Looking forward to this challenge! Remember, if you want that chaco cylinder jar to be as authentic as possible, it needs that chocolate residue, so drink up when it's done! ☕
Thanks. I am wondering what the authentic chocolate drink would have been like. Because I have to assume it is nothing like hot cocoa and also very little like Mexican hot chocolate. Have you ever seen a recipe?
@@AncientPottery There are many recorded ingredients and flavorings and there would have been a many varieties of it (kind of like how there's many varieties of coffee today). I can tell you for a fact, that it would not have had sugar. I'm not aware of any pre-contact recipes that survive in detail, though you can find "Aztec" or "Maya" chocolate recipes online. (I personally think that most of those are modern interpretations though but they are still worth looking at). I'd recommend getting "The True History of Chocolate" by Michael and Sophie Coe from the local library if you want to go a little deeper. My next episode will actually be about this topic so keep an eye out for it.
@@AncientPottery Google says there was a drink 3500 years ago called Xocolatl or bitter water. It was made from crushed cocoa, cornmeal and chili pepper. I know this is an earlier time period than the pots you are making. Google also says they worshipped this drink. I take that part with a grain of salt. In my experience, modern science says Native people worship anything the scientists don’t understand. They don’t seem to understand the difference between “holding great respect for” and “worshiping.” Anyway… hope this helps a little.❤️🤗🐝
This video is so amazing thank you I really enjoyed the focus on Chaco canyon. I think it is one of the most spectacular sites I’ve ever beheld. It was really nice to see the Maps of the different tribes and hear about the timelines and how pottery has changed. I love this intricate history. I’m sure other people do too. It’s just makes pottery that much more interesting and compelling. Ancient pottery techniques were such a phenomenal technology. They were also a huge, cultural and creative focus. I love that you’re bringing modern attention to the sacred ancient lost arts. You are the Bob Ross of ancient pottery!! ❤
Thank you so much, I am glad you enjoyed this video. These kinds of mini-documentaries take a lot more time to produce, even without actually traveling.
You are seriously the coolest. EVER 🎉 I want to be your apprentice in another dimension where I don't have to work all the time. I really appreciate this video! I'm in prescott AZ.
The designs are amazingly detailed geometric. I would love to know the meaning of the designs. I am Australian and watched your video today on how to make and fire a bowl at home. Your channel is fascinating and your craftsmanship is fabulous, Andy!
I just recently discovered your channel, Andy. The hard work and attention to detail that you put into every video is obvious and very much appreciated. I look forward to learning all that you have to teach!
Hi Andy, really great to see your new challenge! Look forward to trying to replicate at least some of these. And look forward much more to seeing your videos of you making them! (Hope you got my photos of the pots I made for the last challenge)
I live on the San Marcos pueblo land grant, near Santa Fe. I've found dozens of shards and one arrowhead on my property that are quite beautiful. Good luck with your project. Michael
I'm so happy you are doing another season! The patterns on these pieces are gorgeous and inspiring. I won't be creating them on pottery but I might play around with them some other way.
This is probably interesting video i have watched. Thank you for the tour and history lesson. I dream visiting all those locations. Havent bee back to the south west since 2017. 😢
Hi Andy your content is great I really enjoy it, you are an engaging host and I feel very warmly towards you and your passion for traditional pottery! I am from the UK and would love to get into all this one day. Sadly I live in a dense urban environment and don't have much access to land where I could start a fire without upsetting anyone. Till I figure something out I'll be watching your videos to learn and relax. All the best. 👍 ☀
Looking forward to seeing this year’s challenge. Maybe I will get around to making some of these one day but for now I just enjoy watching you do it. I find it very interesting. Thank you for doing this.
Super excited! I’m a beginning potter. I’ve taken a hand building class and a wheel throwing class. I won’t be able to participate in the challenge unfortunately but very much looking forward to watching you make these. Hopefully I’ll be able to participate in the future if you continue this series.
Andy you've inspired me to harvest some wild clay of my own (just trying to figure out how much grog i need!) that's been sitting waiting for a shape to be called out of it for about a week now! Im tempted to try to make a scaled down Tusayan Polychrome bowl to use as a yarn bowl.... But I think a Chaco Canyon style brush holder/vase might be more attainable for an absolute beginner 🤔
@@AncientPottery thank you! The thing is that the clay i harvested already seems like it has enough tiny sandy bits that it's texture looks a lot like what you say "looks good" in your own vid where you add the grog in... Im from Ontario Canada and it came from a creek bed so I think it must have a good amount of sand and i was thinking of doing a test firing to see for sure
I was very interested in the Show Low pueblo. I have been looking for information about that pueblo and the artifacts found there. Can you tell me where that information might be found?
There is no order for that, but you might enjoy some of the videos in the "Get Started in Primitive Pottery" playlist ruclips.net/video/ztLn3BsYuJ8/видео.html
Interesting coalesced living structures. The variety of pottery shapes, materials, paints, and geometric designs is quite large. I find it interesting that geometric designs seem far more overrepresented than designs that are recognizable as being pictographic. It might be that some of what I see as geometric is in fact pictographic, but is too abstract for me to recognize as being pictographic.
What happened in 1300 or so that caused such a rapid cultural shift? What theories do archeologists have? Is there a good RUclips channel you recommend for Southwestern Ancient History?
That's the $100,000 question. There are a lot of theories out there. That was around the time that the kachina religion began. Also warfare and drought effected some areas and cause people to move away. @ArchaeologySouthwest is a good source of information about the ancient Southwest.
So it sounds like someone should build Museum and all that potter needs to come back to the south west. And those places in the east potter they need to make there potter.
Hi andy, Could you describe how the styles differ from each other? Obviously the redware and the black and white are very different, but I can’t tell between different black and white styles what the distinctive aspects are. Thanks!
That's pretty technical stuff. I tried to keep it simple, explaining that some were made with organic paint and some with mineral paint, etc. But many of these types are defined based on differences in the temper and the clay or subtle design differences. The best place to find out more about these pottery types with detailed descriptions is this website run by the New Mexico Office of Archaeological Studies - ceramics.nmarchaeology.org One of my goals is to spend more time listing sources in the dooblidoo of my videos to help people who want to go deeper get a more detailed description than I offer in the video.
Looking forward to this challenge! Remember, if you want that chaco cylinder jar to be as authentic as possible, it needs that chocolate residue, so drink up when it's done! ☕
Thanks. I am wondering what the authentic chocolate drink would have been like. Because I have to assume it is nothing like hot cocoa and also very little like Mexican hot chocolate. Have you ever seen a recipe?
@@AncientPottery There are many recorded ingredients and flavorings and there would have been a many varieties of it (kind of like how there's many varieties of coffee today). I can tell you for a fact, that it would not have had sugar. I'm not aware of any pre-contact recipes that survive in detail, though you can find "Aztec" or "Maya" chocolate recipes online. (I personally think that most of those are modern interpretations though but they are still worth looking at). I'd recommend getting "The True History of Chocolate" by Michael and Sophie Coe from the local library if you want to go a little deeper. My next episode will actually be about this topic so keep an eye out for it.
@@AncientPottery Google says there was a drink 3500 years ago called Xocolatl or bitter water. It was made from crushed cocoa, cornmeal and chili pepper. I know this is an earlier time period than the pots you are making. Google also says they worshipped this drink. I take that part with a grain of salt. In my experience, modern science says Native people worship anything the scientists don’t understand. They don’t seem to understand the difference between “holding great respect for” and “worshiping.” Anyway… hope this helps a little.❤️🤗🐝
ruclips.net/video/MaYPEvDuo1I/видео.htmlsi=AYHX9olLozK-Tl34
Here’s a video to an ancient recipe from the region.
@@deborahdanhauer8525 yea, "science" anything is questionable at best.
Some real cool picks Andy! Wow that bowl's massive, and cool! Hopefully I'll be able to try making a few.
I look forward to seeing what you do Will. Thanks
🎉 for another challenge! Besides the beautiful pottery and the history behind it I love how your sense of humor shines through
Thank you, I am sometimes hesitant to be too goofy on my videos, not being sure how the audience will respond.
I love your videos, and this season I’m going to give your challenge a go. 😀
Looking forward to seeing your pots. Thanks
Can’t wait to see you make the Chaco cylinder jar (along with the other examples of course …)
Thanks, I have made a few before but like I said about the Tularosa, I cheated with manganese paint, so hoping to do it right this time around.
Looking forward to this Andy..
The motif on that first Tularosa piece at 7:33 is quite astonishing. So beautiful ❤
Yes it is, I love those.
Heh. The correspondent part made me smile.
I also like the clothing changes.
Having fun
What you are doing is awesome. I will enjoy learning about each pot and the culture that created it. Thank you.
I'm a first time viewer and new subscriber, I really appreciate what you're doing here. Thanks!
You're welcome
This years selections are particularly beautiful to me. Especially the one from Chaco. I can’t wait to watch you make them!❤️🤗🐝
Glad you like them, I hope to get started on these very soon.
Great challenge and beautiful pottery.
Thanks Wes
I laughed out loud and I look forward to seeing your pots.
Thanks
So pleased you are making the pots again this season. I love watching you make them
Thank you
This video is so amazing thank you I really enjoyed the focus on Chaco canyon. I think it is one of the most spectacular sites I’ve ever beheld. It was really nice to see the Maps of the different tribes and hear about the timelines and how pottery has changed. I love this intricate history. I’m sure other people do too. It’s just makes pottery that much more interesting and compelling. Ancient pottery techniques were such a phenomenal technology. They were also a huge, cultural and creative focus. I love that you’re bringing modern attention to the sacred ancient lost arts. You are the Bob Ross of ancient pottery!! ❤
Thank you so much, I am glad you enjoyed this video. These kinds of mini-documentaries take a lot more time to produce, even without actually traveling.
Thanks for taking us on your tour! So glad to see Mesa Verde black-on-white included.
You're welcome, how could I skip Mesa Verde?
Love the green screen, it made my day better. Great selection of pots, I can’t wait to recreate them. Cheers!
Thanks Walter, hope you can make one or two yourself.
You are seriously the coolest. EVER 🎉 I want to be your apprentice in another dimension where I don't have to work all the time. I really appreciate this video! I'm in prescott AZ.
I hate it when work gets in the way of pottery. Thanks
Love it, I'm going to try to make something tomorrow at the club! Looking forward to seeing you create these.
Thanks.
The designs are amazingly detailed geometric. I would love to know the meaning of the designs. I am Australian and watched your video today on how to make and fire a bowl at home. Your channel is fascinating and your craftsmanship is fabulous, Andy!
What a brilliant challenge! count us in! We're already half way there! LOL! Great video, Andy!
Thanks, a couple of these will fall right into your Cibola project so that should make things easier on me.
@@AncientPottery I was thinking the same thing! We don't want the Cibola Challenge to end!!! LOL!
always good, I enjoy the history....
Thank you
I just recently discovered your channel, Andy. The hard work and attention to detail that you put into every video is obvious and very much appreciated. I look forward to learning all that you have to teach!
Thanks and welcome
Andy, you're the absolute sweetest, your love and drive to build a community of potters does not go unnoticed. May God bless you all of your days ❤
Thank you so much.
Hi Andy, really great to see your new challenge! Look forward to trying to replicate at least some of these. And look forward much more to seeing your videos of you making them! (Hope you got my photos of the pots I made for the last challenge)
Sorry, I don't remember if I did or not, too many fans for my brain to keep track of... Thanks
I live on the San Marcos pueblo land grant, near Santa Fe. I've found dozens of shards and one arrowhead on my property that are quite beautiful. Good luck with your project. Michael
Oh interesting. Is that in northern New Mexico?
60 miles north of Albuquerque. It's at the very tail end of the Rockies.
I'm so happy you are doing another season! The patterns on these pieces are gorgeous and inspiring. I won't be creating them on pottery but I might play around with them some other way.
Glad you like them, I would like to see what you do with them.
Love the correspondents 😂
Ha ha, thanks, just being silly
This is probably interesting video i have watched. Thank you for the tour and history lesson. I dream visiting all those locations. Havent bee back to the south west since 2017. 😢
Hi Andy your content is great I really enjoy it, you are an engaging host and I feel very warmly towards you and your passion for traditional pottery!
I am from the UK and would love to get into all this one day. Sadly I live in a dense urban environment and don't have much access to land where I could start a fire without upsetting anyone. Till I figure something out I'll be watching your videos to learn and relax. All the best. 👍 ☀
Thank you. I live in a city that is probably much less dense than yours and I hate it. I hope to some day be able to move out to the country.
Looking forward to seeing this year’s challenge.
Maybe I will get around to making some of these one day but for now I just enjoy watching you do it. I find it very interesting. Thank you for doing this.
Thanks, I am just glad you enjoy my content
Can’t wait for season five am so excited 🎉🎉
I am glad you are enjoying this.
I get Cucuteni Trypillia pottery vibes when looking at these wares.
Super excited! I’m a beginning potter. I’ve taken a hand building class and a wheel throwing class. I won’t be able to participate in the challenge unfortunately but very much looking forward to watching you make these. Hopefully I’ll be able to participate in the future if you continue this series.
That's great. I will be glad just to have you watch my videos
Let me know when you are going to do the trench firing...I'd love to do a road trip down from Calgary to help out!
Well, it won't be a proper trench kiln. It will be a little smothered firing with one or two pots.
Andy you've inspired me to harvest some wild clay of my own (just trying to figure out how much grog i need!) that's been sitting waiting for a shape to be called out of it for about a week now! Im tempted to try to make a scaled down Tusayan Polychrome bowl to use as a yarn bowl.... But I think a Chaco Canyon style brush holder/vase might be more attainable for an absolute beginner 🤔
Go for it. By the way, 20%
@@AncientPottery thank you! The thing is that the clay i harvested already seems like it has enough tiny sandy bits that it's texture looks a lot like what you say "looks good" in your own vid where you add the grog in... Im from Ontario Canada and it came from a creek bed so I think it must have a good amount of sand and i was thinking of doing a test firing to see for sure
@@Anaesify use less if your clay is already gritty. Every clay is different you will need to do a little experimenting
I was very interested in the Show Low pueblo. I have been looking for information about that pueblo and the artifacts found there. Can you tell me where that information might be found?
No idea. I have heard that the pueblo was right about where the Show Low McDonalds is today.
Is it possible to find the order of your videos to watch for the complete beginner? Thank you!
There is no order for that, but you might enjoy some of the videos in the "Get Started in Primitive Pottery" playlist ruclips.net/video/ztLn3BsYuJ8/видео.html
Interesting coalesced living structures.
The variety of pottery shapes, materials, paints, and geometric designs is quite large. I find it interesting that geometric designs seem far more overrepresented than designs that are recognizable as being pictographic. It might be that some of what I see as geometric is in fact pictographic, but is too abstract for me to recognize as being pictographic.
You see the same thing all across the Americas
If all 200 cylinder jars discovered with chocolate residue in one room….I’m guessing they had a hot chocolate shop like a dunks going on
Those cylinders are pretty big too, so it takes a lot of cocoa to fill one of those.
What happened in 1300 or so that caused such a rapid cultural shift? What theories do archeologists have? Is there a good RUclips channel you recommend for Southwestern Ancient History?
That's the $100,000 question. There are a lot of theories out there. That was around the time that the kachina religion began. Also warfare and drought effected some areas and cause people to move away. @ArchaeologySouthwest is a good source of information about the ancient Southwest.
@@AncientPottery thank you!
Im interested in potteries and other artifacts found near and around Oklahoma
Well... what did the bartender say?😁
I guess we will never know
Bartenders can be like that!
👍
What about the Virgin Anasazi? (SW Utah?)
That’s a thing but mostly not on the Colorado plateau also I only needed 7 pots and the Virgin pottery doesn’t inspire me very much.
So it sounds like someone should build Museum and all that potter needs to come back to the south west. And those places in the east potter they need to make there potter.
😄👍
I’m Lenape tribe 😢😢😢😢😂😂😢😢
Why the sad faces. Be proud of what you are and be happy.
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Hi andy,
Could you describe how the styles differ from each other? Obviously the redware and the black and white are very different, but I can’t tell between different black and white styles what the distinctive aspects are. Thanks!
That's pretty technical stuff. I tried to keep it simple, explaining that some were made with organic paint and some with mineral paint, etc. But many of these types are defined based on differences in the temper and the clay or subtle design differences. The best place to find out more about these pottery types with detailed descriptions is this website run by the New Mexico Office of Archaeological Studies - ceramics.nmarchaeology.org
One of my goals is to spend more time listing sources in the dooblidoo of my videos to help people who want to go deeper get a more detailed description than I offer in the video.
You must have dragged every shirt you own out of the closet for that gag.
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