DEWALT FA vs FLEX Turbo (Hammer Drills)
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Of course they both failed with the speedbore. There was a huge knot in the wood.
Should’ve had a low speed time and a few ten foot flat drops onto the concrete.
Can't wait for the XGT hammer drill to hit this channel, great video!
XGT monsters
Xgt beats both these drills on power and torque and quality i would say
I need the makita xgt hp001g beast but was looking at the 18lxt xph14 dhp468 drill cause im not on the xgt platform yet
@@micjubba709 just get the XGT!
I initially got the rear handle saw, it was so damn good I started moving into the xgt line. The drill absolutely blew my mind with how damn good it is!
If you either need a good drill or a good circular saw, the XGT line is for you!
Both of these drills are incredibly powerful 👍
Drives me nuts that you push the drills chuck into the concrete. Its like nail on a chalkboard!
lol
I tape them off now for a certain depth
I just picked up the flex man love how fast the batteries charge.
I am not a troll or a hater, but your video was hilarious! You would drill through clean wood with one brand and then try to drill through a KNOT with the other brand. If you want to be creditable in your tests, you had better understand the material (wood) you're using to test your tools. Other than that, I do like how you try to be fair and honest about testing tools. Keep it up!
Great video! When doing the speed bore test you drill right into a thick knot of wood for both brands which any tool will have trouble getting through. I’d like to see Dewalt and flex go at their speed 2 speeds in a non knotted spot.
Very true in the Dewalt 5ah 18650 comparison to the 6ah 21700. The power of the tool and performance is noticeable.
Turbo mode increases torque and speed. It does not decrease torque as its just applying more power from the battery. It isn't any kind of physical gear change.
Deal with it.
@@ManCaverTools I wasn't criticizing your video, nor do I care which of the drills win. I'm just letting you know how they work because it seems like you think the turbo mode increases speed and decreases torque. Just trying to help.
@@ManCaverTools what a great attitude you have… man child.
I believe the dewalt you used was the flexvolt disadvantage model given that no flexvolt battery was used. Still an interesting and useful comparison nonetheless - but run it again with a flexvolt battery please!
I already did multiple videos on the flecvolt advantage. a flex volt advantage battery is not better than a battery with 21700 cells in it when its on a felxvolt advantage tool
@@ManCaverTools Who makes FLEX drill driver ❓❓
Flex failed on the 10” lag due to the anti kick back. I don’t think Dewalt has anti kickback.
People can say whatever they want about Dewalt, but they have come out strong lately.
The new impact wrenches and drills are really impressive.
I think Dewalt got tired of being outsold by other brands.
heck yea they have
When were they outsold?
@@WontSeeReplies Dewalt has been outsold by Milwaukee and other brands for several years.
By outsold, I mean that people have been buying the other brands way more than Dewalt. Why do you think SBD is in financial trouble?
You did the speed bore test in a knot? What did you expect
Good job, man. If i could suggest one thing, it would be that you match the increased font size to the “winner” of your test when you’re editing. Showing them side by side is enough to know the most recent result. Visually it’s more impactful to have the winner in a larger or distinctive font.
The anti kickback on the Flex is super sensitive. It’s a lot like the gen 4 Milwaukee, but you can shut the feature off on the Milwaukee.
correct, each brand has the setting for the anti kick, some are set to soon
@@ManCaverTools I agree, but you can disable the anti kickback on the gen 4 Milwaukee and the Bosch 1330.
Tools and Tactics said that the Flex isn’t quite as sensitive if you use the 2.5 amp battery.
Should’ve used the 6 flexvolt on the dewalt
That's what I thought as well. Didn't get that at all. That's also the battery the drill comes with when you buy the kit.
Hes done videos where he proves this battery is stronger than the flexvolt 6 amp hour.
That was the Power Detect from Lowe’s I thought. I’m just saying to me it would have made more sense to use the Flexvolt battery with the Flexvolt Advantage instead of the battery that comes with the Power Detect.
@@skolsaw1080 to you it would make sense because you don’t have all the facts.
The flex volt batteries don’t give this drill any advantage, it’s just shady marketing from dewalt.
@@SweetStat lol 😂 ok well.....thanks for setting me straight.
Bro the whole point of having that dcb-999 is the more power with a flexvolt battery used....
By the way, the Flex is on sale for $179 with two batteries, a charger and a bag.
The Dewalt Power Detect is around $300.
not too shabby
@@ManCaverTools The combo kits are more competitively priced. The Flex is $349, and the Dewalt is $379. Those include the impact driver.
Paring the dcd999 with the 9ah FV battery would be a more decent comparison
Agreed.
Which takes abuse better is all that matters. We need a dozen 3 foot drop tests.
If I’m not mistaken, by trying to put the lag in with the Flex so close to where you did it with the Dewalt without removing the Dewalt lag first, you compressed the wood.
That creates a higher wood density in that area, which makes it much harder for the Flex to complete the task.
This is a old video. Ive changed how I do these tests since this video I don’t even use logs anymore
@@ManCaverTools I think we’re all learning as we go through trial and error.
I’m thinking about getting the Flex since it’s on sale.
How would you compare it to the gen 3 and gen 4 Milwaukee hammer drills?
Flex is definitely a beast i have beat on it an its done some crazy tasks an asks for more love it!
Uhh aren't you supposed to be using a flex volt 20v/60v battery to get the benefits of extra power from the tool?
you dont get an advantage with those batteries. I already proved it in many videos
Clearly you aren't a subscriber lol. He's tested that, and no, it doesn't.
@@GuyFromJupiter thank you Spencer
Many tests out of this channel show the difference.
Don’t need to be a subscriber to comment. Many people only search what he want to watch.
@@jhonimastersipayung5874 he was just saying the I have a few videos already proving that fact on batteries
Another one. Ever thought of getting 12 ah batteries for each tool to do head to head like The DeWalt 12 ah FlexVolt, M18 12.0, Flex 12 ah and any others that you may carry that has a 12 ah battery?
A 8ah with 21700 cells is more than enough for a drill dont need a massive 12ah battery thats just for capacity and runtime of the tool not performance or power
@@micjubba709 Yes. But did I say just drills?
@@toolskii as its a video about drills going head to head i thought thats what you where talking about
@@toolskii even most the other tools 12ah will just improve runtime not power or performance
@@micjubba709 Oh Yeah. I should of been more specific. I do apologize.
I honestly thinking Flex might put out a 12V line if they keep expanding. If they plan to.
Those drills r crazy strong
Человек сравнил в перчатках Milwaukee ,я так люблю этот юмор )
I enjoy from your videos 😊
Just curious as to why you didn't use the 6amp hr Flexvolt Battery on the Flexvolt Advantage. Seems to me that the Flexvolt battery would've bee the obvious choice.
That's because he knows that 6 amp hour flexvolt can actually do it but it's real power is actually the 9 amp hour, I know because I did the same test myself on the same drill bit which is why I'm going to buy me DeWalt Flex advantage drill cos we don't have Flex in our country, I'D say that the 9 amp is Dewalts turbo way for power
Because the 6amp flexvolt uses the 18650 cell batteries compared to the xr using 21700 to match with the Flex’s battery. I’d would say to use the 9 amp flexvolt since that one does have the bigger cells
This Hilti drill has more speed gears than some cars😂
I really would not mind switch my power tools over to Dewalt but I use my impact driver a lot and I’m really about the 887 but dewalt hammer drills are top dawg
I’ve been using the brushed 885 for years. I will take it to my grave 🤣😂. I love that little impact
@@powertools2375 mine is finally going out after lots of good years.
Have you tried the 1400 inch pound Flex drill that doesn’t have hammer mode?
My biggest questions all the time is why do people still keep using 1/4” socket adapters for all these torques?
flex 24v. I would like to know what the weight is as it comes in the suitcase since in my country we pay weight tax, it would be very helpful
I really want to tesdt the flex first hand but love my 998 paried with powerstack. Wow very close but suprise on the hammer feature. Shows what newer tech can do.
I would have liked to have seen you utilize speed 2 on the DeWalt more often but hey, nice comparison anyway.
The my main question I have is what is the turbo button for? Why not have it on turbo all the time lol? seems kind of gimmicky.
I'm assuming the turbo mode temporarily pushes the power beyond the battery cells' continuous amp rating until it overheats, and then disables the feature until the temperature gets back down to normal
The flex drilling the concrete was impressive
I agree, it has an awesome hammer feature
Hey everyone. I just wanted to add something.
Videos like this are a great resource when trying to figure out what brand is best for you. At the end of the day, it’s really about personal preference, though.
I can say that I see more people moving away from Dewalt, in favor of other brands.
Dewalt has a lot of power, but not enough safety, such as thermal shutdown and anti kickback. They tend to keep going until they break or hurt the user.
Check out comments and reviews to see for yourself.
F the incompetent user. Breakdown is a different story.
Personally, we tried cordless Milwaukee ten years ago and every one broke. Meanwhile every DeWalt since the 90s is still going. Although the older ones are weak. Useless on a site.
The future may be Flex. But they have some drop trials to prove it.
That a good competition flex and Dewalt there both great tools
I’ve always said if the flex has an 8amp power or above I noticed it won’t stall and it may not be faster with the 8 but it has that extra juice to pull from 🤷🏾♂️that’s what watching a lot of reviews has shown me
I gotta disagree on the hammer feature on the Ryobi HP because I drill concrete for tapcons all the time to work and it's ok but not as great as it's made to be. That's one the main reasons I wanna switch to flex.I also have the gen 3 hammer drill and my experience is the Milwaukee is just as good or better. I saw the vs video with the flex vs Ryobi HP hammer drill and you only drilled one hole with the Ryobi. I think it might've been a soft spot in the concrete why it did so well. It's true what you said that tools don't perform the same every time. I can hear the beast in the flex hammer feature. I'm just saying what my experience is. I remember watching another vs video with the flex and the other hammer drill lost at concrete but I remember the drill coming to a stop for a little bit and I said it was something in the concrete that did that or maybe dust but I'd like to see another concrete test between the flex and Ryobi to make me a believer. I would like to see the vs video with the flex and Ryobi on concrete only. I haven't seen it yet
Ryobi lol interesting.. definitely gonna watch that one 👍🏽
Great vid!
I call it if u look on the torches test channel it shows the 8ah battery produces a lot more power so can u use a flex volt battery whith the dewalt and do it again
Hi Dave, in my opinion these tools didn’t fail they both did outstanding extremely powerful and I saw you almost lost it and kept hold of it, there both a beast and performance is acceptional, just my opinion, ty, Bob,
they both are very powerful tools
@@ManCaverTools it’s possible the flex is slightly more powerful, it’s mind blowing lol,
Dewalt performs very well with 10inch lag 😁
Yeah. Means this Dewalt can finish more heavy job compare to the Flex.
Maybe he also need to test the maximum diameter and length of the bit at the concrete test and see if we get the similar result.
You did not use the flexvolt advantage? Why not?
because the XR batteries with 21700 cells destroys the flexvolt battery in the flexvolt advantage tool
Another great video as always. not hating but dont you already have an 8ah battery for the power detect anyway? kinda surprised you didnt just use that.
I borrowed that battery
I was thinking about getting the Flex while it’s still on sale.
How would you compare it to the gen 3 and gen 4 Milwaukee hammer drills?
Flex is a good too brand to get into. they have a nice assortment of tools and they will only develop more
@@ManCaverTools How do you think the Flex hammer drill compares to the Milwaukee?
you're the good one bro
I'm reading some comments and YES! Why do you KNOT SEE the KNOT!
Turbo mode engaged for flex, but no flexvolt battery for DFA? I know, Dewalt has three speeds, but let them both have their best foot forward.
Agree, would like to see this done with the 6 or 9Ah FlexVolt batteries.
Until then, I’d say DeWalt performed well even with a double handicap (XR 6.0 vs Flex 8.0)
The 21700 cell batteries that he used are stronger than the 6 amp flex volt battery. Theres a video on his channel proving it.
With FA drill, even if it were 18650s, there should be a noticeable difference. I’m not saying that 21700 cells in a 6ah 20v battery aren’t better than using 18650s in a normal 20v max tool, however with the FA drill, per manufacturer claims and what other reviewers have relayed is there is a power difference. Enough to beat this flex tool? Maybe not. Just saying that it would be nice to see the flexvolt advantage tool run with a flexvolt battery instead of the 20v battery.
I already proved that the FA battery isnt good for a FA tool. The XR 21700 cells in it will be better in the Dewalt FA tool
I want to ask what everyone’s experience has been with Flex.
I’m debating on getting the turbo hammer drill because Lowe’s has a great deal on it right now.
Flex tools are worth buying into. When it comes to buying into a line of tools the most important information on a brand is do they have the tools you need available to buy
@@ManCaverTools I love the ergonomics of Dewalt, but the hammer drills I would buy by Dewalt are expensive. Also Dewalt’s warranty is a little shady. Thibs had to pay over $100 to get one of his Dewalt tools repaired because the Dewalt warranty only covers one year of service.
I’m open to having more than one battery platform because I believe that’s about the only way to build the best set for the buck.
I think you were leaning more on the flex tool.
this Is an old video but yes. its a new brand and the flex tools are powerful
How about with the Flexvolt 6ah battery?
the felxvolt advantage would lose with that battery
@@ManCaverTools it does better with the 6ah XR?
@@bennettshfd2 yes it does with a XR battery that has 21700 cells inside
@@ManCaverTools I had no idea. Why would they use only 18650 instead of 21700? That's crazy!
@@ManCaverTools I believe the new 6.0 flexvolt batteries also use 21700s.
Great Video . Just one suggestion, when hammerdrilling into the cement I would do the best out of 3 holes , because cement is soo inconsistent, you could hit a small rock or something, just my 2 cents,jm ⁹
I thank you for your feedback Brian
Wouldn’t mind trying flex I don’t know if it could make me wanna change from Milwaukee to them but be nice to try
K, I think you need to look at the overall picture when deciding to go to a different platform. I’m fully committed the Milwaukee M12/M18 lines. Having said that I have a Dewalt Flexvolt Table Saw, older XR Max Drill and Impact and the XR Multi-tool. They’re all good tools, but I only got them because Milwaukee hadn’t come out with their table saw yet, only had a brushed multi-tool and my first lithium ion purchase was the Dewalt XR Drill and Impact combo). I like the fact that Milwaukee is committed to their product lines, they’re constantly expanding them, have a quality product, good warranty service and great customer service. This goes for not only their flagship M18 tool line, but also their M12 line. I can’t say the same about Dewalt, Bosch or for that matter any other tool manufacturer. They have M12 tools that best the competitions 18 volt.
I’ve recently added the M12 23 Gauge Pin Nailer. With it’s nitrogen charged spring mechanism, it’s nothing less than spectacular! It rivals my air compressor and Ridgid 23 gauge nailer. It has features (adjustable drive depth, led light) that no other pin nailer have and it can sink nails in hard or soft wood, leaving a very nice small hole. I also purchased the M18 Gen 2 18 Gauge Brad Nailer. Another best in class nailer, which is simply amazing to use. Those are just some of the reasons why I stay with Milwaukee. Where are Flex’s nailers?
Most of the testing with Flex against the competition has been done with drills and impacts. The Milwaukee M18 Gen 3 Fuel 1/2” Hammer Drill is more than capable and has been the benchmark that the competition bangs their drills against. The competitors new drills all look to be at least 50% larger and bulkier than the Milwaukee Gen 3 hammer drill. The drill is almost 4 years old, so I fully expect a Gen 4 to come out within a year or so. The other benchmark has been the Gen 3 Fuel 1/4” Impact Driver, which is very powerful. Most of us have a lot of drills and impacts, e.g. M12/M18 Surge, M12 Fuel 1/2” Hammer Drill, M12 Fuel 1/4” Impact Driver (love this tool with a 6 amp battery), etc. The last thing most of us need is another drill or impact.
Why would I ever consider switching to Flex? Are they going to give me a trade in allowance on my Milwaukee tools? I also don’t like lugging around a Sawzall, as most tasks can be done with a smaller tool, e.g. M12 Fuel Hackzall or M18 Fuel Hackzall. Does flex have smaller one handed recip saws that get the job done with ease?
Ha, Dewalt all day long, everyday, I'm not bias at all, ok maybe a little, 🕳️
use any tool that gets the job done,y do people favor a certain brand name.Is Dewalt going too pay your electric bill if u asked them,I think not.Be happy with any tool that gets it done.Not too many people get paid for driving a 20 inch lag bolt into a piece of wood in 10 seconds
Fair response, Dewalt didn't ask me make a positive post, just really like Dewalt tools, and am lucky enough to own some, 👍
@@sonycarp8271 Dewalt was always my favorite tool as well,I own a bunch of them.Now I own a bunch of Flex tools,and Ridgid tools and Makita.I just love well made tools
The more I hold the flex the less I like it
It's ergonomics are not very good hopefully the Gen 2 will be better
I only had the opportunity to try flex tools once. I didn’t like them at all! They didn’t feel right and they didn’t sound right.
Might have been the ergonomics that were throwing me off.
They preformed good tho, can’t argue with that!
@@SweetStat yes the feel in hand is horrible.
Tripping balls
Really,what was that just something to say,Ergonomics.I will use any drill or tool too get the job done,and get paid
@@gregorymandile2321 yes, it was just something to say. Just like everyone including you in the comments are doing. Yes of course if your where you can't afford to get the tools that feel good in your hands then use whatever makes you happy. I prefer to use tools that offer comfortability and power since I use them everyday all day
Plz make more video ❤
FlexVolt advantage was failure of a drill.
Also I think the 2021 power detect was majorly detuned compared to the early 2020 models we got.
How would I check what year it is
@@justinrozon7
Well for me I got mine in 2020. Lol. But they put put manufacturers date on the battery base.
Dewalt have been ripping of ignorant consumers with dishonest marketing ever since they released their 20v tools
Shouldn't the 999 perform better with the FV battery?
the XR 21700 cells performs better in the Flexvolt than the Flexvot battery does. check the the Flexvolt vs Dewalt power detect video
@@ManCaverTools I figured the FV used 21700 also 🤔. But I've been wanting to go with the 999 hearing it can use the 60v supply as a "turbo" in situations of needed extra umph.
@@FordRanchero289 it did in my case when I tested my Milwaukee gen 3 against my brother-in-laws new 999 and his old 996 about a month ago ,found out the 9 amp flexvolt battery did match my generation 3 high output 6 and 8 Milwaukee batteries but the difference was that if the RPM on the 999 was the same as my Milwaukee then the 999 I feel would be a little bit stronger than my gen 3,I pushed them both to breaking point to find that out, in other words I thrashed them both along with 996 as well,using 32mm flute augers on 6 test runs on hardened Douglas firs, pity we don't have Flex in this country
DeWALT is the best
Have you had any issues with your Flex batteries leaking?
I have not had any issues with these batteries. at the same time. I dont use the Flex batteries as much as other brands. I mainly use my Flex batteries to power a their radio
Have you ever tested the Bosch bi turbo?
I have not, I haven't tested every single tool ever made
@@ManCaverTools I was just asking because it seems to be a very good drill, and it’s $199 on the Lowe’s website, plus you can get a free 8 amp battery and a charger.
The Flex failed on the lag because of the anti kickback feature.
I don’t think Dewalt has anti kickback.
By the way, the Flex battery doesn’t have 21700 cells. They’re just advanced 18650 cells.
some anti kick back feature activate later then others. not all ATC will respond the same
@@ManCaverTools I still don’t believe that Dewalt claims to have anti kickback on their drills, but I could be wrong.
Ridgid seems to have a really sensitive anti kickback, and the auto stop on the gen 4 Milwaukee is really sensitive too.
@@DiligentDave1966 sorry I didn't answer your question. this specific model does not have ATC. but for the tools that do sometimes they activate too soon.
New drinking game … drink evry time he says time 😂
lol
Should’ve used a flexvolt battery lol
Did not Black & Decker buy DeWalt?
The knot was what stoped DeWalt...i think that DeWalt will do it np in speed 2
Hey will you be doing a video on that 4 speed Hilti?
Can you do the dcd998 with 8ah battery next?
I think I did that video already
Your phone charger must be destroyed lol
Flex vs power detect? Hammer drills?
I already have that video uploaded
@@ManCaverTools but you should do a retest because that test was flawed. Otherwise both the power detect and flex are beasts
Power detect is the best hammer drill out there. It blew Milwaukee out of the water.
Where can one find these flex tools?
The test was biased from the very beginning . He uses the DeWalt on the softer part of the wood and the flex on hard Knott.
wrong, this channel is not biased. why would I be biased. I am not the other channels that will doctor results to please their sponsors. try again
what a lot of people need to realize is that the bigger channels no longer test tools out because they wont have to go against their sponsors. Biased reviews are sort of gone. because the people that were biased no longer test tools out.
I dont think you understand its the flexs anti kick back feature. Its way more sensitive than other drivers.
Of course you had to rhyme 😂
In the knot you should have put the dewalt in in first gear and let it run. I think the dewalt would have ran through the knot with no problem.
FLEX is a beast !
Concrete test by flex fall on another hole. You could see the debris flying. Try it again.
Daa that it went into a whole, both of those drill went into a "pre drilled hole" .Maybe next time listen.
It makes a big difference in battery thee 999 is a Flex advantage you should be using a 9 ah flex volt battery to be fare since your using the turbo on the Flex this isn't a fair test plus your using a 8ah on the Flex and a 6ah on the Dewalt this is a huge advantage for Flex this is a set up against dewalt and I'm impartial I'm a Milwaukee guy make it a equal test of course Flex will win you gave it a huge advantage
the power detect drill wouldve done alot better in my opinion
heck yea it would
DeWalt Power Detect Baby ....
it is a beast
Power Detect to rule them all!!
Flex looks like it's made by dewalt
Dewalt only
Man Caver Tools, please re-do the review again! Please! 🙏
Next time do Flex 24V Turbo Hammer Drill WITH the Flex's 12.0Ah Stack lithium pouch cell battery VS the Dewalt's top notch Flagship Hammer Drill the Dewalt dcd999 Flexvolt with Flexvolt 12.0Ah 60V battery. I wanna the See the Fair and Honest Review.
Philly Fixed 👈 this guy this tool reviewer is kind of a Biased he used DeWalt dcd999 with a Flexvolt battery 60V VS The Flex 24V Hammer Drill with only the standard 5.0Ah 18650 Cell Battery. So it's a biased review the way I see it. I'm not a fan of either one of those tools because I'm a kind of guy that is not loyal to any tool brand, I use whatever tools I have and the tools that is around me. But the results of the test IF you're gonna conduct it, will determine my judgement wether or not I should replace my old Bosch cordless hammer drill with a DeWalt dcd999 Flexvolt or the Flex 24V turbo Hammer Drill with stack lithium pouch cell battery. Thanks! And more power to you!
What’s wrong with your mic
I out the volume on the mic to high in the video
The hammer feature is still a joke compared to a real hammer drill…
But its still an option to have
Dewalt needs flex battery
Flex is concrete monster
Wonder when makita gonna bring out a single battery 80v 5ah or 10ah drill 😂🤣😂that dominates the market for years
lol
First
Milwaukee vs flex
I can't even watch this it's ridiculously in favor of Flex
It's cause your trying to run it through a knot in the wood! Do you seriously not know that being a person that is evaluating power tools. Lol
Driving lag bolts with a drill...wrong(oops caught me off guard) lucky you didn't break you wrist. Use an impact driver. Drilling a large hole in concrete with one of those drills(my hand is numb, dah)...wrong. Use a sds rotary hammer drill, right tool for the right job. For Gods sake use the right tool for the right job! This could be an advertisement for what not to do with a drill.
It’s a stress test.
was this a SDS hammer drill video? No its not. why would I use a sds drill on a video that isnt supposed to have sds drills in it?
Get.him david!... get em!.. Dave BABYPOWDER...COME ON WIT IT! 😆
This is hammer drill test. He's trying to push it to the limits. Has to be this way
Second
Dewalt 20v flex volt advantage is a beast more powerfull than the flex torque wise ...hammer drilling flex takes 1st place
Not a fair comparison
yes it is
RYOBI still won, and it wasn't even in this Video.