Top 10 Worst Formable Nations in EU4

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  • Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
  • In this video we will be looking at the worst formable nations in EU4. These countries are equal parts awful and difficult to play, and in this video I will showcase them and play them so that you do not have to in Europa Universalis IV.
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Комментарии • 899

  • @AlzaboHD
    @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +591

    Heya folks! So with the chrome slickness (reworded to avoid demonetization) going about I'll be quite a bit more active on RUclips! Expect 1-2 videos per week for the forseeable future - my country of residence (France) has a 45 day lockdown where I will have to stay at home. More CK2 and other content coming soon! What do you guys want to see?

    • @caesarsushi3238
      @caesarsushi3238 4 года назад +16

      Your top 10's are always great, i don't even play EU4 (ck2 only) but watched every one of your video's on it, the top 10 rare/interesting/awfull are your best IMO, keep it up!

    • @superstructure23
      @superstructure23 4 года назад +18

      More CK2!!

    • @xeanderman6688
      @xeanderman6688 4 года назад +37

      Didn't even know you're a French person.. a quite interesting fact of the day!
      Anyways, more CK2 meme videos would be fun to watch

    • @ikiwel
      @ikiwel 4 года назад +10

      Cheers from Toulon mate, happy lockdown to ya

    • @fredricknoe3114
      @fredricknoe3114 4 года назад +14

      Wait you're French? Ubsubbed.

  • @blitcut9712
    @blitcut9712 4 года назад +3536

    Forming Germany isn't about ideas or missions. It's about sending a message.

    • @Noah_Levy
      @Noah_Levy 4 года назад +359

      *Angry French Noises*

    • @SadCheetah
      @SadCheetah 4 года назад +265

      PLACE
      IN
      THE
      SUN
      BABY

    • @brennerthelegomaniac2102
      @brennerthelegomaniac2102 4 года назад +32

      I was looking forward to this

    • @jbdbibbaerman8071
      @jbdbibbaerman8071 4 года назад +108

      Though couldn't you form Germany and keep Prussian ideas? So does it matter if German ideas suck?

    • @SadCheetah
      @SadCheetah 4 года назад +58

      @@jbdbibbaerman8071 yea if you form it with Brandy (or Prussia)
      it is still a terrible formable nation though, would be nice if they flavored it up, changed it's god awful color, etc.

  • @punishedwhirligig3353
    @punishedwhirligig3353 4 года назад +2293

    You forgot to mention how forming Scandinavia as Norway actually prevents you from getting the Norwegian Wood achievement

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +413

      Yet another reason why you should never form scandinavia lol

    • @appleproducts3639
      @appleproducts3639 4 года назад +13

      amazing content keep up the great content

    • @Mangeol
      @Mangeol 4 года назад +23

      You could also form Scandinavia as Gotland

    • @Hay1hiho
      @Hay1hiho 4 года назад +36

      Also if you form it as Sweden you won't get any of the OP Swedish events relating to military and absolutism

    • @Infinite_Jester
      @Infinite_Jester 4 года назад +8

      @@Hay1hiho He did mention that.

  • @Kasperi_A.
    @Kasperi_A. 4 года назад +3760

    Actually greece has one good thing about it: the ability to form byzantium

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +800

      Underrated comment, totally forgot this mechanic!

    • @gamedominatorxennongdm7956
      @gamedominatorxennongdm7956 4 года назад +436

      I conquer byzantium to form byzantium

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 4 года назад +133

      GameDominator //XennonGDM
      I conquer Rome to form Italy... Wait

    • @kaballfs
      @kaballfs 4 года назад +13

      It'd be outrageous otherwise.

    • @Thund3rStorm3r
      @Thund3rStorm3r 4 года назад +4

      10% ccr :^ ]

  • @pouritenne8996
    @pouritenne8996 4 года назад +954

    8:40 "bukhara transforms your nation from a formidable horde into an overextended and pathetic sultanate"
    this is historically accurate can't understand why are you complaining

    • @daniielah.7569
      @daniielah.7569 4 года назад +99

      @İnsan Ended up as the Emirate of Bukhara, got wrecked by the kazakhs and then by the russians

  • @jacobzanatta1769
    @jacobzanatta1769 4 года назад +1469

    "Unlike more historically relevant post-colonial states..." Oof, you didn't have to cut us Aussies that deep...

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 4 года назад +91

      Australia doesn’t even exist

    • @EndOfSmallSanctuary97
      @EndOfSmallSanctuary97 4 года назад +65

      The only salve to that wound is that at least we're more relevant than New Zealand

    • @kristofevarsson6903
      @kristofevarsson6903 4 года назад +17

      As an apparently more relevant post-colonial Yank, I'll tip my hat to y'all down in Oz. Someone had to be at Gallipoli for us.

    • @yeetptrson4575
      @yeetptrson4575 4 года назад +11

      Australia is America's greatest ally

    • @kaiki4432
      @kaiki4432 4 года назад +6

      @@yeetptrson4575 fuck america Australia number 1

  • @MSF_Soldier_Alligator
    @MSF_Soldier_Alligator 4 года назад +930

    Greece does have one thing going for it: That cool deep blue map color.

    • @ingratus8160
      @ingratus8160 4 года назад +16

      same for Iceland

    • @someorclad9738
      @someorclad9738 4 года назад +33

      Well when you wanna paint the map, colours are very important.

    • @brianvieane3907
      @brianvieane3907 4 года назад +9

      It's good for the achievment. I did Athens academical to grecce achievement. Their tradions are bad. But all there ideas are decent/good -10% core creation, 10% info combat ability, -10% advisor cost, +2 tolerance to true faith is actually really good. It's hard to form which is the thing. But otherwise as a vassal/March mid to late game I think it's top 20.

    • @makky6239
      @makky6239 3 года назад

      @@someorclad9738 genius

  • @acebalistic1358
    @acebalistic1358 3 года назад +67

    Imagine playing as Norway, selling off all your provinces to become Iceland, then conquering Sweden Norway and Denmark to form Scandinavia.

  • @jonorgames9880
    @jonorgames9880 4 года назад +602

    It fellt cool, when I formed Scandinavia, that counts for something right?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +237

      I bet it felt cool - Scandinavia is freezing!

    • @stefangrobbink7760
      @stefangrobbink7760 4 года назад +61

      I formed scandinavia once. I was like: now what? Then proceeded to play whack a mole with the countless rebels in my russian territories.

    • @owlblocksdavid4955
      @owlblocksdavid4955 4 года назад +21

      Isn't that a big factor, though? I don't really play for the best decisions, so much as a fun experience.

    • @ingratus8160
      @ingratus8160 4 года назад

      If it weren't only formable after admin tech 20, than it at least would be worth the claims you get. admin tech 20 is just too late for my taste...

    • @markhenley3097
      @markhenley3097 4 года назад +9

      I played as Sweden and kept Denmark and Norway as marches. Looks better on the map.

  • @maximidze2286
    @maximidze2286 4 года назад +122

    I have like 15 minutes in this game why am i watching this

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +26

      Good question but I thank you for the support!

    • @blackfrost3581
      @blackfrost3581 3 года назад +1

      Jokes one you I don't even olay the game (yet)

    • @maximidze2286
      @maximidze2286 3 года назад

      @barred toaster no

    • @miko5742
      @miko5742 3 года назад

      @@maximidze2286yes

  • @cursedex3755
    @cursedex3755 4 года назад +484

    I was expecting ISP after the intro

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +163

      I was expecting this comment, and then another comment exactly like this x20 - 30

    • @appleproducts3639
      @appleproducts3639 4 года назад +8

      amazing content keep up the great content

  • @ZKP314
    @ZKP314 4 года назад +80

    List: *Worst formable nations playable in EU4*
    Me: Oh hey, let's send this to ISP, and tell him to have fun.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +19

      Us ironside boys have to stick together!

  • @laugechristophersen9913
    @laugechristophersen9913 4 года назад +549

    Top 10 least fun nations to play
    Top 10 best nations for tall play
    Top 10 endgame tags
    Top 10 marches (and a guide for vassal v. march)
    Top 10 best nations for world conquest
    Top 10 most satisfying things in EU4
    Top 10 least military nations
    Top 10 overrated nations
    Top 10 funnest achievements (and how to get them)
    Top 10 of your best EU4 memories
    Top 10 best (and another one for worst) starting positions
    Top 10 nations for a fun/quick/easy/hard Roman Empire-runs
    Also top 10 AlzaboHD roasts of EU4-nations
    Just some ideas for you for the days to come. Stay healthy!

    • @randomperson6988
      @randomperson6988 4 года назад +9

      Lauge Christophersen yes top 10 marches

    • @oORoOFLOo
      @oORoOFLOo 4 года назад +4

      all of them have ottomans as #1

    • @laugechristophersen9913
      @laugechristophersen9913 4 года назад +2

      @@oORoOFLOo Damn, you are right. How did I not notice that. Guess I'll go play Ottomans then

    • @kyokyoniizukyo7171
      @kyokyoniizukyo7171 4 года назад +1

      Lauge Christophersen
      The funniest achievements one sounds interesting...what would it primarily be?

    • @greninjamastergabe6452
      @greninjamastergabe6452 4 года назад +1

      Top 10 Government forms/reforms

  • @alekdechateau7492
    @alekdechateau7492 4 года назад +91

    1:12 big *OOF* right there...

  • @AppleBiscuits
    @AppleBiscuits 4 года назад +154

    "Sokoto is awful"
    *laughs in Vic2*

    • @WillTheForests
      @WillTheForests 4 года назад +29

      When you are by default the most powerful Nation in West Africa because nobody else is there.

    • @AppleBiscuits
      @AppleBiscuits 4 года назад +14

      @@WillTheForests I was moreso referencing the fact that (at least in base game, haven't played HPM yet) they're colonization fodder and are invaded by any player wanting to set up in Africa within 5 years of gamestart

    • @WillTheForests
      @WillTheForests 4 года назад

      @@AppleBiscuits Yeah fair enough

    • @Taeerom
      @Taeerom 4 года назад +7

      @@WillTheForests It's also a nation of an insane number of soldier POPs. Just like it is a mistake conquering the wrong provinces in east Asia due to having too little literacy and too many of the wrong POPs, grabbing Sokoto to boost your soldier count is great.

    • @CaptainApathetic
      @CaptainApathetic 3 года назад +3

      @@AppleBiscuits sokoto is powerful as fuck in HPM.

  • @fredricknoe3114
    @fredricknoe3114 4 года назад +761

    #1 USA: Made by King George gang.

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +73

      This really rustled my (yankee) jimmies, good work!

    • @greatwolf5372
      @greatwolf5372 4 года назад +48

      USA is not fun to play in Eu4. The mechanics of the game(designed for early modern Europe) doesn't really work for the US. On the other hand US is one of the most fun nations to play in Victoria 2.

    • @appleproducts3639
      @appleproducts3639 4 года назад +1

      amazing content keep up the great contentv

    • @hyperion3145
      @hyperion3145 4 года назад +6

      Great Wolf
      It sucks that the AI rarely does anything in the Western Hemisphere unless the players do something. The US in Vicky 2 just sits there and occasionally takes cores but doesn’t do too much else.

    • @greatwolf5372
      @greatwolf5372 4 года назад +8

      @@hyperion3145 It is historical though isn't? US didn't really do all that much outside the Americas until World War 2. A game set in post war era would completely different though. It would be Europe sitting there doing nothing.

  • @treyebillups8602
    @treyebillups8602 4 года назад +94

    I would love to see the Oceanic region and Aboriginal cultures expanded on. They’ve essentially disappeared from memory since European settlers wiped them out or assimilated them.

    • @kingdomofomins
      @kingdomofomins 4 года назад +8

      I'd rather have the polynesian culture expanded like Hawaii then aboriginals who didnt do shit

    • @candiman4243
      @candiman4243 3 года назад +14

      Guess you got your wish

  • @cs40660
    @cs40660 4 года назад +64

    0:31
    My nightmares have followed me to reality.

  • @deutsch-amerikanisch8281
    @deutsch-amerikanisch8281 4 года назад +493

    AlzaboHD: makes video
    Everyone in the comments: I was expecting ISP After that Ironsides intro

    • @micheasz2552
      @micheasz2552 4 года назад +9

      ,,EU4. Playing with Scandinavia is CURSED.(End me)"

    • @vladdrakul7851
      @vladdrakul7851 4 года назад +4

      'German American?? Don't you mean Nazi POS traitor American! And please don't bitch at for me pointing out the obvious. YOU chose that moniker, not the German flag to make a statement. I am not into pro genocide fuckwits who wanted to wipe out not just the Jews but the Slavs too. Lebensraum'! Ask the Russians- Still with McCarthyism being now practiced by the DNC and MSM we are now offically pro Nazi in the West now what with the US spending $ 5 BILLION to overturn Ukraine's democracy and put in a Nazi backed oligarch and with all the SS Div Galicia fans of the Death camps like the Azov Brigade you are not so alone these POISONED days!

    • @taliesin7913
      @taliesin7913 4 года назад +1

      @@vladdrakul7851
      Imagine being this butt blasted about someone else's username. "Vlad Drakul" is fucking cringe.

    • @vladdrakul7851
      @vladdrakul7851 4 года назад +4

      @@taliesin7913 Vlad Drakul is a historical name for the father of Vlad Tepes using Rumanian spelling. Second it was NOT HIS NAME which bothered me fuckwit but his choice of the Nazi flag not the German one. (which is ironic as you attack my name which is a Metal name I have used since the 1990's for music. Think Slayer). Only Bieber level tweens still use the word 'cringe' btw. My son quit using that lame expression 5 years ago. Are you 12? We know why you made that pathetic lame attempt at an insult. You did not like the point I had to make. IE your a POS defending Nazism; As a German I find little shits like you to be the worst. Little fuckwit can't handle push back. GO fuck yourself Lil Adolf or was it lil Dickie?

    • @MegaRaven100
      @MegaRaven100 4 года назад +6

      @@taliesin7913 Wow the White Knight rides in to rescue the Nazi sympathizer. Jerk!

  • @Blank-lh2hn
    @Blank-lh2hn 4 года назад +57

    You know you've been watching too much ISP when you associate the Ironside logo with memes

  • @oliverstianhugaas7493
    @oliverstianhugaas7493 4 года назад +31

    I don't even get how it is possible to make Scandinavia bad, *just mix the Scandinavia nations together*
    How hard can it be?

  • @Rabenfell
    @Rabenfell 4 года назад +142

    5:07 EU4 ASMR when?

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +20

      april fools!

    • @hope6840
      @hope6840 4 года назад +6

      Could be good actually

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 4 года назад +51

    This might as well be renamed "Top 10 AlzaboHD roasts of EUIV Factions"!

  • @georgeoldsterd8994
    @georgeoldsterd8994 2 года назад +10

    10. Australia - 0:31
    9. Greece - 1:37
    8. Westphalia - 2:55
    7. Shan - 4:05
    6. Germany - 5:26
    5. Sokoto - 6:55
    4. Bukhara - 8:20
    3. Iceland - 9:32
    2. Holy Roman Empire - 10:52
    1. Scandinavia - 12:16

  • @hognigk96
    @hognigk96 3 года назад +6

    As an Icelander I’m very offended. I’ll have you know that aside from eating rotten shark we also eat sheep balls stored for months in fermented whey.
    Good day to you.

  • @mrmister2664
    @mrmister2664 4 года назад +11

    I love how these videos are not just about the game itself, but it is also full of clever joked and references. Alzabo really comes across as a knowledgable person.

  • @josephhernandez9531
    @josephhernandez9531 2 года назад +7

    “I will spare you the contrived Voltaire quote”
    Thank you.

  • @merijnboonen5097
    @merijnboonen5097 2 года назад +1

    Love the humour and shade mingled in those videos, it makes them not only educational but also very fun too watch, keep up the good work 😃

  • @user-sp3tr3eq7h
    @user-sp3tr3eq7h 4 года назад +112

    Rest in peace Aral Sea

    • @austinmontgomery117
      @austinmontgomery117 3 года назад +1

      What's wrong with draining a sea? Farmland was obtained that way

    • @plzfixwolves955
      @plzfixwolves955 3 года назад +7

      @@austinmontgomery117 What do you think is gonna happen once that sea dries up? No water which can be irrigated for that farm land.

    • @plzfixwolves955
      @plzfixwolves955 3 года назад

      @@kubilayvurak8256 It’s not Salt Water.

    • @wouterberings6535
      @wouterberings6535 3 года назад +3

      @@austinmontgomery117 well the drainage of the sea was not the goal of the operation. Sure they made farmland, but not for edible crops but for cotton. The drainage also has tons of negative effects like the destruction of the whole ecosphere and with that the fisheries on the lake. All shipyards closed, lots of jobs were lost and health problems caused by dust from the lake bed, contaminated by heavy pesticides used in the farmlands by the river, which became a desert, appeared. Furthermore did the local climat change; a large body of water lessens fluctuations in temperature. And also an old laboratory which studied bio weapons like anthrax on an island in the lake became accessible.

    • @wouterberings6535
      @wouterberings6535 3 года назад +1

      @@kubilayvurak8256 no. The lake used to contain sweet water but since it has almost completely dried up the water has become salty.

  • @ryanhodges2201
    @ryanhodges2201 4 года назад +29

    I don’t understand why it took them so long to give the HRE and Germany missions and flavor. They should have at lest had their own national ideas.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 4 года назад +1

      How long does it take most players to form them? Sort of to the point that it was probably very low on their to-do list.

    • @ryanhodges2201
      @ryanhodges2201 4 года назад +1

      @@artofthepossible7329 Fair enough. But I still think this is a bit silly that it took this long

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 4 года назад +1

      @@ryanhodges2201 Look at the amont of DLCs CK2 got.
      It's silly but welcome to video game development, too many things to do and not enough time to do them is an excuse that is perfectly valid.

  • @JormungandrEtrSigSjalfr
    @JormungandrEtrSigSjalfr 4 года назад +17

    10:44 - That was a good, but tragically failed attempt at trying to pronounce the names in Icelandic. xD

  • @NieJa_2137
    @NieJa_2137 2 года назад +10

    Honestly I'm pretty interested how this list would look now, since after the recent updates Australia, Westphalia and Germany would probably not be on the list anymore and Iceland along with the HRE would probably be lower on the list since they actually have really nice ideas now

  • @spencerbrice5483
    @spencerbrice5483 3 года назад +8

    Checkmate Alzabo, Westphalia now has one of the best idea sets in Germany and you can stack idea cost modifiers on them to get ideas for 150 mana.

  • @TheRobinCat
    @TheRobinCat 4 года назад +4

    I'm really surprised Egypt isn't on this list.
    - requires admin tech 20
    - gives claims on Egypt, which the mamluks, the only nation that can form them without culture shifting, already own at the start
    - if you have the Mamluk government, you turn into a normal monarchy and lose 1 stability

  • @catalyst772
    @catalyst772 4 года назад +18

    Alzabo I don't know if anyone has said this but you feel like the Taureor of Eu4 (With that calm bob ross-esque voice)

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +8

      Cheers mate I love Taureor's content, thanks for the compliment!

  • @appleproducts3639
    @appleproducts3639 4 года назад +3

    amazing content keep up the great content

  • @noobsaibot8780
    @noobsaibot8780 4 года назад +16

    8:27 It says "R.I.P. Aral Sea"

  • @Christian---
    @Christian--- 4 года назад +4

    Can confirm Shan. Since I started my first formable was Japan, next I painstakingly bumbled my way to a Shan from Mong Kawng and found out I was actually stronger pre-formation and fell apart in minutes.

  • @salihkarayel
    @salihkarayel 4 года назад +1

    You're the greatest. Thanks for the effort you put in these videos

  • @Saludin2
    @Saludin2 4 года назад +14

    5:07
    "They never got Thailand"

  • @Jorduan100
    @Jorduan100 4 года назад +3

    This was damn entertaining, getting covered in "piss yellow" was particular hilarious! cheers

  • @not242
    @not242 4 года назад

    Great video as always. Looking forward to more videos (especially CK2 content) to get me through this lockdown lol

  • @waywardstoner9416
    @waywardstoner9416 4 года назад +2

    The casual puns in between your explanations make the video funny and enjoyable. I always have a laugh.

  • @geoffreygualtieri378
    @geoffreygualtieri378 4 года назад +6

    Westphalia was listed to get new missions in the latest dev diary, so that could make it far more interesting.

  • @jacobr501
    @jacobr501 3 года назад +2

    Woud love to see an updated version of this now!

  • @WeArMature
    @WeArMature 4 года назад

    Love your videos!

  • @Kebabmaster5000
    @Kebabmaster5000 4 года назад

    More videos from my favourite PDX channel is the single best thing the recent quarantines have caused.

  • @dilrabayok
    @dilrabayok 4 года назад +1

    Good video mate ;)

  • @pedrohnsouza
    @pedrohnsouza 4 года назад +3

    Good video has always, Alzabo. Personally I would like to see a guide about how to play with super overlooked Interlacustrine (aka Central African minors) nations or the South American Natives OPMs. Greetings from Brazil and watch out for the yellow virus

  • @francesco8000
    @francesco8000 4 года назад +2

    A final note on Germany: if you were playing as Prussia before (which is very likely) you won't be able to get the unique ability "Prussian Discipline" during the age of revolution which grant −20% Fire damage received.

  • @Meshakhad
    @Meshakhad 4 года назад +4

    I'd love to see a video of the best colonial regions, particularly with an eye towards breaking away and becoming independent.

  • @CallingSkoot
    @CallingSkoot 4 года назад +17

    The fact that someone that is not iSorrowProductions can be sponsored by Ironside makes me rethink my existence

  • @itsmepancho2137
    @itsmepancho2137 4 года назад

    I’ve been waiting for this one

  • @marc-julien6826
    @marc-julien6826 2 года назад +1

    #8 Westphalia: I actually formed it as Cleves, after a few conquests. And actually ended up as leader of a PU with France (which is hard to control, however, due to Westphalia being so much smaller than France).

  • @sicksock435446
    @sicksock435446 4 года назад +8

    Scandinavia is especially bad since if you play as Sweden there's a handful of events which can give you some of the best permanent modifiers in the game. But of course that isn't favoritism by the devs...

  • @agihammerthief8953
    @agihammerthief8953 4 года назад +2

    Turning from a horde into a settled state was useful in EU3, where hordes had huge difficulties staying stable, abysmal income and a tech group with 10% research speed and no unit upgrades beyond tech 1, and settling was the first step to westernization. Now in EU4 hordes can do most things settled nations can, and have an array of powerful abilities on top.

  • @parkerprice6787
    @parkerprice6787 4 года назад +1

    Stay safe out there! I’d personally like to see your personal top 10 favorite campaigns

  • @aelaraole2004
    @aelaraole2004 4 года назад

    Great videos! How about top 10 best/worst trade nodes?

  • @edomonkey2571
    @edomonkey2571 4 года назад

    What a great video isp 👍

  • @spencerbuck1074
    @spencerbuck1074 3 года назад +1

    I've been playing a game as Hesse in which I maintain the emperorship of an entirely protestant HRE. Hesse's ideas are superior to Westphalia's, but I ended up forming them without new traditions and ambitions because Hesse's mission tree includes tolerance and a permanent +.1 monthly imperial authority modifier, and for an emperor game that seems valuable to me. Plus I get claims on northern Germany when before the missions focused more on pushing West over Rhinish culture provinces. I already got the Hessian mercenaries achievement and I'm not aware of any super great ideas past the 1670s for Hesse so it seemed like a good move.

  • @korakys
    @korakys 3 года назад +1

    You actually sound pained when you talked about forming the HRE, I'm sensing a lot of past personal struggle with that one.

  • @CringeRat
    @CringeRat 4 года назад +8

    Not gonna lie, I've never played EU
    I clicked on this video out of curiosity
    Had no idea what was going on, but was not disappointed!

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +5

      Thanks for watching! EU4 goes on sale quite often, if you're interested in history or strategy gaming it's definitely worth checking out. Cheers!

  • @Thunder103093
    @Thunder103093 3 года назад

    I formed Bukhara when i played Uzbek years ago & i'm continuing the save on Vicky2 for a RUclips playthrough

  • @AftermathRV
    @AftermathRV 4 года назад +4

    6:15 interresting factoid that makes germany even worse to form:
    IF you form it as prussia, you are no longer able to use the prussian age b onus in age of revolutions, even though this should be more then obvious if you think about it, there really is no reason to form them at all if you intend on finishing the campaign aside from roleplay porpuses.

  • @Thomaswake
    @Thomaswake 4 года назад +65

    Before I watch I bet Scandinavia is the worse

  • @thrashes6208
    @thrashes6208 4 года назад +15

    Yea i mean it is kind of weird that there isn't a northern european expansion that includes Novgorod, Iceland and some north German nations...
    Also PS, that was the absolute funniest Eyjafjallajökull pronounciation that i think was intentionally bad?
    It's EYYY (like EYYY (OOO) (JA sound ) AAA... hard F-JA (hard double L) LL A (prounounced the same as the JA A)... Jö (sorta like J uhh) K (hard) U (like uhh) and hard double L again (as in let air escape!). Idk maybe too much text but i have absolutely no idea what you said so it goes for both of us. Hilarious!

    • @Dmitrisnikioff
      @Dmitrisnikioff 4 года назад +1

      Það er tilgangslaust að reyna með greyin, þau ná þessu aldrei

    • @thrashes6208
      @thrashes6208 4 года назад

      @@Dmitrisnikioff Já því miður...

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад +4

      Awesome to see Icelandic people here! Hey at least I can say " Þingvellir", better figure out a way to get that into a script. Your language is super hard!

  • @raikaria3090
    @raikaria3090 4 года назад +35

    Seems like a slightly odd time to release this before a major patch which is updateing some idea sets [EG: Sardinia-Peidmont]
    I wouldn't agree with Greece being #9 with Reduced Core Costs. They're not brilliant but have use. It's certainly better than Westphalia and Shan...
    And how does Malaya get a pass when it also offers you nothing; Shan can change your ideas if you form it as someone without Shan ideas.

    • @gamedominatorxennongdm7956
      @gamedominatorxennongdm7956 4 года назад +2

      I have no idea what his thinking process was, but as far as I know, the only thing going for malaya asides pirates is that you have the ability to access one of the best trade nodes in game which could turn you stupid rich

    • @sadler3334
      @sadler3334 4 года назад +6

      @@gamedominatorxennongdm7956 well that's the point, as Malaya you can easily become one of the richest countries in the game, and EU4 is a game where you can effectively throw money at problems that prop up to solve them.

    • @melandor0
      @melandor0 4 года назад

      Higher number is better, lower number is worse. #1 is the worst. #9 is almost the least bad on the list.

    • @DiamondDust132
      @DiamondDust132 4 года назад +1

      I'm doing a Malaya playthrough right now, and yeah, I'm stupid rich. That alone makes it good.

    • @raikaria3090
      @raikaria3090 4 года назад

      @@DiamondDust132 You would be just as rick as before you pressed the button.

  • @lefoix4629
    @lefoix4629 4 года назад

    Of course ideas and so on are nice, but for me, the roleplay aspect is just more important. Up the HRE!

  • @spencerbuck1074
    @spencerbuck1074 4 года назад

    I saw Iceland form in a game once. I think a bunch of other rare nations appeared in that game too but Iceland was the one I thought was craziest

  • @Fortastius
    @Fortastius 4 года назад +19

    Wait, aren’t you able to keep your previous TAG’s national ideas and other associated functions by an event when you form Germany? With that by forming Germany you get bumped to empire rank and gain claims on both north and south German regions while still being able to keep Prussian or whatever ideas

    • @michelschols8918
      @michelschols8918 4 года назад +3

      You're right when you say that hitting the button to form Germany isn't going to be a detriment to your nation.
      However, the opportunity cost is massive and the tag change doesn't give you anything substantial.
      But, yes, if you happen to meet the requirements to form Germany, you usually might as well do it. Well, unless you had any tag-related events that were still to come.

  • @shorewall
    @shorewall 4 года назад +21

    I love the sass in this vid. :D

  • @benjaminmiddaugh2729
    @benjaminmiddaugh2729 4 года назад +2

    EU4 videos: exactly what I think of when I want a video with a Wilhelm scream.

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 4 года назад +55

    Oh gosh, I can hear all the Aussies lining up to give you a piece of their mind. You have my sympathies. Whatever you do, don't drink the Fosters!

    • @Boiling_Seas
      @Boiling_Seas 4 года назад +8

      We only sell Fosters overseas, we don't drink it ourselves.

    • @callan6499
      @callan6499 4 года назад +8

      Yeah don't drink it, it tastes awful, it's why we export it.

    • @YoHoOMirster
      @YoHoOMirster 4 года назад

      Oh God, don’t even say Fosters.

  • @giovannymiranda396
    @giovannymiranda396 3 года назад +2

    I come from the future to say that some of these countries already have their own missions and content in the 1.30 update

  • @infometrica
    @infometrica 3 года назад +1

    about Westphalia - you need to play as Frankfurt cuz it has missions about forming Westphalia.

  • @herecomesdatchin1327
    @herecomesdatchin1327 4 года назад +1

    Dang I didn't realize how recently these videos were made. I was under the impression that these were years old.

  • @YungDebuff
    @YungDebuff 4 года назад

    I found that in my All Greek to Me run that even though the Greek ideas are bad, they’re still better than the Venetian ideas.

  • @bambusbjorn3756
    @bambusbjorn3756 4 года назад +2

    I am a simple man. I see a new Alzabo video, I click.

  • @rileysteer5757
    @rileysteer5757 4 года назад

    For a video Idea for EU4, top ten most interesting cultures to play as?

  • @lamename2010
    @lamename2010 4 года назад

    From the developer comment on the latest dev diary, I doubt that they have improved the Scandinavia Events and Mission tree. He said that they haven't worked on it and that it is for future updates and are only focusing on central Europe.

  • @rickusjamesus
    @rickusjamesus 4 года назад

    In CK2's new After the End Old World mod, top 10 interesting starts!

  • @insertgoodchannelnamehere
    @insertgoodchannelnamehere 3 года назад

    In one Castile game greece somehow appeared on Cyprus before being re-annexed by the ottomons. I think that there were greek rebels on Cyprus and the ottomans were too busy having their navy shitstomped by me to take them down.

  • @acundo8888
    @acundo8888 3 года назад

    bruh i havent seen alzabo for a while and sae the ironside intro thought i accidentaly clicked on an isp video

  • @DoRhado47
    @DoRhado47 4 года назад

    Can you please make the top 10 worst military advanced states (with less morale/ less discipline and worst troops)?

  • @w5527
    @w5527 4 года назад

    I associate the IronSide intro so much with iSorrow that I was like, “AM I sure I’m not on iSorrowProductions’ channel?”

  • @ghostofathens6600
    @ghostofathens6600 4 года назад +3

    I love playing as greece is very good and you can form Macedonian empire and Byzantium

  • @lynxraide
    @lynxraide 4 года назад +1

    South Australia would like to have a word with you about your prison colony reference...

  • @imaEnVideo
    @imaEnVideo 4 года назад +2

    "Your disapointement, is sure to be immersurable..." AND....? Finish the quote!

  • @nilred1791
    @nilred1791 2 года назад +1

    Since 2020 it is much easier to form Westphalia. I did it playing as Aachen. I guess it is all about Empereor DLC. But it is funt to play as them now.

  • @joncowart1321
    @joncowart1321 4 года назад

    Do top 10s for civ 6, you can do worst and best civs, and pantheons etc

    • @AlzaboHD
      @AlzaboHD  4 года назад

      To be honest I don't have civ 6 yet, was hoping for a "complete GOTY edition" at some point so that I can get it without paying too much for DLC

  • @theomegapyrope9715
    @theomegapyrope9715 4 года назад

    just played eu4 just played eu3
    but fantastic video
    (do a eu3 list plz)

  • @user-tb5qb1yc4q
    @user-tb5qb1yc4q 2 года назад

    shan is kinda useful because if you ally all shan cultured nations you can essentially form it just through the mission

  • @hinzkunzinger7891
    @hinzkunzinger7891 4 года назад

    It´s astonishing what people go through for some flavour. Because that´s what you really get from forming them
    (though not playing as them, lacking specific mecanics...)
    Many (ok, some) of these nations are also "dream goals" you can aim for - but once you´re there, you basically won and don´t have anything to do.
    Yes, playing as HRE is boring. But getting there is what its all about - what else would you even aim for once you have this tag?
    Things are different for smaller "stepping stone" nations.
    For me, they are more like easter eggs when once in a dozen games the AI forms one of them. Like "hey, what´s that? And I thought I´d seen everything by now"

  • @der_ast3275
    @der_ast3275 4 года назад +1

    I am a simple man. I see an al AlzaboHD video. I watch it. I send a like.

  • @arbikiuszelemelek3347
    @arbikiuszelemelek3347 4 года назад

    God I love you roasting those nations. I remember playing Denmark and thinking "Oh I can form Scandinavia to get better ideas right? I bet they are Sweden on steroids" BOI was I wrong

  • @triplesharigan
    @triplesharigan 4 года назад

    I have no problem with talking down Westphalia but Cologne is quite a nice pick in the HRE it's easy to become emperor and their idea set isn't all that bad if u like to play a smaller nation for a change it's quite good.

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex 4 года назад +3

    10:44 iceland would be out if the list if the name change to this

  • @perorin615
    @perorin615 4 года назад +2

    love the humour in this vid

  • @themark2medic216
    @themark2medic216 4 года назад +2

    It’s about to be April Fools Alzabo...
    Lord Haida is watching

  • @micshaz
    @micshaz 4 года назад +1

    forming scandinavia promotes all scandinavian cultures to accepted without occupying a slot which means you can have an obnoxious amount of fully accepted cultures if for example you decide to claim the british isles for yourself.
    this list would make a lot more sense if you swapped iceland and scandinavia around as there are actual benefits to the latter.