Romans 1 (they know OF God but don’t honor Him AS God.) there’s other scripture that talks about people having the knowledge of Him but not a belief in who He is.
Awesome podcast.... It's pretty simple if you believe in Jesus Christ, and you believe that through his sacrifice and resurrection you are saved. Then you are proclaiming by faith. That you believe he lived, he died, and walked out of that tomb, took back the keys for death and the grave and he is God. The physical form of man and the third form of the Almighty. Plain and simple.
Thanks for having me on the show, Ruslan! It was a good time! I briefly referenced the weight you feel in some of the old hymns... Watching this back, here is one that just came to mind: Christ the Lord is risen today, Alleluia! Earth and heaven in chorus say, Alleluia! Raise your joys and triumphs high, Alleluia! Sing, ye heavens, and earth reply, Alleluia! Love's redeeming work is done, Alleluia! Fought the fight, the battle won, Alleluia! Death in vain forbids him rise, Alleluia! Christ has opened paradise, Alleluia! Lives again our glorious King, Alleluia! Where, O death, is now thy sting? Alleluia! Once he died our souls to save, Alleluia! Where's thy victory, boasting grave? Alleluia! Soar we now where Christ has led, Alleluia! Following our exalted Head, Alleluia! Made like him, like him we rise, Alleluia! Ours the cross, the grave, the skies, Alleluia! Hail the Lord of earth and heaven, Alleluia! Praise to thee by both be given, Alleluia! Thee we greet triumphant now, Alleluia! Hail the Resurrection, thou, Alleluia! King of glory, soul of bliss, Alleluia! Everlasting life is this, Alleluia! Thee to know, thy power to prove, Alleluia! Thus to sing, and thus to love, Alleluia!
@k0lpA Evidence is what leads to belief. You examine the evidence and come to a conclusion. It's not belief vs disbelief, it's one belief vs another. Don't confuse evidence with proof. We believe innumerable things about the world and reality without proof, because the evidence is so strong. The threshold is different for everyone, however.
@@fiftyten84 No, evidence leads to knowledge. Believing is when you don't have evidence but you are still convinced. Evidence is defined as : "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid." it is pretty much synonymous with proof.
Alex understood that when faced with a difficult question Peterson would be sure to deliberatly miss the point. Therefore Alex speeded his talking up to make sure he got his full question in, when he knew Peterson wanted to jump in and obscure that question. If the answer was still obscure then Alex would return to that same question. Also Alex only allowed Peterson about 50% of the conversation unlike his usual 70%. He was well prepared and knew what he was doing, it was a lesson for anyone talking with Peterson.
So true. I have had the same frustrations when listening to conversations with Peterson. So glad that Alex of all people was able to pull these answers out of him.
I was thinking the same while I was watching. Still, at a few points I was frustrated for Jordan interrupting Alex' great point. Also felt that some of the points flew over Jordan's head for some reason. I may be wrong, but it seemed like that to me.
@@GospodinStanoje no, i think JP is pretty deliberate in not answering certain questions the way people expect themto be answered because he knows that doing so would cause misunderstandings
Do you find it ironic that people believe Jesus as God through his words and works, but without him actually saying, " I am the one true God;" yet these people struggle identifying a fellow Christian unless he says the specific words that others want to hear
Unfortunately, I don't think Alex always understood his answers. He kept looking for simple, concrete answers, and I agree with and understand where Peterson is coming from on some parts of the Bible, especially the Old Testament. His answers made sense to me, and I thought O'Connor was trying to take Peterson to a simple explanation where that wasn't sufficient.
Alex is freaking great. I gotta say it. He is extremely gracious and understanding, a peacemaker if ever there was one, but incredibly sharp and still unafraid of confrontation. It feels as though he's taking JP through a therapy session and helping him unravel his confusion on this complex topic in a strange way.
"the most dejected, reluctant convert in all of England . . . drug into the kingdom kicking, struggling, resentful, and darting his eyes in every direction for a chance of escape.” - C.S Lewis. Jordan Peterson is this generations C.S Lewis.
@@SlumberingWolf ... what is more shameful is hoodwinking and even more shameful is falling for the hoodwinking and even more shameful is thinking that someone's "journey" of hoodwinking does not mean it is hoodwinking because it is a "journey".... hahahaha
I watch both of y’all’s channels and I love both your content so it’s so cool when you see a Collab like this,excited to watch! God bless you guys and all that are watching.🙏🙌✝️
@@ADxtraIsHere "how so"... (1) what does a god need with humans genuflecting and bowing? ... (2) this bowing and genuflecting is what DICTATORS and despots demand from their servile UNDERLINGS.... (3) do you make your children bow and genuflect?? Do you expect people who LOVE you and whom YOU love to do this???
@@suelingsusu1339 1, God doesn't need us. AT ALL. But He chooses to be in relationship with Him 2. God is not a man so He can't be a dictator. 3. What? He expresses love and we express it back. By no means is He forcing us to do anything. Jesus is Lord
@@ADxtraIsHere "He expresses love and we express it back"... so bowing and bending knees is expressing love?? Do you let your children do that for you???
Jesus did not need the stone rolled away to leave the tomb, that was for us. He instantly showed up in a room, with locked doors, as if he walked through the wall. So I am going to say, no you might not have seen anyone walk out of the tomb…it was already empty when the stone was rolled away!
Fair point about most post-Resurrection appearances, BUT the stone was rolled over the lion's den in Daniel 6 - before the faithful Israelite from the line of David was raised up in the morning by the king. Scripture had to be fulfilled.
“I suspect yes” is exactly the answer of any believing Christian. We can’t ever know for sure because it’s an impossible experiment to execute, but we all choose to believe based on our trust in God.
Christ was a Spirit by that point, so it would've been a fool's errand to try and capture it with a camera. No human would've been able to see Him, even if He had waltzed out of the tomb. Christ's followers were only able to see Him with their own eyes after His resurrection because He wanted to let them know how foolish they were for forgetting all of His prophecies to them about how He would be crucified and resurrected after 3 days.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Actually he was seen at various places by five hundred plus witness's , I say that so that its apparent that he was a lot more on display then the way of the modern world would view a "spirit" , If anything he was far more real and available , then he ascended to heaven in front of what sounds like random people
Imagine hearing someone say that they do not know beyond a shadow of a doubt, but that they have faith in what Jesus did for us, and somehow not understanding that’s EXACTLY what it means to have faith. If you want to act like you are so certain of everything, you don’t actually know what faith is; you’re just running around proclaiming how pious you are. Sad to see so many Christian’s fall into this.
This makes no sense. They are trying to discern his thoughts on the bodily resurrection. As they quoted in this video, if Christ is not risen then our faith is in vain. It’s incoherent to say you have faith in what Christ did for us but not believe in the bodily resurrection and that Jesus is God in the flesh who fulfilled the law for us. Believing in Him in a hypothetical sense as a mythical figure or archetype is not remotely the same thing nor is it “EXACTLY what it means to have faith”. You’re acting as if JP has said “I believe in the resurrection and that Christ has atoned for humanity’s sins but I cannot be 100% sure”. He’s never said anything like that, the closest he’s gotten is in this video. Your critique of these guys here is absurd.
@@Jm20375 do you know the difference between a factual claim and a truth claim? Because your comment seems to suggest you don’t, and if you watch the podcast JP did with Alex O’Conner, you have found that they explained this in so much detail that even Alex understood.
@@joshmurphy6227 Literally nothing that I just said is refuted in any way by your last comment. Feel free to make an actual argument and show me where something specific that I said is false. Good luck with that.
Did I call it or did I call it? XD but you are right on Ruslan, my sanctification from the Spirit took years, even after my miraculous heart change. Praying that is the case for JBP.
In my opinion JP's greatest contribution is dispelling the claim by prominent atheists that the Bible is full of nonsensical fairy tales, a lie that Christians have been ill prepared to refute, at least intellectually. Becoming a Christian would make JP neither a theologian nor a Christian apologist. Let him do what he does best for an audience that needs what he can give. If he became Christian I would be happy for him but would not be looking to him for deep theological or spiritual insights. Maybe one day.
He helped me get one foot into the door of Christianity and the Holy Spirit took me the rest of the way. Now I have a relationship with Jesus. I pray he will experience that too.
I feel like JP met intellectuals out in the deep waters of atheism, pulled them in into the shallow waters of agnosticism, and has dragged them to the solid shore of belief.
@@bamct To be honest , having listened to JP for quite a while now and acknowledging he is a very interesting and intelligent individual...............I think he would be a much more competent psychologist than a converter of atheists !
Or… He isn’t navigating his faith exactly like others navigate theirs. Again, what does faith look like? Jesus had moments of doubt, right? Jesus questioned His Father regarding His path.
@@blissedher I was with you until I heard you say Jesus had doubts lmao. I've only ever heard that from the Rolling Stones' "sympathy for the devil". I've never come across anything like that in the Bible. He's admitted to a lot of things, like pain, even arguably fear while on the cross while he was asking his father if there was any other way, but doubts? Naaaaw that's the wrong Jesus.
Jordan is taking his time because he is an intellectual and analyzes everything. God doesn't always work in the ways we want him to. I'd say look, listen and enjoy seeing a man grow and hopefully we get to see his conversion to Christ. Period.
A person who tries to analyze the Bible from a psychological or philosophical approach is not anywhere close to God. As Christ said in Matthew, the Father does not reveal truth to the ppl who rely on their own intellect. If that's how God worked, He would've revealed truths to the Pharisees, the scribes, and other experts in Christ's day. But He didn't, didn't He? He gave those truths to a carpenter, fishermen, and other ppl who were low on society's totem pole.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Yeah that's a fallacy, thinking that God works one way only. Paul was a pharisee my friend and Luke was a physician, so yes God did reach intellectuals. Your argument falls flat on it's face.
@@joselegaspi2549 agree I had a hard time coming to faith just by reading the bible, I needed to be convinced rationally first then it opened the possibility for me to accept it. God has very different ways of reaching people.
*God doesn't always work in the ways we want him to.* No, it is not God not working in ways we want him to. It is Jordan Peterson cultivating obfuscatory word salad instead of answering the question.
I think people try to prove Jesus intellectually and historically too much, instead of encouraging people to seek Him spiritually through diligent prayer, repentance and fasting.
I think people try to prove the flying spaghetti monster intellectually and historically too much, instead of encouraging people to seek It spiritually through diligent prayer, repentance and fasting.
i love the philosophical conversations on brandon's channel. questions and conversations that stimulate my brain and just get me thinking deeper rather than getting caught up in the daily routine. absolutely love the content 👌🏼
He's hesitant because he knows the impact it will have on his life when he commits to the belief that Christ rose from the dead. He understands it deeper than many (most?) professing Christians. The world is already beating on him for asking hard questions, what's it going to do when he declares open war on it and starts taking his orders directly from Christ? We all need to be praying for Jordan Peterson.
I think one needs to "confess with his mouth" the Lord Jesus. All of us, rich, poor, famous, little known, everyone who has become a follower of Christ should make it known. It's our "reasonable service" to align ourselves with the King of the Universe, no matter what may befall us.
Or maybe he just doesn't believe that happened. I've never actually heard him say he believed God is real I've just heard him say he lives as if God is real.
I think like Nicodemus, JP can see the Truth but actually totally acknowledging it with 100% clarity would change his life forever and is he ready for that? He is also so intellectual and as we know God confounds the 'wise' with simplicity! The gospel is so straightforward, you have to have the faith of a child to accept it. Those that seek the Truth will find it. JP is certainly seeking..... X And hopefully Alex will also look at the facts and acknowledge the Truth. Lord bless him too.
Agreed. Peterson is never flippant about the weight of the resurrection. He actually understands the implications of belief. As the hymn says, Jesus's sacrifice "demands my soul, my life, my all."
Thanks for sharing and commenting on this part of the conversation between Jordan Peterson and Alex O'Conner! If I may share my personal (and humble) opinion: I think that Peterson is still wrestling with his doubts about the reliability of the Gospel accounts, meaning, about how literally we can and should take them. And I admit that, right now, I’m in a very similar position… God bless you both! Amen.
You see Jordan is brilliant, I don’t mean in his intellect but his honesty. He’s being really honest about his wrestling with GOD. And that itself is really valuable to others who are doing the same. Trying to stumble their way into the truth that is Christ. Much of the world is doing the same and I believe his words help shine a light on them. Letting them know, even a man as knowledgeable and insightful on the Bible is still a human trying to figure out his way home with no specific directions.
I think he’s being very careful with his words. Not completely sure why, but when he answered Alex’s question it sounded like he was about to say yes, but changed it. It sounded to me like he said “I would say… suspect yes”.
As a thinker, Jordan Peterson’s sharing of his thoughts feels practical in a way that no other thinker of this time. I can see with my own eyes the sincerely process of wrestling with doubt and despite the limitations of human facilities act towards one’s best and ongoing understanding of the highest good. All this occurs in faith that the highest good aligns with, leads to, serves and/or is God.
Look from watching pints with Aquinas it is very clear he is on the path towards God. Just because the yes is not a simple yes does not mean anything when you look at his actions that are overall pro Christian. So what if he wrestles with the faith? Are we any better? Because I been catholic for almost 8 years and God always surprise me. He engages me he calls to me. And I’m still confused to why even though my mind knows why. My heart is still learning. So give the guy a breath.
" So what if he wrestles with the faith? Are we any better?" There can't be a Christian that has ever walked the earth that has never had some doubts so you make a very good point. However I do think "wrestling with God" is ambiguous enough to impart any meaning one cares to on it. Im not saying the following is true but maybe Peterson (being an extremely thoughtful person) is very comfortable in his own mind that his idea of god will never be the same as the Christian (Nicene Creed) idea of God. Not unless there is a broadening of what it means to be a Christian. I think it naive to think that Peterson is necessarily pro Christian simply because he talks scripture. My response is slightly cinical but I don't consider that unfair when talking about Peterson after all in this podcast they said that Peterson could be turning some Christians agnostic.
@@johnwheeler3071 you do not think its pro christian? peterson singlehandedly made me fundamentally question my atheist beliefs at the core. He is singlehandedly the reason I asked my mother for a bible. I didnt finish it. I honestly only started and am procrastinating on it. But every day that man walks the earth and talks about this subject, it reminds me to not forget about it. to make time for it. and to dont discard the thought no matter what else in life comes up I wouldnt call myself a christian. But I am basically what your side wants to achieve. I am already talking about christianity and defending it in front of my atheistic gf, my atheistic friends and even put myself in a bad light for it. simply by teachings of jordan peterson for the most part. That man knows how to defend christianity. So. Take it for whatever it is worth. I would say though that this is not in the slightest insignificant change. in my mind I now see atheists in a similar defensive position as christians. if not more. that doesnt necessarily make me christian. but it takes away so much influence from atheists beliefs and that has also very clear political direct implications
@@johnwheeler3071 we can’t control people and direct them to what we want from them. Speaking from experience. All we can do is pray, sacrifice and be good and genuine and love our neighbor as Christ loves him. Because at the end of the day it is Christ alone who saves and keeps us alive. When you learn to let God be God. He will do the unimaginable. It’s ok to be cinical. But always look at the context. We don’t get to choose who enters the faith. But it’s easy to lose our way. So keep your gaze on God. For he is a good Father. Jordan is practically a baby in the faith. A baby has to learn to crawl before he can stand. To try and fail to walk. Before it can run.
I get the urge to understand Jordan Peterson's worldview, but I think the approach you guys have is off. Jordan is being very cautious because he doesn't want to slip into being a symbol for a specific denominations' worldview. Because if he does that, it cannot unify Christianity. You two are wanting him to fit within your definition or someone else's definition so that he is categorized. But that is what he's fighting against - the categorization shouldn't be paramount!! It's walking with Christ that should be paramount
This doesn't have to do with any particular denomination. It's the gospel as preached in scripture. Any denomination would have to agree jesus christ resurrected
Yeah that is his idea, and he personally has said as much. God ask us to be bold in our faith. So had jordan not believed that might be a noble endeavor. If he does believe and does this it is lying. Avoiding the truth to bring people together never works.
@@alankish4098 Have you read his book "Maps of Meaning"? I worried he was gnostic as well, but after reading "MoM" I don't believe he has gnostic views. Most gnostic believe Christianity is part of a greater understanding, but It seems Jordan has a revearsed version of that where he holds Christianity at the pinnical, where everything else is a lesser version of Christianity. Jordan is approaching Christianity from a psychological-scientific angle. He is very influenced by Carl Jung.
It sounds like JP is wrestling with the intellectual/emotional aspects of faith. Faith isn’t just one or the other, faith is both of the aspects combined.
I appreciate Alex as an Atheist/Agnostic having these conversations in this manner. He seems to be genuinely seeking like Joe Rogan. Whereas others in his position have their feet planted in the ground and have their mind made up. We need more conversations like this.
Mark 12:59 JP is saying he believes in the historical event and the witness accounts of the resurrection but he doesn’t know what that “means” exactly. I think that’s actually a very humble response at this point.
I feel so bad for smart people. It's easy being simple and just loving and knowing. To not always depend on yourself and know that there is a loving force following you that knows you and watches out for you and then to be taught who that is growing up and just knowing, is such a blessing. Thank you, Jesus, for faithful parents . Psalms 2:12 "Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, When his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."
I’ve struggled with over intellectually thinking about things …it’s actually why I chose to do drugs as a child…sad…I now know Christ through faith as well as knowing in all my heart and mind…over whelming proof…even more miraculous experiences…once you are literally saved from the clutches of hell by Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior there is no doubt and them upon knowing The Holy Spirit….God gives us wisdom instead of only having knowledge…there’s no more doubt…I thank God for that
I haven't read the bible completely...I believe in God and Christ for what christ has done in my life so far....I have been spared from death more than 10 times and more, where if things had been different I should be dead by now, my child was born because I asked God and said it was his decision, its up to him if our journey is already written and if we had another child it was up to him the week after we had a child on the way. There was only a 1% chance of having a child at that moment, which we are blessed for. Christ is the way....he has saved me for something great and I will rest when the work is done.
@@John-i2i6b do you have to pray in a specific way and do you somehow know what action is part of "will of the Father" for you to take? Does God talk with you like some preachers claim, or is it just a "feeling"?
Minute 14:30, such a great question!...honestly, this is something that Christians still wrestle with, I think, because it plants the most solid of flags in the most solid of sands. It comes down to TRUTH and belief in the 1 and only true God
Mb Jordan is jus so smart, that his brain thinks so deep , that this is how he expresses this question, he is definitely on a whole other level .. 🤗♥️🙏🏽
Hedging the way Peterson always does is a far cry from confessing with his mouth the Lord Jesus and believing in his heart that God has raised Him from the dead.
Strangely enough I think I understand when he says he believes the resurrection accounts but doesn’t understand it. He tends to examine most things very comprehensively, he tends to express his thoughts on subject in a manner that is richly textured and he doesn’t feel that his grasp of the topic isn’t where he would prefer.
The need to fully understand is a fools errand, this is why Jordan is always running on a mental treadmill. The goal is a reduction in uncertainty while taking steps forward in faith. Not the elimination of uncertainty and walking in circles of endless skepticism.
What modern "Christian" theology fails to grasp is that there is way more to truth and reality and scripture than just the first level that they focus on. This is where the confusion comes from when they listen to someone outside of their religious tradition, such as Jordan Peterson.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Dr. Peterson is an extremely intelligent, reserved, defensive, baby Christian. When Christ got me, I was still sceptical of some biblical truths. I didn't believe nor want Jesus to return. Thought it was nuts to even consider until God led me to the radiology wing of CHOP. Looking at a room full of lifeless children, I was crying begging for Christ to return. That was about 11 years ago. Not sceptical anymore. Lets give Dr. Peterson some time and grace to build confidence in the hard things of the Bible because sometimes as seasoned Christians I think we forget when we first believed. It's amazing watching such a confident man being grafted by the Holy Spirit. It's something to start a new life. 👍🏻😁🙏🏻
The last couple of times I’ve seen you cover Peterson, it feels like he knows once he professes these things publicly, that he’ll be held to the way of life that being a Christian calls us to be; and he doesn’t want that standard for his life. Like he’s aware of the higher standard that the Bible says we’re supposed to live, and the last video I watched of you talking about his stance, he was very vocal on knowing what the Bible says the Christian life is supposed to be like.
JP has helped me a lot in understanding and trusting even more in the Bible. I understood early on that he wasn't a Christian and I honestly didn't think it was my right to expect him to be. Sometimes we want to give a title to people and those people don't want that title, not because it is wrong, but that it comes with responsibility and judgement that they aren't ready to deal with.
Not knowing what to do once you get past, the resurrection is a very honest admission. I think many believers, including myself once you arrive at saving Grace, we still have a long journey to go. I feel as if salvation is the first door of many that we will open and close behind us.
You guys did a real nice job of landing the high-flying debate between Peterson and O’Conner. As a Catholic, I wonder why you never mention the Shroud of Turín as the most astonishing evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ, it’s much more awesome than a camcorder.
So the question then becomes, is salvation something you come to through faith produced within you or is salvation something that happens to you and is only initiated by God?
Everything is initiated by God. If he didn’t want to be known we would be robots. He has told us that He is salvation. We can choose to accept. Faith would be impossible if God did not make himself known. At least that’s my understanding.
God is great. He used this interview, with this guest knowing Alex would ask the question about Jesus' resurrection only for him to admit "yes". Thus awakening Jordans mind and heart to our Lord Jesus Christ. Sometimes we must travel through storms to appreciate calm waters. God is great.
Jordan speaks clearly later in the interview of Theosis , references Jonathan Pageau, also constantly wrestling the Augustinian idea of original sin , likening more to Eastern Orthodoxy idea of original sin - which is fine imo
All prejudice aside, I pray God fills Dr. JP with his spirit of truth by his faith in Jesus Christ. So that he may come to an accurate understanding of God and of what all the accounts of Jesus mean 😊
Ruslan, nice job! I ❤️ Daily Dose of Wisdom! It was great to see Brandon on, especially after you had that arrogant mega pastor on last week. He could use a dose of wisdom and an extra XL side of humility. This one was great 👍👍
The question of would we see the stone rolled away and Jesus walk out of the tomb is not the question. The answer to that is NO. The point of the stone being rolled away was so they would see Jesus was not there ... NOT ... for Him to get out. That's the point of the stone being rolled away.
Hey Ruslan KD Team. I enjoy your content. When you were discussing about Cosmic Skeptics response or Alex O'Connor on his gnostic response: "Its not about what he did, but what he said". This statement by itself would mean that when we look at what Jesus said, then we would see how Jesus claimed himself to be God multiple times. Therefore, we should look more at what he said. Thank you so much for what you all do. Take care. God bless.
My humble take is it is a comparison to the rich young ruler. I’ve heard Peterson speak on the significance or the importance of the “commitment” in following Jesus. We can understand and/or believe but are we “willing” to allow him to be not just our savior, bout also our Lord
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Suspect yes = I have no way to actually know, but I believe He literally, physically walked out of the tomb.
Romans 1 (they know OF God but don’t honor Him AS God.) there’s other scripture that talks about people having the knowledge of Him but not a belief in who He is.
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Awesome podcast.... It's pretty simple if you believe in Jesus Christ, and you believe that through his sacrifice and resurrection you are saved. Then you are proclaiming by faith. That you believe he lived, he died, and walked out of that tomb, took back the keys for death and the grave and he is God. The physical form of man and the third form of the Almighty. Plain and simple.
@@tenpennygrim5884 “Suspect, yes” = all things considered, if an atheist were to think things through, that yes Jesus came and he rose
Thanks for having me on the show, Ruslan! It was a good time!
I briefly referenced the weight you feel in some of the old hymns...
Watching this back, here is one that just came to mind:
Christ the Lord is risen today, Alleluia!
Earth and heaven in chorus say, Alleluia!
Raise your joys and triumphs high, Alleluia!
Sing, ye heavens, and earth reply, Alleluia!
Love's redeeming work is done, Alleluia!
Fought the fight, the battle won, Alleluia!
Death in vain forbids him rise, Alleluia!
Christ has opened paradise, Alleluia!
Lives again our glorious King, Alleluia!
Where, O death, is now thy sting? Alleluia!
Once he died our souls to save, Alleluia!
Where's thy victory, boasting grave? Alleluia!
Soar we now where Christ has led, Alleluia!
Following our exalted Head, Alleluia!
Made like him, like him we rise, Alleluia!
Ours the cross, the grave, the skies, Alleluia!
Hail the Lord of earth and heaven, Alleluia!
Praise to thee by both be given, Alleluia!
Thee we greet triumphant now, Alleluia!
Hail the Resurrection, thou, Alleluia!
King of glory, soul of bliss, Alleluia!
Everlasting life is this, Alleluia!
Thee to know, thy power to prove, Alleluia!
Thus to sing, and thus to love, Alleluia!
Amen!🙏✝️❤️
Hype for you guys on this crossover, praise god 🎉
Well said, brother. Amen. Such beautiful, theologically rich lyrics.
You 2 should collaborate where you exchange thoughts, ideas and impressions more often! Truly a great duo!
Whoa...Ruslan, Daily Dose and Nick Jones are from SoCal along with Sean McDowell... God has California and the world in His hands 😃🙏🏿🙏🏻🙏🙏🏽
Both jordan peterson and alex o'connor are on a beautiful Journey for truth that I can admire greatly. We have to pray for both of them.
To know truth you need evidence otherwise it's just a belief
@@k0lpAthere is an abundance of evidence, to find it you must genuinely look for it and not dismiss everything
Too bad Ruslan will duck the smoke to debate Alex or any we'll respected athiest
@k0lpA Evidence is what leads to belief. You examine the evidence and come to a conclusion. It's not belief vs disbelief, it's one belief vs another. Don't confuse evidence with proof. We believe innumerable things about the world and reality without proof, because the evidence is so strong. The threshold is different for everyone, however.
@@fiftyten84 No, evidence leads to knowledge. Believing is when you don't have evidence but you are still convinced.
Evidence is defined as : "the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid." it is pretty much synonymous with proof.
"Does he walk out of the tomb?"
"I would suspect yes."
Definitely not what I expected.
But then he says he does not know what that means... typical doublespeak
@@suelingsusu1339 Or maybe he doesn't know what that means.
@@suelingsusu1339that he said it at all is more than i expected. Being unsure of its meaning is 💯 expected in light of his actual beliefs.
@@kharilane1340 ... if that is the case then he is not intelligent at all.
Not "he", "A man."
Alex understood that when faced with a difficult question Peterson would be sure to deliberatly miss the point. Therefore Alex speeded his talking up to make sure he got his full question in, when he knew Peterson wanted to jump in and obscure that question. If the answer was still obscure then Alex would return to that same question. Also Alex only allowed Peterson about 50% of the conversation unlike his usual 70%. He was well prepared and knew what he was doing, it was a lesson for anyone talking with Peterson.
Interesting insight there
So true. I have had the same frustrations when listening to conversations with Peterson. So glad that Alex of all people was able to pull these answers out of him.
Agree 💯
I was thinking the same while I was watching. Still, at a few points I was frustrated for Jordan interrupting Alex' great point.
Also felt that some of the points flew over Jordan's head for some reason. I may be wrong, but it seemed like that to me.
@@GospodinStanoje no, i think JP is pretty deliberate in not answering certain questions the way people expect themto be answered because he knows that doing so would cause misunderstandings
Been praying for Jordan for many years. In tears hearing this from him. Praise God
Big kudos to Alex for pinning down on specifics of Jordans beliefs
Do you find it ironic that people believe Jesus as God through his words and works, but without him actually saying, " I am the one true God;" yet these people struggle identifying a fellow Christian unless he says the specific words that others want to hear
@@SINQUEFIELD83 Jesus says " I and the Father are one" as well as " I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life".
Unfortunately, I don't think Alex always understood his answers. He kept looking for simple, concrete answers, and I agree with and understand where Peterson is coming from on some parts of the Bible, especially the Old Testament. His answers made sense to me, and I thought O'Connor was trying to take Peterson to a simple explanation where that wasn't sufficient.
Love the collab, you both have been so helpful in my journey 🙏 Appreciate you
YOOO MIKE KORZEMBA! 😯 love your vids bro
Alex is freaking great. I gotta say it. He is extremely gracious and understanding, a peacemaker if ever there was one, but incredibly sharp and still unafraid of confrontation. It feels as though he's taking JP through a therapy session and helping him unravel his confusion on this complex topic in a strange way.
This is so awesome to have the two of you together!! Love you both and learn so much from you both!! Thank you for your service
Thank you so much!!
What a treat to have you both together !!!
"the most dejected, reluctant convert in all of England . . . drug into the kingdom kicking, struggling, resentful, and darting his eyes in every direction for a chance of escape.” - C.S Lewis.
Jordan Peterson is this generations C.S Lewis.
C.S. Lewis declared he is a christian without any obfuscation or dissimulation... Jordan does not and still is trying to hoodwink.
In God's time, not ours.
@@suelingsusu1339Calling someones journey a mere hoodwink is so disrespectful that you should be ashamed of yourself.
@@SlumberingWolf ... what is more shameful is hoodwinking and even more shameful is falling for the hoodwinking and even more shameful is thinking that someone's "journey" of hoodwinking does not mean it is hoodwinking because it is a "journey".... hahahaha
Relax, Lewis was I believe an intellectual of higher caliber. Peterson is a beast still but Lewis was something else.
I watch both of y’all’s channels and I love both your content so it’s so cool when you see a Collab like this,excited to watch! God bless you guys and all that are watching.🙏🙌✝️
I love the Daily Dose of Wisdom, this was an awesome collaboration!
He is Risen! Every knee will bow, and every tongue will confess: Jesus is Lord!
Isn't this kind of bowing and genuflecting what HUMAN dictators like to see their subjects doing... and not at all worthy of a supposed god of love?
@@suelingsusu1339 How so?
@@ADxtraIsHere "how so"... (1) what does a god need with humans genuflecting and bowing? ... (2) this bowing and genuflecting is what DICTATORS and despots demand from their servile UNDERLINGS.... (3) do you make your children bow and genuflect?? Do you expect people who LOVE you and whom YOU love to do this???
@@suelingsusu1339 1, God doesn't need us. AT ALL. But He chooses to be in relationship with Him 2. God is not a man so He can't be a dictator. 3. What? He expresses love and we express it back. By no means is He forcing us to do anything. Jesus is Lord
@@ADxtraIsHere "He expresses love and we express it back"... so bowing and bending knees is expressing love?? Do you let your children do that for you???
Jesus did not need the stone rolled away to leave the tomb, that was for us. He instantly showed up in a room, with locked doors, as if he walked through the wall. So I am going to say, no you might not have seen anyone walk out of the tomb…it was already empty when the stone was rolled away!
Fair point about most post-Resurrection appearances, BUT the stone was rolled over the lion's den in Daniel 6 - before the faithful Israelite from the line of David was raised up in the morning by the king. Scripture had to be fulfilled.
This is the right interpretation.
“I suspect yes” is exactly the answer of any believing Christian. We can’t ever know for sure because it’s an impossible experiment to execute, but we all choose to believe based on our trust in God.
Christ was a Spirit by that point, so it would've been a fool's errand to try and capture it with a camera. No human would've been able to see Him, even if He had waltzed out of the tomb. Christ's followers were only able to see Him with their own eyes after His resurrection because He wanted to let them know how foolish they were for forgetting all of His prophecies to them about how He would be crucified and resurrected after 3 days.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Actually he was seen at various places by five hundred plus witness's , I say that so that its apparent that he was a lot more on display then the way of the modern world would view a "spirit" , If anything he was far more real and available , then he ascended to heaven in front of what sounds like random people
Exactly. Only an arrogant/simplistic person would presume to have any certainty on this matter.
Imagine hearing someone say that they do not know beyond a shadow of a doubt, but that they have faith in what Jesus did for us, and somehow not understanding that’s EXACTLY what it means to have faith. If you want to act like you are so certain of everything, you don’t actually know what faith is; you’re just running around proclaiming how pious you are. Sad to see so many Christian’s fall into this.
This makes no sense. They are trying to discern his thoughts on the bodily resurrection. As they quoted in this video, if Christ is not risen then our faith is in vain. It’s incoherent to say you have faith in what Christ did for us but not believe in the bodily resurrection and that Jesus is God in the flesh who fulfilled the law for us. Believing in Him in a hypothetical sense as a mythical figure or archetype is not remotely the same thing nor is it “EXACTLY what it means to have faith”. You’re acting as if JP has said “I believe in the resurrection and that Christ has atoned for humanity’s sins but I cannot be 100% sure”. He’s never said anything like that, the closest he’s gotten is in this video. Your critique of these guys here is absurd.
@@Jm20375 do you know the difference between a factual claim and a truth claim? Because your comment seems to suggest you don’t, and if you watch the podcast JP did with Alex O’Conner, you have found that they explained this in so much detail that even Alex understood.
@@joshmurphy6227 Literally nothing that I just said is refuted in any way by your last comment. Feel free to make an actual argument and show me where something specific that I said is false. Good luck with that.
@@Jm20375 my argument is literally what Peterson explained like 100 times
Great crossover, love what you guys bring to the conversations happening on all these topics!
Did I call it or did I call it? XD but you are right on Ruslan, my sanctification from the Spirit took years, even after my miraculous heart change. Praying that is the case for JBP.
In my opinion JP's greatest contribution is dispelling the claim by prominent atheists that the Bible is full of nonsensical fairy tales, a lie that Christians have been ill prepared to refute, at least intellectually. Becoming a Christian would make JP neither a theologian nor a Christian apologist. Let him do what he does best for an audience that needs what he can give. If he became Christian I would be happy for him but would not be looking to him for deep theological or spiritual insights. Maybe one day.
He helped me get one foot into the door of Christianity and the Holy Spirit took me the rest of the way. Now I have a relationship with Jesus. I pray he will experience that too.
@@Tomonaroma1221 Be blessed.
Likewise. Hearing him simply call the Bible a "precondition for truth" blew my mind and began my return to the church.
@@Dan-km8zy Welcome back.
It is full of non sensical fairy tales, and many many many contradictions. It even states that the sun was “created” after earth.
To get Alex on the channel, that would be quite cool!
I feel like JP met intellectuals out in the deep waters of atheism, pulled them in into the shallow waters of agnosticism, and has dragged them to the solid shore of belief.
Brilliant commentary on JP and his journey.
What particular intellectuals are you referring to ?
@@fentonpeter1582 I know a few who were atheists and after listening to him have become Christian’s after a few years
@@bamct To be honest , having listened to JP for quite a while now and acknowledging he is a very interesting and intelligent individual...............I think he would be a much more competent psychologist than a converter of atheists !
Who? @@bamct
I love how we are so fascinated by the Christian witness of Jordan Peterson who probably isn't even Christian. He is our secular hero!
Agreed. Don't think Dr. P. is a Christian yet, though many folks are jumping the gun and assuming that he is already a Christian
Yet. He isnt a Christian yet
Or…
He isn’t navigating his faith exactly like others navigate theirs. Again, what does faith look like?
Jesus had moments of doubt, right?
Jesus questioned His Father regarding His path.
@@blissedher Jesus never had doubts.
@@blissedher I was with you until I heard you say Jesus had doubts lmao. I've only ever heard that from the Rolling Stones' "sympathy for the devil". I've never come across anything like that in the Bible. He's admitted to a lot of things, like pain, even arguably fear while on the cross while he was asking his father if there was any other way, but doubts? Naaaaw that's the wrong Jesus.
Jordan is taking his time because he is an intellectual and analyzes everything. God doesn't always work in the ways we want him to. I'd say look, listen and enjoy seeing a man grow and hopefully we get to see his conversion to Christ. Period.
A person who tries to analyze the Bible from a psychological or philosophical approach is not anywhere close to God. As Christ said in Matthew, the Father does not reveal truth to the ppl who rely on their own intellect. If that's how God worked, He would've revealed truths to the Pharisees, the scribes, and other experts in Christ's day. But He didn't, didn't He? He gave those truths to a carpenter, fishermen, and other ppl who were low on society's totem pole.
@@theeternalsbeliever1779 Yeah that's a fallacy, thinking that God works one way only. Paul was a pharisee my friend and Luke was a physician, so yes God did reach intellectuals. Your argument falls flat on it's face.
@@joselegaspi2549 agree I had a hard time coming to faith just by reading the bible, I needed to be convinced rationally first then it opened the possibility for me to accept it. God has very different ways of reaching people.
Amen.
*God doesn't always work in the ways we want him to.*
No, it is not God not working in ways we want him to. It is Jordan Peterson cultivating obfuscatory word salad instead of answering the question.
I think people try to prove Jesus intellectually and historically too much, instead of encouraging people to seek Him spiritually through diligent prayer, repentance and fasting.
I think people try to prove the flying spaghetti monster intellectually and historically too much, instead of encouraging people to seek It spiritually through diligent prayer, repentance and fasting.
Amazing! Always watch Daily Dose of Wisdom. Shalom from Brazil, folks!
i love the philosophical conversations on brandon's channel. questions and conversations that stimulate my brain and just get me thinking deeper rather than getting caught up in the daily routine. absolutely love the content 👌🏼
He's hesitant because he knows the impact it will have on his life when he commits to the belief that Christ rose from the dead. He understands it deeper than many (most?) professing Christians. The world is already beating on him for asking hard questions, what's it going to do when he declares open war on it and starts taking his orders directly from Christ? We all need to be praying for Jordan Peterson.
In God's time, not ours.
I think one needs to "confess with his mouth" the Lord Jesus. All of us, rich, poor, famous, little known, everyone who has become a follower of Christ should make it known. It's our "reasonable service" to align ourselves with the King of the Universe, no matter what may befall us.
Or perhaps he is terrified to be identified as the "Many" listed in Matt 7: 21-23
@@SINQUEFIELD83 Yes, that is something we should all fear.
Or maybe he just doesn't believe that happened. I've never actually heard him say he believed God is real I've just heard him say he lives as if God is real.
You guys should collab more often. You are a great duo.
We have a full pod that this video flowed into
Jordan is getting there, be patient and let GOD work.
This interview and his chat with Pints with Aquinas are quite a combo. Highly recommend.
I think like Nicodemus, JP can see the Truth but actually totally acknowledging it with 100% clarity would change his life forever and is he ready for that? He is also so intellectual and as we know God confounds the 'wise' with simplicity! The gospel is so straightforward, you have to have the faith of a child to accept it. Those that seek the Truth will find it. JP is certainly seeking..... X And hopefully Alex will also look at the facts and acknowledge the Truth. Lord bless him too.
Agreed. Peterson is never flippant about the weight of the resurrection. He actually understands the implications of belief. As the hymn says, Jesus's sacrifice "demands my soul, my life, my all."
What a great guest to colab with! I love watching both of your channels!
Thanks for sharing and commenting on this part of the conversation between Jordan Peterson and Alex O'Conner! If I may share my personal (and humble) opinion: I think that Peterson is still wrestling with his doubts about the reliability of the Gospel accounts, meaning, about how literally we can and should take them.
And I admit that, right now, I’m in a very similar position…
God bless you both!
Amen.
Yooo Brandon! The collab I never thought I’d see but happy to see👨🏾🌾
You see Jordan is brilliant, I don’t mean in his intellect but his honesty. He’s being really honest about his wrestling with GOD. And that itself is really valuable to others who are doing the same. Trying to stumble their way into the truth that is Christ. Much of the world is doing the same and I believe his words help shine a light on them. Letting them know, even a man as knowledgeable and insightful on the Bible is still a human trying to figure out his way home with no specific directions.
Alex dominated that discussion. Peterson gave word salads, was speechless many times and overall clueless
I think he’s being very careful with his words. Not completely sure why, but when he answered Alex’s question it sounded like he was about to say yes, but changed it. It sounded to me like he said “I would say… suspect yes”.
This made me cry 🙏🏻❤️
Awesome to see the face behind DDoW! I stopped watching it a couple years back, think because of new acount, but I'll definately subscribe again
I would like to see Peterson and Cliff Knechtle have a conversation .
As a thinker, Jordan Peterson’s sharing of his thoughts feels practical in a way that no other thinker of this time. I can see with my own eyes the sincerely process of wrestling with doubt and despite the limitations of human facilities act towards one’s best and ongoing understanding of the highest good. All this occurs in faith that the highest good aligns with, leads to, serves and/or is God.
I like how his response after the “I suspect” was shown as well…
Here for these two GOATS!!
Best Ruslan yet - but so short! There was so much in the Alex/Peterson video to discuss!
❤ both of these brothers
Look from watching pints with Aquinas it is very clear he is on the path towards God. Just because the yes is not a simple yes does not mean anything when you look at his actions that are overall pro Christian. So what if he wrestles with the faith? Are we any better? Because I been catholic for almost 8 years and God always surprise me. He engages me he calls to me. And I’m still confused to why even though my mind knows why. My heart is still learning. So give the guy a breath.
" So what if he wrestles with the faith? Are we any better?"
There can't be a Christian that has ever walked the earth that has never had some doubts so you make a very good point.
However I do think "wrestling with God" is ambiguous enough to impart any meaning one cares to on it. Im not saying the following is true but maybe Peterson (being an extremely thoughtful person) is very comfortable in his own mind that his idea of god will never be the same as the Christian (Nicene Creed) idea of God. Not unless there is a broadening of what it means to be a Christian. I think it naive to think that Peterson is necessarily pro Christian simply because he talks scripture.
My response is slightly cinical but I don't consider that unfair when talking about Peterson after all in this podcast they said that Peterson could be turning some Christians agnostic.
@@johnwheeler3071 you do not think its pro christian?
peterson singlehandedly made me fundamentally question my atheist beliefs at the core. He is singlehandedly the reason I asked my mother for a bible. I didnt finish it. I honestly only started and am procrastinating on it. But every day that man walks the earth and talks about this subject, it reminds me to not forget about it. to make time for it. and to dont discard the thought no matter what else in life comes up
I wouldnt call myself a christian. But I am basically what your side wants to achieve. I am already talking about christianity and defending it in front of my atheistic gf, my atheistic friends and even put myself in a bad light for it. simply by teachings of jordan peterson for the most part.
That man knows how to defend christianity. So. Take it for whatever it is worth.
I would say though that this is not in the slightest insignificant change.
in my mind I now see atheists in a similar defensive position as christians. if not more.
that doesnt necessarily make me christian. but it takes away so much influence from atheists beliefs and that has also very clear political direct implications
@@johnwheeler3071 we can’t control people and direct them to what we want from them. Speaking from experience. All we can do is pray, sacrifice and be good and genuine and love our neighbor as Christ loves him. Because at the end of the day it is Christ alone who saves and keeps us alive. When you learn to let God be God. He will do the unimaginable. It’s ok to be cinical. But always look at the context. We don’t get to choose who enters the faith. But it’s easy to lose our way. So keep your gaze on God. For he is a good Father. Jordan is practically a baby in the faith. A baby has to learn to crawl before he can stand. To try and fail to walk. Before it can run.
My two favorite Christian channels come together🙌🏽💪🏽
It's simple. He doesn't want to lie.
Awesome duo! Both on the Peterson podcast and yours. God bless you guys and I hope to see you guys collaborate and work more together. Great minds!
It’s been great seeing JP on his journey to Christianity.
Great critical thinking from the guest on today. He’s very well spoken too.
Yo that hoodie is tuff 😮💨🔥
I thank God for the atheists, honestly. They're helping Christianity move to the next level. The world will benefit from this.
🦩🩵🦩🩵🦩🩵🦩🩵🦩🩵🦩🩵🦩🩵🦩Please pray for salvation for Chris, Pete and Nick.
Okay!
I get the urge to understand Jordan Peterson's worldview, but I think the approach you guys have is off. Jordan is being very cautious because he doesn't want to slip into being a symbol for a specific denominations' worldview. Because if he does that, it cannot unify Christianity. You two are wanting him to fit within your definition or someone else's definition so that he is categorized. But that is what he's fighting against - the categorization shouldn't be paramount!! It's walking with Christ that should be paramount
We just want him to affirm the Gospel as it presented in the Bible it has nothing to do with being part of a specific denomination.
This doesn't have to do with any particular denomination. It's the gospel as preached in scripture. Any denomination would have to agree jesus christ resurrected
I love Peterson but Isn’t it that people are worried he is hiding gnostic views that maybe he doesn’t even realize he portrays? This is my worry.
Yeah that is his idea, and he personally has said as much. God ask us to be bold in our faith. So had jordan not believed that might be a noble endeavor. If he does believe and does this it is lying. Avoiding the truth to bring people together never works.
@@alankish4098 Have you read his book "Maps of Meaning"? I worried he was gnostic as well, but after reading "MoM" I don't believe he has gnostic views. Most gnostic believe Christianity is part of a greater understanding, but It seems Jordan has a revearsed version of that where he holds Christianity at the pinnical, where everything else is a lesser version of Christianity. Jordan is approaching Christianity from a psychological-scientific angle. He is very influenced by Carl Jung.
It sounds like JP is wrestling with the intellectual/emotional aspects of faith. Faith isn’t just one or the other, faith is both of the aspects combined.
I appreciate Alex as an Atheist/Agnostic having these conversations in this manner. He seems to be genuinely seeking like Joe Rogan. Whereas others in his position have their feet planted in the ground and have their mind made up. We need more conversations like this.
Hey, RUclips's recommendation was on point for me 😊❤✝️
Mark 12:59 JP is saying he believes in the historical event and the witness accounts of the resurrection but he doesn’t know what that “means” exactly. I think that’s actually a very humble response at this point.
I watch both of your channels a lot, so it was very cool to see the collaboration.
I feel so bad for smart people. It's easy being simple and just loving and knowing. To not always depend on yourself and know that there is a loving force following you that knows you and watches out for you and then to be taught who that is growing up and just knowing, is such a blessing. Thank you, Jesus, for faithful parents .
Psalms 2:12
"Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, When his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him."
I’ve struggled with over intellectually thinking about things …it’s actually why I chose to do drugs as a child…sad…I now know Christ through faith as well as knowing in all my heart and mind…over whelming proof…even more miraculous experiences…once you are literally saved from the clutches of hell by Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior there is no doubt and them upon knowing The Holy Spirit….God gives us wisdom instead of only having knowledge…there’s no more doubt…I thank God for that
@johndickerson6946 like you can't enter the kingdom of God until you've been saved from hell...makes total sense
I haven't read the bible completely...I believe in God and Christ for what christ has done in my life so far....I have been spared from death more than 10 times and more, where if things had been different I should be dead by now, my child was born because I asked God and said it was his decision, its up to him if our journey is already written and if we had another child it was up to him the week after we had a child on the way. There was only a 1% chance of having a child at that moment, which we are blessed for. Christ is the way....he has saved me for something great and I will rest when the work is done.
@@John-i2i6b do you have to pray in a specific way and do you somehow know what action is part of "will of the Father" for you to take? Does God talk with you like some preachers claim, or is it just a "feeling"?
Love yall both, this is a cool moment for both of us.
Daily Dose of Wisdom looking the third Mario bro with that moustache and hat.
The strongest Mario Bro
Minute 14:30, such a great question!...honestly, this is something that Christians still wrestle with, I think, because it plants the most solid of flags in the most solid of sands. It comes down to TRUTH and belief in the 1 and only true God
Mb Jordan is jus so smart, that his brain thinks so deep , that this is how he expresses this question, he is definitely on a whole other level .. 🤗♥️🙏🏽
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Excellent video, thanks guys
Hedging the way Peterson always does is a far cry from confessing with his mouth the Lord Jesus and believing in his heart that God has raised Him from the dead.
come on Brandon so proud of you man!!
Strangely enough I think I understand when he says he believes the resurrection accounts but doesn’t understand it. He tends to examine most things very comprehensively, he tends to express his thoughts on subject in a manner that is richly textured and he doesn’t feel that his grasp of the topic isn’t where he would prefer.
The need to fully understand is a fools errand, this is why Jordan is always running on a mental treadmill. The goal is a reduction in uncertainty while taking steps forward in faith. Not the elimination of uncertainty and walking in circles of endless skepticism.
Whoa...Ruslan, Daily Dose and Nick Jones are from SoCal along with Sean McDowell... God has California and the world in His hands 😃🙏🏿🙏🏻🙏🙏🏽
What modern "Christian" theology fails to grasp is that there is way more to truth and reality and scripture than just the first level that they focus on. This is where the confusion comes from when they listen to someone outside of their religious tradition, such as Jordan Peterson.
2:57 it’s a great example of how we need to operate at level of abstraction we need that context demands.
May Jordan truly come to know Jesus ❤. Give him that new heart, and put that new Spirit within him, Lord
I said it before and I'll say it again. Dr. Peterson is an extremely intelligent, reserved, defensive, baby Christian.
When Christ got me, I was still sceptical of some biblical truths. I didn't believe nor want Jesus to return. Thought it was nuts to even consider until God led me to the radiology wing of CHOP. Looking at a room full of lifeless children, I was crying begging for Christ to return. That was about 11 years ago. Not sceptical anymore.
Lets give Dr. Peterson some time and grace to build confidence in the hard things of the Bible because sometimes as seasoned Christians I think we forget when we first believed. It's amazing watching such a confident man being grafted by the Holy Spirit. It's something to start a new life. 👍🏻😁🙏🏻
The last couple of times I’ve seen you cover Peterson, it feels like he knows once he professes these things publicly, that he’ll be held to the way of life that being a Christian calls us to be; and he doesn’t want that standard for his life. Like he’s aware of the higher standard that the Bible says we’re supposed to live, and the last video I watched of you talking about his stance, he was very vocal on knowing what the Bible says the Christian life is supposed to be like.
Love seeing these two guys together!!! Love them both!
Nice combo, look to see more of you two work together
Dr JP is a brave man to allow such a public journey along the way to his finding God. He will find God if he keeps seeking. God bless JP.
JP has helped me a lot in understanding and trusting even more in the Bible. I understood early on that he wasn't a Christian and I honestly didn't think it was my right to expect him to be. Sometimes we want to give a title to people and those people don't want that title, not because it is wrong, but that it comes with responsibility and judgement that they aren't ready to deal with.
Not knowing what to do once you get past, the resurrection is a very honest admission. I think many believers, including myself once you arrive at saving Grace, we still have a long journey to go. I feel as if salvation is the first door of many that we will open and close behind us.
Great content
The way he uses "suspect" may be around the use of technology to record... but I agree he is skirting the issue a bit...
Ruslan’s impression of J.B.P always has me cackling 🤣🤣
You guys did a real nice job of landing the high-flying debate between Peterson and O’Conner. As a Catholic, I wonder why you never mention the Shroud of Turín as the most astonishing evidence for the resurrection of Jesus Christ, it’s much more awesome than a camcorder.
Nice to see you two work together. Two on my favorite channels
So the question then becomes, is salvation something you come to through faith produced within you or is salvation something that happens to you and is only initiated by God?
Everything is initiated by God. If he didn’t want to be known we would be robots. He has told us that He is salvation. We can choose to accept. Faith would be impossible if God did not make himself known. At least that’s my understanding.
God is great. He used this interview, with this guest knowing Alex would ask the question about Jesus' resurrection only for him to admit "yes". Thus awakening Jordans mind and heart to our Lord Jesus Christ. Sometimes we must travel through storms to appreciate calm waters. God is great.
Jordan speaks clearly later in the interview of Theosis , references Jonathan Pageau, also constantly wrestling the Augustinian idea of original sin , likening more to Eastern Orthodoxy idea of original sin - which is fine imo
All prejudice aside, I pray God fills Dr. JP with his spirit of truth by his faith in Jesus Christ.
So that he may come to an accurate understanding of God and of what all the accounts of Jesus mean 😊
Yas, Daily Dose Wisdom finally collabed with Ruslan!
Ruslan, nice job! I ❤️ Daily Dose of Wisdom! It was great to see Brandon on, especially after you had that arrogant mega pastor on last week. He could use a dose of wisdom and an extra XL side of humility. This one was great 👍👍
Good to see Brandon on the episode!
The question of would we see the stone rolled away and Jesus walk out of the tomb is not the question. The answer to that is NO. The point of the stone being rolled away was so they would see Jesus was not there ... NOT ... for Him to get out. That's the point of the stone being rolled away.
Hey Ruslan KD Team. I enjoy your content. When you were discussing about Cosmic Skeptics response or Alex O'Connor on his gnostic response: "Its not about what he did, but what he said".
This statement by itself would mean that when we look at what Jesus said, then we would see how Jesus claimed himself to be God multiple times. Therefore, we should look more at what he said.
Thank you so much for what you all do. Take care. God bless.
I love a daily dose of wisdom. So helpful!
My humble take is it is a comparison to the rich young ruler. I’ve heard Peterson speak on the significance or the importance of the “commitment” in following Jesus. We can understand and/or believe but are we “willing” to allow him to be not just our savior, bout also our Lord
Awesome! Watch ya both! 😊