The guy left a lot of ccc Gil stuff Yeh gil is a regular servant Ccc Gil is a classless unique hack type servant But imagine if gil was a losbelt king Also if the losbelt kings were normal servant They won’t stand a chance The guy did get one thing wrong Similar to Excalibur ea has restrictions Gil can’t use it’s true power But it’s true potential is infinite or limitless depends how you read it If you think about it Gil has things in his Arsenal to take down a losbelt kings (Alcides/alcides is not stronger than gil, gil just didn’t want to pull out ea) Enkidu get buffed when fighting him
It's usually anime only's who have only seen UBW, Zero & Heaven's feel who say Gil isn't OP just because he lost to Shirou. Edit: In Fate extella link, he says his armor is too heavy to be agile. That's why he's an archer lmao
Lol, they ignore that Shirou is basically a purpose-built anti-Gilgamesh, his magic and NP are all designed for the express purpose of countering and overwhelming Archer Gilgamesh using the same high volume high power attack style that Gil himself introduced Shirou to. The willingness to instantly discard any weapon because it isn't a specific weapon that will bring victory, it's the fact that there is no end to the stream of weapons which prevents the enemy from achieving victory. Damn near guaranteeing that they cannot land a decisive blow and that they will, sooner or later, catch a stray Noble Phantasm or maybe a dozen of them in the same second.
Not really iskandar in close range combat is a beast, gilgamesh literally used more than 80 gates against him and still couldn't stop him without the chains, heck in fgo it is literally stated that he can tank clarent blood Arthur to the face with no issues, and in physical strength he can even overpower the likes of artoria and altera and even match berserkers like Darius, his reaction speed is also through the roofs, he literally dodged Excalibur at point blank range something even medusa can't do, iskandar is powerful at close range, even his younger self can fight nero in close range, his adult self would merk most servants, even gawain mentions how iskandar is in a different league than him. Gilgamesh toyed with him only because he had waver as a master and he lost his chariot previously, otherwise the battle would have ended differently, in extella nameless stated iskandar is stated to be on par with karna.
Iskander being on par with Karna sounds like a cap,but if we combine his power with the power of his soldiers in his reality marble then i guess that makes sense......not gonna lie Iskander surviving Excalibur always made me feel cringe becuase Medusa's Pegasus gives a layers of protection and it's still didn't help her.On the contrary his wheel at least as far as i know does not give his any protection from damage but he survives it from Arturia who is in a much better condition when she was in a fight against Medusa....
@@алексейпугачев-л9й Iskandar being karna tier isn't really that much of a cap especially since even gawain with no sun boost can fight him in close range when he doesn't wear his armor, and since iskandar is on par if not superior to sun boosted gawain in close range I don't see it that far fetched for him to rival karna. Including their full arsenal they should be about equal considering the statement, also both possess EX ranked noble phantasms that can't be quantified in terms of strength + crazy arsenals. Medusa is stated to be bullet speed in the fate route. In Fate zero diarmuid in his fight against artoria was stated to be far surpassing the speed of sound and nearing the speed of light, and yet iskandar was still stated to be the fastest servant in Fate zero, so him reacting to Excalibur is backed up by his statements. Also gordius wheel in it's normal charge is indeed less impressive compared to bellerophon, but when iskandar uses via expugnatio aka his strongest attack's true name release he gets waaaaay faster plus the lighting bolts that his chariot releases are stated to be each one as strong as a full power strike from artoria and diarmuid, that should generate enough power to clash with Excalibur until he gets to jump out in my opinion at least. After all it's not like his chariot survived Excalibur anyway.
@@knightofthelake8112 well i guess what you saying makes sense.......considering that one charge from Gordius Wheel nearly killed Lancelot but at the same time he was not bothered by Saber's attacks means a lot........but not gonna lie Gawain gets shit on a lot in my opinion.......he supposed to be the third strongest knight of the round table,but we never saw him performing something as atleast impressive as Mordred who is cannonicaly much weaker than him even without a sun.
@@knightofthelake8112 and think about the other aspect, the weight of each character's history and mythos. Iskandar is a truly massive historical and cultural force, so much so that like Napoleon in FGO, his lived feats are not necessarily the extent of his power. Add in the monstrous reality marble and you've got a Heroic Spirit who 100% belongs in the top tier of Servants.
The guy left a lot of ccc Gil stuff
Yeh gil is a regular servant
Ccc Gil is a classless unique hack type servant
But imagine if gil was a losbelt king
Also if the losbelt kings were normal servant
They won’t stand a chance
The guy did get one thing wrong
Similar to Excalibur ea has restrictions
Gil can’t use it’s true power
But it’s true potential is infinite or limitless depends how you read it
If you think about it
Gil has things in his Arsenal to take down a losbelt kings
(Alcides/alcides is not stronger than gil, gil just didn’t want to pull out ea)
Enkidu get buffed when fighting him
It's usually anime only's who have only seen UBW, Zero & Heaven's feel who say Gil isn't OP just because he lost to Shirou.
Edit: In Fate extella link, he says his armor is too heavy to be agile. That's why he's an archer lmao
Oh really? I haven't played extella yet I just know the story
Lol, they ignore that Shirou is basically a purpose-built anti-Gilgamesh, his magic and NP are all designed for the express purpose of countering and overwhelming Archer Gilgamesh using the same high volume high power attack style that Gil himself introduced Shirou to. The willingness to instantly discard any weapon because it isn't a specific weapon that will bring victory, it's the fact that there is no end to the stream of weapons which prevents the enemy from achieving victory. Damn near guaranteeing that they cannot land a decisive blow and that they will, sooner or later, catch a stray Noble Phantasm or maybe a dozen of them in the same second.
Not really iskandar in close range combat is a beast, gilgamesh literally used more than 80 gates against him and still couldn't stop him without the chains, heck in fgo it is literally stated that he can tank clarent blood Arthur to the face with no issues, and in physical strength he can even overpower the likes of artoria and altera and even match berserkers like Darius, his reaction speed is also through the roofs, he literally dodged Excalibur at point blank range something even medusa can't do, iskandar is powerful at close range, even his younger self can fight nero in close range, his adult self would merk most servants, even gawain mentions how iskandar is in a different league than him.
Gilgamesh toyed with him only because he had waver as a master and he lost his chariot previously, otherwise the battle would have ended differently, in extella nameless stated iskandar is stated to be on par with karna.
Iskander being on par with Karna sounds like a cap,but if we combine his power with the power of his soldiers in his reality marble then i guess that makes sense......not gonna lie Iskander surviving Excalibur always made me feel cringe becuase Medusa's Pegasus gives a layers of protection and it's still didn't help her.On the contrary his wheel at least as far as i know does not give his any protection from damage but he survives it from Arturia who is in a much better condition when she was in a fight against Medusa....
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Iskandar being karna tier isn't really that much of a cap especially since even gawain with no sun boost can fight him in close range when he doesn't wear his armor, and since iskandar is on par if not superior to sun boosted gawain in close range I don't see it that far fetched for him to rival karna.
Including their full arsenal they should be about equal considering the statement, also both possess EX ranked noble phantasms that can't be quantified in terms of strength + crazy arsenals.
Medusa is stated to be bullet speed in the fate route.
In Fate zero diarmuid in his fight against artoria was stated to be far surpassing the speed of sound and nearing the speed of light, and yet iskandar was still stated to be the fastest servant in Fate zero, so him reacting to Excalibur is backed up by his statements.
Also gordius wheel in it's normal charge is indeed less impressive compared to bellerophon, but when iskandar uses via expugnatio aka his strongest attack's true name release he gets waaaaay faster plus the lighting bolts that his chariot releases are stated to be each one as strong as a full power strike from artoria and diarmuid, that should generate enough power to clash with Excalibur until he gets to jump out in my opinion at least. After all it's not like his chariot survived Excalibur anyway.
@@knightofthelake8112 well i guess what you saying makes sense.......considering that one charge from Gordius Wheel nearly killed Lancelot but at the same time he was not bothered by Saber's attacks means a lot........but not gonna lie Gawain gets shit on a lot in my opinion.......he supposed to be the third strongest knight of the round table,but we never saw him performing something as atleast impressive as Mordred who is cannonicaly much weaker than him even without a sun.
@@knightofthelake8112 and think about the other aspect, the weight of each character's history and mythos. Iskandar is a truly massive historical and cultural force, so much so that like Napoleon in FGO, his lived feats are not necessarily the extent of his power. Add in the monstrous reality marble and you've got a Heroic Spirit who 100% belongs in the top tier of Servants.
Oh trust me, I’ve seen a lot of people downplay and disrespect Gil, and they don’t even got any facts to back their claims up