for those who don't know (zwag included) the way illaoi's tentacle's work is that when there is a spirit within range they are coded to slam one time automatically on them. And then you can use w to make them slam again on the same target. It is a feature not a bug. The 4 slams is the bug from the runan's.
Props to the teammates. The hardest part of playing Illoai is having a team that can follow up. Lost a ton of games where I crushed the enemy team all game but my team didn't know how to get anything on the map from it. Playing with Illoai 101: If they send 2+ top, take a team fight at an advantage, win, take an objective If they send 0-1 top, stall the enemy team so Illoai wins top fight and pushes Pro strat, once Illoai gets near inhib they'll almost always send 4, or 2+ their most fed champs. Let Illoai bait them into a chase while you bush cheese, then collapse on them Strats to win against Illaoi: If she misses e, and isn't near wall tentacles punish her If she ults, run away until the tentacles clear. You've got around 50-60 seconds before next ult DO NOT go in 1 by 1, always attack together to burst through her healing
To give you a background about Illaoi's kit, her tentacles slam scales with attack speed, it slams much faster. When you pull a spirit, nearby tentacles automatically slams it. That's why it's better to use your E then ult, so that you can get that automatic slam.
It only attacks automatically after the copy from E dies. Only automatically attacks that target of her E. Aside that...only W activates the tentacles.
@@thanatos8618tentacles will automatically hit the soul every few seconds. Then, if the soul dies or the target gets out of range, it will automatically hit the champion itself every few seconds until the curse is over.
For those why the tentacles slams multiple times is cause of runaan... Illaoi 2nd skill is a auto attack ability which means if there are multiple target in the area with a tentacle on it a single W can trigger the effect around to those who got hit by runaan .
Fun little trick: use your e if people open with cc. You are stunned in animation. And illaoi ult can negate cc. Even morde ult if you time it properly
This is why ILLAOI is one of the champions I despite as a jungler. Absolutely a pain to gank and often win/dominate her lane. She has 1 vs 2, 3, 4, 5 potential even when she's feeding. Tanky, high sustain, huge diversified dmg, AoE.
Tentacles auto target pulled souls so yes it should slam twice when w is used, soul also counts as a champion for ult and healing purposes so it's recommended you E before you ult for max tentacles and slam time while in animation, and if the target leaves the area or the soul is defeated then tentacles target the champ. OH and ult makes all tentacles slam faster, shortens cool down on w, and makes it so tentacles are both invisible and don't show there slam area TLDR E before R and yes it should work how it dose DW about it
"TENTakill" -- Zwag and friend's boy band name. Featuring songs like "Too Many Tentacles", "No, Maiii Cannon", "I Could Have Flashed, But...", and "The Real Zwig Zwagmo"
I remember Mordekaiser when Rito decided to make him bot lane carry and gave him weird magnetic thingy. When he was close to paired ally they both were doing AoE damage.
You should do a vid where you duo Illaoi with Karthus. His ult hits both the champ and the tentacled clone, lets you 1-shot them, after she grabs, with his ult super early if he gets fed. 😂
Shyvana with runaans sounds really strong now - rageblade may proc q reset allowing you to spam the double hit. It also sounds strong for proccing heartsteelcas the radius is 300, and I wonder if it procs sundered sky
@zwag her ult will make tentacles invulnerable within a certain range of illaoi. And the tentacles will slam at 50 percent speed at the spirited champion as long as you are in range. Fun video!
Could you try: Illaoi, with Grasp. Iceborn> riftmaker>Sunderer then just kinda pick your poison on last 2. I tried with steraks and cleaver. Shojinn might be better than steraks if you get fed early. but cleaver seems to be a must since the ap on passive is turned to physical damage. TY, Sir! love your stuff.
As soon as I saying was underwhelming, Zwag figures out how to make the double slam happen (assuming the Quadra slam is related). Never doubt the Wizard himself
whenever i like to play Illaoi i call it "The Slappening!" Dunno if it works but i'd like to see if ruunan bolts can be empowered by Nasus q and Stack passively targets other than the initial hit
I think the multiple slams working and not is due W being a dash/leap. SO if W moves you even just 1 unit it counts a dash and runanns interaction gets canceled, just like it doesnt work on Smolder and Akshan E's. Probobly due to being this way multiple hacarim E knockbacks would NOT work.
Yeah it happens thanks to a interaction bug or lets say thanks to a wired bit of coding where the Slam is triggerd as a onhit effect but the "buff" of activating W is cleard after the animation. So when the bolds from Runans are mid air and you activate W you gain Slamonhit that are triggert with the Bolts but the buff is not cleard since the animation is not yet finished. At least that would be my guess.
I don't think that's it. Illaoi auto attack speed is not enough for that, and it would work for range champs. I think it's a simple case of w being coded as an auto attack effect when used as an auto (this is a bit obscure, but illaoi's w can either be a spell or an auto based on the range you attack from). So when used w as an auto, I think what happens is that runnans trigger and duplicate the effect.
@@mufurrIf they would multiply the effect of the W then the slam would multitrigger on singel use of W what it don't look to do. It only seams to trigger if you Auto atack first. And ther is multiple points in the Video where you see that the slam is first triggert on a target hit by the Bolt before going for the original W target. If it whre a On attack and not On hit effect Runans would do nothing. But this give me to wonder if Rageblade would work if you would use W on the second attack but I am not sure enough if both "onhits" come down in the same game tick or if ther is a slight delay and it would not work.
I was out and about when I posted this comment but I guess it never went through! “Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?” No, he missed a melee minion Lose Streak: 1
Since Runaan can make the tentacles slam up to 4 times, and phantom hit from Rageblade applies on-hit effect twice....do you think you can make them slam up to 8 times with both these items ?
It has nothing to do with the auto. It has to deal with being close enough to not have the slam do the gap close. If it does the small dash it wont happen. And you get up to 3 slams depending on how many targets are around. Illaoi has always been this way it is just not reliable.
At 14:55 it was supposed to hit 2 times, because when you use the e the tantacl hit automatic the soul for one time. So After the first hit because of the e it hit again because of your W.
I don't know how you beat Yorick in top lane now. He's so overtuned at the moment that it just feels like no one can lane against him. Hitting E is the easiest skillshot in the game currently, and the ghouls melt everything for no effort. At least hitting Illaoi E requires some braincells to hit consistently.
When u hit an E during a clash, its not that important to focus it. Focus all your damage to champions instead since they're near u already. U can actually see the difference when enemy viego ganked u, ur too scared to use E since youre out of mana but bam double kill. It also shows on some of the clash as well :)
Katarina giving the penta at the end was so nice
That's a real bro
I think you mean *Tenta.
@@Ricardo-C probably a bro playing tho
They legit dashed into Zwag because they knew there was no winning, and wanted Illaoi to get the "TENTAkill!" and I just think that's cute.
@@Ricardo-Cyou’re joking right?
"Who is going to build a Runaan's on Illaoi?" - Everybody, Zwag. Literally everybody.
28:07 - Ok, that "TENTakill" was hilarious as fuck 😂😂😂😂👌👌🤣🤣😂😂
Props to kat for giving that penta. And I was not expecting the “TENTAkill”
for those who don't know (zwag included) the way illaoi's tentacle's work is that when there is a spirit within range they are coded to slam one time automatically on them. And then you can use w to make them slam again on the same target. It is a feature not a bug. The 4 slams is the bug from the runan's.
well it slams 1 time before lvl 7 after lvl 7 tentacles slam 2 times . Not many people knows that
@@vejderairon994 those 2 slams happen bcs if the spirit is in range of tentacles it hits again after i think 4 sec. it is written on E spell
So the runans is still bugged just not quite to the extent zwag thought
Bug? What bug? Everything is a feature, no bugs
Ah yes, Illaoi can slam 69 times, that's a feature, not a bug. Btw we nerfed Xerath - Riot probably
Props to the teammates. The hardest part of playing Illoai is having a team that can follow up. Lost a ton of games where I crushed the enemy team all game but my team didn't know how to get anything on the map from it.
Playing with Illoai 101:
If they send 2+ top, take a team fight at an advantage, win, take an objective
If they send 0-1 top, stall the enemy team so Illoai wins top fight and pushes
Pro strat, once Illoai gets near inhib they'll almost always send 4, or 2+ their most fed champs. Let Illoai bait them into a chase while you bush cheese, then collapse on them
Strats to win against Illaoi:
If she misses e, and isn't near wall tentacles punish her
If she ults, run away until the tentacles clear. You've got around 50-60 seconds before next ult
DO NOT go in 1 by 1, always attack together to burst through her healing
Ah yes, the classic Tentakill!
My flash R at 22:34 was the only play I made all game lol. GG Zwag
Bro said this for no other reason than to let us know he was in that game Lmao
@rlsson4290 lmaoooo, if it was a somewhat good play. bro walked like 3 seconds behind zwag just to ult him 3cm to take 1 turret shot and die xd
Well played
@@noahkarlsson4290 This is correct :D
@@Shadhun98 Most damage I did the whole game lol
To give you a background about Illaoi's kit, her tentacles slam scales with attack speed, it slams much faster. When you pull a spirit, nearby tentacles automatically slams it. That's why it's better to use your E then ult, so that you can get that automatic slam.
At 15:00 min it was supposed to slam twice. Even without Runaans
Tentacles automaticly hit souls in an certain interval. No W needed
thank you lol, idk why he didn’t know that already
It only attacks automatically after the copy from E dies. Only automatically attacks that target of her E. Aside that...only W activates the tentacles.
@@thanatos8618tentacles will automatically hit the soul every few seconds. Then, if the soul dies or the target gets out of range, it will automatically hit the champion itself every few seconds until the curse is over.
no@@thanatos8618
For those why the tentacles slams multiple times is cause of runaan...
Illaoi 2nd skill is a auto attack ability which means if there are multiple target in the area with a tentacle on it a single W can trigger the effect around to those who got hit by runaan .
6:15 the realisation 😂😂😂
Fun little trick: use your e if people open with cc. You are stunned in animation.
And illaoi ult can negate cc. Even morde ult if you time it properly
Nice
What? How?
This is why ILLAOI is one of the champions I despite as a jungler. Absolutely a pain to gank and often win/dominate her lane. She has 1 vs 2, 3, 4, 5 potential even when she's feeding. Tanky, high sustain, huge diversified dmg, AoE.
i think if you auto then w when your runaans is in air it will trigger the double/triple slam? thats what it looked like @17:09
“Too many tentacles” sounds like a family drama about alien life.
“Who’s dealing the most?” *tower flexing*
Tentacles auto target pulled souls so yes it should slam twice when w is used, soul also counts as a champion for ult and healing purposes so it's recommended you E before you ult for max tentacles and slam time while in animation, and if the target leaves the area or the soul is defeated then tentacles target the champ. OH and ult makes all tentacles slam faster, shortens cool down on w, and makes it so tentacles are both invisible and don't show there slam area
TLDR E before R and yes it should work how it dose DW about it
"building runaan's first is never a good idea" I disagree. ARAM is perfectly valid use of first item hurricane on a handful of champions.
27:54 - When you say the EXACT same thing as the YT-er, you know this shit is ridiculous 😂😂🤣🤣
All I could say is "OMG"
Zwag: Who's really gonna build a Runan's on illaoi??
Me: Everyone after they've seen this video! xD lol
"TENTakill" -- Zwag and friend's boy band name. Featuring songs like "Too Many Tentacles", "No, Maiii Cannon", "I Could Have Flashed, But...", and "The Real Zwig Zwagmo"
Post game SC2 music, perfect soundtrack for tentakills
whos throwing toothpicks at me? hahha dude
You did video on illaoi with runaan so i'm happy thx you can't wait the next 😊🎉
I remember Mordekaiser when Rito decided to make him bot lane carry and gave him weird magnetic thingy.
When he was close to paired ally they both were doing AoE damage.
OMG Tenta-Kill WP that was funny. Cool word play too :) I love your humor
You should do a vid where you duo Illaoi with Karthus. His ult hits both the champ and the tentacled clone, lets you 1-shot them, after she grabs, with his ult super early if he gets fed. 😂
Does runaans also affect the tentacle spawn on illaoi's passive? look here at 17:43
Shyvana with runaans sounds really strong now - rageblade may proc q reset allowing you to spam the double hit. It also sounds strong for proccing heartsteelcas the radius is 300, and I wonder if it procs sundered sky
@zwag her ult will make tentacles invulnerable within a certain range of illaoi. And the tentacles will slam at 50 percent speed at the spirited champion as long as you are in range. Fun video!
Zwag: "come on and slam" announcer: "Quadra kill"
vi with runaan's does it apply her shied break to multi targets? AD/AS vi super bruiser!
i love how at 10:30 minecraft music just started
Does pbe runaans affect yasuos and yones q?
Fizz w?
Taric passive?
The aTaric passive could be interesting, maybe runnan autos reducing taric skill CD
Could you try: Illaoi, with Grasp. Iceborn> riftmaker>Sunderer then just kinda pick your poison on last 2. I tried with steraks and cleaver. Shojinn might be better than steraks if you get fed early. but cleaver seems to be a must since the ap on passive is turned to physical damage. TY, Sir! love your stuff.
Day 252 asking for a gnar video
As soon as I saying was underwhelming, Zwag figures out how to make the double slam happen (assuming the Quadra slam is related). Never doubt the Wizard himself
Zwag’s warding habits hurt me
How do you build runins on a melee champ? The game doesnt allow melee to build it
In pbe riot temporarily allowed it I believe. But I didn't think it's there anymore
whenever i like to play Illaoi i call it "The Slappening!"
Dunno if it works but i'd like to see if ruunan bolts can be empowered by Nasus q and Stack passively targets other than the initial hit
i'd love to see a runnan's udyr to see if the bolts proc the enhanced autos of his bear form
It does. Same as Volibear
Lmao I saw this yesterday and was like man if only zwag would make a video on it.
I think the multiple slams working and not is due W being a dash/leap. SO if W moves you even just 1 unit it counts a dash and runanns interaction gets canceled, just like it doesnt work on Smolder and Akshan E's. Probobly due to being this way multiple hacarim E knockbacks would NOT work.
I love Illaoi videos
o rly
Watching pantheon play against Illaoi hurt my soul as a pantheon main
Gotta love Zwags custom game content where enemies are just wood4 rank feeding him :/
Need a video of Olaf the Unbroken using this
there was an armor item that boosted life steal that was really good on her. I can't remember what it's called as I have played in years.
15:05 the reason it hit twice is because the tentacle slams the soul when you pull it
can you play on hecarim?
Yeah it happens thanks to a interaction bug or lets say thanks to a wired bit of coding where the Slam is triggerd as a onhit effect but the "buff" of activating W is cleard after the animation. So when the bolds from Runans are mid air and you activate W you gain Slamonhit that are triggert with the Bolts but the buff is not cleard since the animation is not yet finished. At least that would be my guess.
I don't think that's it. Illaoi auto attack speed is not enough for that, and it would work for range champs. I think it's a simple case of w being coded as an auto attack effect when used as an auto (this is a bit obscure, but illaoi's w can either be a spell or an auto based on the range you attack from). So when used w as an auto, I think what happens is that runnans trigger and duplicate the effect.
@@mufurrIf they would multiply the effect of the W then the slam would multitrigger on singel use of W what it don't look to do. It only seams to trigger if you Auto atack first. And ther is multiple points in the Video where you see that the slam is first triggert on a target hit by the Bolt before going for the original W target. If it whre a On attack and not On hit effect Runans would do nothing. But this give me to wonder if Rageblade would work if you would use W on the second attack but I am not sure enough if both "onhits" come down in the same game tick or if ther is a slight delay and it would not work.
@@radircs9978 yeah I looked in more details it seems like you're right
I was out and about when I posted this comment but I guess it never went through!
“Did Zwag get the first 6 CS?”
No, he missed a melee minion
Lose Streak: 1
I thought at one point you considered playing games outside of league and uploading them. I’d love to see you play lethal company or helldivers 2
Please try it with Malz's voidlings. It should work somehow
6:45 tentacle did damage while panth is facing the tentacle but illaoi's on panths back
So in the practice tool, you can't buy it because it's locked. You must be a ranged champ to use it. How did you get around that?
It was hot fixed.
Omg! I'm wondering if you can do this trick on Volis W (applying Wounded on 2 other targets and also biting 3 targets) and his Q (stunning 3 targets).
....does blitz e knock up multiple targets?
Pantheon throws toothpick at me! Tristana shoots grapes at me!
These comments are hilarious 😂
Yes; it's only the tentacles being spawned from the ult that are untargetable for 8 seconds.
Is it live?
no, PBE
yo @Zwag can you try it with Rek'sai?
I'm the madman who loves going NQB on Illaoi and crit illaoi slaps. I'd love to try Runaan's with Experimental hexplate and a hydra item
you gotta make it to the 28 min mark for the great pun of tentikill, worth it.
Since Runaan can make the tentacles slam up to 4 times, and phantom hit from Rageblade applies on-hit effect twice....do you think you can make them slam up to 8 times with both these items ?
Why cant I use the Runaans? I tried Tryndamere last night and it kept telling me it was for ranged champs only?
Its PBE
Sounds like your next GM/Challenger climb should be illaoi 👀
Congratz on the Tentakill
Funny how i Just realized the starcraft music after game 😆
i was wondering if pantheon generates 3 spell stack with the runaan when he do an auto attack
Does Runaans work on Nasus?
"Come on and slam" 😂😂😂
Not zwag not thanking the kat for the penta
I'm thinking runnans on trundle. BotR, ravenous hydra, hullbreaker, and wits end
I feel like we need to find that Kat and everyone everywhere give them $1.
me when zwag does not e first before ulting: 😭
I tried the hurricane on braum but they blocked melee champs from building it. :(
This is new to the PBE so might come to live at a later date
In this video, the enemy team got all the grubs but got no tower bounty.
zwag proxying the nexus
naaaah 17:46 is wild 😂😂😂
riot after watch this video : i think i made a disaster for top lane
would nasus get triple stacks with ruunan?
this is the best league player out there
you have to auto then W afterwards to make it slam multiple times
He knows he said it in the video
It has nothing to do with the auto. It has to deal with being close enough to not have the slam do the gap close. If it does the small dash it wont happen. And you get up to 3 slams depending on how many targets are around. Illaoi has always been this way it is just not reliable.
@@zvat4788 Ah okay well I didn't hear it so that's why I said that.
@@chazharrison9760 gotcha
why dose the shop tell me that the ruins hurricane is only for range champs and i cant buy it
Because it's on the pbe not live serveur
At 14:55 it was supposed to hit 2 times, because when you use the e the tantacl hit automatic the soul for one time. So After the first hit because of the e it hit again because of your W.
Ah, tentacles. C'mon and SLAM, and welcome to JAPAN.
I don't know how you beat Yorick in top lane now. He's so overtuned at the moment that it just feels like no one can lane against him. Hitting E is the easiest skillshot in the game currently, and the ghouls melt everything for no effort. At least hitting Illaoi E requires some braincells to hit consistently.
Bro e automatically makes the things slam and you press w as well
I tested it against morde and it helps a lot in his ult if land e
Ap blitzcrank next vid
Pantheon and Gwen should be good for another runaan build 😂
Based Katarina, giving the Penta.
It would slam twice because you pulled the soul
Nice Tentakill!
18:40 "maybe i'll go sterak's and then i'll get some tenacity"
ZWAG, STERAK'S NOW GRANT 20% TENACITY
that's... what he said
Viego can kill Viego and become Viego? XD It should be illegal. It's almost like you dress up as yourself at the Halloween! XD
How was there even two viegos, I was confused the whole video. Is this not solo queue?
PBE
@@noahkarlsson4290 Custom game with viewers, I guess.
When u hit an E during a clash, its not that important to focus it. Focus all your damage to champions instead since they're near u already. U can actually see the difference when enemy viego ganked u, ur too scared to use E since youre out of mana but bam double kill. It also shows on some of the clash as well :)
Can you play Wukong please? Not enough content vids with Wukong
How about sett runaan?