It's funny how plastic and polycaps behave differently based on the color it's made with. You occasionally get these alternative colored polycaps and their properties are just totally different, either stiffer or softer, but both worse than the standard greys they usually come in.
It all comes down to the chemical make ups of the plastic colorings. Metallic plastics, for instance, are notorious for being brittle, and tend to just outright disintegrate within 2 decades. I'll never understand the obsession with releasing clear variants of kits either. Clear plastic is prone to coloring from light exposure, AND also becomes more brittle as time passes. Small details, like Wing's chest crystal, fine, but load bearing connections and joints are destined to shatter one day.
@@secretasianman108 > Metallic plastics, for instance, are notorious for being brittle, and tend to just outright disintegrate within 2 decades This is because the old method of making metallic plastics involved trying to inject metallic shavings into the plastic molding - essentially injecting impurities (that don't properly bond with plastic) into the plastic that degrade the integrity of the part. This problem has been mostly solved in the toy industry over the last 5 years or so as companies are more frequently putting out metallic plastic toys that don't immediately shatter. > I'll never understand the obsession with releasing clear variants of kits either. It's simple: They look cool and let you show off the inner-frame of a kit without having leftover parts sitting in storage. > but load bearing connections and joints are destined to shatter one day. Nothing is intended to last forever; and it's easier to get people to buy multiple copies of the same kit if they're fragile and break often.
@@Madara8989 If anything ever breaks I just repair it by drilling little holes and putting a little wire in it and glue it back together. Sometimes I use extra thin wire for small pieces or a thicker wire like a paper clip depending on how big the pieces are. It all depends on what the situation calls for. Just be patient with your models and remember that they aren’t made of toy quality plastics and that they’re more of a pose able statue.
I just built the "Honoo" variant of this kit (and repainted it to look like Starscream in his coronation getup) and I didn't have any problems with the polycaps. The Honoo replaces some of the parts but I'm pretty sure the polycaps are the same (PC-002).
I have a regular HG Wing Zero that I got a couple years back, and it has the same issues (though the waist is maybe a little more forgiving on mine). Originally, the peg for the leg was actually a little too short, so I had to sand down the internals so it would go a little deeper. It's a shame they didn't use the opportunity to make a revive of sorts, as the TV Wing Zero doesn't have that many kits.
I've never seen the show at all. But this was my second model kit ever. Later went to my local shop and saw the original. This color scheme is much more crisp. The original version almost has too much color going on...I know it's just the generic blue red yellow white color scheme, but there's no pattern to it. The colors are just too all over the place in my opinion. You aren't alone pal 😂
@@lardman5253 yeah. It seems like the original is kind of a mash up of colors now that you mention it. It really does look random. Still a sweet Mobile Suit design though.
I have two IBO models. Currently looking at a Crimson Gouf and need another Breaker Battlogue to pair with it. Saw a local shop discounting this model and I have to say it looks great. Might go down and get this.
So I have this kit, by far one of my favorites just from the color way and the fact that I grew up watching Gundam Wing says a lot. Speaking on the build quality, I didn't any issues with the joints not holding up. Everything felt solid and snug, I'm sorry to hear your kit just didn't hold up for the joints. I fell in love with the colors on this and actually kind of prefer this over the original colors.
The torso part falling is a flaw of the original, i know this because i had the original and when i picked it up for posin the lower half fell and it broke...
The waist problem Funny enough was not with this kit, but with the Helios like for the life of me, the backpack and everything makes that thing split apart. I tried to thicken it up, but that didn’t work either.
Yeah, the waist on Helios is really bad. I ended up displaying mine with full wing spread basically lying back on the wall of my case. Any attempt to pose it on a base and it just falls in half.
So the thing I think from this kit is that if you want to change some of the colors on your original Wing zero then you can swap it out with the parts on this one. I do wonder if you use the poly caps from the original Wing zero would it stay together more? So it could be either the parts or the poly caps. Too bad that they don't create an app or a program that allows you to take the design of any Gundam model kit and experiment on what colors you could do for them. Or is there?
I’ve never seen a Wing/variant in HG that had ever looked particularly good. I also just don’t like kits that need to look totally complete with panel lining (outside of the face vents), but this seems like on that absolutely needs it.
This is honestly my first gunpla and my friend gave it to me on my birthday. I did try to build it but it wasn't the best time but I will build it later on. Also I'm glad you made a video on this.
I guess it's been a while since you watched wing but wing zero in tv as well as the No grade 1/60 wing zero model kit. the covers on the machine guns on the chest flipped inside the body and flipped the guns out. I don't expect a high grade to do that and as for the ball joint in the waist I've been having that problem with all the kits from this line for some reason but it's an easy fix so I let it slide
My P-Bandai Teiwaz shiden has a very similar issue (the Polycaps are a different color than usual as well) I theorized it was something with the color for the Polycaps
I had that problem with the Heliose. and with the arms on the astrey recolor. i think its with some of the joints they messed with for increased kit bashing within the line.
For the clavicle cannons, it's normal, as the thing does completely turn around, so no white piece above those... At least on the Wing Zero, after some time during the serie. For the Battlogue version, sadly, the video seems to have been removed
I put this kit together this summer and had the same problem with the Polycarp's not holding and the model keep falling apart. I can't even open the wings win out them popping out.
I have this kit, and don't have waist issues through. Shoulders are fine, they are just molded in a way that is hard to move the forward hinge without pulling on the ball joint. Sorry about your kit's waist though. Also the colors are so nice and pop even more when panel lined! I love Teal
To me, almost all the kits with this line we're bangers. Kind of felt like it went downhill with Gouf Crimson and Urban Ground Type being just a do-overs of Gouf and Ground Type respectively. Astray Red Frame Inversion and Sky Zero felt like actually genuine new because they try to change at least something whether it was molding, color or even accessories to make it different in it's own way
I'm confused by your statement. I havnt done the Crimson Gouf, but how is it being just a palate swap, different from the Sky Zero, which is literally a pallete swap?
i actually liked the Urban type and Gouf Crimson the most out of the 4 (?) we got. you could make a sick dark Ground Gundam with the joints from the OG one (and a white-tan one too lol), as for the Gouf Crimson, i like the red oni - blue oni dynamic it could give with the original Gouf Custom.
I had none of those issues with the regular or the recolor my son plays with them all the time and they are still rock solid and no I didn’t tighten them up at all
Interesting review of this model kit from "Gundam Breaker Battlogue" because I have Blazing Gundam and I want to find another from the collection like this Wing Gundam Sky or Gouf Custom (my favorite to find) to experience the part of mix units' parts to make an unique Gundam, the special feature of this collection. But watching this looks like Wing Gundam Sky is cool and the original colors compared with the original Gundam Wing but the body-waist union is a bit fragile even on Bird Mode.
speaking of the loose poly-caps due to its color I have a HGCC Turn A who's poly-caps are white and the damn thing is loose fresh out of box that I replaced all the white poly-caps with my spare grey ones, it must have something to do with the formula for the color chosen that affects the plastic.
the issues you are having, I also had with the gundam Helios. Interestingly I haven't had this issue with the other breaker kits such as the livelance heaven, and the Qan[T] commando.
I would like to just say that i have the same one but, mine is rock solid. I dropped it and it stood still in the same pose. Not in a bad way but it is still very posable.
Plastics should washed off first because it was slightly non-sticky/oily from manufacturing. That's why waist polycaps on slippery plastic doesn't grip.
Mecha, you do enough of these reviews that you must have piles of extra polycap runners kicking around at this point. If you run into polycap problems like this again, could you try swapping out the polycaps with spares if just to confirm you received faulty polycaps? I feel like some HGs in your reviews get dinged points for something that could just be defective.
I would argue that he's reviewing the kit as it comes in the box. If you get faulty parts then that's poor QC and it affects the opinion of the kit itself. I totally get your point though!
After hg deatschyte, hg shen lon and heavy arms, I think bandai need to make hg wing and wing zero 2.0 or revive version with current engineering. I mean it's ridiculous that the main leader gundam of the wing series has an old engineering, while others got latest engineering. I feel that the gap between Hg wing and zero and others are too wide. Yes, wing and zero have RG Version, but it's not equal ( price and difficulty) for me HG is all rounder use, both for toys and model kits. It's cheaper, easy to modify and have great compatibility. RG more like a figures: make it, and left as it is.
I like the design and accessories but I just can't deal with how aggravating the arm gets if you try and move it. Super frustrating and made posing such a pain. Deeply disappointing
I prefer this color over the original one also the luminescent gem and beam + the the extra part reminds me of first original (dark)green ranger and not that spin off ninja storm green ranger.
Out the few battlogue MK i own its is my least favorite I don’t hate mine tends to turtle shell fall on how heavy the wing jetpack is i did how ever took the cool black sideskirt for another kit i love for it customization barbataurus
Have you tried or heard of using clear nail polish or even super glue on the ball joints? They help to tighten up the joint. Nail polish tends to rub off after a while of course but it still works.
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It's funny how plastic and polycaps behave differently based on the color it's made with. You occasionally get these alternative colored polycaps and their properties are just totally different, either stiffer or softer, but both worse than the standard greys they usually come in.
Its all about the chemistry, I guess.
It all comes down to the chemical make ups of the plastic colorings. Metallic plastics, for instance, are notorious for being brittle, and tend to just outright disintegrate within 2 decades.
I'll never understand the obsession with releasing clear variants of kits either. Clear plastic is prone to coloring from light exposure, AND also becomes more brittle as time passes. Small details, like Wing's chest crystal, fine, but load bearing connections and joints are destined to shatter one day.
@@secretasianman108 > Metallic plastics, for instance, are notorious for being brittle, and tend to just outright disintegrate within 2 decades
This is because the old method of making metallic plastics involved trying to inject metallic shavings into the plastic molding - essentially injecting impurities (that don't properly bond with plastic) into the plastic that degrade the integrity of the part. This problem has been mostly solved in the toy industry over the last 5 years or so as companies are more frequently putting out metallic plastic toys that don't immediately shatter.
> I'll never understand the obsession with releasing clear variants of kits either.
It's simple: They look cool and let you show off the inner-frame of a kit without having leftover parts sitting in storage.
> but load bearing connections and joints are destined to shatter one day.
Nothing is intended to last forever; and it's easier to get people to buy multiple copies of the same kit if they're fragile and break often.
@@Madara8989 If anything ever breaks I just repair it by drilling little holes and putting a little wire in it and glue it back together. Sometimes I use extra thin wire for small pieces or a thicker wire like a paper clip depending on how big the pieces are. It all depends on what the situation calls for. Just be patient with your models and remember that they aren’t made of toy quality plastics and that they’re more of a pose able statue.
@@secretasianman108 wait I thought that Bandai just painted the plastic clear on their clear model kit releases.
I just built the "Honoo" variant of this kit (and repainted it to look like Starscream in his coronation getup) and I didn't have any problems with the polycaps. The Honoo replaces some of the parts but I'm pretty sure the polycaps are the same (PC-002).
I have a regular HG Wing Zero that I got a couple years back, and it has the same issues (though the waist is maybe a little more forgiving on mine). Originally, the peg for the leg was actually a little too short, so I had to sand down the internals so it would go a little deeper. It's a shame they didn't use the opportunity to make a revive of sorts, as the TV Wing Zero doesn't have that many kits.
A custom build of this with a black cherry red could be pretty sweet.
The black highlights with the super green azure blue main body, is undeniably pretty
I feel like I’m in the minority when I say that I actually prefer these colors to the original
Count me in that minority
I've never seen the show at all. But this was my second model kit ever. Later went to my local shop and saw the original. This color scheme is much more crisp. The original version almost has too much color going on...I know it's just the generic blue red yellow white color scheme, but there's no pattern to it. The colors are just too all over the place in my opinion. You aren't alone pal 😂
@@lardman5253 yeah. It seems like the original is kind of a mash up of colors now that you mention it. It really does look random. Still a sweet Mobile Suit design though.
Count me in that too!!!
Brother your not alone....😆
I have two IBO models. Currently looking at a Crimson Gouf and need another Breaker Battlogue to pair with it. Saw a local shop discounting this model and I have to say it looks great. Might go down and get this.
So I have this kit, by far one of my favorites just from the color way and the fact that I grew up watching Gundam Wing says a lot. Speaking on the build quality, I didn't any issues with the joints not holding up. Everything felt solid and snug, I'm sorry to hear your kit just didn't hold up for the joints. I fell in love with the colors on this and actually kind of prefer this over the original colors.
The torso part falling is a flaw of the original, i know this because i had the original and when i picked it up for posin the lower half fell and it broke...
I would like a MG Proto Zero 2.0 and an RG version as well.
Probably cause of polycap, mine was not that bad, and after a topcoat process they went more better and solid 👀
The waist problem Funny enough was not with this kit, but with the Helios like for the life of me, the backpack and everything makes that thing split apart. I tried to thicken it up, but that didn’t work either.
Helios is such a shame. Such a gorgeous kit with a dumb but super fundamental problem. Not that it’s a very tough fix but you get me
Yeah, the waist on Helios is really bad. I ended up displaying mine with full wing spread basically lying back on the wall of my case. Any attempt to pose it on a base and it just falls in half.
So the thing I think from this kit is that if you want to change some of the colors on your original Wing zero then you can swap it out with the parts on this one.
I do wonder if you use the poly caps from the original Wing zero would it stay together more? So it could be either the parts or the poly caps.
Too bad that they don't create an app or a program that allows you to take the design of any Gundam model kit and experiment on what colors you could do for them. Or is there?
i think the video games let you do that
This was my very first Gundam kit!
I’ve never seen a Wing/variant in HG that had ever looked particularly good. I also just don’t like kits that need to look totally complete with panel lining (outside of the face vents), but this seems like on that absolutely needs it.
This is honestly my first gunpla and my friend gave it to me on my birthday. I did try to build it but it wasn't the best time but I will build it later on. Also I'm glad you made a video on this.
I guess it's been a while since you watched wing but wing zero in tv as well as the No grade 1/60 wing zero model kit. the covers on the machine guns on the chest flipped inside the body and flipped the guns out. I don't expect a high grade to do that and as for the ball joint in the waist I've been having that problem with all the kits from this line for some reason but it's an easy fix so I let it slide
Fun fact: a Kinokuniya in my state is selling all these Battlogue kits at 2 for 1 for $13 cause nobody wants them and they have a stockpile of them
Oh dang what state is that? I'll come take some off their hands 😂
@@PlayMadness its in Austin Texas
Maybe this show is super mid but its kit is so good!
This is the Wing Zero of all time
Yes
That waist falling apart on you is crazy. That never happened on my Sky Zero :O
My P-Bandai Teiwaz shiden has a very similar issue (the Polycaps are a different color than usual as well)
I theorized it was something with the color for the Polycaps
Mecha, I have this kit and I can confirm that the falling in half thing is universal. Mine does the same.
I had that problem with the Heliose. and with the arms on the astrey recolor. i think its with some of the joints they messed with for increased kit bashing within the line.
I painted the knees on mine gold on the larger section and glossy green on the top, smaller section just to give the bottom half a bit more pop.
For the clavicle cannons, it's normal, as the thing does completely turn around, so no white piece above those... At least on the Wing Zero, after some time during the serie. For the Battlogue version, sadly, the video seems to have been removed
I got this one last Christmas. Unfortunately the connection peg for the right leg broke and I haven't been able to figure how to fix it
super glue or the good ol pin method should suffice
I put this kit together this summer and had the same problem with the Polycarp's not holding and the model keep falling apart. I can't even open the wings win out them popping out.
I have this kit, and don't have waist issues through. Shoulders are fine, they are just molded in a way that is hard to move the forward hinge without pulling on the ball joint. Sorry about your kit's waist though. Also the colors are so nice and pop even more when panel lined! I love Teal
Dude I could watch you talk about postage stamps...love ur work!
I had just built this a few months ago and actually had no issues with any joints😐
Just started building this one and my big problem is the upper arm joint, one move and plop, arm is off.
I think you have to change the polycaps with some extra regular gray pc parts.
Love the blues on it!
To me, almost all the kits with this line we're bangers. Kind of felt like it went downhill with Gouf Crimson and Urban Ground Type being just a do-overs of Gouf and Ground Type respectively.
Astray Red Frame Inversion and Sky Zero felt like actually genuine new because they try to change at least something whether it was molding, color or even accessories to make it different in it's own way
I'm confused by your statement. I havnt done the Crimson Gouf, but how is it being just a palate swap, different from the Sky Zero, which is literally a pallete swap?
@chilly_alchemist. Your comment is a bit weird.
Sky zero is literally the same kit, just like how gouf crimson is the same kit lol
i actually liked the Urban type and Gouf Crimson the most out of the 4 (?) we got. you could make a sick dark Ground Gundam with the joints from the OG one (and a white-tan one too lol), as for the Gouf Crimson, i like the red oni - blue oni dynamic it could give with the original Gouf Custom.
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I don't think mine came with that backpack adapter.
I had none of those issues with the regular or the recolor my son plays with them all the time and they are still rock solid and no I didn’t tighten them up at all
Interesting review of this model kit from "Gundam Breaker Battlogue" because I have Blazing Gundam and I want to find another from the collection like this Wing Gundam Sky or Gouf Custom (my favorite to find) to experience the part of mix units' parts to make an unique Gundam, the special feature of this collection.
But watching this looks like Wing Gundam Sky is cool and the original colors compared with the original Gundam Wing but the body-waist union is a bit fragile even on Bird Mode.
I’ve had this issue with the exia with the waist part, I think it just needs some extra grip maybe a powder haha
speaking of the loose poly-caps due to its color I have a HGCC Turn A who's poly-caps are white and the damn thing is loose fresh out of box that I replaced all the white poly-caps with my spare grey ones, it must have something to do with the formula for the color chosen that affects the plastic.
Can you try the loose joint with the black poly caps? Especially the ones on gundam vidar, because those ones are very tight!
the issues you are having, I also had with the gundam Helios. Interestingly I haven't had this issue with the other breaker kits such as the livelance heaven, and the Qan[T] commando.
I painted the orange parts pink for my sister she loved it
I also have the standard variant, i had to glue it in a lots of area, this thing is a fragmentation grenade
i wonder if you will make a video where you kitbash itwith the other battlouge kits
The UV reactivity on this kit is amazing
I like this gundam because it was my first gundam I ever got and I now own over 15 gunpla.
They switched the polly caps back to grey on my version of this kit and the waist and left arm still fall off
I have the regular version luckily I extra policaps from Blast Impulse I use these to replace them along with some other spare I have😂
plumbers tape lol does wonders for Barbatos too.
Mg eclipse raijin review please ive been looking for that p bandai kit but no avail
im aghast by the lack of the classic wing music in the background. You know what I'm talking about, you can hear it in your heads right now
My Helious Gundam also falls in half easily. it feels like the socket is not deep enough for the joint.
I have the same joint problem with the Leo units
I actually didn't have any problem with the arm and waist joints. Mine stays on pretty well. So I don't know why. Maybe it's just some kits.
What's the brand of the stand you are using?
Look like thats a problem in that line of kits i changed the one in my Helios and the urban ground gundam
I think its the plastic on the kit cause i know mine falls apart the exact same way and i've heard other people have the exact same issue
I have the same problem with the Gundam ground type's torso, the original and the battlelouge
how much is shipping from buyee?
I would like to just say that i have the same one but, mine is rock solid. I dropped it and it stood still in the same pose. Not in a bad way but it is still very posable.
To be honest I got this kit like a month ago that it has too much problems really don’t recommend there isn’t much things that would attract you
I never had any problems with the poly caps on my kit
Plastics should washed off first because it was slightly non-sticky/oily from manufacturing. That's why waist polycaps on slippery plastic doesn't grip.
Just got this bad boy today!
Hip ball joint on my Sky is sturdy. ☺️
Yo the back order is crazy. Lol
Just the fact it's a Wing Zero piloted by Four Murasame.. well, pretty sure Heero would have a run for his money.
i never had weist problems with my hg gundam wing proto zero to this date
Mine also likes to fall off the poly cap.
Maybe you can a little bit super glue
Mine seems to hold up fine, though I haven't touched it in a hot minute.
Even in the hg wing zero honoo the arms and waist pops out for me
The same thing happens to my kit too with the poly caps
I have to ask ? Can you send me all the places you get your model Kits from cause they are amazing bro
This was my first gunpla
Now buy a flame element "Wing Gundam Zero Honoo"
Can confirm that the polycap in the torso is trash, i have the wing zero honoo from gundam try with the exact same problem
Mecha, you do enough of these reviews that you must have piles of extra polycap runners kicking around at this point. If you run into polycap problems like this again, could you try swapping out the polycaps with spares if just to confirm you received faulty polycaps? I feel like some HGs in your reviews get dinged points for something that could just be defective.
I have this kit, the polycaps you get are just not the best
Nah, I have this kit as well and it falls apart just as easily as his
I would argue that he's reviewing the kit as it comes in the box. If you get faulty parts then that's poor QC and it affects the opinion of the kit itself. I totally get your point though!
Mine didn't fall apart like his but I had the same waist issue with Helios. Swapped in a spare polycap from Earthree/Core Gundam and it worked fine.
Must be the one in a million chance with the kit, mines holding together without having to tighten the joints.
RG Wing Zero TV version when?
It's so strange to me that this kit requires partformation while my non-grade 1/144 had a mechanism to reverse the feet into fly mode.
Wow, very nice video
Straight to the point😅😅😊
After hg deatschyte, hg shen lon and heavy arms, I think bandai need to make hg wing and wing zero 2.0 or revive version with current engineering.
I mean it's ridiculous that the main leader gundam of the wing series has an old engineering, while others got latest engineering. I feel that the gap between Hg wing and zero and others are too wide.
Yes, wing and zero have RG Version, but it's not equal ( price and difficulty) for me HG is all rounder use, both for toys and model kits. It's cheaper, easy to modify and have great compatibility.
RG more like a figures: make it, and left as it is.
I like the design and accessories but I just can't deal with how aggravating the arm gets if you try and move it. Super frustrating and made posing such a pain. Deeply disappointing
I prefer this color over the original one also the luminescent gem and beam + the the extra part reminds me of first original (dark)green ranger and not that spin off ninja storm green ranger.
Literally just bought this kit, just so I have something to build lol
I like plain mobile suits. Plenty of room to practice adding detail.
in First Time P-Bandai Exclusive Model Kit HG GBB 1/144 Only 4 Kits
I just hope they bring back the 5 endless waltz series Gundam
Just a recolor?
Out the few battlogue MK i own its is my least favorite I don’t hate mine tends to turtle shell fall on how heavy the wing jetpack is i did how ever took the cool black sideskirt for another kit i love for it customization barbataurus
Have you tried or heard of using clear nail polish or even super glue on the ball joints? They help to tighten up the joint. Nail polish tends to rub off after a while of course but it still works.
My local Hobby Lobby have some of these kits
I still aint got the fullset on the mobile game
I thought the self destruct is the led version. then I realize that the kit it self falls apart😆
On the next review can you do the Gundam wing zero Hoho
if it were the hono in these colours it would have been cooler
Gundam wing zero creativity
Buy the regular color Zero Wing Gundam, buy this kit, mix and match parts so you get a unique color scheme!