NEW Zwift HUB One: Bye Bye Cassette 👋

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @tacomandood7371
    @tacomandood7371 Год назад +4

    Very cool to see. My wife and I have been using the same Zwift Hub for both of our bikes, but my bike is an 11-speed, hers a 10, and we bought the hub with the 10-speed cassette about a month ago.
    I haven't wanted to adjust my derailleur every time I throw mine on or worry about changing a cassette, so I usually just deal with the overall poor shifting. This seems like a good solution for both of us, and especially if you can buy the upgrade kit for only an additional $60. I guess at least we'll have an spare 10-speed cassette around if we ever need it haha.

  • @GoustiFruit
    @GoustiFruit Год назад +3

    Finally, a good move from Zwift !
    At least, I hope that the competition will produce something similar.

  • @manilamartin1001
    @manilamartin1001 Год назад +2

    pretty cool. Gonna stick to my kicker core for now but definitely looks like an upgrade.

  • @HabaneroTi
    @HabaneroTi 10 месяцев назад

    Has Zwift actually opened up the Bluetooth protocol that the Click and Play controllers use to tell Zwift to shift up and down (and in the case of the Play tell it to do other things like steer and brake or Power Up), so that third parties can make and sell their own controllers or add virtual shifting (and these other virtual features) to their virtual cycling platforms? And if so is on a licensing basis or open source? If it's open source then I could probably build such a controller in an afternoon from parts that I already have.
    Of course other platforms could just as easily add virtual shifting (steering, braking, etc.) to their apps, but it makes sense to settle on a single protocol standard so people won't have to buy multiple sets of controllers for each platform they use, and since Zwift is the first to do this it makes sense that its protocol is the one adopted, for now at least. Firmware can always be updated later on but it's probably better to start out with a common standard than have competing ones that just confuse people and keep them from adopting these technologies for fear of being left stranded with the wrong standard.

  • @DaveRider719
    @DaveRider719 Год назад

    This awesome. I just ordered the upgrade box. I was not able to use the complete range of gears but didn’t want to adjust it because I have to adjust my gears every time I ride outside. This will be a great solution for me and a very comfortable one ☝🏻👌🏻

  • @rajavidhun
    @rajavidhun 11 месяцев назад

    My new unit adaptor bolt was so stuck and not loosen I had to return it

  • @Neil_down_south
    @Neil_down_south Год назад +1

    Looks great! i wonder how easy the sprocket is to remove and clean.

    • @Neil_down_south
      @Neil_down_south Год назад

      The lama just did a tear down... Assuming replacement sprockets are easy to get it's very easy. I think the supplied sprocket has a built in spacer which would need to be replicated. BMX sprockets might fit. Luckily the alignment doesn't have to be perfect as there are no other sprockets to rub against.

  • @MattSwain1
    @MattSwain1 Год назад

    This has thrown an unexpected wrench into my indoor training plans. Currently I have a Tacx Neo Gen 1 with an old bike on it - the Neo is great but the bike is falling apart, it’s good for ERG rides and not much else these days. Even a basic 10 speed bike is pretty expensive these days so I thought I might go all in on a Kickr Bike but this gives me a different (and much cheaper) option of selling my Neo and continuing with my old bike on the Zwift trainer with this cog for very little money. It’s really tempting compared to spending 3k on the Kickr 🤔

  • @rpiian
    @rpiian Год назад +1

    I was just talking about this with a buddy the other day... wouldn't it be nice to have a singlespeed, but you couldn't use it in freeride mode. I have to imagine Wahoo will have some answer to this in the future... hopefully via software and a small remote!

  • @nalissa77
    @nalissa77 Год назад +1

    I like it! But I'll wait a bit until I see how the reviews roll in. Until then, I'll stick with the cassette as it's been working fine. Thanks for the review!

  • @OrwellionFeverDreamCouchPotato
    @OrwellionFeverDreamCouchPotato Год назад +1

    What if you wanted to use this for a Training Peaks scheduled training workout or your own Interval workout? Does the erg mode just work via your head unit, phone, or synced computer? I'm only familiar with dumb trainers and this looks sweet to upgrade to. Thanks for the great review!

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      Yes you can use a head unit like a Garmin Edge for an ERG workout. I’ve done a video on that.

  • @darinsteele7091
    @darinsteele7091 Год назад +2

    hopefully Wahoo does something like this so we can add it to the kikr core

    • @Filipp81
      @Filipp81 9 месяцев назад

      Does it work with kickr v5?

  • @darthvulcanis4002
    @darthvulcanis4002 Год назад +3

    Does it come without connection dropouts, unlike my current Zwift Hub?

    • @DDGB08
      @DDGB08 Год назад +1

      Haha (Simpson’s laugh)

  • @chrischaralambous286
    @chrischaralambous286 Год назад

    Great video. Thanks for sharing.👍

  • @MrMattie725
    @MrMattie725 Год назад +1

    Virtual shifting works with a normal casette and the Zwift Play. So the Cog is nothing but a gear with some plastic guards?

  • @Sneijders0103
    @Sneijders0103 10 месяцев назад

    In the discription of Zwift Hub One stands its compatible for 8-12 Cassette. Do you think it is also possible with a 7 time Shimano Cassette to work with? I dont want to buy a complete new bike for a trainer. Thank you.

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  10 месяцев назад +1

      It comes down to if the bike actually fits on the trainer. If the rear dropouts fits then there is a good chance that it will work.

    • @Sneijders0103
      @Sneijders0103 10 месяцев назад

      @@SmartBikeTrainers First of all thank you very much taking time to give me an answer to that question.
      Do you think i should Take the risk and try this?
      I feel Like there is a Chance, im using a Standart ~130mm quick Release on this Bike so on this Side this is Not unice.

  • @grasho
    @grasho Год назад

    Hello. Thank you for the review. I have a question that I can't find an answer to anywhere: What if I buy the Zwift HUB One and at some point I want to put a standard cassette? Do I need to buy a hub body, or I can use the hub body that comes with the HUB One and just remove the single cog with the plastic cones from it?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      Great question! I don't think you can use the hub from the Cog and you'll need to get a cassette hub body. But that's a great question for Zwift support to help clear things up for you 👍

  • @bennyayaya
    @bennyayaya Год назад

    This is huge! Would I be able to slap that hub thing on a kickr core or any other manufacturer's products?

  • @cristiansan
    @cristiansan Год назад

    do you know if this is compatible with jetblack?

  • @ShaneOSullivanky
    @ShaneOSullivanky Год назад +1

    Notice your power data updates extremely quickly. Knew higher resolution was something Wahoo did with the Ethernet adaptor but how is this possible on the Zwift hub?

    • @Bazza1968
      @Bazza1968 Год назад +1

      Yeah it's got 10Hz now only via Bluetooth (months after the JetBlack Volt did)...

  • @Rembirdable
    @Rembirdable Год назад

    Can I still use a cassette instead of the cog if I do want to use software other zwift? Or do I have to buy yhe classic onstead of the one then?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      You can simply switch the cog with a cassette. You just need to have a cassette body.

  • @davidwalker5665
    @davidwalker5665 Год назад

    for a non-techie, is that screen on a large computer monitor or a flat screen TV ? Seems half the fun of using this is virtual riding with friends.

  • @jms493
    @jms493 Год назад

    Noise? Is it quieter than the Wahoo Kickr?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      It’s pretty quiet. He only noise I hear is from my chain.

    • @DanKla91
      @DanKla91 10 месяцев назад

      And the Chain sound is way louder than with a normal cassette cause of this plastic ring

  • @Chris.Robison
    @Chris.Robison Год назад +1

    Am I right by thinking this will effectively turn my 1x gravel bike into a 2x road bike on zwift? That would be pretty neat.
    What gear ratio does this give you? 52/11?

    • @eeyou
      @eeyou Год назад +6

      From bikeradar:
      Zwift says the Hub’s virtual drivetrain has 24 discrete gears, simulating a gear ratio range from 0.75 to 5.49.
      That’s roughly equivalent to a 30-tooth chainring paired with a 40t cassette sprocket at the lowest end, all the way up to a monstrous 55x10t gear at the high end.

  • @lfilipiuk
    @lfilipiuk Год назад

    Does virtual shifting work from Zwift Play work with Wahoo Kickr Smart v4?

  • @adamzinnecker2141
    @adamzinnecker2141 Год назад +1

    So you get 24 gears no matter what speed your bike is? My bike is a 16 speed (8 gear cassete in the back, and two chain rings in the front). So I would be getting more available speeds with this? Do you ever need to shift your gears in the front, or do you just keep it on the small ring? FYI - Zwift customer service is great. I bought the zwift hub classic before all this was available. Because I'm still in my 30 day return window they are sending me the upgrade kit free!

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      Yes, you will get 24 virtual gears regardless of your setup. Glad to hear Zwift is sending you the upgrade kit for no extra cost 👍

    • @benevamalc
      @benevamalc Год назад

      I purchased an 11 speed Zwift Hub in September and then this comes out! Perfect for swapping between my 11 and 12 speed bikes. I bought the upgrade kit on Wednesday, but am now asking if I can have a refund as I'm also within my 30 day return window.

    • @adamzinnecker2141
      @adamzinnecker2141 Год назад +1

      @@benevamalc I'm sure they will. They gave me the option of getting the upgrade free or refunding me 50 bucks off my trainer to buy the upgrade kit. I'm sure they will refund you. If anything you could request a return for your trainer and the upgrade kit, and than buy the new one but hopefully it doesn't come to that. Sounds like a hassle. Me new upgrade kit comes tomorrow. Just reach out to Zwift support. I did it in a email and I got a response within a hour or so. I'm more interested in this for other reasons than swapping bike. Using virtual shifting will be less wear and tear on your own bike. Your chain won't wear out as fast, your shifting cables will be preserved as you won't be using them, and no need to wear out casssetes faster. Lots of benefits. I bike/zwift soo much that my shifting cables tend to break on me once a year. I'm hoping this will help with that.

    • @benevamalc
      @benevamalc Год назад

      @@adamzinnecker2141 I’ve just set mine up, but I can’t get my MacBook to connect to the shifter device or recognise I’ve got a hub connected. Isn’t there a calibration process to go through too? Confused and frustrated!

    • @benevamalc
      @benevamalc Год назад

      @@adamzinnecker2141 I’m keen to do the switch for the same reasons as you! I’ve not had a full on winter of turbo training but need to in preparation for an Ironman next year.

  • @krzysztoftylek787
    @krzysztoftylek787 Год назад

    quick question. I have a tacx neo with zwift controllers. does zwift plan on releasing similar functionality for the different hardware? that would be neat.

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      Zwift is saying they plan on opening the protocols to support other hardware manufacturers. I have no timeline and I don’t see this happening in the near future.

    • @MarioPassamonti
      @MarioPassamonti Год назад

      sorry just a question: with the zwift controllers you have the virtual shifting too or not, I can't find this information! Thanks!

    • @Filipp81
      @Filipp81 9 месяцев назад

      @@MarioPassamontiyes but not on kickr v5

  • @laurenzw.5877
    @laurenzw.5877 Год назад

    Does it also work with for example Garmin 530 allone without zwift?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      It broadcasts power speed and cadence through Bluetooth and ANT+. So you should be able to pair it to your Garmin 530 and record data.

    • @laurenzw.5877
      @laurenzw.5877 Год назад

      @@SmartBikeTrainers thank you for the fast reply! But can i also change virtual gears?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      @@laurenzw.5877 You will need to use Zwift along withe the Zwift Hub and Cog or (controllers) to use virtual shifting. Garmin will only record your ride no gear info.

  • @rrosomasa
    @rrosomasa Год назад +1

    so you're not really able to use this without the zwift app?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      Correct. The trainer and controller need to be paired to the Zwift app and the app does everything.

  • @shisui.7697
    @shisui.7697 Год назад

    I'm very intrigued but is the Zwift Hub getting shipped with as the 'Hub One' still compatible with a normal cassette if you chose to go that route in the future? I guess it does if you can buy the cog separately?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      Yes, mine is basically the original Hub with the Cog installed. When you buy, you can choose between the hub classic or the new hub one. Both are selling for the same $599 price.

  • @danielhunt2510
    @danielhunt2510 Год назад +3

    Locking the shifting to Zwift only is a big no for me. Can’t see why Wahoo or other manufacturers can’t do this which works in all ecosystems.

    • @RossMKF1
      @RossMKF1 11 месяцев назад

      You could always switch to cassette if need be. Z swift would have to tune it to each software with this system

  • @sitoudien9816
    @sitoudien9816 Год назад +1

    The wahoo rollr should compete directly with this. No fuss. Switch bikes. Lower the price and include a power meter. Wishful thinking?

  • @freebird61885
    @freebird61885 Год назад

    This is outstanding.

  • @jacklyke7731
    @jacklyke7731 Год назад

    How does the Difficulty setting work with this?

    • @Bober909
      @Bober909 Год назад

      Difficulty setting only effects the resistance based on gradient. So if you do a 10% climb, it's going to feel like a 5% climb, that doesn't mean you can climb faster, as the power is still going to reflect your speed. With virtual shifting, nothing changes, it's just that gears are handled by zwift. An example 10% climb; With virtual shifting, you can keep a steady cadence while climbing in 10th virtual gear at 50% trainer difficulty. The same could be achieved in 5th gear at 100% trainer difficulty. Trainer difficulty is mostly there if there are 10%+ climbs and your original bike had gear ratios that you couldn't physically handle.

  • @silviudicu664
    @silviudicu664 Год назад

    Can you use a fixed (track) bike with it ?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      Yes it should

    • @THeALpHaZ39
      @THeALpHaZ39 Год назад +2

      You might need to double check but I think Manon said on the GCN presentation video of the Hub that you needed to have a rear deraillleur for tension. But again, double check to be sure.

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      Just to elaborate on my original response. You will need to check if your bike physically fit on the trainer. Some fixed speed bikes have narrower dropouts so it will not physically fit. Also, like the previous commenter said, you might need a chain tensioner. So, I would definitely check with Zwift support on this.

  • @melbtrip
    @melbtrip Год назад

    What about 7 speed bike??

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      Depends on your bike and if it can be actually mounted on a trainer. Most 7 speed bikes sold nowadays come with a solid axle and a screw-on cassette meaning they physically cannot be mounted to a trainer.

  • @MarioPassamonti
    @MarioPassamonti Год назад

    sorry just a question: I didn't understand if with the zwift controllers on a TACX trained you can have the virtual shifting too or not, I can't find this information! Thanks!

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      No you cannot. It is only compatible with the Zwift HUB classic or Zwift Hub One.

  • @GeorgAndTheBike
    @GeorgAndTheBike Год назад

    Do I understand it right, that it would also work with my old bike with 9 gear campagnolo shift? Thanks

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      Per Zwift, it works with any 8-12 speed bike. It’s a 14t sprocket and that’s all there is to it.

    • @Peakabike
      @Peakabike Год назад

      @@SmartBikeTrainers And with a 7 speed bike ? Can't see why it wouldn't work, I'll try with my old Raleigh bike if I make the jump ;-)

  • @HerminioGonzalezHerm
    @HerminioGonzalezHerm Год назад

    Is this going to work with a sram force group set

  • @tonys1587
    @tonys1587 Год назад

    Would this work with a track bike (120mm-wide frames)? I have a single speed I’d love to put on this

    • @stuartmisfeldt3068
      @stuartmisfeldt3068 Год назад

      Minimum 130 spacing.

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      It depends if your bike has a regular dropouts and can physically fit on a trainer. You also might need a chain tensioner.

  • @hrpzwift945
    @hrpzwift945 Год назад

    8 pct lower power than powerlink is way to big a diff 193,93 vs 210,68 at 9:36

  • @stuartmisfeldt3068
    @stuartmisfeldt3068 Год назад

    Is Zwift Play compatible with 2000-2008 Ergos?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      As far as virtual shifting, Zwift Play is compatible with the Zwift Hub or Hub One. However, you can use the Zwift play on its own to control other aspect of the Zwift game like steering, some navigation and some other aspects of the game. Virtual Shifting is only compatible with Zwift Hub.

    • @stuartmisfeldt3068
      @stuartmisfeldt3068 Год назад

      @@SmartBikeTrainers I understand that. I’m asking if they physically fit that model of ergo, since it is different in shape from modern shifters.

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      ⁠@@stuartmisfeldt3068Sorry I read your question wrong. I would reach out to Zwift support for Ergos compatibility as I dont have those type of shifters. The Zwift Play wraps around the handlebars and can be adjusted to fit a wide range of handlebars. Just looking at pics of Campagnolo ergos, I don’t see why they wouldn’t fit but would definitely check with Zwift.

    • @stuartmisfeldt3068
      @stuartmisfeldt3068 Год назад

      @@SmartBikeTrainers I went to their site. Campagnolo with thumb shifters are not supported, don’t fit.

  • @SmartBikeTrainers
    @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +4

    Buy the Zwift HUB One (affiliate): zwiftinc.sjv.io/AWaRbN
    If anyone is interested in the upgrade kit (Click & Cog), Zwift is currently offering the Click and Cog for $59.99: zwiftinc.sjv.io/WqK21Z

    • @oulcanee
      @oulcanee Год назад +3

      Do we know if it is compatible with Sram flattop chain?

    • @THeALpHaZ39
      @THeALpHaZ39 Год назад

      @@oulcanee Zwift said it is, and other reviews I checked said it worked fine with SRAM

    • @janstrecha6442
      @janstrecha6442 Год назад

      That's my question too...

  • @hpk4917
    @hpk4917 Год назад

    Hello 👋 thanks for the informative Video 👍

  • @mattmcmullen8244
    @mattmcmullen8244 Год назад +1

    I don’t really understand how their single gear “cassette” will work with any bike and any chain. Doesn’t the chain and cassette that the bike comes with matter?

    • @kidsafe
      @kidsafe Год назад

      The cassette clearly doesn’t matter because you take your rear wheel off before using direct-drive trainers. The chain doesn’t matter because all bicycle chains have the same 0.5” pin pitch. In a singlespeed setup, the width of the chain won’t matter. If a cog is narrow enough to mesh with a 12-speed chain, it will have no issue meshing with an 8-speed chain.

    • @WeeFBS
      @WeeFBS Год назад +1

      The space between the teeth is the same regardless of chain, the width of a chain changes from 8 all the way 12, so a 12 speed chain would work… poorly yes… but work on a 8 spd cassette as it’s thinner than a 8 spd chain but a 8 chain won’t work on a 12 spd cassette as it’s too wide

  • @andyb8122
    @andyb8122 Год назад

    Typical, last week I got the now Zwift classic. Time to upgrade, at least it's only €60.

  • @ArdGeal
    @ArdGeal Год назад

    Better to just run a winter crankset with a 34T and a chain tensioner.... What chainline have they specified??? It's not really like real life having a single 24 speed cassette though is it and how will it mimic cresting a hill and going from say front chainring small to large and dumping 4 or 5 cogs at the back in a second or two??
    Looks good but not as brilliant an idea as my wobbly, handlebar mounted Wahoo Gel Holder that cost £45 in February....

  • @batman3841
    @batman3841 Год назад

    Why cant fhis support 7 speed bikes?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      Depends on your bike and if it can be actually mounted on a trainer. Most 7 speed bikes sold nowadays come with a solid axle and a screw-on cassette meaning they physically cannot be mounted to a trainer.

  • @AlbertoIaniro
    @AlbertoIaniro Год назад

    Is universal this fake cassette? Or only for zwift hub?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад

      Virtual shifting is only compatible with Zwift HUB. So even if you can fit it on other trainers, it’s not gonna work.

    • @AlbertoIaniro
      @AlbertoIaniro Год назад

      @@SmartBikeTrainers yeah I read on Zwift shop page. Very very interesting solution

  • @Marvoguts
    @Marvoguts Год назад

    What about noise?

    • @SmartBikeTrainers
      @SmartBikeTrainers  Год назад +1

      It’s very quiet. You will only hear the noise from your chain.

  • @DDGB08
    @DDGB08 Год назад

    😊

  • @michaellane1316
    @michaellane1316 Год назад

    Any trainers out there that have the cassette without any app crap? Who needs virtual screen time? Take it outside.

  • @edwiser
    @edwiser Год назад

    So it’s just a gravel bike setup.

  • @Thebikewrench
    @Thebikewrench Год назад +1

    Honestly, you seem to be biased toward Zwift, so it’s difficult, to trust your reviews, when it comes to virtual cycling apps, and I think the same will occur as Zwift gets in to indoor hardware.

    • @RetiSKK
      @RetiSKK Год назад

      The incompatibility with other platforms is quickly buried in a short sentence, but it is obviously a major issue and a deciding factor in the choice between Classic and Hub One.

  • @Tootinjsh
    @Tootinjsh Год назад

    Omg that is amazing. I start check how I can switch to mtb 12 speed and if I need buy some begginer road bike for zwift and indoor training. And know I don't need that. Only if I want some road bike for roads. Thanks for info. You are amazing! 👍🦾