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Holy $#!+. What do you recommend for studying?!
Literally came here to thank you for this roast. I've tried so hard to see the worth in Notion and I genuinely have nothing good to say about Google Do--I mean, Notion.
You know you can link a video directly in the short's description right?
And it's also clickable and faster
I use notion to organize my studies but spent the entire time organizing notion.
me tooo Bro
I know the feeling 🤦
@@trix1928 Same here. I found it so confusing to use, so I decided to delete Notion from my phone and use Google Calander instead 😅
Its a tool building tool. If you are not able to build tools, dont do it.
relatable
I use notion to track subjects, make homework, build databases, do my daily job and other things. I think it depends on how you use it, which depends entirely on how much you know about its functions
Exactly, you can use the tool anyway you like & apply learning methods to any tool. "Study" is about methods; Notion is a tool. So the answer is to reject the question notion for studying. These YT'ers confuse their viewers/customers more than help them.
@@joshallison153 that is the most intelligent and differentiated answer i saw on yt for a time. cheers bud
@@joshallison153u r right bro
can u plz provide me yout template
I 100 percent agree with that.
Obsidian: brainstorm,ideation,jurnaling
Notion: manajement project
Ticktick: task,pomodoro & todolist
Evernote: klipping web,research
ChatGPT: study&research
G-Cal: Scheduling
Keep: keyword taking note
ColorNote: save id Account with pass scurity
but i overwelming wkwk
Underrated comment
The fact that you mentioned what I used
Best List
Notion can handle web clipping and scheduling as well
Time to do tasks: Zero
I simply dont understand notion thats it. So i dont use it
Honestly if you try to get into it, it's super easy. I started using it for note taking and a week later I'm rly comfortable with it 🤷🏻♀️ there's a lot of features but they are easy to grasp and you don't need to use each onr anyway
It also the way you think, I also use notion and think that it’s really easy to use, word is for me just hard to understand. My friend on the other half uses word and really finds it easy and he thinks notion is really complicated.
@@olivierk1178I love both of those programs, just a beginner to Notion tho hehe
Fr, I watched more than 5 videos on how to use it and i still can't fully understand how exactly it works. I think google todo list is better.
@@olivierk1178when you say "word" are talking about another memo app for your phone?
Gives zero reasons why
and illusions of learning with relationships were strongest of reasons behind why. - we need to have some spacial depth while constructing understanding for ourselves
He gave the reason… linearity.. he is saying notion provides you a memory specific functionality but not learning.. learning is different than memorising
@@prasadpatil50 ah thanks it looks like my first comment got cut off. That exactly
Watch it again, he listed off like 4 things
@@prasadpatil50so what’s a better alternative?
It all comes down to skill issue. Once you'll able to learn how to use Notion in and out, it can be used for any purpose depending on your needs.
Notion isn't a tool to study or taking notes on but for creating a all in one workflow environment 😂
You partially right and still wrong since I've seen and read some 'notions' that have boosted my knowledge
@@thejomvikingWhy not just use pen and paper?
@@Bozzigmupp i am not taking notes on notioon...i am reading someones else notes😂
@@Bozzigmupp hmmm can't CTRL F on paper
I thought he was talking about the song and I got confused
It’s a matter of how you use it. Our son built a template that took him from 3.42 GPA to straight-A’s. It supports now him with audio-text capture and GPT summaries, and reciew/reinforcement workflow, Ask. AI front ends it, and he created his own Flash-cards generator in Notion. Also of great value to him, since he is busy with simultaneous work and other things- it saves him almost 10 hours a week on studies.
I went to and graduated from a few top-5 Universities and have been a researcher for decades, and all I can say is that it is obvious why you didn’t provide any “better” alternative- it is easy to critique anything, but you obviously have no “better” recommendation to offer,
That's absolutely great! Can you help me with "Flash Card Generator" & related things about your workflow. Really sounds interesting.
I agree but pls explain more I'm interested to hear the good things about notion
Notion didn’t do that. Your son did. Kudos.
@@SuperForged just like any tool it’s, how you use it. Name another app that has the capability of Notion that can basically be anything anybody wants.
@@chadgarza9069well if you’re willing to put the time into it, you can do a lot of the things (and more) with Obsidian
Im using it for notes as i could simply not write by hand any longer, considering I am doing online study.
I just set up my study notes in a very nice, simple, and organised way, and I am loving it.
Full vid on changing Notion into a power studying tool when?
Notion is database-why would anyone want to use notion the square peg for that round hole?
I was about to ask that too
@@Scottlp2 for some people (like me) it's a lot more important that everything be in the same place and notion is a great tool for that
@@ishathakor wouldn’t that depend on how much energy it takes to keep everything in one place vs using something more suitable?
@@ishathakordoesn't make any sense creating a database for your favorite movies and games and another database for college annotations, and then a grocery list and to-dos, and call it all-in-one.
90% of the all in one stuff has no connection with each other whatsoever.
Note taking apps as the name suggests are for taking notes. You are NOT supposed to learn FROM these apps. As far as taking notes is concerned, I think notion is perfect. It has almost all the tools that a note taking app needs to have and it gets the job done. Thats it! Also state your reasons clearly and use simple words. You're using difficult words to prove your point.
I personally use notion to stay more organised with my life and work
I agree.. it can be used for flexible data keeping though.
Notion for students is good, but the act of moving databases and micro management of your digital brain - is the thing that makes it unproductive.
When saying stuff like that it‘s important to say why you got to this conclusions. Notion on its own is all or nothing, you make it work. It also depends on what you need as a person. I need Notion to process my mental processes and you maybe don‘t such external support systems.
I just think it’s important to put emphasis, that it’s personal and it can be overrated for you, but an absolute necessity for someone else.
It can give you illusion of doing being busy/working, but it‘s has mental health benefits and it‘s not a waste of time.
i agree.. its a matter of persinal preferenc. So its subjective
I need a full video of your criticisms on Notion and how to use it properly! I'm currently (year 12) trying to change my study process (reason: fine grades but barely free time and overly stressed). The first thing I "tripped over" during my research was Notion and I thought it would be good to organize my To Dos and make study plans.
Edit: I do not plan it on using it to TAKE notes. For this, I'm working with OneNote.
Hi Olivia! I felt really relatable reading your comment😢😊 and I just graduated from school, so I guess we’re the same grade. I often get overly anxious and stressed during school year to the point I couldn’t find free time to do anything I like not even simple things that don’t need effort😢 I just wanted to express myself😅 sorry if I talked too much…but I’m glad that someone is on the same boat as me😊😊❤❤
Hope you find a solution to this stress issue❤
@@mennamamdouh4297 Hey, I totally relate to your comment, too! I just graduated and have no motivation for literally anything. But I eventually have to overcome this.. we see how it goes
How did you make the most out of One Note? I was also planning on using it for studying!
@@stefi_2774 I don't know, it definitely takes less effort than Notion. I think OneNote has a great organization system itself (the notebooks, sections and pages). It's very easy to use.
If you want to use it for studying I suggest to create a notebook "year 23/24" for example. Then you add your courses as sections. Let's say "chemistry", "physics" and "literature". I then made pages for each topic. For "physics" it might me "atomic models", "quantum physics" and "radioactivity". For every lesson or headline I then added subpages, e.g. "protons and neutrons", "Rutherfords" experiment" and "quarks" for atomic models.
If you want to use one notebook forseveral school years you easily can change the name to something like "highschool" and group the sections of each year together.
A great thing I learned was that notes itself don't have to be beautiful, instead they should be practical. I knew many people who put hours into stlying their notes but in the end didn't know the contents of it. But still, some memorized it making their notes insta-worthy.
I hope I could help you a little bit. I might have to add that I use a Microsoft Surface (Tablet and Notebook as 1 device). The pen is great for taking hand written notes. It has so many functions!
@@stefi_2774know that it also has link features. But I prefer “Copy Link to Paragraphs” more since just creating link with [[]] forms a new page.
And you can draw in the onenote, which you can ink replay too!!!
And then embedding RUclips or any webpage links.
And you can turn a page into subpage.
And so
It depends how you use the tool, I created my own workflow and it helps me a lot for study
You got an illusion of learning then😂
What's a better software/method mate?@@kamigero
I feel like what you said was pretty broad, like, for note taking and the like I’d 100% agree that it’s not made for this at all. But for things like getting organized, creating to-do lists, setting up goals and deadlines, basically using it like your planner, in my opinion, it’s amazing. I’ve seen a lot of successful people who organize their studies all through notion
I do a lot of self study on a variety of different topics, so after I take my initial hand written notes on my iPad,
I type everything in an organized way in my notion “notebook” I have set up. I love how organized I can have all of these various different topics and how accessible it is! I basically use it as one Master Journal™️
I agree with this, I thought about using it for taking notes but then I realised the only way I can wright notes is in a WAY too linear way (even worse than linear paper notes) and its really hard to make relationships esp that it doesn't have any visual linking features like obsidian for example
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You have bigger issues if you cant spell "write"
What would be a non-linear note taking tool then?
Exactly. I used notion previously and now I mainly use obsidian and it's awesome❤.
Notion is best used for work with team and project management
nah it sucks in that regard as well. Click Up is so much better.
song notion lyrics:Sure it's a calming notion, perpetual in motion
But I don't need the comfort of any lies
For I have seen the ending and there is no ascending
Rise
Oh, back when I was younger, was told by other youngsters
That my end will be torture beneath the earth
'Cause I don't see what they see, when death is staring at me
I see a window, a limit, to live it, or not at all
If you could pull the lever to carry on forever
Would your life even matter anymore?
Sure it's a calming notion, perpetual in motion
But it's not what you signed up for
I'm sure there won't always be sunshine
But there's this momentary beam of light
You don't have to wait those salty decades
To get through the gate, it's all in front of your face
I'm sure there won't always be sunshine
I'm sure there won't always be sunshine
But there's this momentary beam of light
I could cross the ocean in a fit of devotion
For every shining second, this fragile body beckons
You think you're owed it better believing ancient letters
Sure it's a calming notion, but it's a lie...
"Using Notion in a minimalist way is key to achieving happy productivity. It’s all about focusing on what truly matters without getting overwhelmed by the tool itself. Productivity shouldn't be about obsessing over organizing tasks-it’s about simplifying your workflow to stay efficient and stress-free. Less is more!"
I just love how Notion is bringing new rich features in. Just started using as a complete beginner in early 2024. Steep learning curve but I'm loving it more each day. Mainly using it to study Data Science and Deep Learning courses. Enjoying every second spent on scripting Maths equation with LaTex code block, jotting my Python + Bash scripts and even drawing mind maps with Mermaid. Tools available are way unreal
Notion gives tons of tools for notes and planning. Ive used it for my exams and its been the best. You gotta know how to effectively design your workflow
then your bar is very low, and you'll be outclassed by someone with a better tool
there is a reason why Notion was universally hated by researcher, engineers, and all other people who write their own research papers a lot.
it's because it makes their job 10x harder and slower,
it bogged down your brain processing,
it's way too slow for accessing Information,
can't handle a long pages
Notion just Nerf you down, you get a lot of performance penalty from using Notion and wasting your potential
sure, if you never try other tools before, notion seems like a good deal, but for the real Pro, it stunted their growth
@@jensenraylight8011what's a better tool for researchers and engineers? Could u tell me?
Ive used notion for my study. My first semester in my degree, I got into the dean's list. I was a very unorganised student in high school. I was not a good student, but Notion really reallg helped me out. Dont listen to people's opinions. use it first and find out. peace~
Don't know much about this Justin Sung guy, but by watching his shorts, it feels like he says a whole bunch of nothing in an attempt to sell his course.
The whole point of using Notion is to use its Database feature and then represent the same data in different views. All the other features can be done in a word document
Im currently using notion, and I regret not knowing notion before. It's really good for organizing, notes, database etc. It increased my productivity.
it is over complicating to the things I need to simplify.
You’re right, I feel more cluttered when I use notion.
@@mennamamdouh4297so what are you using now
I spent several days grappling with the challenge of creating math equations in Notion, relying on extensive research and cheat codes. While this method may work for some, it proved to be a time-consuming ordeal for me, especially when dealing with subjects like mathematics, chemistry, physics, and computer science. Notion seemed ill-suited for equation-heavy courses, although it may be more suitable for content-based ones.
In my quest for a more effective solution, I contemplated returning to Word, primarily for easy printing and user-friendly layout capabilities. After making the switch, I couldn't be happier with the decision.
@@mennamamdouh4297use more simple options then
Exactly my thoughts. Maybe it's just not my cup of tea
Notion is best for keeping the clutter of all your thoughts and daily habits organized. It's good for managing the different categories of what you want to study, saving and compiling resources, but it was never meant for the process of studying itself. At least all that stuff is what I use it for.
If studying and learning is akin to books, notion is the bookshelf
It's good for study management though.
And second brain is good for all the bits of information (the books , the articles, the documentaries and the research papers) that are not for school.
can someone explain why this is? i use it and i like it, i dont get why its not good for studying
I use Notion to work. We recently switched to Notion, which has made it easier to organize and optimize our system. Notion is great, but it's a bit of a hassle that every single worker has to be a member and not a guest to use the calendar and other functions.
Not if you know how, when and what to use it for. You wont say a saw is overrated in cutting wood just because you don’t know how to use it properly.
Notion is good for if you are a type of person that loves tracking things, if it is outside of tracking things. You need to figure what app to use that isn't notion and why you use it. I personally use notion for tracking, but I use onenote for note taking because I am a university student. You have 15 weeks per semester. I need convenience for note taking then the modern way of pencil and paper to write notes. There's so much going on, and so little of time.
I agree with everyone here saying it depends on how you use notion! In college I def used notion and now that I use it for work, I understand why I struggled with notion in school.
the thing with notion is once you are set , everything is easy for you.Later on , you won't even rely on it , because you program your brain by using notion for your daily to-dos.
The actually worse thing about it is it’s potential to legitimate procrastination… „To really organize my study I have to build the perfect notion page and then I can start studying“
I like Notion for study because of the way that it helps me track subjects and projects, its a good tool overall if you know how to adapt it to yourself.
I used notion for studying microbiology and biochemistry, i produced very neat notes, but the problem is, trying to write notes to study from in notion is very limiting, you can't draw anything, or make graphs or anything similar though it was an amazing experience because i had the ability to link sources from the internet to phrases and names i needed to know more about. I don't believe notion wants to be a note taking app but it can be a great one if they went that way
a guy i watch ‘fromsergio’ said it perfectly. i work in notion & i think in obsidian. i can’t agree more with that. i recently switched my two business plus my personal stuff from clickup & todoist to notion, and it works incredibly well. however i do not have any journals or notes other than to jot down a sentence or two. i’d rather use obsidian to take extensive notes/journals
The moment after installing notion I got this video 😂😂😂
Me too 😂😂😂😂
@@focusreflect8223 bro now ?? Uninstalled??
Me too😅
It is a database; of course not designed for studying.
Well dont forget its a tool. If you expect a tool to think for you it's on you
Meanwhile me clicking on the short bc i thought he was talking abt the song:
Don’t be forced to switch to another app, trust me only use apps that is comfortable for you.
Sure it's a calming notion, perpetual in motion
But I don't need the comfort of any lies
For I have seen the ending and there is no ascending
Rise
Oh, back when I was younger, was told by other youngsters
That my end will be torture beneath the earth
'Cause I don't see what they see, when death is staring at me
I see a window, a limit, to live it, or not at all
If you could pull the lever to carry on forever
Would your life even matter anymore?
Sure it's a calming notion, perpetual in motion
But it's not what you signed up for
I'm sure there won't always be sunshine
But there's this momentary beam of light
You don't have to wait those salty decades
To get through the gate, it's all in front of your face
I'm sure there won't always be sunshine
I'm sure there won't always be sunshine
But there's this momentary beam of light
I could cross the ocean in a fit of devotion
For every shining second, this fragile body beckons
You think you're owed it better believing ancient letters
I've applied an old egyption learning system on Notion, and I'm planning to explain it on RUclips, then you'll know that Notion is for studying
when it comes to managing a business, making real time projects such as app developements or any research, Notion makes it a lot easier. Notion is best only for college students who study and do projects at the same time... for high school students and normal people... just a waste of time they keep organising stuff more than needed in notion rather than actually executing the task. choose wisely
So uh, what’s good for studying then??
I use Notion to make a repository for resources for learning and to track workout
I just don't use Notion a lot because you can't draw lines and simbols freely, which makes it difficult to write on a STEM class
I use Miro to make notes and embed them into notion. Notion I use for planning and keeping track of assignments.
If you're already bad at organizing and planning, Notion won't help you and will be too overwhelming. Notion's tools are only useful if you can create a functional, easy to use system and you have the discipline to stick to it.
I really thought he meant the spng Notion
Pretty sure Notion wasn't even made for study, rather it was made for project management and teamwork.
I think it would depend on how you use it. It's quite broad.
I love Notion, have been using it for almost 2 years. But I don't see how one would use it to study. I use it to track my studies and organize my notes, but I don't use it for actual studying.
I’ve been trying to use it for months and I just started following you. I’m a little depressed now 😂
Completely agree that Notion is overrated in every way. It's flexible, interesting, either love it or hate it, I'm in the latter camp.
Is a tool to keep organized and facilitate your studies, it is not a way to study
so what to choose then ?
Okay. So. What is good for study?
I’d like to know how you’re using it that it’s so inefficient for you.
Yep, roasted my dream experiment 😂 But let’s see if I can build the all in one life/knowledge/skill management system within Notion …. It’s been 2 years of trial and error…. Maybe I will never reach there. But I will enjoy my experiments
Try ultimate brain for notion by Thomas Frank
What does he recommend then?
I don’t study wit/ notion is just plan everything
Bro who said notion was a learning tool, its for managing your study notes lmao
Can I get the reasons? Also for me I think it depends on how you use it and...the kind of person you are.
he said it.... it's too linear. if you want to learn with science based methods, notion is not the right tool
As a student, i use notion for like calenders, to do lists and shit, i can NOT understand how people would study on that app 😭 i mean, i do use notion on tablet so idk
You didn't roast. You criticize them. You gave us no information. So you expect us to believe your opinion without giving any examples or bases for your opinion. Thank you, no.
but u didnt really explain the reasons
I’m not agree, Notion is incredible for studying in the way you can create links between different courses with relations and roll-ups for example. Moreover, you can categorize, store information in an intelligent way with databases and link with different platforms to visualize your data’s differently. It’s very intuitive and seems to work well with the human brain with the way it works.
I would say, it’s better than Word, PowerPoint or Excel.
It is designed to study , but the person designing it. What's it to be perfect or nice looking that's way it is overrated.
Ya 😅
Yes i agree notion is a bit overwhelming but if we just use it for regular usage like tracking stuffs and all this is a clesn application though (other application works to)
No Ali Abdaal was destroyed 😂😂
You got logic
actually no... Ali uses notion not for studying as his primary tool...
I use Notion for study and so far its been working. Im curious what other apps would you recommend then? Maybe there some better that I didny know yet.
I am glad Notion exists in my life.
Just started using notion. It reminded me of tumblr and web design.
I always thought of it as a project management software
This is so cool!! Ive tried making one of these ones but i stumbled upon a character limit for my workspace, would we have to export it and reset or just pay to expand the word limit?
Don't blame the tool if most people don't use it efficiently
Do people use Notion commonly in university?
What would you recommend to organise your study then?
Notion, along with most “influencer” productivity apps, is overrated. First, establish a system that works for you personally, or your team, then choose the app (emphasis on THE-don’t go down a rabbit hole using multiple apps)
I agree Notion is a great tool but I'd have to say it's best used for project management and completing task.
I feel like obsidan does a better job when it comes to note taking and studying topics.
If it does the work, i am using it
What could i use instead of Notion then please ?
bro come on i love notion. at first i did not understand how to use it but now i effortlessly make databases and other stuff. its a hobby or me atp since im an organization freak
Of course it's a calming notion
Notion for planning, structure and organisation. GoodNotes, or hand written notes, and flash cards for studying 🫡
Notion is monotonous when its comes to note taking for study.
I don't understand notion it's too complicated that's why I don't use it
its underrated for those who have adhd and overrated over others.
If its overrated, why not suggest the app that is outstanding
For study, he says you can use any infinite blank canvas app, which allows you to draw a mind map. He specifically uses Concepts.
Notion is my best friend when I comes to studying I 1000% disagree
I tried for so long to use notion but I realised I was spending more time getting the dashboard and structure perfect than actually being productive. Logseq is so much better for me.
I’m pretty sure it’s made for like writing notes and journaling
What about other suggestions? That is NOT sponsored?
Or if it is sponsored it's something you genuinely believe in