Hey I'm trying to tune my first kit and am still super confused about each head. I had made a drumeo account several months ago and never got to actually use my free trial. Is there advice you can give?
"We have our whole lives to play drums, take your time." Dude you're awesome, your double base technique was the first drum instructional I ever purchased. That was many years ago, I'm still a fan. Rock on, keep making these videos!
I know this was seven years ago but this just made me pause the video, stare up at the ceiling and think about myself being an old man absolutely ripping drums. Looking forward to it. Cheers
Its not about what kind if kit you have ! I use to have groove percussion kits with evans heads on them and tune em up and they sound amazing. All you have to do is throw on brand heads to your liking evans,remo,aquarian etc and tune em up you'll surprise yourself
Go to zzounds.com Or American musical supply online.. Both of those websites give musicians an opportunity to buy all the gear they need for monthly payments. I bought my pdp dw 7 piece kit with all new batters and resonate heads, cymbal packs, throne, stands, and fee other for under 2grand paying 100+ a month for 8 months and zzounds in 2015 I Just received 3 packages yesterday from AMS with new sabian cymbal pack, all new drums heads, gopro camera etc etc for 200 for the next 5 months. They even do no credit checks. It can happen if u want it to
NO worries man, thats why those drums are priced as high as they are. A good drum will have a good tone from the shell as well as the head, where as with a cheaper set, most of the good tones will be coming from the head itself! There are plenty of great videos for making cheaper drumsets sound really good through getting good heads, some dampening, and a little tuning!
I have played around with the drums for as long as I can remember. My dad is an amazing drummer but until recently I haven't taken it seriously. As a surprise My dad bought me a Pearl Vision 5 piece drum set to replace the the badly used and damaged one I have been playing on at my church. Your videos on tuning have helped me soooo much! I have also watched a lot of your videos on keeping time and downloaded the metronome app. It all has helped immensely, especially because I don't have any other drummer friends who can help me and my dad is in another state so I was at a complete loss on how to tune and I have to have a decent sounding set by Wednesday. I just watched the video on how to tune the kick and it already sounds SSSOOOO much better. Its funny, a lot of people think that playing the drums is just a sort of Neanderthal act of beating on something with a stick and so when I would try to explain to people how much trouble I was having no one really understood that there is ACTUAL thought that goes into it! But thanks so much for your help!!!
This is why I love this channel. No bullshit advice like "you need to do it this way". I have so much downtime to learn and really dig deep with improving my playing since I had major leg surgery recently. Thanks for the great videos!
Ok, I just want to point out, I notice when you put your drum heads on, you should equally tension each tension rod across from one another instead of clockwise around the drum shell. This is going to allow your drum head to sit better on the shell instead of having an uneven amount of pressure going down on one side of the drum head. It's ultimately going to mess with the full optimal amount of resonance of your drums, over all tone, and sound of them too. I'm not saying the drums sound bad and if your ears agree, then by all means tune them they way you'd like, but generally speaking, I don't think it's the best thing to be demonstrating what is generally considered to be an improper drum tuning technique by most drummers. Cheers!
Good job! And for everyone, you dont need to spent 10k on a set for amazing drum sounds. I just tuned my Yamaha stage custom, using his tips and it sounds way better now.
I like to use two keys and use graduated tightening at opposing lugs in a rotational progression. This saves a lot of time and benefits the head as it cross tensions to final preferred tuning. Yet and in short, whatever works for you, well, works!
I love the lessons .and I dont mind saying that I'm 47 yrs old .ive always loved drums .I can't sing so I tried drums .When I was younger I always wanted a drum set .but mom and dad couldn't afford them .so I let my dream to play with peter criss the best drummer in my eyes .next to everyone who pick up a drum stick I love you guys and gals. I finally have a set of my owni have to say its amazing I wish I could have done this all my life .but when I would go to concerts I would always watched the drummers first show was Kiss , peter criss a rock god in my eyes .I know I will never be as good as peter criss ., or the ones who play daily. Part because getting older not as lumber .but I will always say a prayer for you .the drummer so god keeps you well please I think everyone in the band are great and with out there be no shows .but the drummer in my eyes are talented. I wish I could have followed my dream to be a drummer. God bless you all who play every night .now go rock the hell out of those drums. ..................♡
Jared says: "I remember when I was 15 or 16...I remember struggling with tom sound." Hey Jared! Clue train! It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you're now tuning/playing DW's top of the line series could it???
Cold Sleep, We could call Jared, Jared Baker in honor of the Ginger Man, Gingher Baker - he was adept at Tom playing which introduced some African influences with being a Master of Syncopation in his playing. Watch some Ginger's solos from the past and /or watch Beware Mr. Baker documentary. A very Cranky person, but a Helluva Drummer who took Rock Drumming to the Forefront. May he RIP. Br well and safe All in the era of CVV.
I just bought a Tama Silverstar (birch). Changed the stock heads to Remo Coated Emperor and they sound BEAUTIFUL! Nice & warm with medium resonance and sustain. I like the bottom head being a little more loose as well!
Its late, I live in an apartment, I'm watching this with the volume super low and STILL could immediately hear the slightest variations on the tom lugs as you tuned. lol. It ain't rocket science to those who have problems with tuning drums, if you're having trouble its because you're over thinking it and you're not trusting your ears or your gut... just relax. let the tuning happen, follow this wise young man's instructions, and your kit will sound fantastic.
Bear in mind that a half-turn on a DW drum, which has really fine threaded tension rods, isn't going to be the same as a half-turn on a Ludwig, or Gretsch, or Pearl, or Tama, which all have larger/coarser threads on their rods.
Thanks for the tips, Been really trying to use my ears to help dial in the perfect sound on my kit, after watching your video I tuned my resonant heads and got the best tom sound Ive ever had. Made last nights show a blast!!
I learned many years ago to start with the lowest drum first. This is for the purpose of ‘relationship’ between the toms. You may tune the smaller ones too high by the time you get to the floors, and then the whole set is too high. Start with the floors and go up.
Me too. There is no way to remove ALL overtones naturally, and even the slightest overtone that most people would thinks sounds fine I HAVE to tune it out.
I OCD over the position of the heads.... I use clear Remo Pinstripes over clear Ambassadors..... The logos have to be in line with each other, as well as the drum logo.
unf , maple drums I love the sound of maple , I have a birch kit from Mapex , something I'd like to say about the mix is that the overheads , or maybe one of the close mics has a really weird frec annoying my ears , this happens in the intro , look out for volumens ! and that's all :)
Good video. When I change out my drum heads, I check the rim for burrs and clean the rim. Before I put the new head on, I'll take an old candle or paraffin block and run it around the rim of the drum. This helps lubricate the head so I don't have to seat the head. Been playing since 1974, keep on rockin!
I think those 14" and 16" toms are hanging on a double tom stand. And they seem to be holding pretty well. I was looking into converting mine into floor toms but I think it's worth giving this a try seeing that it worked for you. Legs and brackets reduce the resonance quite a bit when compared to rack toms.
The high pitch overtones in my floor tom almost overpower the rumble, it's awful. I cam to this video for help but he literally just puts on his heads and it sounds amazing. He could take a shit on his floor tom and it would sound great
I always wipe down my rims while they are off to make sure I have all of the drum stick shavings off the rim. I tour and have been playing a lot of outdoor shows and festivals recently and this step helps with corrosion build up due to condensation from your drums going through all sorts of different climate changes. Love your content! 🤘🏻
Sdvc49 I bought the carlsbro csd500 electric drum kit. For the tom 1 2 and 3. Could I use Tom 1 high for Tom 1, Tom 1 medium for Tom 2, and Tom 1 low for Tom 3. I know I sound stupid. Or does it have to be Tom 1 for Tom 1, Tom 2 for Tom 2, and Tom 3 for Tom 3. Thanks in advance
A simple straight forward technique, sounds good. Tuning the drum to its' natural tone is the best way. You still get the bounce, but not the overtones.
Old school tuning....almost exactly how I tune. And I love Evan's Coated G2s....and Jared can play any Evan's head he wants. Awesome. My challenge in tuning the toms....the 12" tom....my main Tom. It's an elusive sound to get sometimes. I drive my band leader crazy if I try to tune at all at the gig.
For Rock and Metal, I would recommend a thicker head. Try out the Evans EC2 SST heads, they're great!! If you want a really dead and thick sound, check out the Hydraulics. They have clear glass, blue, and black hydraulic heads, each giving a different sound. If you want a more open tone try out the G2 clears or coated. Keep in mind coated gives you a less open and less sustained tone, and darker toned. All Evans, and your kit will sound incredible!
Gotta say, as a music educator, this is an issue that continues to come up. I don't consider myself a "hater", but I do have an issue with you even saying that people hate when they suggest that you may not be teaching this in the most successful way. Again, you make a good point in that there isn't only one way to do it, but I do recommend tuning the lugs across from eachother for clarity and maintaining integrity of the heads as well. It just seems like you saying that they just sound amazing allows you do convey it isn't worth doing things thoroughly
You have to keep pushing those G2 Coated heads. I've been using them for a year now. In the last 40 years of playing I never found heads like these. Like you said they sound amazing as soon as you put them on. Great tones, nice and deep, they hold their sound. Everybody treat yourself and buy these heads today!
Yeah man u have done more than your fair share of helpful videos. you taught me alot and made me secure with the stuff I did know. I love the sound u go for, sounds great, and exactly what I try n get out of my set ,dry thud with warm, tone. A good teacher separates his personal habits and simplifys the subject matter, a fine job. I make all my wanna be drummer freinds watch your videos. anywhere from hitting the drum to tuning and muting. love it. Haha these vids, have saved me hours of explaining time.!! can't wait for another
I've never seen a drummer tighten the rim in sequence, I've always tightened in a criss-cross pattern. Great tuning though, the heads sound great. I just ordered the Evans 360 Oil Filled heads. They sound great. Love Evans heads.
thanks for posting this video. I used to play years ago . and now I only have room for a stage set toms only set is Ludwig with 2 tom's 8x8 and 10x8 with heavy duty floor stand. your video has helped me to tune proper. I have evans heads as well.
I think this is as detailed as you can get in 22 minutes. Tuning may not be rocket science, but it is a process only learned with experience. Keep in mind, this method may not work for all, especially if you don't want stick marks on your reso heads (mallets work best). But, as you gain experience you change what doesn't work and keep or enhance what does. Many drummers seeing drum tuning with anything but a star pattern (going across and diagonal to the next lug) is anathema, so...take of it what you will. A higher reso head vs. batter head helps with projection of the drum. It helps to project in the mix of musicians without adding more mic volume, per se. Having both reso and batter head equal in tune will increase the length of the fundamental tone of the drum, which may or may not be desirable, The batter head higher than the reso will enhance the attack or the drum. Generally, I operate in the higher reso than batter category as a rule. 26 years of this rule and my drums sound just fine, I've had no complaints. I add another step, which would require the drums in your lap or on the floor. When I get them in playing range, I then turn each lug a half to a full turn, then push with my fist in the center of the head with a towel (so I don't leave a fist print on a clear head) to seat the head on the bearing edge. This seating will bring the pitch down some, so after seating I bring it back up to pitch. I find this gives me a more prolonged tone and even tone from the drums. NB we're not talking about snares here, but just for the record: DON'T seat snare-side heads with your fist!!! Bone-headed move on my part on that one. Luckily, it only happened that one time. As for the messenger of said information, if we were to only accept information from famous professional drummers who've toured all their life or studio guys who've lived in the studio...there's no guarantee that these guys even had to deal with any of that stuff past a certain level. At the highest level, these famous professionals have people to tune and setup drums for them. So...were going to hold their information as gospel because they're famous or toured forever? It means I couldn't have any students get information from me because I'm not a household name. Guys like Jared with Drumeo and Cobus with DrumChannel are helping drummers all over the world with this information, and it's not like they're an island; there are how many people to support or contradict any information these guys are providing. So I say keep it up, it helps us all. I only wish that DrumChannel and Drumeo were available when I started playing back in the late 80's...drum info was hard to come by, and I tried to get my hands on everything I could!
Excellent , the tip on tuning the bottom head the same makes sense to me. Also my bass player mentioned how he other bands drummer uses the dial and felt maybe my old school use your ear and feel of the drum head response was outdated but I guess not. 👊
Hi, to be honest, this is the first video from Jared what makes me question whether this was a good investment of 23 minutes of my life. I think in this time you could actually say much more about the options and other ways how to tune. Perhaps even different tunings for a few distinctive music genres. I know it is a matter of taste, but honestly - by saying "Get yourself a good drums and drumheads and it will be very easy to tune and get good sound" I am not so sure this will satisfy the most of the drummers watching this. For instance - I have always struggled to get nice sustain - not so long but kind of live. And there are a lot of ways to achieve this even without dampening - like tuning the reso head higher. Equal tune on both heads = the longest tone and that is not always desired. Otherwise I am very fond of what you are doing and I think it is very beneficial for the drumming community. Peace
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been struggling with snare tuning for years cause I kinda suck and this just clicked for me. old batter head went from a $2.35 sounding head to a big $10 for sure. my band mates will be happy. cheers from YUMA Collective.
Zack Mester Have you replaced the heads? Just keep trying. It takes time to get that perfect sound. With enough patience you can make a terrible drumset sound pro.
Zack Mester Ludwig accent series wasn't bad those are deep drums. I think one thing that they failed to discuss was the role of each drum head, reso and batter, and more or less that idea of a perfect step down much like when a guitar is tuned and the strings all have the same sequential drop thats what you can almost imagine for your drums. Keep your batter head as your pitch control and your reso head as the depth control also watch Bob Gatzens tuning method he goes more into the cross tuning and how the lugs affect one another
It depends on your preference if you want the low thump sounds on your toms,use Remo pinestripe heads,the heads are 2ply 7 mil. I personally have pinestripe on my ludwig rocker elite and it sounds great
It is personal preference. If you do choose to use Evans drum heads, then for the top heads, and for a dark tone, you would opt to try out the Black Chrome, EC2 Frosted or Clear, Hydraulics, or Onyx. For brighter tones, go for the G14, G12, or G1. The G2 heads are the mid range tone. Then again, that's based on personal preference, and also depends on what sound you're trying to achieve.
17:40 This almost sounds like the first four notes of “Mary Had A Little Lamb” over and over. 🎶“Mary had a..”, “Mary had a..”, “Mary had a..”🎶 I was just waiting for him to hit that left tom three more times at the end, and get that “little lamb”resolution to it! 😂
You have no idea how much this helped me out. I've been tuning my drums forevever and I could not get the sound I was looking for whatsoever but after watching this, my toms sound like a drum tech of 50 years tuned them. You're methods are unbelievable. Thank you so much!!
I feel like I'm being taught by Napolean Dynamite! But hey! I LOVE it! What I can't yet understand (I'm a beginner) is how your beats are so fluid and effortless. Is it a "getting your hands in shape?" man that's awesome. My brother just gave me his old drummer's set of Yamaha's 7 pc set. and I'm really wanting to learn. As a 57 year old, maybe I'm too old, but I'm trying.
sigh i cant tune my drums for shit, i take all the keys out and finger tighten them till i cant turn any more then turn each rod atleast once or twice each evenly and it still doesnt sound right to me but i dont want to spend like fifty fuckin dollars just to see if its right or not...
Do what he did and tune each lug. On both sides. batter and reso. I've never come across a kit that didn't sound good when tuned right. And like he said experiment. your top head might actually sound good but your reso is ruining shit.
first and foremost new double ply skins.if for some reason they don't sound good, then mute with duct tape or gel on the side that's really reslly very important especially with cheaper sets to get rid of that metallic sound, I start with my front high tom or low tom then make the rest relative to that w.e. u no best sound wise. your bottom heads are resonating the initial hit on the front head so if the drums arent great u dnt want them to resonate a whole lot, your going to be relying on the skin more than the wood on lower quality set, ive done and hears both the following, tune bottom head lower than front head. if u dnt like it try tuning it higher thsn the front. I'd say stay on the looser end then mute with tape honestly I've been playing cheap sets and making them sound good for years promise get a relatively nice pitch or stable tone out of each tom get them close to a drumset u can sound copy. then mute with a 3 to 5 inch piece of duct tape on the furthest side of the front skin. somthing that will be very sticky i no gorilla tape deff. works best u dnt want the pieces of tape to peel off in the corners then u will get a vibrating out of it. hold your warm hand on the tape for 30 sec or so let it bond b4 u ply
Plexus like he said, it may sound horrible to you, and that's ok. Tune your drums to what you like. If that's the way he likes it, then that is the way he is going to tune it.
I can't really make a guess without knowing what you are doing but in my experience when helping people get their drums tuned they are usually putting too much tension on the heads. He goes over his process pretty well here but speaks very little of the actual amount of tension he is using. i like to make them finger tight then just go up in about quarter turns until the head just starts to resonate. then start making little 1/8th turns until i am happy.
I don’t know if he mentions this but a real easy way to tune your toms is to of course make sure that all of your tom’s tension screws are loose to the max then finger tighten them and place your palm in the middle of the drum head and gently push down in the drumhead until you see the creases in the drum head, proceed to tighten each tension screw until each crease straightens out and disappears. Do this for top and bottom heads and your tom’s will sound nice and tuned.
It doesn't start with the drums. It starts with the acoustics of your room. You can buy the most expensive, awesome cymbal and yet it will sound horrifying if your room is untreated or just basically not suited for loud environments.
First time on Drumeo after wondering how it's possible this channel gets so many views.. My thoughts: 1. In 28 years of playing the drumset, today I learned how NOT to tune a set of drums from this guy. 2. Start with the lowest drum in a kit if you wish to tune the entire kit. 3. Tapping on the edge of the drum head next to tension rod does nothing to tune the drum - STRETCH the head with your thumbs by pushing down on the head after you have even tension around the head. 4. No one strikes the resonant side with a stick to "tune" the drum. Don't be lazy Jared, it looks like investors have thrown money at your studio and you recieve free drums. So simply take the drum off of the mount, turn it upside down and tune it correctly (this side first) as the drum sits on the floor then lift it up to hear it's tone as you swipe it (I highly doubt this guy knows how to tune timpani drums) with your fingers then turn it over to hold the drum in the air as you play the batter side to check the entire drum. It's almost as if this channel started out as a parody but so many inexperienced drummers piled on and now it's as if Jared thinks he can convey knowledge just by talking about it. Let's be honest, the mics made the rack toms tolerable then the first floor tom was just a mess and finally the last floor tom was just acceptable because of the way the other floor tom sounded so bad. I am only leaving a lengthy (voice to text) post here because I think this guy is actually hurting drummers more than he is helping them. Along with the anomaly (also funded and mediocre at best of a drummer) Cobus, channels like this make younger players think that the drums are all about this sort of studio set up, the mics, the video editing, etc. When modern drummers grew up - those of us that actually play out - not stuck in fantasyland on Y/T (no one hires Cobus or Jared to play on their records so theres the answer to such novelty...) we just simply played in time to records and "wood-shedded" around those practice sessions teaching ourselves orginality and through trial and error - tuned our drums correctly. This guys is teaching the WRONG way to tune drums but because the culture of monetization of such videos based on high views (of uneducated people), the drum companies continue to give this guy drums, gear, etc as if he's earned it or is a valid educator or player to give such advice. There is no substitute for experience and it is quite obvious this guy Jared has very little. What is the expression again: "Those who cannot do, teach." right? That's exactly what the world of online drumming has become. A world of dreamers instead of doers. Just get on your kits everyone, tune to your ear and explore as deeply as you can if you cannot afford lessons. Coming to youtube to "learn" from people that have never toured or recored professionally is just a joke. I can't imagine all of the bad sounding drumkits out there in the world from the players that have watched this video and took the bells and whistles involved in this production as something to work from. Just a disservice to drummers all around. I have never heard a DW kit sound so bad in my life. Just terrible...
You can't cry "it's the wrong way" without explaining. The only concrete action that you criticized is hitting the reso head with a stick, which, honestly, is not a big deal on a tom-tom because they are similar thickness as the batters. Most of your arguments about Jared are fallacious per Ad-Hominem (i.e. "Jared has nice mics and a studio, gets free drums, therefore his method of tuning is wrong). Your only concrete explanation of the "right way" is to " just simply (play) in time to records and ("wood-shed") around those practice sessions teaching ourselves orginality and through trial and error - tuned our drums correctly." That is not a method and makes no sense. I *think* the point you are trying to make is that through those experiences you learned to tune your drums correctly, vis-a-vis through experience, but you didn't make that connection very well. The take-aways I got from the video were: 1) Batter-and-reso in tune sounds good 2) An alternative is a reso tuned below batter 3) Tune to the intervals you want to hear (or hear in your head) 4) You won't learn drum tuning over-night I'm not seeing what is "wrong" with his method. More importantly, I read your whole comment because I WANT criticism of this video because I am looking for input about drum tuning, but you didn't mention any specific examples. Can you reply with some specifics about what you didn't like about his methods?
Jared and Cobus have actually recorded professionally. Jared has been hired many times previously to do studio work with other projects, but he doesn't talk about it much. Also, he has a whole set of engineers, Victor, and the "Monkeys", who control the audio and video. Jared has been teaching for many, many years, and it seems as if you think this is Jared in a room in his house mixing, recording, and editing all by himself. Drumeo is a real thing, with wonderful players. God, some of the "Veteran" drummers can be so ignorant and full of the old fashioned way, like some of the baby boomers.
adamcrookedsmile Dave Lombardo of Slayer plays a cheap ass imperialstar. Bryan Hitt of REO Speedwagon plays a $899 Ludwig. The "you have to have expensive gear" thing is a myth.
To be honest, I thought you had a near perfect sound on that 12" tom when you hit it at 9:35. I actually heard WAY more overtones after you tuned it up more. Maybe it just sounds different through the mics than it did from your angle and not through the mics (as can often be the case), but I probably would have left that drum alone and then tried to tune the other ones around it.
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Hey I'm trying to tune my first kit and am still super confused about each head. I had made a drumeo account several months ago and never got to actually use my free trial. Is there advice you can give?
0:37 Don't ever, ever, EVER touch my drum set.
I find that the firmer I push my ear buds into my ear the better my drums sound.
Ear buds or ear plugs?
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That’s funny 😆
Or noise canceling headphones 🔥
Yes.
20:12 "...I'm looking for that du, do, doo, dooo."
Every drummer: [Understands exactly what he's talking about] 💯
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@@nickmaille5951 LOL 😂
Exactly! hahahaha
Best pic!
I do, what you don't speak "Rack Tom"?
Jared Falk: *hits tom*
Me: "wow thats sounds amazing"
Jared: "now that doesnt sound good at all"
that rare moment you find another cuber drummer
+Elian Idioma whats your 3x3 pb?
Speed Cube Sam a slow 16
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LOL me too bro
"We have our whole lives to play drums, take your time." Dude you're awesome, your double base technique was the first drum instructional I ever purchased. That was many years ago, I'm still a fan. Rock on, keep making these videos!
I know this was seven years ago but this just made me pause the video, stare up at the ceiling and think about myself being an old man absolutely ripping drums. Looking forward to it. Cheers
Quick tip! If you want lower tom pitches, start with the lowest floor tom, and work your way up!
I'mTheDrummer Great advice thanks!
Thanks lad!
That's fucking smart! I never thought of doing that. Thank you
Question does mics affect the sound of toms
@@jasonevans5480 suppose they could if the mic is directly clamped on.
How to tune your toms? First:
Get a good drums!
Me: 😥
Its not about what kind if kit you have ! I use to have groove percussion kits with evans heads on them and tune em up and they sound amazing. All you have to do is throw on brand heads to your liking evans,remo,aquarian etc and tune em up you'll surprise yourself
@@jahkmusic5729 thanks man.. I guess I'll give it a try too
Go to zzounds.com
Or American musical supply online..
Both of those websites give musicians an opportunity to buy all the gear they need for monthly payments.
I bought my pdp dw 7 piece kit with all new batters and resonate heads, cymbal packs, throne, stands, and fee other for under 2grand paying 100+ a month for 8 months and zzounds in 2015
I Just received 3 packages yesterday from AMS with new sabian cymbal pack, all new drums heads, gopro camera etc etc for 200 for the next 5 months. They even do no credit checks.
It can happen if u want it to
Out of tune pra caralho! Kkkk
NO worries man, thats why those drums are priced as high as they are. A good drum will have a good tone from the shell as well as the head, where as with a cheaper set, most of the good tones will be coming from the head itself! There are plenty of great videos for making cheaper drumsets sound really good through getting good heads, some dampening, and a little tuning!
One of my favorite sounds in the world is the sound of a drumkey hitting a tension lug!!!!
Enjoyable sound
How about that sound of the sticks rolling off your floor-tom and hitting the floor?
Yeeeas
@@B-a-t-m-a-n hahahahhaahahha
It's a distinct sound!
I have played around with the drums for as long as I can remember. My dad is an amazing drummer but until recently I haven't taken it seriously. As a surprise My dad bought me a Pearl Vision 5 piece drum set to replace the the badly used and damaged one I have been playing on at my church. Your videos on tuning have helped me soooo much! I have also watched a lot of your videos on keeping time and downloaded the metronome app. It all has helped immensely, especially because I don't have any other drummer friends who can help me and my dad is in another state so I was at a complete loss on how to tune and I have to have a decent sounding set by Wednesday. I just watched the video on how to tune the kick and it already sounds SSSOOOO much better. Its funny, a lot of people think that playing the drums is just a sort of Neanderthal act of beating on something with a stick and so when I would try to explain to people how much trouble I was having no one really understood that there is ACTUAL thought that goes into it! But thanks so much for your help!!!
Forest Morrell I also have a pearl vision kit!
This is why I love this channel. No bullshit advice like "you need to do it this way". I have so much downtime to learn and really dig deep with improving my playing since I had major leg surgery recently. Thanks for the great videos!
Ok, I just want to point out, I notice when you put your drum heads on, you should equally tension each tension rod across from one another instead of clockwise around the drum shell. This is going to allow your drum head to sit better on the shell instead of having an uneven amount of pressure going down on one side of the drum head. It's ultimately going to mess with the full optimal amount of resonance of your drums, over all tone, and sound of them too. I'm not saying the drums sound bad and if your ears agree, then by all means tune them they way you'd like, but generally speaking, I don't think it's the best thing to be demonstrating what is generally considered to be an improper drum tuning technique by most drummers. Cheers!
Ben LaRose lol douche
Good job!
And for everyone, you dont need to spent 10k on a set for amazing drum sounds.
I just tuned my Yamaha stage custom, using his tips and it sounds way better now.
I like to use two keys and use graduated tightening at opposing lugs in a rotational progression. This saves a lot of time and benefits the head as it cross tensions to final preferred tuning. Yet and in short, whatever works for you, well, works!
I love the lessons .and I dont mind saying that I'm 47 yrs old .ive always loved drums .I can't sing so I tried drums .When I was younger I always wanted a drum set .but mom and dad couldn't afford them .so I let my dream to play with peter criss the best drummer in my eyes .next to everyone who pick up a drum stick I love you guys and gals. I finally have a set of my owni have to say its amazing I wish I could have done this all my life .but when I would go to concerts I would always watched the drummers first show was Kiss , peter criss a rock god in my eyes .I know I will never be as good as peter criss ., or the ones who play daily. Part because getting older not as lumber .but I will always say a prayer for you .the drummer so god keeps you well please I think everyone in the band are great and with out there be no shows .but the drummer in my eyes are talented. I wish I could have followed my dream to be a drummer. God bless you all who play every night .now go rock the hell out of those drums. ..................♡
Jared says: "I remember when I was 15 or 16...I remember struggling with tom sound."
Hey Jared! Clue train! It couldn't have anything to do with the fact that you're now tuning/playing DW's top of the line series could it???
Man, Jared's drumming is beautiful. That long set of tom rolls at the end was just a work of art.
Yes. Reminded me of quad players in marching band.
Cold Sleep, We could call Jared, Jared Baker in honor of the Ginger Man, Gingher Baker - he was adept at Tom playing which introduced some African influences with being a Master of Syncopation in his playing. Watch some Ginger's solos from the past and /or watch Beware Mr. Baker documentary. A very Cranky person, but a Helluva Drummer who took Rock Drumming to the Forefront. May he RIP. Br well and safe All in the era of CVV.
I always found them harder to tune but that is my personal opinion. I'd recommend trying different heads to find your own sound.
I just bought a Tama Silverstar (birch). Changed the stock heads to Remo Coated Emperor and they sound BEAUTIFUL! Nice & warm with medium resonance and sustain. I like the bottom head being a little more loose as well!
Having good mics help it sound that way
Shadow 3091 ya and so does good tuning
Good mics won't change pitch of your tuned drums
Its late, I live in an apartment, I'm watching this with the volume super low and STILL could immediately hear the slightest variations on the tom lugs as you tuned. lol. It ain't rocket science to those who have problems with tuning drums, if you're having trouble its because you're over thinking it and you're not trusting your ears or your gut... just relax. let the tuning happen, follow this wise young man's instructions, and your kit will sound fantastic.
Bear in mind that a half-turn on a DW drum, which has really fine threaded tension rods, isn't going to be the same as a half-turn on a Ludwig, or Gretsch, or Pearl, or Tama, which all have larger/coarser threads on their rods.
Thanks man, I'm 12 and I just got a pearl export kit for my first acoustic set and I was clueless on how to tune the drums 👍
Follow the studio drummers (not the live drummers). Seek excellence and perfection.
Your age doesn't matter man
My first kit was a pearl export, just an amazing kit to have. I still have it too.
him: The key is you need 1) good drums and 2) good drum heads
me: damn
Who'd have thought 😂
The edges some times shed light and need to be sanded down to even them out ,I learned the hard way.
Damn dude 😤😤😤🙁
Thanks for the tips, Been really trying to use my ears to help dial in the perfect sound on my kit, after watching your video I tuned my resonant heads and got the best tom sound Ive ever had. Made last nights show a blast!!
hopefully this guy goes down in some type of Drum hall of famer
I learned many years ago to start with the lowest drum first. This is for the purpose of ‘relationship’ between the toms. You may tune the smaller ones too high by the time you get to the floors, and then the whole set is too high. Start with the floors and go up.
I don't know why I'm watching this. I don't even own a drum set. :P 😂
:))
ME TOO WELCOME TO THE CLUB XDXDXD!!!!!
wouldn't be surprised if you had to be studying right now 😂😂😂
Jonathan Esparza LOL wow, racist much? It's cool it's cool..
Racist?! I thought I was making a relatable comment...
I also like turtles
Yeah you do
Normie.
Yes brother
No homo
Oh Turtles are delicious , creamy caramel and pecans covered in smooooooth milk chocolate ,mmmm ,I love Turtles. T.M.
I OCD over having the perfect drum sounds
Me too. There is no way to remove ALL overtones naturally, and even the slightest overtone that most people would thinks sounds fine I HAVE to tune it out.
@Imthedrummer seems legit
Don't we all
I OCD over the position of the heads.... I use clear Remo Pinstripes over clear Ambassadors..... The logos have to be in line with each other, as well as the drum logo.
Jonathan Friedman I do the same on head position
unf , maple drums I love the sound of maple , I have a birch kit from Mapex , something I'd like to say about the mix is that the overheads , or maybe one of the close mics has a really weird frec annoying my ears , this happens in the intro , look out for volumens ! and that's all :)
Good video.
When I change out my drum heads, I check the rim for burrs and clean the rim.
Before I put the new head on, I'll take an old candle or paraffin block and run it around the rim of the drum.
This helps lubricate the head so I don't have to seat the head.
Been playing since 1974, keep on rockin!
I think this type of video is amazing in how simple it’s presented. Thank you again Jared,
Can have your drums?
Wolf753 No thank
Nope
he may do a straight trade if you have a turtle?! :oP
Were you a quad player? The way you played all your toms at the end gave me that vibe.
emmittsmith482 XD
*tenor
Alec Ryan quad has four, tenor has 5-6 not much difference
@@kylechad529 well really quad is just a colloquial term at this point, nobody says sextet or quints that much, they're all just quads, or tenors
I learned A lot. As a guitarist, I followed same rules. Sound, feel, ssstttrrreeeaattcccchhh out. Flawless demo. No extra babble.
I think those 14" and 16" toms are hanging on a double tom stand. And they seem to be holding pretty well. I was looking into converting mine into floor toms but I think it's worth giving this a try seeing that it worked for you. Legs and brackets reduce the resonance quite a bit when compared to rack toms.
Always tune UP after down. Like on a guitar.. down, and then slightly up. That way the screw stays better in tension
Hey Jared, I just wanted to say that Drumeo is the best thing ever ! Thank you so mutch, you're an awesome guy and a great drummer :)
18:38 I wish I could say the same about my 16 inch floor tom
the same here bro ! :D
same!
same lmao
The high pitch overtones in my floor tom almost overpower the rumble, it's awful. I cam to this video for help but he literally just puts on his heads and it sounds amazing. He could take a shit on his floor tom and it would sound great
I always wipe down my rims while they are off to make sure I have all of the drum stick shavings off the rim. I tour and have been playing a lot of outdoor shows and festivals recently and this step helps with corrosion build up due to condensation from your drums going through all sorts of different climate changes. Love your content! 🤘🏻
thanks. you were good company while i changed my heads. Very useful channel. Im a 46 year old metal drummer and you speak with a good groove.
WOW! Those mics are awesome! You can barely hear all the bad tuning
Before you changed the bottom on the 12" I think it sounded great
Phat Poodles
Spot on....
I have no idea what my Tom's are supposed to sound like
Tom t same
Tom t what are their dimensions?
Sdvc49 I bought the carlsbro csd500 electric drum kit. For the tom 1 2 and 3. Could I use Tom 1 high for Tom 1, Tom 1 medium for Tom 2, and Tom 1 low for Tom 3. I know I sound stupid. Or does it have to be Tom 1 for Tom 1, Tom 2 for Tom 2, and Tom 3 for Tom 3. Thanks in advance
cracked black pepper and rock salt you shouldn’t be here if you have an electronic kit
Picture a butthole in your mind. That's how your toms should sound.
A simple straight forward technique, sounds good. Tuning the drum to its' natural tone is the best way. You still get the bounce, but not the overtones.
Old school tuning....almost exactly how I tune. And I love Evan's Coated G2s....and Jared can play any Evan's head he wants. Awesome. My challenge in tuning the toms....the 12" tom....my main Tom. It's an elusive sound to get sometimes. I drive my band leader crazy if I try to tune at all at the gig.
When I was little and first started drumming, I considered the drums tuned when all of the toms had different tones and werent dead/ wrinkled
Nick Swardson is a pretty sweet drummer, : ).
Okay, please ship it to my office in Canada. After I receive the testicle (must be the left) I'll ship the kit.
What size is the kick?
um........
This is officially the greatest comment of all time
it's in the mail
For Rock and Metal, I would recommend a thicker head. Try out the Evans EC2 SST heads, they're great!! If you want a really dead and thick sound, check out the Hydraulics. They have clear glass, blue, and black hydraulic heads, each giving a different sound. If you want a more open tone try out the G2 clears or coated. Keep in mind coated gives you a less open and less sustained tone, and darker toned. All Evans, and your kit will sound incredible!
You don't realise how much better my kit now sounds, insane.... Your a beast jared
haha, 'I like to line up the logo with the drum mount'. lol, I hear ya, my ocd brother!
no,no,no....the head logo MUST be at the 12 o'clock position on all drums for the feng shui to be correct.....otherwise ya gonna play like shit!!!😉😂
I enjoy the esthetics of the drum head logo over the badge of the drum.
12 o’clock in relationship to my playing position, anything else I couldn’t play.
12 o'clock from where I'm playing as well.
Thanks for the info, looking to but a drum set myself
Gotta say, as a music educator, this is an issue that continues to come up. I don't consider myself a "hater", but I do have an issue with you even saying that people hate when they suggest that you may not be teaching this in the most successful way. Again, you make a good point in that there isn't only one way to do it, but I do recommend tuning the lugs across from eachother for clarity and maintaining integrity of the heads as well. It just seems like you saying that they just sound amazing allows you do convey it isn't worth doing things thoroughly
dude I'm 19 and I've been watching your videos when I was about 15,you inspire me
You have to keep pushing those G2 Coated heads. I've been using them for a year now. In the last 40 years of playing I never found heads like these. Like you said they sound amazing as soon as you put them on. Great tones, nice and deep, they hold their sound. Everybody treat yourself and buy these heads today!
That 10" tom sounds so good because you seated it.... ;D
FUCK SEATING
very rude, both of you
ahahahha
Pepito, that's exactly what I thought as soon as he acted surprised how quickly the 10" drum tuned.
pepitochavez That profile picture brought a tear to my eye :')
"Step one- buy your dream kit..."
Yeah man u have done more than your fair share of helpful videos. you taught me alot and made me secure with the stuff I did know. I love the sound u go for, sounds great, and exactly what I try n get out of my set ,dry thud with warm, tone. A good teacher separates his personal habits and simplifys the subject matter, a fine job. I make all my wanna be drummer freinds watch your videos. anywhere from hitting the drum to tuning and muting. love it. Haha these vids, have saved me hours of explaining time.!! can't wait for another
I've never seen a drummer tighten the rim in sequence, I've always tightened in a criss-cross pattern. Great tuning though, the heads sound great. I just ordered the Evans 360 Oil Filled heads. They sound great. Love Evans heads.
"DRUM MINIONS.....ASSIST ME!!"
Congratulations on building such a wonderful and helpful business!
DW's are some of the easiest drums to tune, amazing quality drums
Seriously amazing thanks for upload this video
thanks for posting this video. I used to play years ago . and now I only have room for a stage set toms only set is Ludwig with 2 tom's 8x8 and 10x8 with heavy duty floor stand. your video has helped me to tune proper. I have evans heads as well.
Still nowhere near the OCD-perfect sound of Gavin Harrison's drums.
FrustratedTurtle
Gavin's been at it for decades longer than Jared.
"I LIKE TOITLES"
I got a new drum set recently I'm changing the top heads but if change the bottom heads does it matter?
sticks45 you shouldn't have to change the reso head, but you can if you want a different tone or muffling.
Reso heads need to be changed as they stretch. They do wear out.
I think this is as detailed as you can get in 22 minutes. Tuning may not be rocket science, but it is a process only learned with experience. Keep in mind, this method may not work for all, especially if you don't want stick marks on your reso heads (mallets work best). But, as you gain experience you change what doesn't work and keep or enhance what does. Many drummers seeing drum tuning with anything but a star pattern (going across and diagonal to the next lug) is anathema, so...take of it what you will.
A higher reso head vs. batter head helps with projection of the drum. It helps to project in the mix of musicians without adding more mic volume, per se. Having both reso and batter head equal in tune will increase the length of the fundamental tone of the drum, which may or may not be desirable, The batter head higher than the reso will enhance the attack or the drum. Generally, I operate in the higher reso than batter category as a rule. 26 years of this rule and my drums sound just fine, I've had no complaints.
I add another step, which would require the drums in your lap or on the floor. When I get them in playing range, I then turn each lug a half to a full turn, then push with my fist in the center of the head with a towel (so I don't leave a fist print on a clear head) to seat the head on the bearing edge. This seating will bring the pitch down some, so after seating I bring it back up to pitch. I find this gives me a more prolonged tone and even tone from the drums. NB we're not talking about snares here, but just for the record: DON'T seat snare-side heads with your fist!!! Bone-headed move on my part on that one. Luckily, it only happened that one time.
As for the messenger of said information, if we were to only accept information from famous professional drummers who've toured all their life or studio guys who've lived in the studio...there's no guarantee that these guys even had to deal with any of that stuff past a certain level. At the highest level, these famous professionals have people to tune and setup drums for them. So...were going to hold their information as gospel because they're famous or toured forever? It means I couldn't have any students get information from me because I'm not a household name. Guys like Jared with Drumeo and Cobus with DrumChannel are helping drummers all over the world with this information, and it's not like they're an island; there are how many people to support or contradict any information these guys are providing. So I say keep it up, it helps us all. I only wish that DrumChannel and Drumeo were available when I started playing back in the late 80's...drum info was hard to come by, and I tried to get my hands on everything I could!
Excellent , the tip on tuning the bottom head the same makes sense to me. Also my bass player mentioned how he other bands drummer uses the dial and felt maybe my old school use your ear and feel of the drum head response was outdated but I guess not. 👊
14 sounding much poor than others
I don't know why but i hate 13'' and 14'' toms. Maybe too close to the snare or something. Can't stand 13s or 14s.
I also have a hard time with my 14
Hi, to be honest, this is the first video from Jared what makes me question whether this was a good investment of 23 minutes of my life. I think in this time you could actually say much more about the options and other ways how to tune. Perhaps even different tunings for a few distinctive music genres. I know it is a matter of taste, but honestly - by saying "Get yourself a good drums and drumheads and it will be very easy to tune and get good sound" I am not so sure this will satisfy the most of the drummers watching this. For instance - I have always struggled to get nice sustain - not so long but kind of live. And there are a lot of ways to achieve this even without dampening - like tuning the reso head higher. Equal tune on both heads = the longest tone and that is not always desired. Otherwise I am very fond of what you are doing and I think it is very beneficial for the drumming community. Peace
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Yeah you do.
NuncFluens we all do
Only their first album
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Drumtune Pro App. Best $7 I ever spent.Easy to use& I have been playing drums for 35years. I do recommend newbies to learn by 👂.
been struggling with snare tuning for years cause I kinda suck and this just clicked for me. old batter head went from a $2.35 sounding head to a big $10 for sure. my band mates will be happy. cheers from YUMA Collective.
wow I want that tom sound. but my drumset is awful
what drum set you have?
Ludwig Accent Combo
Zack Mester Have you replaced the heads? Just keep trying. It takes time to get that perfect sound. With enough patience you can make a terrible drumset sound pro.
Haha I've gotten my set to sound good for how cheap it is but there is just simply no way I can match a custom dw kit like in this video
Zack Mester Ludwig accent series wasn't bad those are deep drums. I think one thing that they failed to discuss was the role of each drum head, reso and batter, and more or less that idea of a perfect step down much like when a guitar is tuned and the strings all have the same sequential drop thats what you can almost imagine for your drums. Keep your batter head as your pitch control and your reso head as the depth control also watch Bob Gatzens tuning method he goes more into the cross tuning and how the lugs affect one another
What about the unsung hero's called THE BOTTOM HEADS..
I have mapex drums so should I get Evan drum heads for my toms or is it ok??
It depends on your preference if you want the low thump sounds on your toms,use Remo pinestripe heads,the heads are 2ply 7 mil. I personally have pinestripe on my ludwig rocker elite and it sounds great
If you have questions rely to this account this is the account I use morw
Thanks gonna try find one on eBay or Amazon
It is personal preference. If you do choose to use Evans drum heads, then for the top heads, and for a dark tone, you would opt to try out the Black Chrome, EC2 Frosted or Clear, Hydraulics, or Onyx. For brighter tones, go for the G14, G12, or G1. The G2 heads are the mid range tone. Then again, that's based on personal preference, and also depends on what sound you're trying to achieve.
Wow things just got harder!
17:40 This almost sounds like the first four notes of “Mary Had A Little Lamb” over and over.
🎶“Mary had a..”, “Mary had a..”, “Mary had a..”🎶
I was just waiting for him to hit that left tom three more times at the end, and get that “little lamb”resolution to it! 😂
You're the best drum channel ever bro! Congratz from Brazil!
"relatively short"
some may have different definitions of short
I sat for ever trying to tune my drums and they sound like absolute crap, it's probably just because they're old af
rocketscrub try new head I like Evans for the level 360 and get a 2 ply head it will help a lot and moongel
I like turtles
on his shirt
You have no idea how much this helped me out. I've been tuning my drums forevever and I could not get the sound I was looking for whatsoever but after watching this, my toms sound like a drum tech of 50 years tuned them. You're methods are unbelievable. Thank you so much!!
I feel like I'm being taught by Napolean Dynamite! But hey! I LOVE it! What I can't yet understand (I'm a beginner) is how your beats are so fluid and effortless. Is it a "getting your hands in shape?" man that's awesome. My brother just gave me his old drummer's set of Yamaha's 7 pc set. and I'm really wanting to learn. As a 57 year old, maybe I'm too old, but I'm trying.
No such thing as too old mate, if you want to do it just go for it and rock on
sigh i cant tune my drums for shit, i take all the keys out and finger tighten them till i cant turn any more then turn each rod atleast once or twice each evenly and it still doesnt sound right to me but i dont want to spend like fifty fuckin dollars just to see if its right or not...
Do what he did and tune each lug. On both sides. batter and reso. I've never come across a kit that didn't sound good when tuned right. And like he said experiment. your top head might actually sound good but your reso is ruining shit.
first and foremost new double ply skins.if for some reason they don't sound good, then mute with duct tape or gel on the side that's really reslly very important especially with cheaper sets to get rid of that metallic sound, I start with my front high tom or low tom then make the rest relative to that w.e. u no best sound wise. your bottom heads are resonating the initial hit on the front head so if the drums arent great u dnt want them to resonate a whole lot, your going to be relying on the skin more than the wood on lower quality set, ive done and hears both the following, tune bottom head lower than front head. if u dnt like it try tuning it higher thsn the front. I'd say stay on the looser end then mute with tape honestly I've been playing cheap sets and making them sound good for years promise get a relatively nice pitch or stable tone out of each tom get them close to a drumset u can sound copy. then mute with a 3 to 5 inch piece of duct tape on the furthest side of the front skin. somthing that will be very sticky i no gorilla tape deff. works best u dnt want the pieces of tape to peel off in the corners then u will get a vibrating out of it. hold your warm hand on the tape for 30 sec or so let it bond b4 u ply
Grab a tune-bot:) Takes all the guess work out of the process.
from my ear the only one that sounded actually in tune was the 10 inch.... is that just me
Once the band kicks in............do ya think anyone's gonna notice?........It was close enough for jazz! lol!
+Stevie Ross yeah but I just watched a video called how to tune your toms and the toms were not in tune
+Plexus
well, if you say so.......who am I to contradict?
Plexus like he said, it may sound horrible to you, and that's ok. Tune your drums to what you like. If that's the way he likes it, then that is the way he is going to tune it.
It’s just you, they sound amazing. Awesome drums, awesome sound.
1 minute tuning, 21 min TALK!
I can't really make a guess without knowing what you are doing but in my experience when helping people get their drums tuned they are usually putting too much tension on the heads. He goes over his process pretty well here but speaks very little of the actual amount of tension he is using.
i like to make them finger tight then just go up in about quarter turns until the head just starts to resonate. then start making little 1/8th turns until i am happy.
I don’t know if he mentions this but a real easy way to tune your toms is to of course make sure that all of your tom’s tension screws are loose to the max then finger tighten them and place your palm in the middle of the drum head and gently push down in the drumhead until you see the creases in the drum head, proceed to tighten each tension screw until each crease straightens out and disappears. Do this for top and bottom heads and your tom’s will sound nice and tuned.
"why do your drums sound so good?" "i tune em" -ignores thousands of dollars in mics n software
but without tuning everything else is worth shit
can i have your t-shirt?
It doesn't start with the drums. It starts with the acoustics of your room. You can buy the most expensive, awesome cymbal and yet it will sound horrifying if your room is untreated or just basically not suited for loud environments.
Could you please elaborate on that? What makes a room more suitable for playing drums? I play in a spacious basement.
For how old this is Jared is playing DAMN well. with the restraint of only having toms he's creative, melodic, and musical:) Give the drummer some.
jared seems to be also such a great guy, not only a great instructor
First time on Drumeo after wondering how it's possible this channel gets so many views.. My thoughts: 1. In 28 years of playing the drumset, today I learned how NOT to tune a set of drums from this guy. 2. Start with the lowest drum in a kit if you wish to tune the entire kit. 3. Tapping on the edge of the drum head next to tension rod does nothing to tune the drum - STRETCH the head with your thumbs by pushing down on the head after you have even tension around the head. 4. No one strikes the resonant side with a stick to "tune" the drum. Don't be lazy Jared, it looks like investors have thrown money at your studio and you recieve free drums. So simply take the drum off of the mount, turn it upside down and tune it correctly (this side first) as the drum sits on the floor then lift it up to hear it's tone as you swipe it (I highly doubt this guy knows how to tune timpani drums) with your fingers then turn it over to hold the drum in the air as you play the batter side to check the entire drum.
It's almost as if this channel started out as a parody but so many inexperienced drummers piled on and now it's as if Jared thinks he can convey knowledge just by talking about it. Let's be honest, the mics made the rack toms tolerable then the first floor tom was just a mess and finally the last floor tom was just acceptable because of the way the other floor tom sounded so bad.
I am only leaving a lengthy (voice to text) post here because I think this guy is actually hurting drummers more than he is helping them. Along with the anomaly (also funded and mediocre at best of a drummer) Cobus, channels like this make younger players think that the drums are all about this sort of studio set up, the mics, the video editing, etc. When modern drummers grew up - those of us that actually play out - not stuck in fantasyland on Y/T (no one hires Cobus or Jared to play on their records so theres the answer to such novelty...) we just simply played in time to records and "wood-shedded" around those practice sessions teaching ourselves orginality and through trial and error - tuned our drums correctly. This guys is teaching the WRONG way to tune drums but because the culture of monetization of such videos based on high views (of uneducated people), the drum companies continue to give this guy drums, gear, etc as if he's earned it or is a valid educator or player to give such advice.
There is no substitute for experience and it is quite obvious this guy Jared has very little. What is the expression again: "Those who cannot do, teach." right? That's exactly what the world of online drumming has become. A world of dreamers instead of doers.
Just get on your kits everyone, tune to your ear and explore as deeply as you can if you cannot afford lessons. Coming to youtube to "learn" from people that have never toured or recored professionally is just a joke. I can't imagine all of the bad sounding drumkits out there in the world from the players that have watched this video and took the bells and whistles involved in this production as something to work from. Just a disservice to drummers all around. I have never heard a DW kit sound so bad in my life. Just terrible...
You can't cry "it's the wrong way" without explaining. The only concrete action that you criticized is hitting the reso head with a stick, which, honestly, is not a big deal on a tom-tom because they are similar thickness as the batters.
Most of your arguments about Jared are fallacious per Ad-Hominem (i.e. "Jared has nice mics and a studio, gets free drums, therefore his method of tuning is wrong).
Your only concrete explanation of the "right way" is to " just simply (play) in time to records and ("wood-shed") around those practice sessions teaching ourselves orginality and through trial and error - tuned our drums correctly." That is not a method and makes no sense. I *think* the point you are trying to make is that through those experiences you learned to tune your drums correctly, vis-a-vis through experience, but you didn't make that connection very well.
The take-aways I got from the video were:
1) Batter-and-reso in tune sounds good
2) An alternative is a reso tuned below batter
3) Tune to the intervals you want to hear (or hear in your head)
4) You won't learn drum tuning over-night
I'm not seeing what is "wrong" with his method.
More importantly, I read your whole comment because I WANT criticism of this video because I am looking for input about drum tuning, but you didn't mention any specific examples. Can you reply with some specifics about what you didn't like about his methods?
Jared and Cobus have actually recorded professionally. Jared has been hired many times previously to do studio work with other projects, but he doesn't talk about it much. Also, he has a whole set of engineers, Victor, and the "Monkeys", who control the audio and video. Jared has been teaching for many, many years, and it seems as if you think this is Jared in a room in his house mixing, recording, and editing all by himself. Drumeo is a real thing, with wonderful players. God, some of the "Veteran" drummers can be so ignorant and full of the old fashioned way, like some of the baby boomers.
Go check out his videos....... he is terrible . Dude plays mostly electronic drums and sounds horrible. Jared is 10 x the drummer.
go fuck urself m8
Anthem Atica look up rob brown on RUclipss method of drum tuning. Drums shouldn't be so complicated, in the end we're just hitting it with a stick
Please, just teach us and stop bragging about your drum set.
Lol
just let him explain that a drummer can't expect a super sound from a mediocre kit.
Ok
adamcrookedsmile Dave Lombardo of Slayer plays a cheap ass imperialstar. Bryan Hitt of REO Speedwagon plays a $899 Ludwig. The "you have to have expensive gear" thing is a myth.
Lee Schmitz Expensive gear being worth it only applies to cymbals, and very minorly to kits.
To be honest, I thought you had a near perfect sound on that 12" tom when you hit it at 9:35. I actually heard WAY more overtones after you tuned it up more. Maybe it just sounds different through the mics than it did from your angle and not through the mics (as can often be the case), but I probably would have left that drum alone and then tried to tune the other ones around it.
You are awesome dude. I'm learning a lot from your videos I'm 30 years old been playing drums for a while
Usely I prefer the drum head logo straight on the badge.your videos helped me a lot for turning tom’s.