.Gunnerdetroit.Com
Gunnerdetroit@gmail.com
I only have a 20 acer piece and only 13 of it is woods, because of the size will I ever be more than just a habitat manager or is that not possible because of property size?
You can be a herd influencer on any size parcel, it's more about creating the best daylight deer parcel that you can 😊 Good luck!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 thanks! Had the woods logged out, so it's much thicker, have a couple mock scrapes, and 1/2 acer corn, 1/4 brassica, and 1/4 rye. We will see how it goes, only one big buck on cam so far
Doe management of herd management is the one that confuses me. Same doe every year, 2 buck fawn. Like clockwork. Only 2 adult does and 2 yearlings every single year. Me or neighbor have decided not to shoot does over the last 3 years. Definitely not seeing growth of does. Is this old mamma doe running off all other does and small bucks in the summer? When to kill and how many does is plentiful?
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Thank you Robert!
What is your knowledge about white or red oak .I'm looking for white oak on a new public land area.a ton of red oak but very few whites .I see red oak every where with lots of nuts , but. On whites There are none., or very few. Will deer eat the reds
If you consider 20,30,40, acre parcel's "micro parcel's", what would my 5 acre parcel be? A "atom" sized parcel? Lol
A building lot? Ha 😁
I've shot my biggest deer on a friend's 4 acre "building lot". Location is very important in this case . It borders a row crop field on one side and woods on the other and the road at the bottom so they are forced to cross his property from food to bedding
I’m not sure this gentleman understands when a deer reaches its maximum potential. I assure you that a 6/7 yr old buck is not what he was at 4/5 years old. Unless there are extenuating circumstances at hand.
Missed 2 deer in the past week because I shot through too much brush 😞
Oh dang...it happens...better than wounding!
Damn deer manager habitat manager deer manager habitat manager deer manager habitat manager herd influencer
Habitat manager deer manager
Last year I seen a 240 + inch deer and we did no habitat improvement
You can always get lucky once 😊
Bumping deer from 1000 acres!!!
Can you kill big bucks on 5. Acre
Sure, depending on the location and the skill level of the hunter
EHD has hit northern NY and they are finding dead deer by the hundreds
Oh dang...hopefully you get some of that rain coming up your way!!
@@whitetailhabitatsolutions9751 July was dry but we have been getting decent rain since mid august, I’m just hoping the state makes the proper adjustments and shut down the does permits for the affected areas
I've lived the poor deer strategy program.
20 acres and up of private land is not a micro plot lol , not to me anyway
Dude buck Thorne is bad???? Shit