Man, I can't believe that a so important and useful video has only 200 likes. People should pay more attention to these risks. Thanks a lot Nathan for such an accessible summary of the topic, really nice job man!
I have 9 printers running in my office 24/7 so I have taken this topic seriously. I have 2 particle meters that both always stay well within healthy levels. (5ppm or so) I also have a voc meter that doesn't notice any increase in levels from the fdm printers. And barely anything from the Resin printer. There is research out there about how much polution is caused by fdm printers. Frankly its not that much, especially when printing pla at normal temps. Having your window/door open and ventilating your room pasively should be quite sufficient in keeping the ppm's within reasonable levels. Ofcourse in a closed room levels will keep gradually rising, but that also applies to CO2 and moisture which are actually more immediate problems. As for fire alarm, get a smart one combined with a smart plug that automatically switches off the power to the printer. The most probably cause of fire is either the hotend or bed heating uncontrollably due to faulty thermostat or software. Turning of power will stop it from feeding a fire. Be smart about where you put your printer. Clearly don't store your printer in a wooden(or otherwise flammable) shelf. Don't store your PLA on top of your printer as filament can also catch fire. A burning printer can't take down the entire house if theres nothing for the flames to catch on to.
Great video, started printing recently and my girlfriend got a migraine 2 days in a row while printing, but i was fine. I dont think im stupid but i didnt think about fumes and nano particles from printing plastic. Using 3 of those cheap indoor fans till i finish cleaning out our spare room to close off the printers from the rest of the house. Aside from that with the extra ventilation she hasn’t had migraines.
I've been looking into adding HEPA or MERV filtration to my P1S. I'm considering anything between simply adding a sheet of MERV fabric on top of the built-in carbon filter, a HEPA filter so the exhaust fan, to a bento box v2 in the enclosure. Do you think any of these or a combination of these would be enough to keep the air in my office pretty clean? Or would you still advise getting some kind of standalone air filter?
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm getting into resin 3D printing and have been trying to learn before buying a printer. This has been a huge help!
Thanks for a great video! My 3D printer work area is an old desk, I built a box on top using plywood and plexiglass, and connected a 4” duct to create negative pressure around the hood and blow the air outside through a standard clothes dryer vent. I also mounted a smoke detector in there. The stinkiest filament I’m aware of is fire-resistant ABS, I can print that and not smell a thing.
I was thinking of getting a 3d printer for myself but it wouldn't be in a very well ventilated room. I think I'll hold off until I can be in a space that is well ventilated. :/
I was literally just thinking about this because I recently set up my printer next to my desk in a small office. I feel like everything from a cursory Google search just says PLA is safe so this breakdown is very important
Hey I just recieved a creality ender v2 3d printer and I live in an apartment with not much ventilation. I was wondering if I buy a HEPA filter and put it next to my printer will it filter out the toxins that you metnioned? Would I have to take extra steps like putting a cardboard box over it with the filter inside and opening the wincows after a print? I just don't have many options because it's a small apartment and the windows aren't close to the printer.
I would do all of the above. But watch out for fire hazard, cardboard isn't the best choice for an enclosure. I built some shelving out of sheet rock, very fire resistant and can hold some weight, though it is pretty fragile in general.
Havent purchased my 3D Printer yet but I am planning on using Nylon G for Professional use, so I'm doing a ton of research into this ahead of time. So far, I am going to get an enclosure to put the Printer in, use a filament heater to keep the filament in while it's feedinng during Print time, then have a carbon filter next to the Printer in the enclosure along with running a tubular air duct from the enclosure to a HEPA filter then directly vented outside. Might seem a bit much but there's no way in hell I am going to work with Nylon G and not take protections against the possibility of glass particulates floating around my house. Better safe than sorry.
Thank you for the informative video! I have a question regarding the use of an enclosure for my 3D printer. If I buy an enclosure and place it in my room, will the VOCs still be a problem, as they may condense within the enclosure? Alternatively, I'm considering placing the 3D printer with the enclosure on my balcony. Would this be a better option for mitigating VOC-related concerns? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
I just sold my Resin printer because I was worried about the health risk with resin and now I see this. I wanted to by an FDM printer instead. Would you say that this is still safer than working with resin?
I think so. If you enclose the printer (with an IKEA Lack table or something) and put an overkill HEPA filter right next to it like the one I linked to, there will be very little air pollution. I doubt you'd be able to smell or detect it in any way.
There’s no shortage of info regarding the risks of resin printing. Google “resin printing risks Reddit” and you’ll find a trove of info. There’s one post in particular where a user is discussing on how he might go blind due to his negligence on proper protocol. The volatile substances involved with resin printing have been THOROUGHLY studied, so please please please, be careful. You can casually print with substances such as PLA and probably be “okay”, but do NOT use the same approach with resin. It’s a great tool and I’m not pushing anyone away from it, but exercise caution!
No, don’t print in your bedroom. EVER. You will breathe plastic for 8 hours. Put the printer in a different room and use an exhaust fan to draw air out of the house.
Hello, I just got my ender-3 V2 3D printer and am planning on using Pla for printing. I am probably gonna place it in my room. Do you think I am gonna need an enclosure to be extra safe?
I would make an effort to add some level of ventilation or filtration. If you can have an enclosure with a ducted fan exhausted out a window, that's the best setup IMO.
I have recently been looking into HEPA filters for a DIY airbrush spray booth. I would also be using this spray booth for post-processing 3D printed models. This info came in really handy right now. Thanks for the tips!
Yes, it wouldn't hurt to have some air filtration. However, with any exposure risk, you have to consider the concentration and the amount of time you are exposed. if you are only using the 3D pen for a couple minutes it's not going to create nearly as much air pollution as a 3D printer that is running for 10 hours.
It has to be a carbon filter to catch the VOCs. A lot of hepa filter have some light duty carbon filtration, but a proper industrial filter will last much longer and have some options for recharging
Thanks for this, I was looking for some papers to confirm the theories about HEPA + Activated Carbon. Do you know of a good air sensor to test the effectiveness of our filter solutions?
How dare I recommend the safety equipment that I use to other people! I did the same thing with laser safety glasses when using a laser cutter. Remember to click the link in the description, IT REALLY HELPS ME OUT 😉 I wish air purifiers were less expensive. Could probably get away with 3d printing one if I could find a suitable fan to drive it.
I knew it. As soon as I thought about plastic and heat, I knew we are going to have issues. I would also assume that vaporizing these materials would cause microscopic particles to be in your space, on your floors, walls, etc, which means they will get kicked up into the air when vacuuming or even walking around, sitting down on floor, having a child who plays on the floor. Removing particles from the air using a HEPA filter is not enough. If tested, areas where 3d printing is happening are probably going to show particles on surfaces regardless of a HEPA filter in the room. Just a disaster. The only way to do this is to have a printer be isolated in a shed inside an enclosure. But it's all just not worth it. I wonder if printer materials also leave microscopic particles on your hands when you handle them...ie, the printing process probably leaves microscopic particles on surface and I'm not sure if due to the abrasive nature of a print, if particles aren't coming off the objected when handled later.
@@NathanBuildsRobots yea that makes sense. So, the question being: 1) how much of a particle trail does handling printed objects cause and how significant is it according to what’s considered safe from a microplastics’ consumption perspective (ie what is allowed in water bottles etc). 2) does washing/scrubbing parts after print make a large difference (this should, intuitively help considerably). 3) do printed, washed, parts tend to break up (microscopically) over time, naturally, while handling due to the way they were constructed? It’s not about “no exposure”, unfortunately, that’s not possible today; it’s about accelerated exposure to micro plastics due to the nature of melting and layering plastics at home. Who knows, it may not be any worse off than regular plastic based manufacturing. These are interesting questions for me nonetheless.
@@CrushTheWealthGap I share a lot of your worries and I don't know much but you are right about the particles on skin thing, although there's layers of dead skin that protects us so unless you have sensitive skin I doubt it'd do any real damage as long as you wash your hands Nonetheless I would still be really cautious due to lack of transparency from companies about the hazards of printing and ongoing research
Hi I'm a newbie in the 3d Printing world and I really thank you for speaking about the printing hazards in this vid. I'm getting my first FDM printer, I plan on having my printer in my room (due to some limitations) within an enclosure (a box on my shelf) with an extractor fan leading to outside, I know it isn't the fanciest set-up but, would it work for making a safer work enviroment and battling the plastic fumes? I know this video has some time but I'd apprecciate if you gave me your opinion on this! 🙇♂️
One of the ugly things about particles in the .1 to 1.5 nm range is that they tend to lodge in your lungs. Smaller particles act like a gas and get exhaled. Larger particles can land on cilia in your lungs and get swept up and out. Particles in the middle where HEPA is not as effective are the really dangerous ones.
Nylon release no toxic VOC's why speak nonsense? See video for all plastic danger "Всё о филаментах для 3D печати - характеристики, печать, применяемость"
in case anyone hasn't noticed its dangerous to your mental health as well. but seriously, good vid. subbed i could see the air in my office when the sun shines in the window in the afternoon when i'm printing so i went ahead and bought a carbon/hepa cylindrical cartridge that was on sale for cheap ( walmart :( .....) ... but it was $12 and the actual unit its supposed to go in is 80. it might actually be the same brand. just printed a disk with a hole in it to strap a pc fan to and leave it running... then put the smoke detector and the little filter thing into my own version of a lack enclosure (made from creform tubing)
Long haired good looking young tech Jesus, please give me a good idea beside the Levoit system (which I already use). I need something small to put inside my 55x55cm 3D printer enclosure. I want to keep the air inside circulating which will filter it even better while slower over time and recycle the heat inside. The enclosure is basically a cabinet. Somebody a good idea ? I go have some 120mm case fans sittings around and I wanted to use the HEPA14 + activated carbon filters used in cars, soldering stations, kitchen etc. just not sure which one to choose, it was ha so be small and flat.
@@NathanBuildsRobots I found the "Nevermore" But I really don´t trust in this design it has a bunch of issues. HEPA filter was missing so the activated carbon dust can get everywhere, you can also breath that shit which is just as bad for you as the rest. The activated carbon has a big grain size so a small surface to volume ratio and I can´t find any information on saturation, when is the thing saturated and when do I exchange the filter ? Also the design needs from what I saw to disassemble a standard blower fan and honestly if I need to do that then the design isn´t really great, a great design uses off the shelf components without the need of that.
Whilst PLA is safer than ABS and so on so forth, that's just the theory of it. It releases less particles, yes, but we aren't sure what those particles do. They might be harmless, but might aswell cause severe health issues in the future. Better be safe than sorry.
I have a HEPA filter and run it whenever it's convenient. The micro/nanoparticles that I discussed are released from all plastics near their melting point. Have you noticed when PLA is overheated it makes smoke? Well its always releasing some amount of smoke. at lower temperatures it's just not visible. Just something to consider.
Is that purifier in your link good enough? it says it can only handle down to .3 micron, which according to the study from Korea isn't quite good enough. Please correct me if I am wrong.
@@NathanBuildsRobots For a true HEPA filter it does make sense smaller particles are easier, my concern is that the filters on amazon aren't actually HEPA when the manufacturer is stating particle capture is limited at .3 micron.
I grew up in the mean decades of the 80s and 90s where smoking was everywhere, 70s boat cars where everywhere as well as their fumes, and not to mention the lovely high VOCs of paint lingering in our walls a we moved from place to place. I'm 39 and still kicking... Thank God. I'll crack open the window, set my air purifier on sleep and let the 3d run. Truth is, Pollen can kick ones butt FAR worse than PLA, which is what I use only (at 200 degrees).
Replace the china crap psu with an atx one designed for computers(NOT FROM GIGABYTE) and a boost converter. you'll make the printer actually UP to code and it will have a very low chance of catching fire.
I run one of my printers off a 330W Dell/Alienware laptop power supply. I like that solution a lot, but those power supplies are expensive compared to an ATX power supply.
@@NathanBuildsRobots I had a spare 700 watt atx psu with a single 12v rail that i repurposed for running my ender 5 plus. So it wasn't that expensive for me. Still even if it is. it should be done for these sub 1k printers. the risk of fire and other bad things is pretty high when running stock, psu's are NOT designed to constantly run in over power mode. which the 500w one that came with my printer was.
Wasn't there a study done that showed that the nano particles are basically not a threat due to how minimal it is? These particles were only able to be detected within hours of printing in a small enclosure and that they were barely detectable even then.
@@beastrealmwolf7693 In the video it looks like it was mostly picking up particles from the extruder mechanism itself. I think I saw that video but I don't remember. I guess the nano particles would also vary based on the material you print with. I think pla is the more benign of the materials in regards to that.
It is true health and safety laws govern this in the workplace so if you use a 3d printer do not use in a room with no ventilation and it should be in a airtight cabinet and vented outside through a filter if you use one at home these particles and or fumes are bad for anyone in the house just wearing a mask is not enough
Great video and a usually completely overlooked topic. I wonder how high the VOC levels get for all those folks printing with resin printers in living areas. Anyway, thanks!
I haven't read any papers on emissions from resin printers, but they do have a tendency to stink up a room. If I ever get a resin printer I will do a video about it and include some safety info.
@@NathanBuildsRobots That would be nice. Maybe I'm a bit overcautious there, but knowing how nasty epoxies and polyester resins are, especially the epichlorhydrine in epoxies, I'd never use one without something like a fume hood. Even if one UV resin is unproblematic the next doesn't have to be and the stink is quite bad anyway.
Man, I can't believe that a so important and useful video has only 200 likes. People should pay more attention to these risks. Thanks a lot Nathan for such an accessible summary of the topic, really nice job man!
666 at the current moment 😬
So what do you eat?
Do you watch tv?😂
Man everything hurts us.......for sure asa and abs are dangerous, but PLA?😂😂😂😊
I have 9 printers running in my office 24/7 so I have taken this topic seriously. I have 2 particle meters that both always stay well within healthy levels. (5ppm or so) I also have a voc meter that doesn't notice any increase in levels from the fdm printers. And barely anything from the Resin printer.
There is research out there about how much polution is caused by fdm printers. Frankly its not that much, especially when printing pla at normal temps.
Having your window/door open and ventilating your room pasively should be quite sufficient in keeping the ppm's within reasonable levels. Ofcourse in a closed room levels will keep gradually rising, but that also applies to CO2 and moisture which are actually more immediate problems.
As for fire alarm, get a smart one combined with a smart plug that automatically switches off the power to the printer. The most probably cause of fire is either the hotend or bed heating uncontrollably due to faulty thermostat or software. Turning of power will stop it from feeding a fire. Be smart about where you put your printer. Clearly don't store your printer in a wooden(or otherwise flammable) shelf. Don't store your PLA on top of your printer as filament can also catch fire. A burning printer can't take down the entire house if theres nothing for the flames to catch on to.
Great video, started printing recently and my girlfriend got a migraine 2 days in a row while printing, but i was fine. I dont think im stupid but i didnt think about fumes and nano particles from printing plastic. Using 3 of those cheap indoor fans till i finish cleaning out our spare room to close off the printers from the rest of the house. Aside from that with the extra ventilation she hasn’t had migraines.
Thank god I run my hotend at 209 degrees 🤐
If I throw my HEPA room air purifier circulator next to my printer, do you think this would be a good solution in a space I can’t vent easily?
I've been looking into adding HEPA or MERV filtration to my P1S. I'm considering anything between simply adding a sheet of MERV fabric on top of the built-in carbon filter, a HEPA filter so the exhaust fan, to a bento box v2 in the enclosure. Do you think any of these or a combination of these would be enough to keep the air in my office pretty clean? Or would you still advise getting some kind of standalone air filter?
I wouldn't be 3d printing in a room. Maybe a garage or shed pretty much.
Thank you so much for making this video. I'm getting into resin 3D printing and have been trying to learn before buying a printer. This has been a huge help!
Thanks for a great video! My 3D printer work area is an old desk, I built a box on top using plywood and plexiglass, and connected a 4” duct to create negative pressure around the hood and blow the air outside through a standard clothes dryer vent. I also mounted a smoke detector in there. The stinkiest filament I’m aware of is fire-resistant ABS, I can print that and not smell a thing.
Nice. In working on my own enclosure right now. Out of an old server rack, got a great deal on it
@@NathanBuildsRobots Any video on on your enclosure perhaps? 😊
It would be interesting to hear if and how you integrated ventilation in the enclosure.
@@fugixi is a failed project at the moment, using it for storage 😱
@@NathanBuildsRobots I see. 😀
Keep us posted. 😉
I was thinking of getting a 3d printer for myself but it wouldn't be in a very well ventilated room. I think I'll hold off until I can be in a space that is well ventilated. :/
What about an enclosure from Amazon with the vent out a window
I was literally just thinking about this because I recently set up my printer next to my desk in a small office. I feel like everything from a cursory Google search just says PLA is safe so this breakdown is very important
I think the safety of PLA is overstated. If you can smell something, you better be OK with it being a part of your body.
Mmmm... bacon...
@@NathanBuildsRobots Oh god, then I'm probably 25% dog farts by now.
That's a really good rule though, keep up the good work!
@@NathanBuildsRobots someone say bacon?
@@baconbigbeats did someone say dog farts?
Hey I just recieved a creality ender v2 3d printer and I live in an apartment with not much ventilation. I was wondering if I buy a HEPA filter and put it next to my printer will it filter out the toxins that you metnioned? Would I have to take extra steps like putting a cardboard box over it with the filter inside and opening the wincows after a print? I just don't have many options because it's a small apartment and the windows aren't close to the printer.
I would do all of the above. But watch out for fire hazard, cardboard isn't the best choice for an enclosure. I built some shelving out of sheet rock, very fire resistant and can hold some weight, though it is pretty fragile in general.
This video is so well detailed and yet nicely concise. This is so valuable, thank you for sharing this information in such a great format!
Havent purchased my 3D Printer yet but I am planning on using Nylon G for Professional use, so I'm doing a ton of research into this ahead of time. So far, I am going to get an enclosure to put the Printer in, use a filament heater to keep the filament in while it's feedinng during Print time, then have a carbon filter next to the Printer in the enclosure along with running a tubular air duct from the enclosure to a HEPA filter then directly vented outside.
Might seem a bit much but there's no way in hell I am going to work with Nylon G and not take protections against the possibility of glass particulates floating around my house. Better safe than sorry.
Thank you for the informative video! I have a question regarding the use of an enclosure for my 3D printer. If I buy an enclosure and place it in my room, will the VOCs still be a problem, as they may condense within the enclosure? Alternatively, I'm considering placing the 3D printer with the enclosure on my balcony. Would this be a better option for mitigating VOC-related concerns? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Did you get an answer for this?
I to wonder
I just sold my Resin printer because I was worried about the health risk with resin and now I see this. I wanted to by an FDM printer instead. Would you say that this is still safer than working with resin?
I think so. If you enclose the printer (with an IKEA Lack table or something) and put an overkill HEPA filter right next to it like the one I linked to, there will be very little air pollution. I doubt you'd be able to smell or detect it in any way.
So far, the most informative video in the shortest span of time I've seen 'researching' the topic.
No weird claims or attempts to upsell, just facts.
Have you done this for resin printing?
There’s no shortage of info regarding the risks of resin printing. Google “resin printing risks Reddit” and you’ll find a trove of info.
There’s one post in particular where a user is discussing on how he might go blind due to his negligence on proper protocol.
The volatile substances involved with resin printing have been THOROUGHLY studied, so please please please, be careful. You can casually print with substances such as PLA and probably be “okay”, but do NOT use the same approach with resin. It’s a great tool and I’m not pushing anyone away from it, but exercise caution!
Will a Bambu lab a1 mini be fine in my bedroom open , with a hepa and activated charcoal purifier right next to it ?
i have 2 toddlers so this worries me
No, don’t print in your bedroom. EVER. You will breathe plastic for 8 hours.
Put the printer in a different room and use an exhaust fan to draw air out of the house.
Hello, I just got my ender-3 V2 3D printer and am planning on using Pla for printing. I am probably gonna place it in my room. Do you think I am gonna need an enclosure to be extra safe?
I would make an effort to add some level of ventilation or filtration. If you can have an enclosure with a ducted fan exhausted out a window, that's the best setup IMO.
Good video...HEPA is a pretty simple thing to implement so well worth doing, apparently!
It's got a lot of uses, I often tip it on its side and use it as a bonus part cooling fan!
I have recently been looking into HEPA filters for a DIY airbrush spray booth. I would also be using this spray booth for post-processing 3D printed models. This info came in really handy right now. Thanks for the tips!
The same fundamentals should apply. Thanks for watching!
Would you recommend something like this when using a 3d pen?
Yes, it wouldn't hurt to have some air filtration. However, with any exposure risk, you have to consider the concentration and the amount of time you are exposed. if you are only using the 3D pen for a couple minutes it's not going to create nearly as much air pollution as a 3D printer that is running for 10 hours.
Hello, very interesting lecture, could you tell me if the hepa filter catches VOCs? Does the VOC remove the carbon filter?
It has to be a carbon filter to catch the VOCs. A lot of hepa filter have some light duty carbon filtration, but a proper industrial filter will last much longer and have some options for recharging
@@NathanBuildsRobots OK thank you
Thanks for this, I was looking for some papers to confirm the theories about HEPA + Activated Carbon. Do you know of a good air sensor to test the effectiveness of our filter solutions?
More people need to be aware of the safety risks involved. Thank you so much for sharing.
Always the same scenario. First a person wants to scary people and then sell them a cure for it!! Hahahaha.
How dare I recommend the safety equipment that I use to other people! I did the same thing with laser safety glasses when using a laser cutter.
Remember to click the link in the description, IT REALLY HELPS ME OUT 😉
I wish air purifiers were less expensive. Could probably get away with 3d printing one if I could find a suitable fan to drive it.
You are right! he has put amazon affiliate's code hahaha
I've always been told having a 3d printer in your room printing PLA is safe. idk why it took me so long to look into it
People often avoid the hard truths
I knew it. As soon as I thought about plastic and heat, I knew we are going to have issues. I would also assume that vaporizing these materials would cause microscopic particles to be in your space, on your floors, walls, etc, which means they will get kicked up into the air when vacuuming or even walking around, sitting down on floor, having a child who plays on the floor. Removing particles from the air using a HEPA filter is not enough. If tested, areas where 3d printing is happening are probably going to show particles on surfaces regardless of a HEPA filter in the room. Just a disaster. The only way to do this is to have a printer be isolated in a shed inside an enclosure. But it's all just not worth it. I wonder if printer materials also leave microscopic particles on your hands when you handle them...ie, the printing process probably leaves microscopic particles on surface and I'm not sure if due to the abrasive nature of a print, if particles aren't coming off the objected when handled later.
They definitely do leave material on your hands. I’ve seen pictures and want to get a macro lens to photograph them more clearly
@@NathanBuildsRobots yea that makes sense. So, the question being:
1) how much of a particle trail does handling printed objects cause and how significant is it according to what’s considered safe from a microplastics’ consumption perspective (ie what is allowed in water bottles etc).
2) does washing/scrubbing parts after print make a large difference (this should, intuitively help considerably).
3) do printed, washed, parts tend to break up (microscopically) over time, naturally, while handling due to the way they were constructed?
It’s not about “no exposure”, unfortunately, that’s not possible today; it’s about accelerated exposure to micro plastics due to the nature of melting and layering plastics at home. Who knows, it may not be any worse off than regular plastic based manufacturing. These are interesting questions for me nonetheless.
@@CrushTheWealthGap I share a lot of your worries and I don't know much but you are right about the particles on skin thing, although there's layers of dead skin that protects us so unless you have sensitive skin I doubt it'd do any real damage as long as you wash your hands
Nonetheless I would still be really cautious due to lack of transparency from companies about the hazards of printing and ongoing research
Hi I'm a newbie in the 3d Printing world and I really thank you for speaking about the printing hazards in this vid.
I'm getting my first FDM printer, I plan on having my printer in my room (due to some limitations) within an enclosure (a box on my shelf) with an extractor fan leading to outside, I know it isn't the fanciest set-up but, would it work for making a safer work enviroment and battling the plastic fumes? I know this video has some time but I'd apprecciate if you gave me your opinion on this! 🙇♂️
Hi, what's the levoit model that you have
Thanks for the great video! Looks like I need a HEPA filter!
One of the ugly things about particles in the .1 to 1.5 nm range is that they tend to lodge in your lungs. Smaller particles act like a gas and get exhaled. Larger particles can land on cilia in your lungs and get swept up and out. Particles in the middle where HEPA is not as effective are the really dangerous ones.
한국에서도 암 발생 논란이 많습니다. 좋은 영상입니다. 일단, hepa 필터만으로도 어느정도 문제 해결 가능한 것이군요.
Nylon release no toxic VOC's why speak nonsense? See video for all plastic danger "Всё о филаментах для 3D печати - характеристики, печать, применяемость"
is PLA toxic? can i have my ender 3 in my room and don't worry about it if i only use PLA?
Just get a enclosed with bento box?
Would using n95 or kn95 facemask help?
Probably, but it's a bit inconvenient compared to a whole room solution.
Can't i just print outside? Would be a lot easier xD
Hmmm hepa filter with activated carbon can’t stay long time in store or etc before you buy
in case anyone hasn't noticed its dangerous to your mental health as well.
but seriously, good vid. subbed
i could see the air in my office when the sun shines in the window in the afternoon when i'm printing so i went ahead and bought a carbon/hepa cylindrical cartridge that was on sale for cheap ( walmart :( .....) ... but it was $12 and the actual unit its supposed to go in is 80. it might actually be the same brand. just printed a disk with a hole in it to strap a pc fan to and leave it running... then put the smoke detector and the little filter thing into my own version of a lack enclosure (made from creform tubing)
Yeah it mimics estrogen. You may troon out if male.
well I think I am done 3D printing
Long haired good looking young tech Jesus, please give me a good idea beside the Levoit system (which I already use).
I need something small to put inside my 55x55cm 3D printer enclosure. I want to keep the air inside circulating which will filter it even better while slower over time and recycle the heat inside. The enclosure is basically a cabinet. Somebody a good idea ? I go have some 120mm case fans sittings around and I wanted to use the HEPA14 + activated carbon filters used in cars, soldering stations, kitchen etc. just not sure which one to choose, it was ha so be small and flat.
Ratrig came out with some sort of filter that sits at the bottom of an enclosure, think its called the rat pack?
@@NathanBuildsRobots I found the "Nevermore" But I really don´t trust in this design it has a bunch of issues. HEPA filter was missing so the activated carbon dust can get everywhere, you can also breath that shit which is just as bad for you as the rest. The activated carbon has a big grain size so a small surface to volume ratio and I can´t find any information on saturation, when is the thing saturated and when do I exchange the filter ? Also the design needs from what I saw to disassemble a standard blower fan and honestly if I need to do that then the design isn´t really great, a great design uses off the shelf components without the need of that.
Ummm..I have never had my printer above 202 degrees.
If i am printing just PLA do i need a hepa filters?
Whilst PLA is safer than ABS and so on so forth, that's just the theory of it. It releases less particles, yes, but we aren't sure what those particles do. They might be harmless, but might aswell cause severe health issues in the future. Better be safe than sorry.
I have a HEPA filter and run it whenever it's convenient.
The micro/nanoparticles that I discussed are released from all plastics near their melting point. Have you noticed when PLA is overheated it makes smoke? Well its always releasing some amount of smoke. at lower temperatures it's just not visible.
Just something to consider.
Is that purifier in your link good enough? it says it can only handle down to .3 micron, which according to the study from Korea isn't quite good enough. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I believe smaller particles are actually easier to filter - look up the mechanisms of particle capture for filters
@@NathanBuildsRobots For a true HEPA filter it does make sense smaller particles are easier, my concern is that the filters on amazon aren't actually HEPA when the manufacturer is stating particle capture is limited at .3 micron.
I grew up in the mean decades of the 80s and 90s where smoking was everywhere, 70s boat cars where everywhere as well as their fumes, and not to mention the lovely high VOCs of paint lingering in our walls a we moved from place to place. I'm 39 and still kicking... Thank God. I'll crack open the window, set my air purifier on sleep and let the 3d run. Truth is, Pollen can kick ones butt FAR worse than PLA, which is what I use only (at 200 degrees).
Am i going to die😭
Thank You!
Replace the china crap psu with an atx one designed for computers(NOT FROM GIGABYTE) and a boost converter. you'll make the printer actually UP to code and it will have a very low chance of catching fire.
I run one of my printers off a 330W Dell/Alienware laptop power supply. I like that solution a lot, but those power supplies are expensive compared to an ATX power supply.
@@NathanBuildsRobots I had a spare 700 watt atx psu with a single 12v rail that i repurposed for running my ender 5 plus. So it wasn't that expensive for me. Still even if it is. it should be done for these sub 1k printers.
the risk of fire and other bad things is pretty high when running stock, psu's are NOT designed to constantly run in over power mode. which the 500w one that came with my printer was.
Wasn't there a study done that showed that the nano particles are basically not a threat due to how minimal it is? These particles were only able to be detected within hours of printing in a small enclosure and that they were barely detectable even then.
With how new 3d printing is only time will tell...
@@beastrealmwolf7693 In the video it looks like it was mostly picking up particles from the extruder mechanism itself. I think I saw that video but I don't remember. I guess the nano particles would also vary based on the material you print with. I think pla is the more benign of the materials in regards to that.
It is true health and safety laws govern this in the workplace so if you use a 3d printer do not use in a room with no ventilation and it should be in a airtight cabinet and vented outside through a filter if you use one at home these particles and or fumes are bad for anyone in the house just wearing a mask is not enough
Super vidéo really all the information I need thank you
Great video and a usually completely overlooked topic.
I wonder how high the VOC levels get for all those folks printing with resin printers in living areas.
Anyway, thanks!
I haven't read any papers on emissions from resin printers, but they do have a tendency to stink up a room.
If I ever get a resin printer I will do a video about it and include some safety info.
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That would be nice.
Maybe I'm a bit overcautious there, but knowing how nasty epoxies and polyester resins are, especially the epichlorhydrine in epoxies, I'd never use one without something like a fume hood. Even if one UV resin is unproblematic the next doesn't have to be and the stink is quite bad anyway.
Resin is an entirely different level of toxicity, allergies can develop before symptoms from PLA VOC's will set in AFAIK
Don't care
It's nowhere near as bad as huffing paint or smoking, for what it's worth.
Excellent video. Thanks for posting!