2021 National Hill Climb Championship: Men
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Promoted by Rutland CC on behalf of Cycling Time Trials
Winnats Pass, Derbyshire, England
Sunday 31 October 2021
Weather: 9C and continuous heavy rain
For women's event see: • 2021 National Hill Cli...
Video kit:
Fuji X-S10 with 16-80mm and 70-300mm lenses
Sennheiser MK200 mic
GoPro Hero 8 Black with Media Mod
...a towel to keep the rain off.
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Captured all the pain and passion and quirks of this event! Engaging viewing - it could have been filmed in 1950, 1980 or 2021. Timeless.
Noticed the brilliant capturing as well. Sublime filming
Truly artistic film. Love the style; it’s quintessentially British through and through. Chapeau !
for 55 yrs, bearings and chain efficiency have imrpoved significantly. also bike weight are reduced to half but the 1966 record still stands
what a beast that man is!
Record was broken
@@joeshillabeer7707 But still, the man in 1966 was an uber beast!
I think that record is suspect..... No chance there is a guy in '66 who was beating these guys who ride 20,000km a year on carbon featherweight bikes.
@@2011hwalker may have been the most raging of tailwinds.
otherwise, yes, something amiss.
Lighter bikes, less friction, weaker legs
I'm only watching but I also feel motivated just listening to the bystanders.
Hill climbs are exciting events even for the bystanders.
All hail the beast that held the record since '66!
No shit huh that is one strong bastard
And, no doubt on a steel bike.
With all the technology that we have now
@@jojiedagohoy3700 Well to be fair, they have access to real good narcotics in the 60s :D God Bless Pantani's soul
Just a quick search shows Peter Greenhaalgh on the cover of CYCLING MAGAZINE BACK ISSUE 5/11/1966. "Pete tames Winnats". What a beast. Shows that you need legs, heart and lungs and not fancy gear.
The guy who set the record that has stood since 1966... that man is a stud. Consider the difference in bikes... Look at what they are riding here... He had an old heavy steel bike... Competitors for the past twenty years have had the lightest carbon possible and bikes designed to optimize climbing... Hats off to the old guard.
The only takeaway is that there was fuckery afoot.
Probably not as heavy as you think.
my thought was that there was probably literally a storm blowing 50 knots up his arse.
Yeah..
Love the raw footage! The UK hill climbing science is lit 🔥
Really beautifully shot and edited, it really captures the unique nature of the discipline, the grandeur of the landscape and the personality of the spectators and riders. Loved it, thank you.
Brilliant video that. I've cycled Winnats a number of times so I know how difficult it is.
Hardcore...this is tough enough in the dry, wheel must be slipping everywhere in that rain!
Thanks so much for posting... it looks amazing and utterly hideously vomit inducing hard in equal measure! Hats off to all who took part and the crowd!
Horrendous conditions for extreme hill climbing. Props to those guys.
these look super ideal
I’ve climbed Winnats (slowly) a few times. Gets steeper as you go up, and every pedal stroke becomes hell. Always buzzin at the top though.
These guys are animals, well done all.
Am from Sheffield and do this climb loads in the summer. It’s a def 34/32 climb for me!
I’m from south Lincolnshire and it’s pretty flat bar a few short “bumps” and I still have a 11/34 😂😂
tried it in the 80s on a 42 23 and a nonstop line of cars on my back wheel so couldnt weave got about halfway up after that i always went thro edale and over the back mam tor
It's very similar to watching a mountain stage of any Grand Tour! Great event and great video
in the GT's they ride at threshold.
@@nonfictionone go away with your geekiness - I do not know what "riding at threshold" is and I hope I never will ;) Great video and great atmosphere - this I do understand :)
@@nonfictionone most GT mountain goats wouldn't win over 3 minutes against the winners of these events. A completely different kind of effort!
@@BasementArthurSpooner Totally agree. Having said that Pogacar would probably win it. He's got the power to win monuments.
@@BasementArthurSpooner I think that Van Der Poel or Alaphilippe may be the only ones who would be able to compete. They obviously have great 1-5 min power, however, I’m not even sure if they’d be able to win.
This was the type of thing I craved back in the day, when I was on top form. Now, I'm content just to watch :)
To even get up there is massive !!!
Congrats to everyone.
Amazing climb and the record stood since 1966!
Cocaine’s a hell of a drug
@@Totalavulsion 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Totalavulsion if that’s the case it should have been beaten in the 80’s
@@Totalavulsion The opium was fantastic in 66
Great footage, thanks for sharing!
Thanks for posting, was a great event!!
A flame motif on the shorts would be good because all their quads must be on fire!
wanna be good enough to ride this next year. great vid
My knees hurt just watching that ;)
Chapeau that man fantastic footage 👏
Forget the cyclist and their hill climb, carrying your significant other on either going up or down the hill, now that is a BEAST !
just a beautiful event
very cool
Rain in England - as always. ;) But good crowds!
salute for the crowd
Awesome. A killer of a hill. Respect to all.
4:18 Pure Gold
What a great time was had by all
tom with the helmet too lol lad
flexin
English athletes are fuckin hardcore!!!!Respect from Greece!!!!!!!
Needs more cowbell
Bravissimi tutti
I like netizen the way to give support
Considering the improvements in bike technology and athlete preparation since 1966 that previous record holder must have been a freak
give him a modern climbing bike, sure he'll beat his own record
time
Would like to see this on the Wall in Philly
Oh the pain on their faces but the power put out
Hell ye 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾, climbers are the best.
dit zouden we in Nederland ook moeten doen!
Camerig? :)
Another Rim brake Win!
A lot to gather from this bike. Cannondale SuperSix EVO Nano. Ultegra 6800 crankset. Bars cut. 1x, adujustable non proprietary seatpost and cockpit. Shallow section carbon rims. Durianrider would be proud.
You wouldn’t say that if you saw what we saw on the day with someone screaming “Stop meeeeeeeeee” on the way down. 😂😂😂 (obviously the rim brakes aren’t your standard tim brakes though, superlight)
@@KOMHuntTV Really one guy had an issue with his brakes. Rim brakes have been working fine in the tour de France for decades.... Now suddenly they don't work sufficiently well in the rain... Who knew?!
Respect guys 👍
Top gurning 🤘
Brutal...Pain faces
Cycled up there this September with panniers, tent and backpack on a hybrid. Didn't even know it was famous for this. Started to realise it was a beast when some lean cyclists came by and said 'you're brave carrying that lot up here'!
Wow interesting race! How many miles is the course ?
900 metres with 128 metres elevation gain
9/16 miles. :)
Looks horrific., well done to all who had a crack.
Ok, so the record is still from 1966! So does that mean that someone will have to try it with a steel bike using a 42 x 21 gearing as used in those early days. I mean geez, why hasn’t the record been crushed with 6.8 kg bikes and the gearing available today. Invite a few young cyclists from Colombia and see what happens. Thanks for the video. Kudos to all the riders here!
The top 3 riders all got inside the 1966 time. Record was reduced from 3m11s to 3m01s.
Qué grandes estos ingleses
What's up with the tail lights? I would have been pissed if I was behind one of those
Mandatory for this event.
Hill Climbing + Rain = 🥵🥵🥵
Wonder what time Egan or Primoz would do.
Primoz might get in the top 10 . I watched Tom Piddcock do Monsall which is just around the corner and he's Olympic Champion @ Mtb, CX champion , Team Sky etc and at the end he was asking the top guys how they get to ride so quick uphill, I can't recall where he finished but he way off the pace. He was quicker than me though !
if they trained for it and took seriously probably could crush it. but it would interfere with their normal training so unlikely would ever be attempted while still riding pro.
Didnt pantani competed here?
Great video, but why don't you have any trees there???
Winnats is managed with sheep grazing to create a good habitat for certain rare plants. This stops trees taking over.
Ah, my soaking wet body (camera and human) appears at 5m 49s 😂😂 horrendous conditions!
5:49
That looks absolutely horrible.
I want to do it.
There's one aroundthe corner from this called Pym's Chair run by Macclesfield Cycling Club, that's the one to do, makes this look easy.
Disc brakes ftw!!!!
what the heck was that dude riding back in 66?
belgian mix
He was a good rider in great form.
A massive tail wind! 😃
He had a 8.5 kilos,bike and a great set of legs and lungs.
A glitch in nature
some fine English weather for ya ;)
RIM BRAKES FOR LIFE!!!!!!
rim brake for broke.
@@haranglouis5252 You must be a Newbie, hence not too bright.
Ever since 1966 no one can beat the record? What's the point of those ultra light carbon bike then?
The 1966 guy was a pretty good rider however the top two in the event shown in this video did both beat the 1966 time.
Do the organizers do doping tests on the competitors? Anyone know?
Not routinely. Governing body CTT (Cycling Time Trials) does budget for dope testing. Testers show up for some but by no means all national championships. Doping is a very minor issue in UK amateur TTing where the financial rewards are essentially zero. Known cases are few and far between.
@@Millerbike01 thanks
Quintessential English weather. Seems like it's like this every day
The sun came out after the event finished.
So could a pro like Sepp Kuss just jump into this race and take first place?
Interesting question, we'd all like to see that happen. He might but I don't think it would be a given.
No. But definitely top 10
@@BasementArthurSpooner Really? I think you may be underestimating his ability. He won a mountain stage in the 2021 Tour De France! My guess is he takes first place pretty easily, but I'm no expert!
@@dannyzuehlsdorf3697 I don't mean to sound rude but clearly you aren't an expert. It's a different kind of effort completely to being a world class GT rider with incredible climbing ability and stamina. If anything top track stars, sprinters and puncheurs like Pog, Ala, Aert and MVDP have better chance of winning and even then it not a given.
The guy who finished second here averaged 570-580w for 3:08mins and is top 10 up Alp D'Huez and trains for these specific efforts. I doubt any of them would break onto the podium. If they trained in the same way for these efforts of course they'd be contending for the win but they don't.
@@BasementArthurSpooner well said, thank you.
Amateur sport is alive and well and living in England 👍....Couple of those Blokes looked shell shocked after that 😆....
I googled "F%ckin' Miserable" and this video came up...
No helmet race, old school rules!
That's miserable even without the rain 😞
55 year old record, nothing has changed in cycling since then
this took 3 minutes to climb?
For the top rider, yes. Most much slower.
I did one once in Worcestshire,only once was enough.
Why are some riders not wearing helmets?
Save on weight i expect.
@@hcw199 not a uci event..its not a legal requirement
Brutal
I'd rather be home in the warmth watching TV.
Length and av% for the climb??
900m, 12.9% average
when weight is everything why are so many riders riding with lights?
Rear lights mandatory for this class of event.
@@Millerbike01 surprising...on such a short event. what is the light for?
@@tomwills5485 some events, and not only hill climbs, take place on open roads with other traffic. Rear light is for visibility to other road users.
yeaaaaaaa this almost makes me not want to ride today
1:05 so badass
Ikie lombane piye to, coba tolong kasih tahu ya 🤭🚴
Riders are set off at 30 second intervals. The person who takes the least time to reach the top of the climb is the winner.
@@Millerbike01 Ohh thanks, for ur info Dude 🙏🚴
ahhhh. rim brakes.
Was a great effort in horrendous conditions. But it got worse. As soon as 'the man' won, the crowds thinned out at the finish line. The support for the women was a little disappointing (if not highly predictable). Sigh...
Why didn't they do the Women's event before the Men's then?
Have a watch of this, it's the women's event: ruclips.net/video/HUdDvxcFi1M/видео.html
No one is interested in watching Women play at sports. They compete at high school boys level.
@@Millerbike01 thanks for sharing shows how bullshit that other comment was
Any footage of the juniors?
Sorry, I wasn't there early on.
@@Millerbike01 no problem 👍
Why do they remove the bar tape?
Bar tape is extra needless weight as is gloves.
Why no aero disc brake bikes? Surely deploying the latest in bicycle tech would make these guys even faster?
Aero is more important that weight at these speeds. Look a the science the bike industry has provided.
An 8kg system six with 30mm tires at 70psi is faster anywhere than a 5kg rim brake supersix evo from 2011.
This comment only makes sense when you see who made it 🤣
I dont care if people dont want to wear a helmet or not, but are they not required in this event? where I ride almost every cyclist has a helmet
Every hill climber is a weight weennie.
Not mandatory for this class of event.
u must live a sheltered life mate
@@djrobbo3929 what makes you think that?
@@adaml5473 cos on estates no one wears hats
I see 1x gearing
No drug restrictions in the '60s then?
How about some context? Distance, gradient, elevation, times, etc?
It's in the video but: 900m length, 128m height rise, winning time just outside 3 minutes, good hill climb riders taking around 4 minutes, many much slower.
Not worse than san francisco climbs, especially potrero with its 22% climb. This looks like fun lol
As a English lad that moved from Bolton, about 40 miles from Winnats Pass, to Vacaville, about 45 miles from SF and have ridden and raced bikes for a good number of years I can say that Winnats is far harder than something like Potrero hill. The road surface is worse and the elevation gain is more than double. Winnats gains about 700ft whereas Potrero is about 300ft high total. Winnats, due to the east to west direction of the climb, nearly always had a headwind from the prevailing wind and that was nicely funneled down the hill by the impressive hills on either side.
I miss the long 'end of winter' club runs that would go over Snake Pass, down to the Hope Valley, through Edale and up Mam Tor, which itself is a beast and then down, turn around and back up and over Winnats.
The only climb that hurts me the same way that Winnats ever did in the Bay is Mix Canyon Rd just outside of Vacaville. Jonathan Vaughters, after racing up it in 2003, said it was as hard as the infamous Spanish climb the Alto de L'Angliru.
Mix Canyon is a short but very challenging climb near Vacaville, California and is the eighth steepest 2.5 mile road bike climb segment in the U.S., and the steepest in California. The grade increases with each mile - the first mile is 5.8%, mile two is 8.8%, mile three is 12.8% and, finally, the coup de grace: a whopping 13.4% for mile four. There's also a nice section midway through that last mile, when you come off the hairpin, that's over 20% for longer than you'd care for. Mile 2 and 3 don't sound that bad but it's not a steady climb, low gradient sections peppered with steep sections. Due to the lack of wind in the canyon most days, only the foolish climb it after midday in the summer when temps are often over 100F and regularly exceed 125F on the asphalt.
Ouch 😵
The reason that record has been not broken is they havent done the race there since 77.
That said I feel the timing was off. No way someone on a single speed steel bike is going to be only 11seconds slower than these guys who are busting out watts that suggest EPO usage.
These events are timed carefully. The 1966 time is valid.
Nope.Not for me....But going downhill...
It doesn't say a lot for the current bike technologies and training methods of today if the record was set in 1966, only to be beaten finally after 55 years by 10 secs. 1 sec every decade! Do we really need all this technology??
could probably ride a single speed if grade is constant. wonder how robert miller would have done.
@Vegan's R Silly puff 😱 most men "boys" these days wouldn't know what that meant? They would probably think it was a breakfast cereal 🤫 I wont tell anyone what you meant 😉
@Vegan's R Silly I can tell
To be fair the Championships hadn't been held there since 1977, so the record was only contested however many times the event went back to Winnats between '66 and 77*. It's not like they've been going back every year trying to beat it...
[Googles] after '66 it was only held there in '67, '72 and '77...
The course is less than a Kilometre long for starters and at that gradient, technology isn't going to help that much..... hill climbing like this is all about raw power and how long your legs/lungs can last at VO Max. The Sixties record lasted as long as it did, mainly because the course hasn't been used to hold the competition for the last thirty odd years.
Are the back lights in the rules?
Yes. HCs are classed as time-trials and the rules are laid down by CTT, the governing body for road time trials. Rear lights became mandatory a few years ago. They make sense for a 10 or a 25 on an open public road, not so much for a HC on a closed road, but there isn't an exemption.
1966? Must be a typo.
looks like a properly disgusting day for it
Some are going deep into the "ugly face."
#NoDiscs