Makes sense. Running can be viewed as controlled falling. Leaning forward allows you to work in tandem with gravity. Being completely upright requires you to work harder in order to propel you forward. This is my take on it.
@@pafik_True, but this strength comes from larger muscles. The more upright you are, the more load/stress you put on your calves. I’ve injured both my soleous and gastrocnemius muscles numerous times….finally combatted by the slight forward lean. I’m so used to it now, that anytime I get too upright, I can feel noticeable deceleration.
My god, you've said in a sentence what I couldn't in a 7min video. YES! That's exactly right - a forward lean is the result of proper form, which you get from sound training (and genes).
As always, thanks for the simple breakdown and explanation. Love your videos and podcast! Always helpful and inspirational! As for the 'forward lean' idea, I like that you said that it should be a subconscious effort, and our training can help support proper running form and mechanics. I've also noticed that, over time, as I got stronger that my running form changed (for the better). I have more of a natural forward lean and I have become more of a mid foot striker.
Thanks! And I love this - it's a great example of form changes happening by themselves through sound training. Form is sort of like endurance in that you can't think your way to more endurance (or proper form). You have to work for it.
Very interesting! The lean from the ankles is subtle, unconscious, as you point out; but is also true that to go faster you should lean (or "fall", referring to Pose Method of Running) more, I think. Do you agree with me? Thanks.
Ive.often learned that you're supposed to walk straight and not.lean forward For me I don't run due to a health issue however I do power walking walking as fast as I can about a 13 minute mile just walking and for me the only way to do it is by leaning forward
I love the forward lean, but it also scares me quite a bit, for I tend to run really fast! I don't know if my legs will be able to handle the pounding at that pace! LOL!
I do a forward lean but only on a 30 minute jog, I find it less tiring and less breathlessnes and I can run without pause or stopping aside from running much faster. But still listen to the pros they know whats best. This only works for me.
Do you agree that there are 2 important meanings of forward lean? 1 how upright your torso is as you run, which I believe is an optional part of style, which might help you run fast, but is optional (you can see very fast runners with different leans). 2 a lean which is very difficult to spot, which arises because we have to lean into the wind we create ourself when running. This is not style, but inevitable, no choice. We don’t choose it, and we have to lean more when we run faster, and we have no lean on a treadmill. ???
I’m leaning forward a bit naturally with my whole body from my legs and when I try to become more straight it gets more difficult to hold my balance by just a tiny bit. Can someone tell if this is normal or bad and if then how to fix it?
There are plenty of elite runners who don't forward lean. It's a preference, but it won't make you run faster. Running makes you run faster. Do more of that. Many runners who do forward lean, do it from the waist, which is incorrect.
Use to happen to me, but i realized I was just bending at the waist and holding that position essentially with my lower back the entire run. Make sure you are truly leaning in a straight upright body
No strength needed at all. No thought needed. Economy irrelevant. Running form is things we can choose. The lean is not choice, but completely dependent on acceleration and wind resistance. Ask a physicist, it’s simple mechanics.
Makes sense. Running can be viewed as controlled falling. Leaning forward allows you to work in tandem with gravity. Being completely upright requires you to work harder in order to propel you forward. This is my take on it.
But at the same time you will have to continuously push yourself up to not to fall down, that's why it takes more strength.
@@pafik_True, but this strength comes from larger muscles. The more upright you are, the more load/stress you put on your calves. I’ve injured both my soleous and gastrocnemius muscles numerous times….finally combatted by the slight forward lean. I’m so used to it now, that anytime I get too upright, I can feel noticeable deceleration.
That explanation was crystal clear. The last time I did a Run with forward lean, I've have a lumbar injury.
Would you say a forward lean is the “result of proper form” rather than something you would intensionally do?
My god, you've said in a sentence what I couldn't in a 7min video. YES! That's exactly right - a forward lean is the result of proper form, which you get from sound training (and genes).
As always, thanks for the simple breakdown and explanation. Love your videos and podcast! Always helpful and inspirational! As for the 'forward lean' idea, I like that you said that it should be a subconscious effort, and our training can help support proper running form and mechanics. I've also noticed that, over time, as I got stronger that my running form changed (for the better). I have more of a natural forward lean and I have become more of a mid foot striker.
Thanks! And I love this - it's a great example of form changes happening by themselves through sound training. Form is sort of like endurance in that you can't think your way to more endurance (or proper form). You have to work for it.
Thanks for all!
I got so confused getting the conflicting information from different sources. This makes sense. Thanks!
Best to find one credible source and stick with that. Big org's (think Runner's World) present all views, even if some are less supported by evidence.
This is a no-nonsense channel with concise, clear, actionable, and down-to-earth information. No greasy kid stuff. 👍
Very interesting! The lean from the ankles is subtle, unconscious, as you point out; but is also true that to go faster you should lean (or "fall", referring to Pose Method of Running) more, I think. Do you agree with me? Thanks.
To get myself thinking forward, I "lean" my hips. By that, I mean I drive forward with my hips. That gets me forward without leaning at the waist.
Ive.often learned that you're supposed to walk straight and not.lean forward
For me I don't run due to a health issue however I do power walking walking as fast as I can about a 13 minute mile just walking and for me the only way to do it is by leaning forward
I would consider myself a good runner, but I can't really do a forward lean, if you look at Michael Johnson, thats kind of like me
I love the forward lean, but it also scares me quite a bit, for I tend to run really fast! I don't know if my legs will be able to handle the pounding at that pace! LOL!
I do a forward lean but only on a 30 minute jog, I find it less tiring and less breathlessnes and I can run without pause or stopping aside from running much faster. But still listen to the pros they know whats best. This only works for me.
Do you agree that there are 2 important meanings of forward lean?
1 how upright your torso is as you run, which I believe is an optional part of style, which might help you run fast, but is optional (you can see very fast runners with different leans).
2 a lean which is very difficult to spot, which arises because we have to lean into the wind we create ourself when running. This is not style, but inevitable, no choice. We don’t choose it, and we have to lean more when we run faster, and we have no lean on a treadmill.
???
I’m leaning forward a bit naturally with my whole body from my legs and when I try to become more straight it gets more difficult to hold my balance by just a tiny bit.
Can someone tell if this is normal or bad and if then how to fix it?
Great video thank you. Very clear explanation also of how not to run with a forward lean.
your channel is awesome sir...real information
I run better leaning from the waist. Almost like trying to pick up a ball off the ground while pushing as hard as I can into the ground with each leg.
No you don't. "I do better with incorrect form" is not something you should publicly admit.
There are plenty of elite runners who don't forward lean. It's a preference, but it won't make you run faster. Running makes you run faster. Do more of that. Many runners who do forward lean, do it from the waist, which is incorrect.
Worth a subscribe.
Would you be able to talk about percentage effort next time? When people say 90% effort, i have no clue what this means.
It means you run at 90% of your maximum effort. Not sure why that's so hard to understand
Say your maximum speed was 11 seconds for a hundred meter, you would run at a 12.1 ish pace.
Run fast but not as fast as you can
@@ezekielanderson9055 lol right
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I try to be like the shape of number 2
leaning foward while running gives me lower back pain
Use to happen to me, but i realized I was just bending at the waist and holding that position essentially with my lower back the entire run. Make sure you are truly leaning in a straight upright body
When you push someone from behind, 99 percent naturally fall forward and start to run
The only thing you did wrong in this video is said dive in instead of lean in.
No strength needed at all. No thought needed. Economy irrelevant. Running form is things we can choose. The lean is not choice, but completely dependent on acceleration and wind resistance. Ask a physicist, it’s simple mechanics.
That's right, you don't need any strength to run well and "economy irrelevant." This guy is brilliant!
Runners are so bad at teaching. Running from points
The only thing you did wrong in this video is said dive in instead of lean in.
Missed opportunity! 😂