What Happened to Defense in the NBA??
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Discussing the recent rise in offense in the NBA and what it means for the league moving forward.
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“And while we all can’t get enough of it…”
Speak for yourself. I’ve seen more than enough. Game needs to be rebalanced.
Yeah he was bugging on that fam. Smh
Yeah I can’t watch the NBA any more. Everything is just about numbers and the actual quality of the game and how it is called is much worse.
Exactly. Too much offense is boring. Offense is exciting because it takes skill and is more difficult than defense. If offense is easier to play than defense than your sport is flawed.
Exactly 💯
2:03 Booker travels in the clip.
Uncalled traveling, carrying, and moving screens probably explain a lot!
Actually 1:57
No lie, love Devin Booker but traveling is traveling, although I recall Steph saying "there is no traveling in the NBA" as a kind of wink and nod. @@kylec2761
NBA slowly transitioning to streetball lol
@@bigbangbasketball rapidly
@bigbangbasketball bad streetball
I remember in the 2000s and early 2010s a 40 point game was amazing. 😂
-- this high scoring bothers me. They got rid of hand checking, sure. I'd be more interested in getting rid of flopping/foul baiting.
For instance, MJ and Bird tried to still score despite the foul. MVP Embiid and prime Harden? They are looking for the foul first. It's CRAZY when defenders put their hands BEHIND their back way too often. Who does that? Modern day defenders.
That's as if the attacker is storming the castle and the defenders on the wall are like, "Nope. Lower the shields and raise the gate. Let 'em in."
So when David Robinson went for 71? How about Bernard King's 60? MJ's 63 against the best defense in the league.....in a playoff game? David Thompson's 73? Granted you didn't see 4 of those types of games in a week, but it's not like 40 points was actually amazing. Jordan averaged 37.1 a game one year. Harden put up 36.1. Wilt averaged 50 & 24 rebounds.
It's happened in every era of the game. Sometimes the offense is just better than the defense.....at least for a few select players.
It wasn’t. Mj was averaging near 40.
@@delacroixii mj wasnt averaging 40 in the early 2000s
😂😂 now it’s the norm
No Hand checking, 3 point shooting over post or mid range plays r contributing factors. You have to keep things in perspective, to adjust for today’s rules to compare past eras scores. Can you imagine MJ without hand checking?
He would also be allowed to travel and carry every time he got the ball as well. Also, the lane would be wide open because defenders literally get out of the way now as opposed to actually playing defense
@@johndodo2062 They have to do that in order to protect the 3 point line, dummy
MJ would have been a 40ppg scorer with no hand-checking
@@johndodo2062 Yeah, the traveling blank check is the most bizarre of all of this. Calling offensive fouls, especially charges should be 2nd on this list.
Or if he had been coached since high school by pros to have perfect form for long-distance shots? He wouldn't have to be Curry......if he could have shot 40% from 3 instead of sub 33% he would have averaged 40 EASY.
David Robinson's 71 points was quite impressive as it was during the physical handcheck era and he didn't shoot 3s.
It was known as a joke at the time; Robinson scored that 71 against a Clippers squad that wasn't in playoff contention and didn't try at all defensively. It was also at the very end of the season, and Robinson stayed on the floor for the scoring title...which he took at the last second from Shaq through the 71-point night.
Robinson proceeded to the playoff matchup against Karl Malone and Utah. With Malone defending him, Robinson's scoring average went from 29.8 in the regular season to a flat 20 in the playoffs, a catastrophic scoring decline, while Malone averaged nearly 30 a game against a Frontline of Robinson and Rodman.
This, along with Robinson's performance against Hakeem in the 1995 playoffs, gave Robinson a very bad reputation: he'd throw up beautiful scoring stats in the regular season, but in his three best seasons (1994. 1995, 1996) was dominated by either Malone or Olajuwon in the playoffs. Olajuwon did it once to Robinson, Malone did it twice (1994, 1996).
Anyway, Robinson's 1994 performance was another example of a statline that was juiced. Not everything about the past should be romanticized.
Stat padding vs a bad team in the last game of the season.
Basically Kobe vs Utah.
@@mortenpotzdidler2790And I say this as a Spurs can!!
I've NEVER ONCE bragged on this game, or photoshopped The Admiral holding paper with "71" on it or sought out highlights of it.
Because it's one of his LEAST notable accomplishments.
Think "AD setting the All Star Game scoring record"...
@@mortenpotzdidler2790really, just like Embiid, Mitchell and other present Player
Hahah you got busted trying to push a bs agenda. 😆
Simple. Lack of ball pressure in defending on the ball, hands on their side, backpedaling and reacting to the offense instead of defenders being the agressors and teams in the regular season run the same defensive scheme in the regular season and don’t adapt their coverages to
It's hard to be aggressive when fouls get called so much
The lack of Defense is not actually the "problem". It's that ever since GSWs reign, teams have been copying that brand to the point that no team has identities anymore. There's no Grit and Grind Memphis or Lob City Clippers anymore. Every team is a watered down version of Golden state
Defense isn't the only factor but I'd say it's one of the two largest contributing factors. The other being 3pt shooting/spacing
Defense is absolutely the biggest factor. Watch these games and count how many of the shots are essentially uncontested. When guys are already at 50 pts and the defense is still just letting them take open shots or walk to the rim for a free layup thats a defense problem.
It's defense and rules being broken. Than other stuff like what you said
It's so obvious why the rules were changed and that is the problem. LeBron throws an elbow in the lane while carrying and traveling and they call a foul on the defense. They've been doing that shit for him for over a decade. All they did was apply that same level of stupidity to the rest of the league, and now here we are. Golden state has nothing to do with this
Lack of defense and rules being unfavorable for defenders is absolutely the reason what you talking about
Rules changes that only favor the offense is what changed
The n b a Knows that Offense is what Puts the fans in the seats... And that's why they relax the rules on defense.
@@dontbeasucka.61 then why was the 90's the most popular for the NBA and the last 10 years the NBA has been declining i mean did u even see the all-star game this year? i didn't watch it cause last year was just as bad and i knew it was going to he nothing but a circle jerk i can go to the wreck center and watch that bullsht
Unless something changes, we will see someone break 100 points, and a team surpass 200 points in a single game within the next 3 years.
Nope, this should not happen any time soon. There is a Maximum level for Pace and Efficiency - the NBA is almost there. At the 100 shots per team each game is the Maximum given the 48 minutes mark. Yes, both teams can push the ball to increase Pace and use the 7 Seconds or less to get more shots up…but, even if both teams are willing to use all 15 Players to maintain this crazy Pace it could not be done for 82 Games. The NBA is what it is today because it is run by the Quantitative departments to increase Pace and Efficiency to achieve higher scoring to make the Game more exciting. Players like Victor Wembanyama might one day break Wilt Chamberlain’s 100 Points in a Game with 3-Pts shooting, Scoring in the Paint and lots of Free Throws when the clock isn’t moving. 100 Points in a Game is exhausting…the athleticism takes a special Player to have an incredible game where the other team has to be close to justify the usage. 🤓🏀
I started watching nba games again after a long break a few weeks ago. The lack of defense really stands out. Watching ncaa games it makes it really noticeable,they are so much better.
Stupid take. Frank kaminsky would score 100 against NCAA players
@@dumbassdude8372a stupid take on first take.
Relative talent played by relative players on the same game which is basketball.
An idiot calling out a sane logic is very amusing..😂😂
@@dumbassdude8372 Wow an NBA player would do well against NCAA players? Who would've thought?
What about Jokic, Giannis, Luka etc all said that NBA rules are easier to score in than international rules? It's a fact that it's easier to score in the NBA, and every single offense metrics show that.
@dumbassdude8372 Yeah, I guess Steve Kerr doesn't know what he's talking about, either. Kerr told a reporter for the mercury news that the nba needs to change defensive positioning rules that favor the offense, limiting how defense is played now. To my point earlier, yes ncaa players do a better job playing defense and for someone like myself that enjoys the technical side of basketball, the fundamentals, ncaa basketball is my favorite.
@@randywright7627. NCAA is not enjoyable to watch. Teams struggling just to get to 50 Points🤢🤢🤢🤢
It was outlawed when the realized lebron would likely average 14 points without the help. He gets away with so much shit it's crazy. He should be getting at least 3 technical could ever game the way he acts
Ahhhhhh, someone who truly understands why the NBA is total garbage now. Those rule changes on his watch benefit HIM!
Seems like it's still not enough as he needs help every year. Maybe his fans should start getting into the draft and start helping him actively on the court.
Push offs with his off arm, travels, carries, doesn’t play defense, cherry picking offense, and the way the lane clear for any player who goes up for a layup now.
Yup. But his fans just recite numbers.
Lmao. When did y’all start watching basketball? LeBron was averaging 25 ppg back when defense in the league was much tougher and had no help in Cleveland! 😂😂😂
@@dereed5222 Because he was given the green light to score whenever he wanted to. So much so that the star players beside him were complaining about it. Yes, I was there for all of it because one of them came from my Washington Wizards squad, Larry Hughes.
I think it comes down to 3 things…
1. Offensive schemes and player development has changed… everyone is shooting 3s as opposed to mid range plus there’s less post ups and more uncontested layups
2. The league favors offense far too much with its rules… you can’t even contest a jump shot anymore without an offensive player kicking their legs out or falling down and getting 3 Fts… plus they let guys like Harden or Trae Young travel, carry and then bail them out with ticky tack foul calls
3. The evaluation of players has evolved and the league values scoring more than defense. Think of the lineups that were played in the 2000s… you played 2 7 footers that rarely could shoot past mid range. You had freak athletes on the wing who rarely were shooters or the exact opposite. Now everyone has to shoot… everyone has to be able to score or they are not considered valuable… this inherent shift along with the rules changes and evolution of offensive schemes have made it nearly impossible to play defense I also feel if I had a 4th bullet it would be that a lot of players don’t put in the effort in defense anymore… they’re in it for the long haul and aren’t selling out night to night
there's effort on defense. But back then defense was much easier to play, now it's the other way around
todays NBA is soft, unwatchable & at its lowest rating bcoz of LeFraud James & his gf Adam Silver.. flopping, whining, no defense, load managing, the refs, the rules, player self entitled, super teams..etc..
miss the 80s 90s & early 2000 eras
Perhaps more defense highlights from ESPN etc. Scoring is cool, but fans can appreciate good D. One of my favorite moments in a close game is when there’s seconds on the clock and all defenders are locking up.
I would like to know the playoff stats vs the season stats, most of these players dont play hard and risk injury on the defensive side because the season doesnt mean anything. But in the playoffs you see a completely different game of basketball.
I can't help wondering if this is a result of players sort of mentally checking out or simply pacing themselves out in the regular season and then tightening up for the playoffs (ex. Nugget's Defense went from meh' to pretty good in the last years post season). Either way, seeing a team like the Pacers (not that I think they're bad) score 140 or more points routinely enough for me to notice is kind of messed up for a kid that grew up in the 90's.
It’s also telling how on the other side of the coin where even if your defense is exceptional, if you can’t shoot, you won’t see the floor. You will be subbed out. A lot was made about Jarred Vanderbilt being a sort of modern Rodman. His role has varied and while you can blame Darvin Ham for that his value on defense doesn’t supersede his lack of shooting, kind of crazy.
They're scoring more in many of the games this year (in regulation!) than a lot of the All Star games over the past 20 years. I was telling someone that some of the games seem like exhibition games. I don't think the Globetrotters even scored as much. Once the playoffs begin, games will back to the old "normal" probably?
NOT EVEN "exhibition" games!!
It's PRACTICE, while keeping score.
Lol. So right.@@darrengordon-hill
Defense Strength Rankings since the 90s : 1 > 2 ≥ 3 > 4 >>> 5
1. early 00s : Zone defense + defensive 3 seconds + still 90s hand-checking rules + no gather step
2. 90s : illegal defense + no defensive 3seconds + 90s hand-checking rules + no gather step
3. Mid-00s : Zone Defense + Defensive 3 Seconds + Enforced hand-checking rules + no gather step
4. Late 00s to mid 10s : Zone Defense + Defensive 3 Seconds + enforced hand-checking rules + Gather step implemented
5. Late 10s ~ : Zone Defense + Defensive 3 Seconds + enforced hand-checking rules + Gather step + 3-point shooting era + no Traveling + no Carrying + no offensive fouls
yeah, the focus on offense has deterred teams away from defense. also, everyone has the green light to shoot where back then, you chuck up a contested 3 early in the shotclock, you’re getting benched. Also didnt matter back then if you were a good shooter, if you also couldnt play defense. but nowadays theres a lot of teams choosing the guy who can shoot over someone who is better defensively or balanced overall.
also during the regular season, there is almost no defensive gameplan anymore. its just “lets run the floor and try to score more points than them in 48 minutes”
The NBA has seen a surge in talent while also a surge in watering down the quality of the game.
It used to be special and rare when players would get a triple double. Now it’s just expected
Personally i think it's just current officiating. Really lame from a competitive perspective, but also i feel like refs are doing some tomfoolery in the regular season games, which is allowing some of the super talented stars to pull of these numbers against some of the lower rated teams.
I think we have to also factor in the fact that the best players on these teams are the people running up the court with the ball. It used to be the point guard trying to facilitate to do whatever, but now it’s Giannis, or just whoever is the best player getting the ball.
And I mean, why can’t these guys get 70? Teams get to 120. If Luka just gets the ball all the time and isn’t missing, then he’s gonna get 70.
The stars nowadays are basically like Kobe and will just score and probably ask their teammates to get the ball. So what’s the difference from 2 years ago when a player got 50 points, and another got 20? Well the 50 point player got all the shots the 20 point player has now.
Team might as well be 2014-2018 Argentina, since all they do is pass the ball to Messi (Luka, Embiid, Devin Booker) and they basically just hope they can create something out of it. Which obviously Messi can, these guys can. But in the play offs, they’ll have a bad game or two, and they’ll lose. This is a one time thing. These guys barely get more points than their average in the playoffs.
So yeah, Messi can score 5 goals back in the day, but Argentina only actually got good, when they didn’t solely play through him.
So why do we even care? The teams they are scoring these massive numbers against are really bad teams. They probably are never getting close to 70 in the playoffs because it’s better teams that are trying harder.
I don't think defense is completely dead, once the playoffs come around then that level of effort comes back.
But I do think the league defense is trending in the wrong direction, especially in the regular season. I really don't want to watch games consistently end 140-138. That's a little ridiculous.
With that said, I'm not sure what can be done, because I also dont want a return to early 00s basketball where games frequently ended with scores under 80.
The league is different from back then I doubt we'll ever go back to seeing those types of scores regularly again without drastic changes to the game
@@taetrrtot6205 yeah we don't need to being seeing game 7 of the 2006 ECF Pistons vs Cavs where the final score was 79-61. We also don't need the 1998 finals game 3 where the Jazz scored 54 points. But we also don't need super high scoring. Today's NBA is nowhere near as bad as some people make it sound. Just call travels, moving screens, and carries consistently, and change 3 seconds to 6 or 7
@@legendarywiimaster I think there can be a healthy balance between offense and defense and that's what I personally want the league to aim for
@@taetrrtot6205 well what Dumars said about "looking into it" might be the start of the rebalance. As a modern NBA fan, teams averaging between 100-103 points seems like a sweet spot
@@legendarywiimaster yeah that sounds about perfect
I think the ability of everyone from 1-5 position that can shoot makes it hard to play defense.
There is so much positionless basketball like Pacers for Instance doesn't even have true Center. Myles is more of Power Forward than a center same with Segun.
There are so many players that don't play their position oldschool way now that makes it hard defend. Especially players that can shoot the ball beyond 27ft away from basket and hit those shots with ease
Rigged and magnet balls, simple as that
Tinfoil
True. David Blain told us....
Seems like everyone’s default response is “there’s no defense anymore”. We’re just in a phase, and the game will evolve. Someone or someones will figure out a new way to exploit the weaknesses of the game in its current state, and the evolution will continue.
Men’s College Basketball is objectively a better product nowadays. Variety of team strategy, a good mix of offense and defense, parity across the board. Even then, college basketball had a major issue with the three point shot a few years ago. They changed the distance on the shot and the games been much better since.
And mens college basketball is horrible. Horrible! I watch ncaa tournament games from 1987-1997 over and over again. It felt like life or death at those games. Womens college basketball is pretty good, but the title race will be between 5-6 teams. No drama until the end. The nba playoffs are decent, but the regular season is bad. * went to a pelicans game the other night and the lack of effort besides anyone but Jose Alvarado was troubling. I’m not going back
@@Mystic_Mary Mens college basketball is great right now, what are you talking about?
@@g.williams2047 beauty is in the eye of the beholder
What defense?..when the worst team in the NBA is scoring 110pts per game, it's basically 2k on easy mode..
People have to stop lumping in Luka's game with Towns and Embiid. Both of them played in a game where nobody on the other team was playing defense (except in the 4th quarter with Towns......which stopped him cold). Luka was just hitting RIDICULOUS shots under heavy pressure. He was beating double-teams and every individual defender they could throw at him. The man shot 75% from the field. If he was standing alone out there that would be impressive. The layups he did get were under heavy pressure. That was a legit all-time great game.
No charges, travels, and carries explains a lot, and is very understated. Even if you're hand-checked, an extra step would negate that advantage anyway.
I guess we could see the results of this trend on FIBA World Cup, where USA gave too many Offensive Rebounds and show some lack of defensive teamwork... maybe having some FIBA rules might reverse this trend.
You lost me on this channel soon as you said todays defense is exceptionally better than 60s and 70s 😂😂😂
You think the defensive talent of a bunch of 5-9 white guys with 9-5 jobs was better defense ?
That's been debunked many times already.
@@And.One.Hoops1bruh it was much more than 9-5 white guys in the NBA during 60s -70s do your research gang
When people say todays players don’t play defense i just think about these players
Rudy
Wemby
Ad
Jackson jr
Brook
Giannis
Kawhi
PG
Jrue Holiday
Mikal Bridges
Pat bev
Draymond
Jarrett Allen
Vando
Chet
Bam
Antman
SGA
Derrick white
Embiid
Smart
Fox
Evan Mobley
Myles turner
Jimmy
Tatum
J brown
Nic CLAXTON
I can name more
Personally, I think it's only a matter of time until someone beats Kobe's career high of 81. It's crazy to think that we have had four 70+ point scorers over just the past two seasons.
Doubt it. You really would have to go off
i think a lot of it is the younger teams ability to run the court, especially a team like the Pacers, who are loaded with players. They are young, can run and gun, with zero effort on getting back or being physical on defense.
but the two of the youngest teams in the nba the magic and okc are good defensively
i already find the lack of defense.. or to be more clear.. how much defense is being hampered by rules
it makes the nba boring
It’s completely out of control it won’t be long before we scores in the 200s
I’d like to see the 3 second defense rule go to 10 seconds. Let big guys just hang around the rim and block shots and mug dunkers. Foul baiting sucks. should penalize offensive flop heads like Harden and LeBron by letting the other team shoot 3 FTs. Eliminate 3 pointers on the sides, 26 feet at all angels.
LeBron doesn't even shoot that many freethrows
Defense does not sell jerseys, arena tickets or network contracts. It's purely a business decision orchestrated by the ownership group of the association. The legitimate competition aspect of the NBA has been dead for quite some time now.
The NBA should start by calling the obvious travels, carries, moving sceens, and stop favouring the offensive end more often than not. It has quite frankly gotten boring watching some of these in-season all star games where teams just go up and down, trading baskets with little resistance. 40 point quarters are not even worth mentioning anymore. NBA players are already shooting better and scoring more easily than ever, we don't need the refs and league as a whole to further put fuel into this dumpsterfire. Teams used to have different styles and identities, now it's a giant melting pot of "who can score even more". The Knicks and Wolves might be the only teams with a true defense-first approach.
While lack of defense is a thing, the offensive schemes of today are incredible. When the 2nd guy off the bench can still hit 3s at 40%, a lot of games is simply P&R to kickout. Swing a few times to the open man while the broadcasters and fans complain about your team not defending that...as if it isn't literally the strat every team runs. The proliferation of 3pt ball has made it so that even reinstituting some old rules won't necessarily change player behavior. We see Memphis have most of their starters go down with injury...how does the 2nd tier guys stay in games? Run up the court and jack a 3. I knew when 3 on 1 fastbreaks still led to a 3pt attempt that there was no going back to 90s'-early 2k ball.
You're absolutely right about that. JJ Reddick made a video about how and why offenses are evolving and getting harder to defend in the modern nba
@@curtishenry7926 Yea, and its made my approach to watching as a fan different. Back in the day, I loved watching Man to Man coverage where you have to chase a guy and do everything you can to stop him.
Now? You are going to get a million screens, some of which are going to be uncalled moving screens, and in the case that you do your job as a defender, they have still managed to suck attention into the paint leading to *someone* being open for a 3. I have seen this script play out a lot with my team (The Bulls) where they do everything right defensively but in the last 3-4 seconds of a possession there happens to be a guy open on the elbow or corner who spots for a 3. How do you guard that 40+ times a game? You can't. Some are going to go down. The only way around that is to force every opponent off of the perimeter and into the paint which puts stupid pressure on the center especially if its a 5-out offense.
just adding hand checking back will screw a shooter up, every try to shoot a shot as, just before going up getting bumped, ya know how much harder it is to hit that shot? That is the problem its not the 3 pointer, its the lack of the defense cause the rules don't allow it anymore more. Now you know why it used to be live by the three and die by the three, cause the shooting % will go down when you have just a little be more physicality of the hand check.
yeah Reddick also talks a lot of shit. You might want to ask Dominique Wilkins about what Reddick talks about.
@@curtishenry7926
@entium1 The problem with that is hand-checking would only solve iso ball play and not off-ball and player movement heavy offenses
Of course, scoring percentages are gonna go up when it's easier to get a shot off. People are not as worried as they used to be about getting blocked
two solutions: most importantly, get rid of the three second defense rule. Also, perhaps, push back 3 point line, by a bit.
they built a league for ratings and LeFraud was the propaganda poster child
Bring back hand checking and abolish def 3 second rule.
There is no problem with the NBA.. An entertainment/ highlight reel product is what they're going for.. They know most people don't watch the regular season anymore! If you want to watch a real basketball game than go and watch Fiba or Euroball..
It makes sense to intruct a player to focus more on offense because offensive talent is too good for defenses now. You should check out LOWs video on this if you havent yet. This isnt just teams prioritizing offense with who they hire. Offensive talent is just progressing so quickly that defenses cant keep up. The players arent worse on defense
Thats false. The defenses of the 80s n 90s would destroy these modern day teams.
Depends on which era of rules they play in.
When Wilt Chamberlain scored 100 points against a team staked with small and skinny player's no body said that in that time(60s,70s) the defense system was week, but now when luka scores 73 people start saying that 2024 basketball are lacking defense.
It's so hard to understand the attack player's from this age are much better than the privious age, it's better to say the defense system stopped in time and don't has any responses for unguardeable players KD, Jockic, Gianni's, Curry, imagine those guys in 90s who will actually defend players who can shot from anywhere.
Did any of you actually watch Luka’s game? There were 1 or 2 bad defensive breakdowns. That does not mean the hawks didn’t play defense. Luka was just on one.
Also, a lot of the top performances in NBA history come against defensive teams
I’m tired of seeing a lack of the basics. During the Olympics USA v. serbia (granted it was only the 1st qtr) we were down 5 points and I saw LeBron take a 3 and not a single teammate was inside the 3-point line. We dont see players follow their shot, and I feel like the game offensive rebounds has gone by the wayside.
You can watch euroleague and btw, great Kobi score on shity Toronto defense to.
Are you saying they play better defense in the EuroLeague?
@@And.One.Hoops1 34 games,max 41 to the finale. Every game matters.Its all one big play off. In NBA 82 games + playoff.They cant play hard every game.
@@LL-iy7bg They can too. As proof I give you the fact that they used to.
@@peacocca190They can,yes.But not every team,every game.
Good defense takes a lot of effort, grit, and determination, not to mention the fact that the more you try on defense, the worse it looks if you get put on your ass or dunked on. None of those things fit 98% to 99% of NBA players today because they just ain't cool.
I won’t say the nba is trash. I grew up on it. I love the game. But…. Talent hasn’t increased. Defense has decreased. Drastically. No way you have 3 players score 50+ in the same week. This is ridiculous. It’s all start weekend every game. Ok… I won’t say this for every team. Nuggets are monsters, gsw do fight provided that had a hand in inadvertently teams to “just shoot 3s”. Defense is married to offense… I just don’t really see it these days.
I blame Steve Nash and D'Antoni. Or should I say "Antoni" with no D.
What happened to NBA basketball as a whole? No strategy, tactics, imagination, skill, intelligence... just frantically running, jumping, and shooting as soon as you see the basket. If there was no Jokić, it would be unwatchable.
U can’t really play defense because spacing it’s way harder to play defense than ever
Absolutely Correct! That's my thoughts on this.
The NBA sucks no defense weak. I have I'll stop watching the NBA in 2019
Yes defense is the primary problem of this league, next to it is the entitlement of these brats. Take away these player flowers and femove Silver ears that's the first step of how to fix this crap league. They think they can foo the people by just having 70 points a lot in a season. But the NBa's problem is their target audience are the kids and Kiddo minded aint working for the mature once.
There are more skilled players in todays NBA. If defense were the problem then majority of the players would score 25ppg.
Yuh more skilled then there was just 5 seasons ago. While I think players do get a little more skilled as generations go on that doesn’t solely constitute a meteoric rise in offensive production in under 5 years there’s obviously other factors at play.
To me? All these recent records are simply a way to show the NBA is bleeding terribly and trying a last ditch effort to keep fans engaged. And it's not working. As long as Lebron is allowed to ruin this beautiful game, it will continue to deteriorate.
The NBA went to far when it got rid of Hand checking. The game has been a boring scoring show ever since. Defense doesn't matter, and traveling isn't called worth a damn either now. Bring back hand checking and defense, and maybe I'll tune back in after all of these years of boring basketball.
You can thank the golden state warriors for why it seems like there’s no defense
The GSW were defense juggernaut, though.
It's almost unwatchable. I think I'd rather watch hockey, football, baseball, or NASCAR over basketball.
@And.One.Hoops1 Pet peeve of mine: at 8:19 you start a sentence with: "Now, for me personally, I". Who is 'me'? Who does 'personally' mean? Who is 'I'? See where i'm going?
You are not allowed to play defense in the NBA. Everything is a foul
What i do not want is people saying that players do not care about defense. It is really harder to defend now and there are plenty more ways to run offense.
The over emphasis on shooting 3s and the consistently questionable officiating and the rules favoring offense over defense are the main reasons for the teams averages being as high as they are despite the poor fundamentals of most players. Team USA did not even medal in the world championships. The league is inconsistent with maintaining the integrity of the game and it's rules and everyone can see that especially if they have watched old school basketball from the early 2000s and prior decades. Kobe, David Robinson and MJ etc were great and fundamentally sound scorers who weren't nearly as dependent on the 3 as today's players. Wilt averaged over 50 points and 48 minutes for a season and scored 100 points in a game with zero 3s taken because the 3 point shot was not available yet and Gervin didn't need 3s to score 73.
Adam silver is to blame. Everything is a foul everything is a technical. Everything is not a travel.
Still waiting for footage of Wilt’s 100 pt game
8:09 the integrity and competitiveness of the game is already ruined, it's just getting worse now. Professional basketball will never return to its peak or former glory.
I wouldn't go that far.....the sport is still very exciting and brings a lot of viewership
@@And.One.Hoops1 To each their own, but I don't think every game being a 3-point contest is exciting at all. The game is so boring to watch now, and even the games that are exciting to watch the refs somehow end up ruining them. Today's league sucks bad.
Kobe didnt have anyone playing stong defense on him in that 81 point game. Jalen rose only guarded him for a few plays. And jalen was a terrible defender regardless. That 81 point kobe game was impressive, but no one was playing great or good defense on him thats for sure.
Shit like this is why LeBron scoring record don't mean shit
The NBAs Rating Were Down So They Turned Defence Off and Turned Fouls For Nothing On Too :)
Theres no defense players cant play real defense or theyget foul calls they want high points. And im kinda done with this garbage league.
How much of defense essentially pulling its punches is fear of injuring another player? All the players are in a kind of wealthy players club which makes it a shared insider club against the world perhaps.
I actually think about that as well.....feel like guys don't go as hard on defense just to avoid injuries
“Transition take foul”
Defense stopped after the Malice in the Palace of Auburn Hills. Forever known as the day NBA defense died. And they were singin' 🎶bye bye Miss Amer......
Absolutely goated content creator. Speaks facts
We don’t enjoy it. It’s not basketball. They travel all the time, they carry it and get away with it. Nobody can play tough defense. It’s trashketball
Everyone cries that no defense rule bs but there are more foul calls in the 90s with less pace and fga than there are in today's watered down nba
22 for the 90's and 19 for the 20's.
Check out the players who are doing 70. They are all generational talents. When you start seeing the Jeremy Lambs, Terrance Ross's and Brook Lopez's start to lut up 60 ots a cause for concern but are we surprised Luka and Embiid in their primes are doing it? Calm down people
You could see the "attention to detail" defense on playoffs
A team scoring 145 is a yawn these days. The legendary run & gun Suns of old would be a bottom team in the modern game.
I don't knwo what gae you're watching but it already is boring to watch because the game lacks balance. It ISN'T impressive when these guys score 70 as they slowly trot around the 3 point line and take their time to take a jump shot or clumsily take 4-5 steps to the basket without putting the ball on the floor. Today's game is a disgrace.
What happen with defence?when Wilt Chamberlain?
Those high-scoring games are boring to watch. No hand-checking, no 80s, 90s basketball style - just offensive display - boring......
Players like Curry, Harden, Embiid, Doncic, Towns, Booker are overrated. The traveling violation of these players like LBJ, Harden (worst offender of them all) are insufferable.
Defense has been legislated out of the league
The NBA isn’t worth watching. Zero defense and Zero physicality in the game. Anyone who can play basketball can go out there and score 20 points. On Any Night
Yeah it’s just due to ZERO D and unlimited floor spacing . It has nothing to do with this “ amazing “ talent that’s the best ever . Bring back some Hand checking and you won’t be seeing this often . It’s actually embarrassing seeing what the nba has become .
Why are you bringing Kobe 81 points game as a starting talking point..is this a reflex? The defensless era started at 2004 after Detroit destroyed LA in the finals something that messed up expectations of the second coming of Jesus that NBA needed so much..they heavily deregulated the game in favor of offense PERIOD..that year only one player averaged over 25 ppg(Tracy Mcgrady with 28 + and Kobe had 24.5 ppg)..immediately after something like 8 player including 4 guards were scoring close to 30..now they are at the point that 43 players average over 20 in 2023 season, 5 players short of a full 4 teams roaster!!!!..its a defenseless spectacle not a competitive sport any more with traveling and carrying completely out of control and rebounding defensive bricks and assists to stationary shooters inflating stats and "triple clown doubles"..Unfortunately for the Kobe myth he was the first super star that benefited from that deregulation package regardless if he was the best scorer of his era.. the rules change, added 3 ppg in his career stat sheet easy!Kobe was not that efficient either, he shot .48 in 2 pnt attempts..AI was even worse! Regarding Lebron at least 30 percent of his points are blatant travels or offensive fouls or he is getting bailed from the refs at the free throw line in situations that he fails miserably in his drives to the rim!
Shooting 3’s over the last 5+ years or so is like the steroid era in baseball when anyone in the lineup could go yard. It took away every other aspect of the game. In baseball during that era, basic fundamentals disappeared. Teams relied on the home run, or bust. The same goes for basketball. Everyone can shoot and make 3’s. Seven footers shoot 3’s like SG’s. Just like baseball, basketball has become a boring, one dimensional drag.
It’s telling how many of these 60+ and 70+ scoring performances couldn’t secure the win for the team.
Call me old-fashioned, but these trends seem to mirror what we see in society generally. Increased selfishness, narcissism, individualism, hedonism and permissiveness. It’s some end of an empire, late-Rome stuff. Kinda crazy that these trends haven’t peaked out yet but they will.
Similarly, we see young stars getting crazy boosted by the media, getting the bag after one decent season and then losing motivation to keep improving.
Worst of all, the supposed face of the NBA, LBJ, is probably the worst role model you could ask for. Watch how players on his team tend to flop more. Every year, Lebron somehow becomes more petty, more petulant, more vicious and aggressive and all-around just an overgrown manchild. The way he bulldozes to the rim like an out of control locomotive, knowing he’ll get a call. Throwing the ball as hard as he could at Scottie Barnes’ head last year.
Barnes is actually one of the brighter stars, if you want players who play hard, play good defense and are team first. Barnes was the bigger man in the last Lakers/Raptors game, getting manhandled and abused by Lebron, but the calls only went against the Raptors.
We need way more players like Barnes and way less like Bron. And generally, society wide, we need 10,000% less narcissism, hedonism and selfishness. Anyway.
They fucked defense up with putting a condom my guy.
All I see in the nba games are all the threes, looking for foul calls, free throws, techs and shots for shots.
Flopping, arguing with refs all the damn time instead of keeping up with the play. I can go on on and on.
Where's the moving the ball, making stops (defense), in the paint midranges.
Players play like they are so delicate and so cute ,low-key lazy. And this is coming from a lady at 60yrs young.
THE NBA IS SOFT. THE COMMISSIONER IS ALSO SOFT.
Defense left the chat many years ago, the nba is a f*cking joke 🙃
No defense in NBA.
They perfected scoring simple
NBA has become boring af. Look at NFL games yday, Chiefs defense ATE. It was super fun to watch. Nowadays, people just run around and shoot 3s,....thinking of getting into NHL instead.