Line 6 Helix Acoustic Sim - use Acoustic IRs for UNBELIEVABLE results!
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- For my Presets visit: johnnathancord... So here's me discovering what Acoustic IRs can do when used alongside the new Acoustic Sim. It was a recent discovery to me that recording direct with an acoustic didn't get anywhere close to using a real condenser microphone up close, but a lot of us have to go direct when playing an acoustic live.
In this video I try some acoustic IRs, show you how to load Impulse Responses into your Helix or HX stomp, and happen across an acoustic tone that I think sounds better than the direct recording of the acoustic with the sim off....Madness.
Firmware 3.0 brought with it an Acoustic Sim - based on the Boss AC2 apparently, but with the added shimmer control which sort of adds in some harmonics and movement. In this video I recorded a demo with the Boss Ac2 and I'll show you the settings I'm using and some other tips that I think might be worth thinking about when looking at using the Acoustic sim.
Oh also worth bearing in mind that the release notes recommend SINGLE COILS for use with the Acoustic Sim.
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This is revolutionary. I've been using IRs to make my acoustic sound like slightly different acoustics through the IR, and it works wonders for that.
One thing I've had great success with is getting a guitar IR that's exactly shaped like my guitar -- a Taylor 814ce to go with my 314ce, for instance -- and recording my guitar pickup through Channel A, at the same time as I plug a condenser mic into helix Channel B, then play with the two tracks together in my DAW. That sounds better than just recording through either one alone. But I can't believe how perfectly you've got it working with a Strat. That's absolute sorcery.
Just got the time to watch this. I've been using 3 sigma IRs with great results. I even blended in a cello IR to get some "wood" on a jazz preset. It's harder to get classical but I've gotten close. I usually AB with a recording to tweak. Using an actual classical player and classical piece will surprise you how easy it is too fool your ear thinking you've got it then... you listen to the real one ........... You're right the less effects the more real it sounds. And it beats the heck out of piezo quack.
It’s surprisingly good. Obviously not flawless, but if you were in a pitch it’s pretty dang good. Nice job of showing the various combos between fx and IRs.
I have been using your podgo presets but just got helix native so just sent my payment! Can’t wait for all the helix presets 😍😍 love your content. Thanks for all you do 🤘🤘
When you started play at 5:18 I was convinced you were lying and actually recorded with an acoustic guitar, hidden because of the camera cropping. What an amazing sound that is!
Really true acoustic tone - awesome and great playing. I need to buy a Stomp
Steel strings will sound like steel strings through an IR, nylon strings will sound like nylon strings through an IR, you get the picture. I get great results using acoustic IRs, but I use Classical impulses on my nylon strings, and Dreanoughts and the like impulses on metalstring acoustics ;-)
Haha, man, sounds awesome! And you know what? I tried the same thing on my HX Stomp just yesterday to a great result. Thanks for sharing!
Darn! I have to keep looking at your mug, to check what guitars you are playing. These are extremely good! Thanks.
These videos are how I like my women. A brief moment of joy amidst all my suffering.
I prefer mine like my coffee. Thick, black and strong.
@@jimmcdougall9973 is that thick like thicc or thick like duh me like ovaries or whatever women like
Dude your channel is amazing...Thanks for all the useful info .Cheers from Greece.
That sounds very very realistic to me, especially at 15:59 : impressive !
It sounds crazy good! I wonder how it sounds with a piezo pick up.
You see that in the intro with the acoustic (acoustic sim is off)
@@johnnathancordy I assumed it was miked this, IRs need to be compulsory to at open mic nights
Fantastic Sound. Just pulled your presets. Where/what IRs did you use if you don't mind me asking
Wow! Impressive. I’m trying that.
At 15:03: "... Obviously the Helix version. Whooo, that's a lot nicer!" Understatement of the month. Exactly which Helix device were you using? It sounded great.
Hi. I purchased your patchs a few weeks. I'm really happy with. Do i have to buy it again if i want to benefit from this patch with the IR's? Thanks
No need to buy again - just go back to the email and follow the same link!
@@johnnathancordy Thank you
I bought some acoustic guitar ir presets through Glenn Dulane, I didn't think of using them with the acoustic sim in Helix 3.0. Sounds good!
This mate, rip Glenn’s ones to pieces, he uses stacking IR’s which is unusual and the results are there, but then throw in expression pedals on the parameters of the Acoustic sim, whilst playing you can wind them in different directions and this bumps a level of dynamics to the playing which is unreal. Small touches to panning in a delay are pretty amazing
*Delaune. He's my friend's uncle so Im nitpicking
Hello from Italy ! Good sound. I don’t understand well what bundle contain all acoustic preset . Is possibile to know what presets there are in each bundle bifore buy? Thanks for your work. Bye.
Thanks John. The difference between the helix and stomp versions is really night and day in your video. I watched the video few times, while I realize that helix has more processing power and more blocks support, I still don't understand how parallel paths (or the helix specific paths) can create such a difference (perhaps I missed some details) . Could you help me understand? In my particular case, I have a semi-hollow piezo (and humbuckers) so I don't really need the acousticsim, just the IR and stereo/delay/reverb/imager stuff that made it sound so good. Thanks again.
I tried my Holy Grail acoustic IR with the sim last night and the sound cut out. 🤷 if you do make a stomp version, I’ll be interested in seeing it. I haven’t checked the folder in a while!
The Stomp version is up already - but I can't include the IRs!
@@johnnathancordy No problem, I’ve got a stellar one already. Thanks for uploading!
I would also like to know the exact file names of the Noodler IR files. I emailed Noodler and I get no response.
I am trying to get the exact IRs from Noodler. Can you or anyone tell me the IR exact file names as none seem to match exactly with what was said on this video.
can you make an acoustic simulator with HX Stomp?
please do a few acoustic sim presets John
Is this Sim available for the HX Effects? I'm beginning to think that it's being left behind
May I ask what the differences are between your 2 preset bundles? Is it just the freeze ...?
Yes one is a bundle specifically with the freeze presets as they took me a while to figure out!
Oi, mate, try the $1 Mesa 212 sample IR pack from York Audio. Totally worth it!
Is this patch in your "normal" patches bundle? Thinking about buying the bundle. Love your stuff!
Yep!
Jon, Thanks paid for files. is the link to google unique to me or how does it work. downloaded files. saved link.
I'm having trouble finding these Collings IR's. Little Help?
Hey Tim, could you shoot me an email?
Hello Johnnatan, I'm playing with a HX FX in 4CM on a PRS MT-15 head and a 4X12 Mesa Rectifier cab. Do you think adding an Acoustic IR to my preset with Acoustic Sim will improve the tone?
I think probably the best results for acoustic would involve bypassing the amp altogether?
@@johnnathancordy Yep, of course I understand and I am aware of that. I already create a preset with the Ac Sim on the clean channel of the MT-15 and I think it's cool. I understand that this won't be the best way to get a nice Acoustic sound. But using an IR while playing on a real cab is a bit of a nonsense......that's the meaning of my question, will it be a plus or not?
@@oliviertroupin4512 sorry I can't predict those results....I guess it can't hurt to try?!
@@johnnathancordy Any advice for cool Acoustic IR's, by the way your videos are always amazing big thanks for that
@@oliviertroupin4512 if you have an frfr you can send a separate output to that for acoustic. If you have a piezo enabled electric with a separate output like a JP style guitar that would give you the option to use acoustic irs
Hi can I ask if this patch is in your folder of patches?
It's really very impressive, is the way that i'm being dreaming since too much time ago how to switch from a furious guitar to a big & warm acosutic on stage without guitars changing. The only problem is that i really need a dumbs-proof step by step guide and i can't find it anywhere. i'm absolutely alone in a world of pure wisdom hahahahaa :(
Were these IRs intended to be used with piezo pickups?
Sounds great!
But what is the point for using 1th IR for the left channel and 1st and 2nd in series for right?
Why didn't use 1st for left and 2nd for right?
Huh?
The IRs are on the left and right, the Acoustic Sim is in the middle
@@johnnathancordy You split signal after the first IR, so bottom line processes by IR twice.
@@PavelDashkov oh yeh - just seen the split is in the wrong spot!! I can't use Hx edit lol
So much better with IRs..!! 🥰😇
Looking at the dual IR paths, you seem to go via the first Ir, THEN split the signal, sending the second of the two via another IR, instead of splitting before the first IR. Is this accidental or on purpose? Sounds nice in any case. Just doesn't make sense!
Accidental and fixed at a later stage I think haha!
I just downloaded the patches from your Google drive and yep I can see they're fixed. Cheers!
How to buy that acoustic preset....
Daaaaang that’s so good !
Whoa! That sounds so real that it looks fake on the video. Unreal. I am definitely getting some of these IRs!
hey John, can you include links to the IRs you have used? great tones!
Wwww.noodlerguitars.info are what my googling lead me to find the source of these!
@@johnnathancordy Dead link :-(
@@bluesky2145 just remove a w lol
It just seems to me that it just scoops most mid frequency content out and thins everything out. It sounds fine by itself, (especially with Johnathon playing), but throw it into a gigging context or just playing with other musicians, and it just seems to completely disappear ....
I think this is pretty indicative of how direct acoustic guitars kinda tend to sound anyway?
hey where can I get your Ir for the acoustic?
This isn't my IR it's noodlerguitars.info after doing some googling!
I want to purchase the Acoustic Sim patch from the video that yo created. Which link is it?
It's in the NORMAL bundle, but the IRs in the preset are actually from noodlerguitars.info/
@@johnnathancordy I have 3sigma Taylor IRS I can use. I’m assuming that will work??
@@averageguitarist918 should do yep!
@@johnnathancordy awesome! Just bought the pack!
@@johnnathancordy what’s the name of the patch you’re using?
Wizard!
Nichoas Cage dialed in at nine and a half 🤣
Those IR are in the Gdrive ?
They're not my IRs so unfortunately not!
This available in your patches
Hey Chris yeh it is I think it's called JCACOUSTICIR - it'll be in the Helix folder of the 3.0 folder
@@johnnathancordy cheers big ears 👂
What is the expression bundle?
Oops...I meant expression patches. Sorry, I am new to this...
That's my freeze presets!
@@johnnathancordy does the freeze presets work on the hx stomp?
@@roxynox they were designed for stomp initially yes
Just thought I'd add the first comment because I can.
That's excellent work Bryan!
@@johnnathancordy You sir, are the one doing the excellent work. Your tones are awesome.
Why do we have to pay? Sharing is beauty
Lol you have a fractal so you have thousands of irs. I know format or whatever. You can just shoot an ir through it easily if you want a particular one for Helix or any other unit
Do they have any acoustic ones?
@@johnnathancordy a quick search in axe exange turned this up, I have paid ones so haven't tried these but they are there.
axechange.fractalaudio.com/search-results-cabs.php?search=Acoustic&fields=all&products=0&setups=0
Just sound like a fake acoustic even with the acoustique Guitar who sound like plastic on the attack . Nothing close from a mic in front of an acoustic real guitar.
Well obviously, but a piezo sounds worse...