Jordan Peterson: The Logos at Ephesus

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  • Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
  • Ralston College presents the inaugural lecture of its Chancellor, Dr Jordan B. Peterson, delivered at one of the most iconic sites of the ancient world, the Library of Celsus in Ephesus. This ancient city was the birthplace of Heraclitus, the philosopher who first articulated the idea of the Logos (Λόγος), and the final resting place of St John, who uses that same Greek word to name the Divine Word. In his lecture, Dr Peterson argues that the intelligibility of the world depends on patterned regularities that are superordinate to our immediate perception; this underlying order-which, from the Greeks onward, we have called the Logos-is both the horizon that enables human perception and the basis for the possibilities that we realize in the world. Such an account of our intrinsic, rational, and self-determining capacity constitutes a challenge to the assumptions of many prevailing schools of thought-such as behaviorism, rigid empiricism, and postmodernism-and lays the burden of personal ethics, and the formation of a good society, squarely on the shoulders of the individual.
    This lecture took place during the first term of Ralston College's inaugural MA in the Humanities on August 31st, 2022.
    Authors, Ideas, and Works Mentioned in this Episode
    Library of Celsus
    Heraclitus
    Logos (λόγος)
    John the Apostle
    The Gospel of John, “Book 1”
    Carl Jung
    John Milton
    Book of Genesis
    Book of Exodus
    Friedrich Nietzsche
    Fyodor Dostoevsky
    Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
    Links of Possible Interest
    Dr Jordan Peterson
    www.ralston.ac/people/jordan-...
    Dr Stephen Blackwood
    www.stephenjblackwood.com
    Ralston College (including newsletter)
    ralston.ac
    Ralston College Short Courses
    www.ralston.ac/humanities-sho...
    Ralston College Humanities MA
    www.ralston.ac/humanities-ma
    Timeline
    0:00 - Beginning
    0:57 - Lecture begins
    4:18 - The world of what matters versus the world of matter
    10:08 - Patterned regularities are superordinate to immediate perception
    13:30 - Our perception shows us what is, but also what could be
    16:30 - We are not automated machines; we are rather an embodiment of the Logos
    22:10 - We prioritize perceptions, thus see the world through a system of values
    31:30 - We cannot see the world except through an ethic
    36:50 - We act out the world through what we describe as a narrative
    47:25 - Social cohesion is dependent on perceptual prioritization
    50:00 - Consequences for the future
    #RalstonCollege

Комментарии • 117

  • @RalstonCollegeSavannah
    @RalstonCollegeSavannah  Год назад +14

    Applications for Ralston College's MA in the Humanities for 2023 are now open: www.ralston.ac/humanities-ma

    • @the0point
      @the0point Год назад +1

      Lol not worth anything.

  • @emanuelephrem4307
    @emanuelephrem4307 Год назад +69

    This man restored my faith in faith itself

  • @OccamsRazor393
    @OccamsRazor393 Год назад +13

    The smile on Jordan's face when the dog barks, priceless.

  • @direnius
    @direnius 4 месяца назад +3

    Although this speech was aimed and focused at Christianity, Greek philosophy and Western rationale, Jordan Peterson has been immensely popular in Turkey, these last years. It was an honor having him here. I sincerely hope he enjoyed his stay and will one day do a lecture at a Turkish university or foundation.

  • @marknylthomas2897
    @marknylthomas2897 Год назад +13

    Dr Peterson is as real a pillar in my life as those that surround him - a colossal positive influence.

    • @the0point
      @the0point Год назад

      That pillar is really a weapon, derp.

    • @by7810
      @by7810 Год назад +1

      The pillar is a pillar. It's only a weapon if you're losing an argument against what is stone.. Derp.

  • @PM-gt9mh
    @PM-gt9mh Год назад +25

    Damn, he‘s basically explaining my Doctoral Thesis xD Always great to see that thoughts can conflate despite coming from completely different angles

  • @SoloDallas
    @SoloDallas Год назад +9

    Jordan Peterson is the NEW Greek Philosopher of Universal value, universal truth, absolute objectivity (in its probably, at times, temporary findings and allegations). I absolutely LOVE HIM and I follow him through his books, speeches - including this one. Brilliant! ONLY THE TRUTH will save us.

    • @steven5054
      @steven5054 Год назад +2

      The ultimate Sophist, in the modern sense.

  • @electranspower
    @electranspower Год назад +18

    Wow! This is incredible. What a great event!

    • @dewijlr
      @dewijlr 6 месяцев назад +1

      Yes Wow! Wonderful!

  • @kerebaka
    @kerebaka Год назад +9

    Here we have just been served the Good, the True, and the Beautiful.

  • @thomaskraus5125
    @thomaskraus5125 Год назад +4

    Jordan Peterson discussions are instrumental in leading individuals to higher levels of consciousness and higher degree of logical reasoning.

  • @craignedoff991
    @craignedoff991 Год назад +16

    An honest man.
    An intelligent man.
    A man of integrity.
    I see how hell hates him,
    And Heaven adores him.
    God bless all the good people of the earth.

  • @mourningdovefilms
    @mourningdovefilms Год назад +7

    "We're built for the adventure of our lives." And your adventure, Dr. Peterson, has been to enjoin us to begin our own!

  • @OccamsRazor393
    @OccamsRazor393 Год назад +8

    This is wonderful, thankyou Ralston College!

  • @Alexamdern
    @Alexamdern Год назад +19

    Beautiful. Instead of passively standing by while things are moving in the wrong direction Jordan Peterson is actively doing what he can with his motivations to make things better.

    • @steven5054
      @steven5054 Год назад

      And making bank too!

    • @Alexamdern
      @Alexamdern Год назад +2

      @@steven5054 Well, if all you think about is money then you clearly will never get any.

    • @jamescarr4662
      @jamescarr4662 Год назад

      He is a sinister charlatan devoid of any scholarly credibility whatsoever. A joke figure.

  • @nicsunderlandbaker
    @nicsunderlandbaker Год назад +17

    Thank you for making this available! The energy and the silence comes through the high-quality video. I wonder how long ago Dr. Blackwood had this idea to have Dr. Peterson lecture here.

  • @HunterWC123
    @HunterWC123 Год назад +4

    This is deeper than you have ever gone with it

  • @udoyxyz
    @udoyxyz Год назад +3

    The stage is epic. Wow

  • @mathewhill5556
    @mathewhill5556 Год назад +4

    Wonderful presentation.

    • @vixendixon6943
      @vixendixon6943 Год назад

      Been to Ephesus so many times but now I realise never really in spirit.

  • @HunterWC123
    @HunterWC123 Год назад +1

    I’ve been watching you for years now. Thank you

  • @HunterWC123
    @HunterWC123 Год назад +2

    Spot on. God bless you

  • @AQ-uc4bb
    @AQ-uc4bb Год назад +1

    My favorite Teacher. Well one of my favorites = )

  • @pacificmari6367
    @pacificmari6367 Год назад +1

    Have just read Dr Peterson's excellent 12 Rules, so scrolling through YT I was struck by the title Logos / Ephesus and decided to Wikipedia both words first... it referred to a book/letter in the New Testament which to my amazed mind was exuding affection and tenderness... about a 'logos - the divine Christ - giving a destiny in love... giving power and desire to explore and draw on 'the riches of his immeasurable grace and love... surpassing knowledge (not experience)... 'awakening from the shadows...being renewed in spirit...reverencing those around'. And then finding out that the author - St Paul - spent 3 years elaborating on these and other ideas - and living them out in community for 3 years in Ephesus... and then the deep grief/appreciation the Ephesians showed Paul when he finally had to move on. It all made my hair stand on end and wonder.
    I wonder why, in such a place, JP went off in such an conceptual tangent - yes, sometimes it is genuinely useful to abstract out, but it seems to me the title & place invites something more earthed, something potentially more stable and joyful.

  • @Unexpectedperspectivesnow
    @Unexpectedperspectivesnow Год назад +2

    it surprices me that this video doesn't have more views.

  • @petepoli50
    @petepoli50 Год назад +4

    This is really fantastic

  • @deborahbabcock5309
    @deborahbabcock5309 Год назад +1

    What a brilliant man

  • @evo1ov3
    @evo1ov3 Год назад +2

    Being and Becoming. Was just thinking about that the other day. Yeeeeup... That's the big one. When it comes to the first principles of western philosophy. Can't get any simpler than that.

  • @OldEnglandCathedral
    @OldEnglandCathedral Год назад +4

    very beautiful

  • @derrickkhroun
    @derrickkhroun Год назад +1

    Jordan B. Peterson 🙌💪😎👑👏✨

  • @franciscomartinez-up9lq
    @franciscomartinez-up9lq Год назад +4

    Thank you Dr Peterson for teaching knowledge

  • @AQ-uc4bb
    @AQ-uc4bb Год назад

    Much Love and Respect Sir.

  • @gregorymoats4007
    @gregorymoats4007 Год назад +2

    What appeared to be a cat limping was priceless…

  • @motivationsamuraiofficial
    @motivationsamuraiofficial 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wow, amazing speech!

  • @yogibear9607
    @yogibear9607 Год назад +3

    What a wonderful man. I sometimes struggle with my Faith and question it perhaps I’m getting caught up in supposed expert’s Big Bang theory? but as soon as I hear Jordan speak It comes back without question. Messenger sent from above☝🏼🤓

  • @TheOnlyPLatinum
    @TheOnlyPLatinum Год назад

    Splendid!

  • @janurbanek1127
    @janurbanek1127 Год назад +3

    Its nice to see Jordan develop .. one can really hear John Vervaeky, Ian McGilchrist (probably spelled both wrong :D ) and other of his dialogue partners.

    • @mills8102
      @mills8102 Год назад

      He is starting to catch up, as am I.

  • @mills8102
    @mills8102 Год назад +2

    Diogenes is still heckling
    Woof woof woof

  • @JBlasAR
    @JBlasAR Год назад +4

    He has more pull in faith than most priest have while giving a sermon

    • @Imitatechrist
      @Imitatechrist 4 месяца назад

      That's what makes him so unique, in today's world, in his profession especially.

  • @Zoomo2697
    @Zoomo2697 Год назад +1

    “Humility is dependence on God as pride is independence of Him. The humble soul is always the thankful soul.”
    - Fulton J. Sheen

  • @drewsinn976
    @drewsinn976 Год назад +2

    It has to be torturous to see that clearly and communicate in hopes a mere fraction can comprehend let alone live in a manner that rings the maximal good from one’s soul.

    • @vixendixon6943
      @vixendixon6943 Год назад

      Existential Existence

    • @davidpeet3863
      @davidpeet3863 Год назад +2

      Yes - it’s an incredible unflinching assessment of his view of our circumstances and our potential. I tend to think he has ‘found it’ rather than ‘thought of it’ - And yes, beautifully
      put, a mere fraction will understand what he is saying, or grasp the truly momentous message. And perhaps no one at all will take up the challenge it faces each one of us with. And that includes Jordan. He has quoted Nietzsche as saying ‘there was only one Christian and that was Jesus Christ’ Jordan has said he himself is ‘terrified’ of what a human being may become if they ‘100 per cent believed’, Jordan says he thinks it would be a ‘ completely transfiguring experience’ and he has said ‘we do not know what we might become’ because we have not ‘run the programme’ - and that as a clinical psychologist that’s what you do to test a hypothesis ‘you run the programme’ so I’m wondering if Jordan is ‘running the programme’ with his own life - he is a phenomenal human being already - complete, I’m sure, with feet of clay - how else do you know what it really means to stand up? And then comes the moment when you realise you were standing up all along. That’s the theory anyway! Earth moving lecture tbh.

  • @royaebrahim2449
    @royaebrahim2449 Год назад

  • @thomasshepheard9741
    @thomasshepheard9741 Год назад +4

    Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is most definitely a prophet of God; of the highest order. Thank God that He places people in history when they are most needed. I am a believer and a son of God, and Jordan Peterson is my brother. I pray for him continually.

    • @jamescarr4662
      @jamescarr4662 Год назад +2

      You should know that he literally believes God to be a fictional character. He is an intellectual charlatan of the highest order.

    • @dmcgwhisper5945
      @dmcgwhisper5945 Год назад

      @@jamescarr4662
      Psalm 139
      23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
      24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

  • @janaenae1338
    @janaenae1338 Год назад

    💥

  • @Unexpectedperspectivesnow
    @Unexpectedperspectivesnow Год назад +3

    59:53 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @francescoielmoni3702
    @francescoielmoni3702 Год назад +1

    I have the idea that one spirit speak trough DR Peterson, and this spirit is God

  • @thomaskraus5125
    @thomaskraus5125 Год назад +1

    We need to encourage children to keep journals and write in a free style or free association manner about their abservations about the world they live in and what they would do to make it better.
    Writing is thinking on paper. The sooner we get children to write about what they think the more we get people in every age group develope throughout their lives the habit of journaling their insight, observations and feeling the more conscious our civilization can become and the more well ordered our political systems and social constructs or means of solving social problems.
    We might consider as part of psychotherapy to have patients write or free associate on paper before counseling. sessions.
    And have patients share past writing from private journals or class assignments or published articles as a means of developing society wide a higher level of consciousness.
    Democratic civilizations should strive for higher consciousness among their citizens if they wish to promote higher freedom conjoined with higher individual and social responsibility.
    And as we get people to write more we will have to encourage people to write by hand not just type on computer or typewriter because hand written letters help people develope and hold on to longer term memories which facilitate higher levels of consciousness.
    Encouraging people to write more by hand possibly handing in both hand written essays and typed pages of the same hand written essays will help prevent altimers syndrome especially if we make a conscious effort to join physical fitness with psychological fitness and increase physical activity and reduce sedandary behavior as much as possible.
    Hand written intellectual exercises can help people develope a higher degree of moral reasoning which if done civilization wide could lead to truly freer societies serving to preserve Democratic Societies.

  • @kingsman8475
    @kingsman8475 Год назад

    In Star Trek, third season, Mr. Spock made a statement very similar to this. The episode "Spectre of the Gun." Star Trek ahead of the times and Mr. Spock!

  • @ericblack1127
    @ericblack1127 Год назад +1

    If Ralston College is an alternative college, why does Ralston College not have a channel on Rumble and other alternative sites?

    • @gregorymoats4007
      @gregorymoats4007 Год назад +1

      You’ve just answered your own question…

    • @rjwasser8312
      @rjwasser8312 Год назад +4

      Have you considered reaching out to the college and asking that question for yourself? It’s no small task creating a new college: perhaps that detail slipped their mind.
      Hanlon’s Razor: never attribute to malice what you can otherwise attribute to ignorance.

  • @obiarnold9498
    @obiarnold9498 Год назад

  • @SoloDallas
    @SoloDallas Год назад +4

    PLEASE notice how he cries (literally) at the end. If you THINK he's crying for some lighthearted, foolish reason - I will leave you where you are and to you, I won't speak to anymore - for you are a waste of my time. No. Jordan cries because he GRASPED, wholly, the immense risk our world has come to. As few, if any possibly, he sees humanity - throughout history, then and now - and he sees that the moment to act the change is now - pending doom and self-destruction (which has happened again and again in the history of humanity). He SEES the destruction, pending on us - and he fears it. At the same time, he longs for self-actuation, for the necessity of completing ourselves and fully actuating our potential - literally crying for us to awake to the need for that of each one of us. If this doesn't shake you, doesn't move you, doesn't make you reflect - again - I have no further need to speak to you nor I will listen back. To the others - we'll have to find our own way to deal with all of this -

    • @steven5054
      @steven5054 Год назад +1

      Or he just has a Messiah complex

  • @anthonytroia1
    @anthonytroia1 Год назад

    My favorite part was the cat loafing in the background.

  • @kantraxoikol6914
    @kantraxoikol6914 Год назад +2

    he's speaking to like 30 people, kind of nice! also , i'd like to know what those ruins he's speaking in IS.

    • @vixendixon6943
      @vixendixon6943 Год назад +1

      Check out the thumbnail for the location details.

  • @gregoryforde7447
    @gregoryforde7447 Год назад

    Thanks Gentlemen, we'll done.

  • @jeradjones9306
    @jeradjones9306 Год назад

    YJMJR : Jordan Peterson is a Johny come lately

  • @michaelbuffton1614
    @michaelbuffton1614 Год назад

    "There aren't that many wheeled rats."
    - Dr. Jordan Peterson at Ralston College in Savannah, Georgia on August 31, 2022

  • @jessemontano762
    @jessemontano762 Год назад

    And our place in the cosmos, and our purpose is:.......

  • @HunterWC123
    @HunterWC123 Год назад

    I’m awake

  • @user-so4kh5xu3z
    @user-so4kh5xu3z 10 месяцев назад

    Jordan, God is love. We don't need to pay anything to Him. We do His commands because we love Him, not because we want pay for the sin of Adam and Eve. It is written in Old Testament by a prophet that ''God wants mercy than animal sacrificies''.
    It is like a father and a son. If a son behaves unfairly, will ever a Father say ''you offended me, you have to pay''? Or He might just say ''my boy is too young and immature''. To conclude, we fast and pray so that we become worthy of His endless love. God doesn't require anything from us, except as you said, to become what we can' the act of becoming the best version of ourselves. So, the meaning of the gospel is joyful because Christ is risen and we have to follow His path of love to join Him eventually and eternally.

  • @singingforchrist
    @singingforchrist Год назад

    God was definitely showing off when He made Jordan Peterson…

  • @markmclendon8621
    @markmclendon8621 Год назад

    sad: EVERYBODY in the world won't get the message

  • @RMGP96
    @RMGP96 6 месяцев назад

    M A S T E R C L A S S

  • @mitchstacey34
    @mitchstacey34 Год назад +2

    Damn wtf he talkin bout patterns n shyt

  • @johnnywilley8522
    @johnnywilley8522 8 месяцев назад +2

    perfect example of both how Sincere and how Wrong a person can be; the question of "truth" is different from the implicit need for vision & hope that Person instills in his disciples - so I suspect there's a nihilism at the heart of Peterson? - i mean, isn't this revealed in his own personal struggles? or is the ad hominem not allowed here? how long can a bubble float before being popped?

  • @johnnywilley8522
    @johnnywilley8522 8 месяцев назад

    never trust someone who defends "reality" by asking "it depends on how you define reality" - same mistake Jung made as Foucault made. Both Freud & Language philosophy are equally detrimental to direct thought. By beginning with a false problem - the problem of perception - he's able to route his audience into a fake kind of conclusion. it turns out you & your interlocutors are not only "not right" but you are not even wrong.

  • @johnnywilley8522
    @johnnywilley8522 8 месяцев назад +1

    He invokes the Greeks but fails to recognize the Aristotelian. If one reads the Nicomachean Ethics with any degree of comprehension, that is, in a good translation, and one is reading directly - you discover a fine rebuttal to Dr Peterson. In fact, Plato & Christianity do not have a monopoly over interpreting the perennial brilliance of our Greek progenitors. We cannot taste or see or even comprehend what he means by "underlying pattern" - it doesn't really make any more sense in Greek than it does in Kant, except as a refusal to accept Hume's conclusions. What he dismisses as "behaviorism" or "postmodernism" are two ways of contending with this, not merely denying it, or reducing it. Peterson ought to be careful about what he expresses antipathy towards, as that is what is dead in his own heart.

  • @maxxx2k
    @maxxx2k Год назад

    22:30 As The Great Patrice O'neal would say JP with the 'sneak medicine', like Jeffrey Gurian. If u kno, u kno.

    • @maxxx2k
      @maxxx2k Год назад

      Jordan, if you're reading this... I see what you're doing but give it to these bitches raw. It might not taste good but it's what they need. Be the Father.

    • @maxxx2k
      @maxxx2k Год назад

      Most of the this true for Man but not Woman. And you know this Jordan. 30:00

  • @thechickencoop7840
    @thechickencoop7840 Год назад

    JP is the prophet of our day...and he doesn't even know it.

  • @antikotocerepa
    @antikotocerepa Год назад

    Hail to the wheeled rats!

  • @MrjackieG
    @MrjackieG Год назад

    Peterson is crazy but that is simply my opinion. Peterson is in over his head. Contrary to Peterson the world did not come from chaos. That which is, cannot come from that which is not. Everyone knows that except JP.

  • @thomasj4370
    @thomasj4370 Год назад +3

    lol Lobster God Values paralleled by stacked obviousness garnished with anecdotes and frolicking fantasies about social science.

    • @revermightstar8004
      @revermightstar8004 Год назад

      I don't think the "obviousness" is so obvious to new atheists, obvious enough to apply it to science.

    • @thomasj4370
      @thomasj4370 Год назад

      @@revermightstar8004 there could be some operational blindness on my side.

  • @alfreddeahl7374
    @alfreddeahl7374 4 месяца назад

    also bit cringe reading lecture notes on a phone

  • @nicsunderlandbaker
    @nicsunderlandbaker Год назад +1

    Am I crazy or is his delivery of the lecture influenced by Ye? The growling

  • @michaelmardian1652
    @michaelmardian1652 Год назад +4

    What a word salad. I can bare it no longer. Does he really say anything?

  • @edg4119
    @edg4119 Год назад +2

    What a farrago of nonsense. Likely regurgitating whatever the AI bot was sending to his phone. Is that an insult to AI bots?

  • @alfreddeahl7374
    @alfreddeahl7374 4 месяца назад

    incoherent nonsense - this is peterson at his worst.

  • @kantraxoikol6914
    @kantraxoikol6914 9 месяцев назад

    i really cannot understand how people don't understand this man , it's not like he speaks inchoherently :P