Top 10 Most Powerful Formable Nations in EU4

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  • @AlzaboHD
    @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +166

    What formable nations do you enjoy playing? Do you enjoy playing top tier formable nations? Do you agree with my list? Let me know! If y'all want to see my Theodoro to Roman Empire world conquest (mentioned in the video) check it out here: ruclips.net/video/SG0s2lKImro/видео.html. Let me know if y'all have any recommendations for the next category of EU4 "top 10" videos!

    • @leneldraws7887
      @leneldraws7887 6 лет назад +22

      My favorite formable nation is the commonwealth. Calvary power, decent expansion routes, and in the early game the ability to cripple Scandinavia or Russia.

    • @jmenonejake9374
      @jmenonejake9374 6 лет назад +15

      GERMANY!!!

    • @GugSport
      @GugSport 6 лет назад +2

      Great video, but I think the Mongol Empire is coming out with 1.27 on Monday, so perhaps waiting a couple more days could've be worth it.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +2

      Are the Mongol Empire ideas anywhere online? I saw the Ilkhanate's ideas which weren't that impressive, if the Mongol Empire is an end tag I''m sure they will be strong!

    • @octavius9990
      @octavius9990 6 лет назад +4

      Golden Horde, Japan, Commonwealth ❤️

  • @bloodjunkie1919
    @bloodjunkie1919 6 лет назад +1994

    *1 5 0 % D I S C I P L I N E*

    • @kaaz1010
      @kaaz1010 3 года назад

      *Preussens Gloria B L A S T S*

  • @mackycabangon8945
    @mackycabangon8945 6 лет назад +1501

    #1 Iceland

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +185

      Too bad they have generic national ideas - shameful display! Seriously, Paradox, Iceland needs ideas!

    • @potatogamer1877
      @potatogamer1877 6 лет назад +7

      Lovely macky

    • @alanetchetto8908
      @alanetchetto8908 6 лет назад +132

      Iceland ideas:
      Penis museum: +1 prestige
      Description: don't ask... (??

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +120

      I may or may not have been to the museum. The first rule of the museum: don't talk about the penis museum.

    • @sanskaarkulkarni1036
      @sanskaarkulkarni1036 4 года назад +1

      NO ITS SCANDANAVIA ALL THE WAY!!

  • @P0t3st4s
    @P0t3st4s 6 лет назад +608

    You forgot one more important aspect of the Mughal buff: if you own the south of india you can release Deccan as a vassal to obtain +10adm efficiency and they are guaranteed to have low liberty desire. You can feed them tons of land with minimal trouble, making your WC even easier.

    • @ahmetsaidalkur50
      @ahmetsaidalkur50 6 лет назад +11

      unless ai vassal gets his absolutism high you will not profit from his admin efficiency, and ai is terrible at getting absolutism especially if they are a vassal, so no, making a vassal and feeding that vassal as mughals is unnecessary, who needs vassals when you have 80% ccr

    • @behska3487
      @behska3487 6 лет назад +33

      You gain the 10 admin efficiency yourself by releasing that specific vassal, which is why you do it. Feeding it is just an optional bonus.

    • @tjaenig
      @tjaenig 6 лет назад +4

      @dag natten could you please explain this to me? how do you get 10 admin efficiency by doing this?

    • @revilorere
      @revilorere 6 лет назад +13

      mission

    • @tjaenig
      @tjaenig 6 лет назад +2

      you gain 10 admin efficency that way? i will check this today

  • @rytherykalan8655
    @rytherykalan8655 5 лет назад +576

    Number 1 should be Italy
    They have the power to switch sides

    • @GRANFRA99
      @GRANFRA99 4 года назад

      Xd

    • @0rangevlad
      @0rangevlad 4 года назад

      Hahahahaaha no

    • @pecha6339
      @pecha6339 4 года назад

      World wars flashbacks

    • @pseudotaco
      @pseudotaco 4 года назад

      @@0rangevlad Hahahahaaha yes

    • @0rangevlad
      @0rangevlad 4 года назад +2

      @@pecha6339 word wars? Wtf is word wars

  • @stratigangames508
    @stratigangames508 6 лет назад +246

    1:39 That is one sexy burgundy

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +20

      Ron Burgundy would be proud

    • @yuripantyhose4973
      @yuripantyhose4973 6 лет назад +5

      Know what graphjic mod he uses? the borders and provinces look so nice

  • @emmy9345
    @emmy9345 6 лет назад +633

    1. Mughals
    2. Yuan
    3. Prussia
    4. Roman Empire
    5. Italy
    6. Rum
    7. Empire Russia
    8. Commonwealth
    9. Netherlands
    10. Deccan
    Saved you a quarter of an hour.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +166

      Thanks for saving me some time!

    • @Giganfan2k1
      @Giganfan2k1 6 лет назад +36

      Yeah but why are those good?

    • @baboongotmyspoon9973
      @baboongotmyspoon9973 6 лет назад +25

      >quarter of an hour

    • @live2winnn
      @live2winnn 6 лет назад

      0. Kazakh khanate

    • @emmy9345
      @emmy9345 6 лет назад

      @@OlGregge can I have some Bailey's fam

  • @tymonm452
    @tymonm452 6 лет назад +182

    When I was playing Prussia i conquered China before i conquered France so yeah... they have quiet powerful army

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +60

      Your Prussia must look alot like Russia to reach China!

    • @andgames9805
      @andgames9805 4 года назад +14

      @@AlzaboHD P_RUSSIA

  • @MaximusLight
    @MaximusLight 6 лет назад +226

    Form the HRE as Prussia, nothing will ever stop.

    • @杨军-y9b
      @杨军-y9b 5 лет назад +5

      polish can remove it before1450

    • @HVLLOW99
      @HVLLOW99 2 года назад

      True

  • @Bill-nd3ow
    @Bill-nd3ow 6 лет назад +967

    Number One
    *_Ulm_*

    • @MrTohawk
      @MrTohawk 6 лет назад +40

      If Ulm were formable.

    • @keelanmckay6332
      @keelanmckay6332 6 лет назад

      K

    • @nETbKaH
      @nETbKaH 6 лет назад +5

      Ulm is not formable.

    • @linards45
      @linards45 6 лет назад +10

      Oh yes the ULM a.k.a. - Union of Lesbian Man
      Best nation in the game!

    • @casuallyfilth
      @casuallyfilth 6 лет назад +5

      Ulm can be whatever the hell it wants

  • @dracothegreat1950
    @dracothegreat1950 6 лет назад +423

    They should add fictional formable nations as well. Like a Celtic Empire, formed by Scotland or one of the Irish nations/Ireland itself after they take over all of Britain.
    Like, a concept version of formable nations, I guess.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +112

      I'm fairly sure they could do that since they already have "fictional" formable nations like Scandinavia. IIRC "Scandinavia" as a political entity never existed outside of the Kalmar union led by Denmark - so there is in game precedent presumably!

    • @maden4039
      @maden4039 6 лет назад +76

      I always God damn ask. Why can I form Roman Empire but I cant form Old Egyptian Empire? Or why we have norse religion in game but there is no way of getting it.

    • @alanetchetto8908
      @alanetchetto8908 6 лет назад +48

      @@maden4039 its a bit ironic have the option to do a costum country with "ancient egipt" culture, but at the same time there inst a formable country called "ancient egypth"
      Same with babylonials, espartans, athenians and the others
      If you are going tp introduce old culture, the why not introduce formable countrys for that culture? Or mechanics for them at least

    • @maden4039
      @maden4039 6 лет назад +11

      @@alanetchetto8908 not ironic. Sad. I want something interesting instead of countries I saw 100 Times in history books.

    • @alanetchetto8908
      @alanetchetto8908 6 лет назад +5

      @@maden4039 i said ironic because... you know, program is usually Hard and demand time. Then i see thing like that and i only can imagine a team of programers doing that while think "man, this is so useless, this have 0 mechanics and the only thing that is going to do is carry a lot of alternative history fans claming it have something"(?
      But, yeah, its kind of sad. Like i want a galic empire, visigod kingdom, neo-neobabylonian empire or even the macedonic empire (i really hate do the macedonian empire with tje "custom nation" thing and constantly see "form geece!!" In the misions)
      (Sorry for my terrible english btw)

  • @Ben-qs9fw
    @Ben-qs9fw 4 года назад +23

    I think Spain should be on this list, they have really good ideas and probably the most OP mission tree in the game giving claims on almost all of the Americas as well as PU cb on England/UK and Austria

    • @HVLLOW99
      @HVLLOW99 2 года назад

      They can become HRE too.

  • @alanetchetto8908
    @alanetchetto8908 6 лет назад +281

    Number -1.000.000 = scandinavia

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +57

      Scandinavia's red yellow flag triggers me. Map color is great though!

    • @potatogamer1877
      @potatogamer1877 6 лет назад +5

      Did You see SCOTLAND??

    • @andreasfiltenborg4952
      @andreasfiltenborg4952 6 лет назад +2

      It's fucking impossible to form and it's shit

    • @dragonsyb
      @dragonsyb 6 лет назад +29

      @@andreasfiltenborg4952 it's really easy to form but it takes a long while you have to wait for adm tech 20. Who the f has that time to wait around?

    • @Bragosso
      @Bragosso 6 лет назад +19

      Scandinavia is useless to form, if you form it you give up on the Swedish events you get in the future.

  • @Quintaner
    @Quintaner 5 лет назад +30

    With the Manchu update, Yuan is even more powerful as you no longer have to worry about bordering non-tributaries (and you can also just skip the mandate altogether). More importantly, it’s a hell of a lot easier to form, as Ming will now implode far more often

    • @mrmonokel2335
      @mrmonokel2335 5 лет назад

      And now Qing should easily be in the top 10 or even top 5 due to buffed ideas AND the op Mission set that gives cores on 2/3 of China if pulled off correctly. Even with nerfed Banners they are stupidly strong - Yuan only being better because they can Keep their Horde Status.
      Feels Pretty weird that old manchu wasnt in the list tho - when even Deccan was in there. Thinking About it - why the fuck was Deccan even in there? It should be Hindustan/Bharat - he explained it in the vid anyway, Deccan shouldnt be more than an honorable Mention (at best)

  • @michalisathanasoglou5650
    @michalisathanasoglou5650 6 лет назад +9

    Man, Alzabo is such a delight to listen to. His colorful descriptions are so entertaining

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад

      Thank you so much for the kind words! More spoken videos are on the way so stay tuned, comments like yours are what keeps me going!

  • @yangurevitz
    @yangurevitz 6 лет назад +199

    "when the winged hussars arrive"
    nice reference

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +23

      The anthem of EU4 Poland players!

    • @awesomeadam2066
      @awesomeadam2066 6 лет назад +7

      AlzaboHD Greatings from Poland.

  • @handleforname
    @handleforname 4 года назад +8

    I like how during the description of Deccan he's just getting completely destroyed in a war in the background lmao

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +6

      Haha yeah it was a preset date where they start with a losing war against GB, rip

  • @inferno_slayer
    @inferno_slayer 6 лет назад +6

    Keep making these eu4 list videos, they’re really good

  • @Emanon...
    @Emanon... 6 лет назад +90

    Scandinavia desperately needs own ideas, missions and another flag.
    Some of the modded flags are quite beautiful, while still keeping the nordic feel to it.
    Revamp SCANDINAVIA, please PDX!!

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +4

      I hope PDX revamps Iceland too!

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... 6 лет назад

      Hahaha, yeah that too...

    • @karolus145
      @karolus145 6 лет назад

      I’m new to eu4 what’s wrong with red yellow flag?

    • @jockejohansson3659
      @jockejohansson3659 6 лет назад

      I bet the paradox CEO is from Skåne it reminds of their flag.

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... 6 лет назад +6

      The Kalmar Union was the personal union under Denmark.
      It wasn't the "Empire" of Scandinavia per se. But I see your point :)
      But Scandinavia _REALLY_ needs some ideas and missions... Otherwise it's actually detrimental to form SCA...

  • @raikaria3090
    @raikaria3090 6 лет назад +191

    Yuan is too high. It requires you to take the crippleing Mandate of Heaven to form.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +32

      Mandate can definitely be a double edged sword. I wonder if you can form Yuan and drop the mandate by having someone declare a Take Mandate CB on you. Maybe disband all of your armies and de-tributary your neighbors and wait? Yuan without mandate would be an insane nation!

    • @dutchtheguy849
      @dutchtheguy849 6 лет назад +9

      it would be pretty damn annoying. Only real advantage of mandate of heaven is the unite china cb, for the rest it's a disadvantage.
      Many ai nations would just do a regular war which would cripple you before somebody would declare a mandate cb.

    • @thetrustysidekick3013
      @thetrustysidekick3013 6 лет назад +4

      Remove Talos
      Ming doesn't need a lot to break down. I played as Manchu and got them the Unguarded Nomad Frontier and they melted after a few wars since the penalties to their armies made them paper for my cav.

    • @tobiasholm2717
      @tobiasholm2717 6 лет назад +9

      Remove Talos but Ming is not supposed to be easy.
      They were by far the most developed nation in the world at the time of EU4’s start.
      Ming had a higher population than the entire Europe (can’t remember exact dates, but around 1450 as well).
      We are talking about millions of soldiers.
      And you want it to be easy for irrelevant nations to conquer them? Ming had problems with some of the Vietnamese nations, but they were no where near being able to be an actual threat to Ming.

    • @tobiasholm2717
      @tobiasholm2717 6 лет назад +4

      Remove Talos
      I’m sorry, I think I missed your main point, it’s early (at least in my part of the world) still sleepy.
      yeah Ming should have some seriously bad events, destroying their stability. Natural disasters really screwed Ming over back in time.
      I should probably mention now, I don’t play that much Ming myself so I don’t know if they have events like this, but from the looks of how almost every ai Ming survives, the events should be tougher.

  • @7graywolf7
    @7graywolf7 6 лет назад +3

    One thing I love about Prussia is that if you play small you benefit from massive bonuses. If you play large you may have less bonuses, but your massive armies will still be the most jacked up in the world

  • @withche07
    @withche07 6 лет назад +56

    Rum Seljuks were strong empire beating couple of crusades, also sacking armenian empire.
    They are reason why Turks are still at Anatolia.
    Devs were not drugged : D
    You should have mentioned janissary units and pashas as well, those 2 are available to Rûm

    • @Giganfan2k1
      @Giganfan2k1 6 лет назад +1

      @@kzlcehreli9618 my best friend's name is Bariş. :D

  • @TheFuentes5551
    @TheFuentes5551 6 лет назад +176

    Prussia all the way

    • @esssaaaa5417
      @esssaaaa5417 4 года назад

      Nahh fam nepal

    • @Ckern182
      @Ckern182 4 года назад +2

      Prussia was a good kingdom :*(

    • @markliao9158
      @markliao9158 4 года назад +1

      I was on the prussia hype train before I tried the Mughals

  • @lucyfrye1337
    @lucyfrye1337 6 лет назад +50

    ahh YUAN, not UN. that certainly drew my eyes to the screen.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +5

      The UN dynasty has a nice ring to it, though, doesn't it?

    • @arfn1973
      @arfn1973 5 лет назад +2

      Drew? Papa Drew Durnil
      I am sorry.

    • @boltaurelius376
      @boltaurelius376 5 лет назад

      Uniting nations by any means necessary

  • @mattpliska
    @mattpliska 6 лет назад +21

    U should rename the video "Most formidable formable nations" it'd be nice illiteration

  • @danielcooper8334
    @danielcooper8334 5 лет назад +5

    As a new EU4 player, I don’t understand any of this, but I’m super excited to learn and join the community. Great video.

  • @RhelrahneTheIdiot
    @RhelrahneTheIdiot 5 лет назад +4

    there is actually a quote from back in the day "unlike most nations who have a army the Prussian army has a state" that was in regards to their massive military budget and highly militaristic culture

    • @RhelrahneTheIdiot
      @RhelrahneTheIdiot 4 года назад

      @Luckimation Anime They got outplanned and outgunned by the French, it was Napoleon after all

  • @edim108
    @edim108 6 лет назад +27

    One thing that makes me think that Poland is the most powerful is that if it gets conquered by Horde, it itself can become one! Poland, the country with The Most Powerful Cavalry in the game, can become Horde and have 100% Cavalry Armies...
    That is NOT OK.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +11

      Its not just ok - it's bardzo dobrze!

    • @rokass.5430
      @rokass.5430 6 лет назад

      Wait what do you mean if it gets conquered by Horde? Can you tell me more about this exploit?

    • @rokass.5430
      @rokass.5430 6 лет назад

      +Edim 108

    • @edim108
      @edim108 6 лет назад +8

      @@rokass.5430 After the Dharma expansion and the Reform Mechanics once a country (in this case Poland) gets fully annexed by a Horde or a Tribal (Great Horde, Crimea, Circassia, etc.) and gets released as a Subject, it gets the form of government of its overlord, which in that case is Tribal (if conquered by a Tribal Nation) or Horde (if conquered by a Horde). This lets you make any nation in EU4 any form of government you want, as long as the nation in question is conquered by another, with the Government you want. You can have for example a Horde Ming, or an Iqta Papal State (if its lands are Muslim) etc.
      With Poland and Horde Government, you can have 100% Cavalry armies, which is... just not OK for anyone else, because Poland has the highest Cavalry Combat Ability in the Game, Cavalry Cost Reduction, Morale, Discipline and Manpower all in its National Ideas, which combined with Horde Bonuses to combat ability on Plains, Farmlands and Steppe and Reforms that grant you even more manpower, core creation cost reduction, and other bonuses from reforms.
      Siu-King actually made a series where he conquers Poland as Manchu and then Plays as Horde Poland and does the World Conquest.

    • @INecr0
      @INecr0 5 лет назад

      ruclips.net/video/IMXm-3qXK9c/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/2a96oUEnlaE/видео.html
      ruclips.net/video/fGJs8t0t1-A/видео.html

  • @andresonzzini7149
    @andresonzzini7149 6 лет назад +2

    Dude this video is amazing

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +1

      Dude you are amazing. Thanks for watching!

  • @ZacharyPackard0976
    @ZacharyPackard0976 6 лет назад +3

    I realy enjoyed this i thought u would be a no mic phone recording type person but no this was high quality

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks for watching! I really appreciate your kind words.

  • @numanbaran8607
    @numanbaran8607 6 лет назад +14

    Hey dude! Is it possible for you to do a let's play of a paradox game anytime soon?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад

      Yes! I'm working on finishing a campaign (and possible WC) right now for a timelapse video but after I'll be more free to do that. Thanks for watching!

    • @jibrilcarletti4025
      @jibrilcarletti4025 5 лет назад

      AlzaboHD i deeply agree with it. I do play EU4, but i don’t really grasp the whole meaning of OPness behind “whooping 5% discipline”... and so on
      I heart you vids though

  • @symax4921
    @symax4921 6 лет назад +6

    10:51 "The Fallen Dynasty Of The United Nations"

  • @harbingerofsarcasm2510
    @harbingerofsarcasm2510 6 лет назад +51

    Cavalry not Calvary one is a form of mounted troop the other a hill in Jerusalem.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +4

      Thank you Harbinger! Just wait until you hear me say "appisode" !

    • @Emanon...
      @Emanon... 6 лет назад

      Or the apex of your skull...
      Which the hill name in Golgotha is derived from...

    • @harbingerofsarcasm2510
      @harbingerofsarcasm2510 6 лет назад

      @@AlzaboHD didn't mean to sound derisive just a pet peave (I have no idea how to spell that.)

    • @LucarioDoT
      @LucarioDoT 6 лет назад +2

      @@harbingerofsarcasm2510 Pet peeve

  • @gent9358
    @gent9358 4 года назад +2

    Siberia: exists
    Russia: MOLOTOFIN' THE COFFIN'
    LOOKIE WHAT WE HAVE HEREE

  • @Real_SkyRipper
    @Real_SkyRipper 5 лет назад +9

    Russia should be number one, let's face it if you move the capital to Siberia no one will actually walk all that way to get it, and if they do by the time they get there you already have a new army waiting for them.

    • @RotgerValdes
      @RotgerValdes 3 года назад

      Well, often by the time you take Siberia and pull out all these nomads out of there, you already have at least a half of Lithuania and Caucasus and actually Moscow is deep inside in your country and secured enough.
      Forming Russia I switch the capital to St. Petersburg to get some development there for the fleet and then switch it back to Moscow.

  • @karolgajko
    @karolgajko 6 лет назад +20

    Great Britain or Japan anyone? Or Qing?

  • @SpaceCatNuggets
    @SpaceCatNuggets 5 лет назад +1

    I enjoy playing as the Ottomans, French, British, Spanish, Timards ( however u spell it ), Persians, forming Rome, Forming the Mughals, forming Malaysia, and last but not least, playing as the Aztecs

  • @yuripantyhose4973
    @yuripantyhose4973 6 лет назад +7

    are you using a graphic mod? the borders and state looks so much pleasing than it does in my game

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +5

      I am! I'm using Graphical Map Improvements mod found here steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=253263609

  • @Raphael-xb9co
    @Raphael-xb9co 6 лет назад +14

    absolutely haram 0:13

  • @gregorflopinski9016
    @gregorflopinski9016 4 года назад +2

    Came for the top ten, stayed for the crisp voice

  • @genstian
    @genstian 3 года назад +1

    Mongol Empire units can just run away from space marines. And has a good reason to do culture convertion (like 400% manpower because of banners in primary culture province). You also keep your Yuan ideas, and just get more good stuff.

  • @aarohalme1020
    @aarohalme1020 6 лет назад +10

    Why didint you mention that the dutch republic cant become the emperor?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +9

      You can Proclaim Erbkaisertum before swapping tags / government types to stay emperor as the Netherlands!

  • @MrQmicic
    @MrQmicic 5 лет назад +3

    Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. Enforcing Pierogi culture since 1569.

  • @drandren9093
    @drandren9093 6 лет назад +2

    5:06 The missionary strength is global, but not the unrest and manpower bonus, that is only in Orthodox provinces.

  • @howtoproperlycleanyourmeta4917
    @howtoproperlycleanyourmeta4917 5 лет назад +1

    Forming the Hre is fun as hell.

  • @orestpaja2531
    @orestpaja2531 6 лет назад +28

    One of my favourite formable nation is Malaya cuz i like to propagate religion in Ming Provinces XD

    • @Anand70707
      @Anand70707 6 лет назад

      Malacca already exists in the 1444 start date. It is not a formable tag.

    • @orestpaja2531
      @orestpaja2531 6 лет назад +5

      Srry i meant malaya

    • @leaveme3559
      @leaveme3559 5 лет назад

      @@orestpaja2531 just edit the damn thing already

    • @orestpaja2531
      @orestpaja2531 5 лет назад +1

      @@leaveme3559 happy ?

    • @leaveme3559
      @leaveme3559 5 лет назад +1

      @@orestpaja2531 ☺️

  • @baden271
    @baden271 4 года назад

    Nepal should definitely have been mentioned. The Nepali Ideas are so powerful and are, as far as I know, the only idea set that provide +1 Leader Siege. This, combined with most of the other idea bonuses being military focused, results in an extremely powerful militaristic nation

  • @tip00former1
    @tip00former1 6 лет назад +3

    You forgot about Persia. Next to OP ideas they have insane CB mechanic. Only lack CCCR.

    • @CoverofWinter
      @CoverofWinter 6 лет назад

      Don't the free claims give some reduction to coring costs?

    • @tip00former1
      @tip00former1 6 лет назад

      Sure, it only counts to neighboring provinces though. It should be 10%.

  • @MrDombez
    @MrDombez 4 года назад +2

    Could you make a updated list when 1.30 launches?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +1

      Absolutely - going to be making a lot of Emperor 1.30 content so stay tuned!

  • @giovdb
    @giovdb 5 лет назад +1

    After the Manchu update, which nations would you include on this list? I would think Qing and Golden Horde would make it in (not Mongol IMO, as Golden Horde is much better, especially because Mongol moves your capital to an awful place in Asia).

  • @crilltic7484
    @crilltic7484 6 лет назад

    Note on the Netherlands, it can be formed by any dutch-cultured nation and also Burgundy (which is in the French culture group)

  • @pixelcat5159
    @pixelcat5159 6 лет назад +4

    I'm the type of nerd who likes staying as a minor nation that *can* form a better nation just because it's like "We didn't come all this way to lose the identity that carried us here to begin with" like if I play a German minor (Like Cleves or something)
    Not very effective? Absolutely
    Fun to me?? *Absolutely*

  • @AImeria
    @AImeria 3 года назад +2

    You missed France, They can be REformed.

    • @HVLLOW99
      @HVLLOW99 2 года назад +1

      Spain too.

    • @AImeria
      @AImeria 2 года назад +1

      @@HVLLOW99 Spain dosen't exist at 1444 start date

  • @Arexsis
    @Arexsis 6 лет назад +10

    AlzaboHD 3:45. It's not Calvary, it's Cavalry. Calvary was the hill Jesus was crucified on, Cavalry is mounted horsemen

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад

      Thanks Arexsis! My pronunciation is notoriously bad - especially in the Let's Plays

    • @MrTohawk
      @MrTohawk 6 лет назад

      And I thought that was Golgotha

  • @moonglowdragon
    @moonglowdragon 6 лет назад +1

    Andalusia.
    My favorite game was a Granada start, ally with Morocco and Tlemcen. Get picked on by Castile, win, take land. Picked on again, win, take more land, form Andalusia, shatter Castile. Move on rest of Iberia, colonize West indies, get picked on by GB, invade the British Isles, take all of West Indies. Round 2, take the 13 Colonies. Ally with Ottomans. Colonize northern South America and Greenland, form Andalusian USA, Haiti and Mexico. Finish third.

    • @withche07
      @withche07 6 лет назад

      With next patch andalusia will be even stronger

  • @SangoProductions213
    @SangoProductions213 6 лет назад +4

    Yeah. I got to play against the Muhgal Empire. After the 50th war they declared on me, it was finally time that I decided to learn how to use console commands. God damned it's annoying.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад

      Im impressed the AI formed the Mughals in your campaign!

    • @SangoProductions213
      @SangoProductions213 6 лет назад +1

      So this is uncommon in your campaigns? OK. I guess I just got unlucky, having to play against Ottoman+.

    • @axelmuller7946
      @axelmuller7946 5 лет назад

      @@SangoProductions213 the same by me, very seldom, but I always ask myself, WHY ARE THE MAMELUKS NOT FORMING EGYPT?!!!! WHY. Also which country did you play with?

    • @SangoProductions213
      @SangoProductions213 5 лет назад

      @@axelmuller7946 Neo-Mongolia.

  • @theadventurer247
    @theadventurer247 6 лет назад

    Malaya is poweful as well. Conquering South East Asian trade from China using the Malay peninsular can make you rich quick

  • @AFT_05G
    @AFT_05G 5 лет назад +2

    What about new formed Germany with a Prussian ideas ? Sounds like cool :)

  • @gengarzilla1685
    @gengarzilla1685 4 года назад +1

    Those damn Muggles. Someone's gotta take care of them.

  • @psychofury6485
    @psychofury6485 6 лет назад +2

    Random question, whats up with your mouse cursor? Looks like it keeps dissappearing

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +2

      It's a mystery to me, too. Nvidia shadowplay is a pretty awful recording program but it gives me more or less 60 fps on my laptop so I'm stuck with it. If you have any suggestions for recorders that don't tank FPS like fraps or (potentially) OBS I'd love to know.

    • @psychofury6485
      @psychofury6485 6 лет назад

      @@AlzaboHD ah gotcha. Sadly i dont know much about recording programs so i cant recommend one :(

  • @Ryuko-T72
    @Ryuko-T72 4 года назад

    Savoy -> Italy was one of my most fun campaigns and can confirm Italy is good

  • @Andu661
    @Andu661 5 лет назад +3

    Finland has pretty good ideas too

  • @Michie1004
    @Michie1004 6 лет назад

    What dev diary was the info about new formable nations in? Any idea when these would be coming?

  • @NeueOrdnung
    @NeueOrdnung 4 года назад

    not enough experience in EU4 but in EU3 the 2 most powerful nations by far were Italy and Germany. I remember earning an obscene amount of money with italy, Germany on the other side was a military and tax powerhouse. Now in EU 4 I am playing with Ottoman and they are incredibly powerful, the switch from the westernization mechanic to institutions made them so easy to manage that you will never fall behind in techs if you just conquer some western lands like the hungarian ones. Just border or annex Austria and you become invincible

  • @theblueflamerl
    @theblueflamerl 4 года назад

    Is there any updates guides for Rum?

  • @Mullet-ZubazPants
    @Mullet-ZubazPants 4 года назад

    Yuan Dynasty founded by Kublai Khan, basically the Mongols. Mughal Empire founded by Babur, who was a descended from Genghis Khan, so sort of the Mongols again

  • @finisterre2415
    @finisterre2415 6 лет назад +2

    Can we talk about that prussia in your Netherlands game?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +2

      Haha yeah, it was massive. I wasn't actually playing NL - that timeline footage was from my Dharma AI timelapse video. Prussia became massive and was even Orthodox to boot!

  • @bambusbjorn3756
    @bambusbjorn3756 6 лет назад

    Any tips for getting independent as holland without the dlc were u can ally as Vassel. I want to play Netherlands so bad but burgundy keeps eating me :/

  • @shebschaf7608
    @shebschaf7608 6 лет назад +9

    u pick really strong nations in there.. but i missed persia and france... but i dont know which other nation to take from this list for these 2.

    • @andreastom1755
      @andreastom1755 6 лет назад +2

      still a formable

    • @WhyName
      @WhyName 6 лет назад +4

      @@andreastom1755 so is Poland, which isnt on here either.
      I think the list excluded nation's that exist in the 1444 start.

    • @stojankovacic1524
      @stojankovacic1524 6 лет назад +1

      Wait, Ottomans are formable?

    • @WhyName
      @WhyName 6 лет назад

      @@stojankovacic1524 fuck.....I might have fucked that up XD I'm gonna edit that out.

    • @besh55
      @besh55 6 лет назад +1

      Mamluks are also formable if you are tunisia, morocco or granada and you have province of mamluks (qahira or something) and if mamluks doesnt exist

  • @rateeightx
    @rateeightx 6 лет назад +1

    You Pronounced Ducats Better Than Most People Of Heard! Congratulations!

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад

      Thank you, sir/madam!

  • @bflp311
    @bflp311 6 лет назад +7

    Fun fact: There should be a Personal Union between Transylvania and the Commonwealth (1575/76-1586), because Stephen Báthory ruled both at the same time. (look it up in wikipedia.)
    But the ottomans would be unstoppable, because (just like in real life) Transylvania was a vassal of the ottomans.

    • @orestpaja2531
      @orestpaja2531 6 лет назад +1

      Well if anyone likes to start in 1500 (nobody does ) then of course

    • @starszynajstarszy9192
      @starszynajstarszy9192 6 лет назад +2

      But Batory was still independent king of Rzeczpospolita. Poland wasn't subject to Hungary.
      Poland should be subject of Saxony in early 18th century tho

    • @bflp311
      @bflp311 6 лет назад

      @@starszynajstarszy9192 True, but you can't do it in EU4 without making them a separate person.

    • @Bane_questionmark
      @Bane_questionmark 6 лет назад

      Yeah, but EU4 can't properly demonstrate actual vassalage systems very well. Neither can CK2 really, the problem is the game is based on sovereign control of territory whose owners are either a vassal or a lord, which isn't a great representation of feudalism in many cases. To fix this you'd need vassalage to be foremost a property of the land holding rather than a character. In real life there were counties controlled directly by English kings that were legally in a vassal relationship to the French crown, for example, so the English monarch was a vassal of France in regards to a select number of counties while at the same time being the principle lord over other holdings. This is only a specific example I know enough to mention, with inheritance laws being quasi-separate from legal vassal relationships this happened all the time. EU4 arguably represents this aspect a little better with personal unions still being separate countries where in CK2 they'd just be "annexed" on the map.

  • @Fafuncho
    @Fafuncho 6 лет назад +3

    when Italy gives combat ability XD

  • @HazardRoz
    @HazardRoz 6 лет назад

    I totally agree about moughals, cuse not only you get a buff for conquerind the culture group, when you conquer an entire culture (not culture group) it became acceptes, so you can virtually accept every single one culture in the world GG Even so, the indian subcontinent is very reach in trade numbers, so you have really nice incomesgtherin all in Persia node or even constantinopla when conquer ottomans.

  • @askkedladd
    @askkedladd 5 лет назад

    @ AlzaboHD You're making a mistake of not putting the manchu in this video. The combination of Tengri faith, horde government, banner troops, and the close proximity of the bank of Ming made them insanely powerful. Horde government and Tengri faith allows you to have an all cavalry army, combine this with the bonus hordes get on flat terrain and the manchu banner, you get a superpower horde with the world at their feet that can milk the bank of ming every time you need money.

  • @saruhan9760
    @saruhan9760 6 лет назад +6

    This rome seems like mongol empire more than rome

  • @londegel
    @londegel 5 лет назад +1

    09:25
    Nepal: are you sure about that?!

  • @arfn1973
    @arfn1973 5 лет назад +2

    Papal State technically is semi-elective "monarchy".

    • @mikesnow285
      @mikesnow285 5 лет назад +1

      Unless the Priests fuck each other and make children then no they aren't, oh wait...

    • @talltroll7092
      @talltroll7092 4 года назад

      @@mikesnow285 You're thinking of CK2

  • @SuperRexo98
    @SuperRexo98 6 лет назад

    Great video, i didn't know how powerfull is Mughals but i have to do a critic "tortellini alfredo" are not an italian dish xD

    • @mikesnow285
      @mikesnow285 5 лет назад

      How is it not? Sounds Italian, looks Italian, made with Italian products.

  • @crusadernikolai1996
    @crusadernikolai1996 4 года назад

    Maybe my game is wack but in my commonwealth game I couldn’t ever choose the ruler I wanted I just had like a son.

  • @aciarduce
    @aciarduce 6 лет назад +1

    You mentioned that anyone that forms Rome will get the Mare Nostrum achievement. This is incorrect. To get that achievement, you must have already formed Rome, and then owned all provinces around the Mediterranean and Black Sea. This is on top of the provinces in England along with Italy, Greece, France, Iberia, and Anatolia required to form Rome in the first place.

  • @alexjiang758
    @alexjiang758 6 лет назад

    I think Qing should be on the list, too. God tier national ideas, permanent claim on China and banners are rather OP.

  • @midnightfox6378
    @midnightfox6378 6 лет назад +8

    You forgot the powerful nation Hannover

  • @chasemeadows6176
    @chasemeadows6176 5 лет назад +2

    I think Japan is pretty underrated

  • @nunyabusiness4095
    @nunyabusiness4095 3 года назад

    I like to start as Milan, become emperor, form Italy, then work on making the HRE my vassals while I make the Roman Empire. The end result is the most powerful entity that the game can make.

  • @Michaelonyoutub
    @Michaelonyoutub 6 лет назад +3

    so is minghals still possible?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад

      Fairly sure it isn't, unfortunately. You might be able to form Shan as Ming and then go from Shan to Mughals but I havn't tested it yet.

    • @lukrumble3295
      @lukrumble3295 6 лет назад

      isnt ming end game tag nation?

    • @MrTohawk
      @MrTohawk 6 лет назад

      Forming Shan first works

  • @Venomox666
    @Venomox666 4 года назад

    Does anyone know what map skin does he use?

  • @deathwingthecorrupted9374
    @deathwingthecorrupted9374 6 лет назад

    6.15 we dont get drunk,just a bit sleepy

  • @adwans1491
    @adwans1491 4 года назад +1

    How do i Form a Nation?

  • @alpharius4208
    @alpharius4208 6 лет назад +10

    Imperium of Mann should be formable, and be able to put Prussian space marines to shame

    • @talltroll7092
      @talltroll7092 4 года назад

      It's a few millenia out of the timeframe of the game though

  • @thriceblessed05
    @thriceblessed05 6 лет назад +1

    what mods do u use for this map graphics?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад

      Graphical Map Improvements which you can find on steam here: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=253263609

    • @thriceblessed05
      @thriceblessed05 6 лет назад

      Thx

  • @gifigi6006
    @gifigi6006 3 года назад +1

    If you wanna form Germany. You never abandon Prussia, you change name and flag.

  • @aarohalme1020
    @aarohalme1020 6 лет назад +15

    Sardinia-piedmont not piedmont-sardinia

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад

      Thanks for the correction!

  • @INecr0
    @INecr0 5 лет назад +3

    1. Polish Horde (Horde into Poland).

  • @Gelthon
    @Gelthon 4 года назад

    I fought with a 40k prussian stack against 58k rebels. My losses: around 800.
    My general has a total of 17 points plus prussian tropps is totaly destructive

    • @talltroll7092
      @talltroll7092 4 года назад

      It's the Mk VII Power Armour that does it mostly, but unlocking Krak rounds and Land Raiders for the cav helps too

  • @aidanonisko4720
    @aidanonisko4720 6 лет назад

    I say Yuan is the best, how fast you can expand is incredible.

  • @TheMelnTeam
    @TheMelnTeam 6 лет назад

    Yuan and NED over Manchu/Qing and Golden Horde is rough. Celestial government is a significant setback, and the Dutch are nowhere near these.

  • @geraldtodd8169
    @geraldtodd8169 4 года назад +1

    Spain as Aragon most OP in the game

  • @hoyinching9313
    @hoyinching9313 4 года назад

    The lists are great. Besides Scandinavia, i wish they have new ideas for Egypt and Arabia. Using 20 adm tech for it isn't worthy.
    Mongol empire is also worthy to improve. I mean if mongol khanate form yuan and then mongol empire. They could have just like one jurchen tride to manchu to qing, gradually stronger ideas.

  • @royaljanissary4555
    @royaljanissary4555 6 лет назад +1

    Which one is more difficult? Ck 2 or Eu 4?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  6 лет назад +4

      Personally CK2 is more difficult for me. Managing your dynasty is a lot more challenging than managing a country because if your king dies without an heir you lose in CK2 but in EU4 its not a problem

    • @callan6499
      @callan6499 6 лет назад

      What are you talking about, just kill your all of (except 1) your sons by leaving them in the sea to die of scurvy(?) until late game, where you just click on the marry button to ANYONE just to have cadet branches, also fuck anyone you can just to get more kids towards the end, bastard children are super useful because you can deny them claims whilst making them apart of your dynasty by just legitimising them after the birth event.

  • @EmpressTiffanyOfBrittany
    @EmpressTiffanyOfBrittany 3 года назад

    I managed to get Prussia by complete accident. I have never felt so much Germanic patriotism in my life and I'm Vietnamese.