Hi mate, a wee question as to how far you should lift, I usually just have my pecs clear, but I can pull up so it's kinda the bottom of my ribs that are last bit touching the board ? Tho that starts my lower back aching... basically can you lift/bend to far Thanks for the vids btw, nice t see a bit sun! From Scotland
How do you prevent pain from your rib bones when they're jammed into the board while activating erected banana for an extended time period? Am I doing something wrong? Thank you for another great video!
I stroke and stroke but I can't seem to activate my banana. It's embarrassing. I don't think I'll ever get to ride a tube without a good banana. What can I do?
My dad is taking me surfing for the first time this Monday. He used to surf before he was an alcoholic but now that’s he’s been sober I can finally spend time with him! Thanks for the tutorials!
I know it was a long time ago but, how was your first time?? I stopped practicing for 1 year and came back recently... Let me tell you it felt like the first time. I got tired really fast, only got 1 wave.
Been surfing for 18 years n this video is absolutely on point. Any advise I could give is just keep doing it, aim for 3 times a week minimum, very hard to gain strength otherwise
Anyone planning to take beginner surf lessons should start swimming Australian Crawl - head up freestyle - for several weeks before their vacation so they don't get tired and sore on the first day of paddling. You'll get way more out of the lessons if you're prepared with both the strength/endurance for paddling and the banana arch posture.
when I swim, I'm lazy to bring goggles, and most people have high Claudine concentration. so I keep my head above the water for my eyes, im already used to this, and it really does help.
Kale is a fantastic communicator, both professional and fun at the same time. And importantly he takes away some of the fear that newbies often have. His practical exercises that relate to improvement in technique are crystal clear.
You missed a few points. As someone said the chin down before standing is one. The other biggy is legs together. Thirdly nose of the board just above the water. Love your vlogs. Cheers.
@@MMABeijing The most important principle is efficiency or minimal drag. Don't drag your legs or your arms. The bottom of the board should be as horizontal as possible without spearing the nose into the water.
Sorry I'm about a year late! But one all-around workout that is excellent and extremely beneficial when you're out in the water are deadlifts. Deadlifts work every muscle in your body - ESPECIALLY the erector muscles in the back. Deadlifts may seem intimidating for some but don't be! Start with just the bar, then slowly add more weight as your body gets used to it. I should also add, one doesn't need to lift heavy weights in order to be a good surfer, the more time you spend out in the water - the more you work and build up the primary muscles used for surfing!
Thank you for this video .... I have been surfing most of my life .except the last 3 to 4 years . I have been fighting a rear abnormal protein Disease. Amaladosa Al . I have been on chemo. Every week for 3 years . And I lost my back mussels for paddling.. I went out surfing for the first time last week in 3 years .at HB and upper Tressles. It was a junkie small day but that is OK I just needed to get back in the water . But I was so frustrated. I know what I want to do but my body would not let me . I felt like a Beginner. My paddling was pore and I didn't catch one wave . This video will be a big help to get back in shape. Please keep making your videos . Have a great surf session. Keep surfing !!!!!!
Great info bro, just started getting back into it after 11 years of no surf I'm back to basic thought I still had it in me but I'll get there and re-train my muscle memory. cheers thanks
this was so useful!!! I'm just starting and was scared of how much my neck and bad shoulder ached from my first paddling! luckily I've seen this video and the next time: sooo much better!! I teach yoga and yet didn't realize how much high you have to go into cobra pose for paddling better and pain-free! in this position there is actually little to no stress for the rotator cuffs in the shoulder. thankyouthankyouthankyou!!
This is a beautifully executioned video mate. Shout out from Orange County 🍊 California. I'm 30 years old, barely getting into surfing. And I find it a bit hard for myself, since I'm a bit a of an overweight bloke. 235 lbs. So my buoyancy isn't that great. I'm not giving up though. The sensation of being in the water, seeing the sunrise while being on my board, and catching the white water. Is amazing!!!
if you don't mind me adding. I believe the head up (banana) also gets you to lay up towards the front of the board just enough to get the nose under the water. when you get in the banana position, your weight goes back towards your knees and brings the nose up a little and gets you planing better across the water. body position in the board is kinda the most important thing
Thanks Kale! I’ve been surfing for years but I still have trouble taking off and don’t catch many waves. After just watching your videos, I have progressed more this past week than years!
Hi Guys, I've been surfing for around 55 years. This past decade I've had 2 Lumbar (lower back) surgeries and I had my second Cervical (neck) fusion a month ago. I'm looking forward to getting back into the water in several months, this summer, when the water warms up. I'm not sure if I've have so many spinal problems due to poor techniques in paddling, etc. or just years of bad judgement on pulling in on too many closeouts. Many sessions my best waves are the ones I didn't think I could make.....Anyway, I enjoy your tips and I'm looking forward to many more years of short boarding. Your point of getting a long board our through the surf is very true. I'll stick with duck diving a short board. Aloha !
I have two discs L-3&4 that are pretty much gone. I just started surfing last year and I think it makes learning way more difficult. What surgery did u have on your lower back and what was the deciding factor to go ahead with it?
Long boards are very different across the board. I mean some are like guns that are just like duck diving a shortboard punching through. Then there is the turtle roll which works well, every longboarder should practice it along with controlling the longboard after with retracting the leash quickly if you loose your board that way you don't tie up the lineup. Huge difference between a 10'8 old school heavy tanker and a 8'8 firewire...
forgot an important point about the "banana" stance - it moves the center of mass toward the back of the board, improving planing and raising the nose, keeping it out of the water which will bog you down.
Your videos are dope, I didn't need the advice technique wise but it did remind me as i seem to constantly forget that where i live is fickle at best and without warning it can turn on world class...the first 2 years i was here i got caught in sub optimal shape when the serious days came through this year..... I'm not on shape im gonna go paddle my ass out to the reef tomorrow and 3 days a week until the day comes... there is a wave here that is truly world class but maybe happens twice a year and is seriously life threatening high consequence. That couple with a complete lack of EMS and medical infrastructure make it no joke...thats been my excuse the last couple of years that and no one else is down for it like i keep telling myself i am... im calling it march or April its going to happen and im going to be ready to sit behind that peak and be the first person to backdoor and slay that monster to do so my banana will need to be rock hard...ok I'm done
@@lucaguarro6116 after watching the video it took like 30 minutes. Lol. I was stiff and it kept me throwing me off balance. Once I’ve learn to stay relax everything was flowing 😂
The moment of realization at 5:12....parents came up asking why I was laughing so hard and if everything was okay; awesome video tho! Just starting out here and this helps a lot! Thanks dudes!
May I add that activating the banana also opens up the subacromial space which means the rotator cuff (small shoulder muscles) can work more efficiently while also reducing the risk of an overuse injury :D
great video. helped me tune up my paddling. i never realized how important being upright was and always thought it was just personal preference. so for the most part ive been paddling too low on my board. i tried this method today as well as focusing on reaching further back on my board for the popup and holy shit.. what a difference. i basically eliminated the percentage of waves where i had bad foot placement. ripped every wave the whole session. it certainly helped that the lineup was empty! this foot placement thing has been plaguing me for a while now whenever i surf boards that are smaller than 6', so thanks sooo much for these videos :)
This video is actually perfect for me and I'm gonna try it for sure. Since the beginning I always was struggling with my paddling. Recently I came back to surfing and I couldn't paddle back to the spot when I got my first wave, my arms, back and shoulders where exhausted. The thing is that I do excersise more than the average persons.
"Erect banana". Ill use that next time i talk to wahine. Lol! It would be good to talk about the chin down power paddling when you need to get the nose down. I think the erect banana is good when the waves are hollow and pitchy, but sometimes you need to put your chin down to paddle hard when the wave is mushy. Beginners also tend to paddle with their legs splayed open. Knees should be close together and thighs on the board. Spreading your legs allows the tail to lift up and causes nose dives. Dont split the erect banana, lol!
When paddling for longer surf sessions to keep from tiring the muscles it helps to use the S stroke. The S stroke (and slightly open fingers) works like this. Hand engages water, push water slightly away and then back towards surfboard, and then away from board. Any variation of S-stroke works. As hand leaves water you can flick your wrist to bring arm forward faster for next stroke. This will use many different muscles groups so one group gets a break while using other groups of muscles. Try it! With each stroke you''ll get more forward movement and arms do not tire as quickly. 45 years surfing.
Good vid. My paddling is powerful enough but raising your shoulders and head makes a massive difference. My lower back is pretty screwed but defo gonna try these exercises. Thanks 👍
Any advice on how to avoid ribcage pain? Not referring to skin bruises, but actual pain in the lower part of the ribcage as a result of paddling. Thank you for this and for the amazing video :)
I injured my shoulder paddling. Hi, I'm a new surfer. I'm 21 5'10 and 170 pounds lean build. I haven't been surfing too long, just on and off the last month. And randomly last week I got bad shoulder pain, and hurt to lift it or lift anything. I believe I got what's called Surfers or swimmers shoulder. I watched this video before learning to surf and I guess I'm doing something wrong. A friend of mine thinks I'm not activating my back maybe enough and relying on my shoulders too much. Any thoughts are welcome, I want to continue to learn to surf, but I don't want to get injured and be inactive again. Especially cause that's all I am during this quarantine. ( My shoulder feels better now but I'm not sure when I could start using it again).
Very much enjoy your videos mate, would like to see something about how to read the sea or the ocean, what are your trick or tips for wave selection on a set and so on... Thank you again.
A common beginner mistake is paddling with the nose of the board sticking up super high. It’s impossible to get any speed or movement this way. To successfully paddle you need correct body positioning on the board. You want to lay down in a position so the nose is just above the water. If the nose is too high or too low it severely limits your ability to move.
I have had to work on my paddling a lot. One important tip i got is you paddle with your arms and not your hands. Dig those arms in deep, dont skim the water just dipping your hands. Your arms have a lot of surface area.
Hi, you are only the second person I've seen talk about cup hands or loose. The other was an Olympic swimmer. The minor amount of water passing through fingers is nothing compared to drive gain from increase in area. Like with kayaks a large amount of rocker pushing water is a problem. I find when on my 9 foot when faced with big wave I don't even try to dive , I hold on and roll so when water flows over the bottom which is now on top the wave pushes the board down.. I must admit I'm no laird Hamilton but I have fun and enjoy.
Hi, when i activate that banana position i get quite some pain/irritated feeling in my lower back, is this normal for beginner surfers? or am i kinda injured? great vid.
Thanks, that was really helpful. Can you show us how to turn left and right? When I river surfed at the Vague a Guy river rapid bunny wave, firstly, I could not stay on my surf board due to the rapids and 2, I could not paddle fast and my back hurt. Had to take Advil for a week. One day I will get a real surf in a real ocean, but due to Covid, I have no choice but try to practice in my city🙏🇨🇦🌈🌎🦋🌺🏄♀️
gonna try everything in this hahaha, my banana is week when i arch my back, i need more arch, hopefully the steps in this vid will help me, thanks for the vid ;P
I just want to know what to do when caught in the impact zone by a head high++ set. How to survive. What action to take to avoid getting roughed up or worse. I hate paddling out and usually end up ditching my board and swimming for it and getting dragged back by the leash.
Question: Is proper form during the stroke require a slightly open hand as it makes contact with the water, followed by a backwards S out front on to the sides of ones surfboard?? Being a successful competitive swimmer at a younger age (8 till about 17 +....I am 40 years old now) I was baffled as to why my surfing/wave paddling was so inferior to other, smaller surfers in the water. I'm a pretty big guy at 6' 3" - 225lbs, so I just assumed I wasnt agile enough. Also note: I've been surfing for 25+ years and it just never occurred to me how different the fundamentals are 😬😔. Prior to your tutorial, I was always paddling with these, long-reaching stretch like strokes, ("stretch, and reach for the apple" as my swim coach would yell while doing warm up laps.) I was also stroking with a wide arch under my board, doing a pulling forward like motion with my hands cupped. (I am embarrassed to admit that regardless of my wave riding ability, I clearly and arrogantly didn't know wtf I was doing) SO, ...sincerely mate, THANK YOU for the essential's and breakdown with proper form, "BANANA," and open hand stroking, New knowledge.... (Promise 🙏🏽 no pun was intended🥴) Btw...Top notch tutorial my man! I'm a fan. These tips have made a SIGNIFICANT difference in the line up, as I get twice as many waves during my sessions now, ....and with considerably less effort. Thx, Dyl
Question about longer, long-boards. How come when catching larger waves one seems to need to flick their legs up right at that moment before you know you got it, to catch it? 'Before pop up' Stronger paddling, deeper paddling, s-paddling doesn't help, just makes one ride the top of it longer before missing it. Don't have this problem with boards under 8'6". :T Setup: 9'8" Pintail, 8.5" Truemes classic center w/3.5" Truemes side bites.
Hi. At 4 minutes into the video, how do you spin around a board like that? It looks effortless. I do a lot of frantic things to swivel the board around. I miss the wave if i am unable to turn around in time. Also could you please make a video on the cork effect on shortboard? The one i see surfers doing to catch a wave with just one or two stroke. Thank you.
To spin the board around, just move your legs in a circular motion, clockwise to turn left, ccw to turn right. Kale's got a tiny board so it will spin fast anyway, if you've got a bigger board you have to pull the nose up so it is almost vertical in the water. Since you already know about the cork effect, there's not much more to explain. You just need to get the timing right, and it takes a lot of practice. If you want to catch a wave using just 2 strokes, you need to be in exactly the right spot on the wave. Again this is not something you can be taught, you just need a lot of experience. If you see surfers catching a lot of waves easily, observe where they position themselves (probably right under the lip). If you're in a spot where you are not sure if you're gonna catch the wave on your head, you're near the perfect spot. You learn a lot faster if you are a little too far on the inside and eat shit than sitting too far on the outside and miss waves because of it.
@@iKillborn2kilNOE yeah the rotation thing might become a video (together with sitting on the board, as it is a challenge for many beginners). the cork thing could be added to that same video but would not work as a stand-alone vid.
Another thing that can help is getting farther back so you can get the nose out of the water and reduce the moment arm of the portions of the board that are in the water resisting your rotation. It's harder to notice in this video since the board is so small, but practicing on a longboard will make the position change more obvious.Practice sitting in the center (as if when waiting for waves) the scooting way back before you begin the rotation.
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Had a blast activating my banana for this video guys!! 😁🤣
Hi mate, a wee question as to how far you should lift, I usually just have my pecs clear, but I can pull up so it's kinda the bottom of my ribs that are last bit touching the board ? Tho that starts my lower back aching... basically can you lift/bend to far
Thanks for the vids btw, nice t see a bit sun! From
Scotland
How do you prevent pain from your rib bones when they're jammed into the board while activating erected banana for an extended time period? Am I doing something wrong? Thank you for another great video!
Search this on youtube: VADER retired PADDLE boarding on LA RIVER (Narrated by Jones Earl James) - S2E1 The River Wild full
I stroke and stroke but I can't seem to activate my banana. It's embarrassing. I don't think I'll ever get to ride a tube without a good banana. What can I do?
My dad is taking me surfing for the first time this Monday. He used to surf before he was an alcoholic but now that’s he’s been sober I can finally spend time with him! Thanks for the tutorials!
cherish the moments,
Anastyzia Journeys sorry mate that is bad news
She said her Dad is sober and taking her surfing. What’s the bad news you are talking about? Be kind
I know it was a long time ago but, how was your first time?? I stopped practicing for 1 year and came back recently... Let me tell you it felt like the first time. I got tired really fast, only got 1 wave.
God bless
Been surfing for 18 years n this video is absolutely on point. Any advise I could give is just keep doing it, aim for 3 times a week minimum, very hard to gain strength otherwise
Anyone planning to take beginner surf lessons should start swimming Australian Crawl - head up freestyle - for several weeks before their vacation so they don't get tired and sore on the first day of paddling. You'll get way more out of the lessons if you're prepared with both the strength/endurance for paddling and the banana arch posture.
when I swim, I'm lazy to bring goggles, and most people have high Claudine concentration. so I keep my head above the water for my eyes, im already used to this, and it really does help.
Kale is a fantastic communicator, both professional and fun at the same time. And importantly he takes away some of the fear that newbies often have. His practical exercises that relate to improvement in technique are crystal clear.
your paddling video is why i have more success popping up now. i found out i wasnt moving fast enough.
You missed a few points. As someone said the chin down before standing is one. The other biggy is legs together. Thirdly nose of the board just above the water.
Love your vlogs. Cheers.
We did do a legs part but it was forgotten in edit
what do you mean? the head should not be in the center of the board, but rather close/over the water to minimize strain on the cervical spine?
I have had a neck injury, so what you are saying is striking a chord, I just want ot make sure that I am not projecting my own hopes. thank you
@@MMABeijing The most important principle is efficiency or minimal drag. Don't drag your legs or your arms. The bottom of the board should be as horizontal as possible without spearing the nose into the water.
@@Hotwire_RCTrix oh I see, thank you
I'm new at surfing and would love to see more exercises to build strength. Love the videos that I've seen so far!
Okay :)
100 pushups every hour 10+x a day
Are you super human?
Sorry I'm about a year late! But one all-around workout that is excellent and extremely beneficial when you're out in the water are deadlifts. Deadlifts work every muscle in your body - ESPECIALLY the erector muscles in the back. Deadlifts may seem intimidating for some but don't be! Start with just the bar, then slowly add more weight as your body gets used to it.
I should also add, one doesn't need to lift heavy weights in order to be a good surfer, the more time you spend out in the water - the more you work and build up the primary muscles used for surfing!
Just tried this out after watching your video, made a huge difference. Keep up the videos, they're great!!!
Codify Academy awesome to hear
Thank you for this video ....
I have been surfing most of my life .except the last 3 to 4 years .
I have been fighting a rear abnormal protein Disease.
Amaladosa Al . I have been on chemo. Every week for 3 years .
And I lost my back mussels for paddling..
I went out surfing for the first time last week in 3 years .at HB and upper Tressles.
It was a junkie small day but that is OK I just needed to get back in the water .
But I was so frustrated. I know what I want to do but my body would not let me .
I felt like a Beginner.
My paddling was pore and I didn't catch one wave .
This video will be a big help to get back in shape.
Please keep making your videos .
Have a great surf session.
Keep surfing !!!!!!
Great info bro, just started getting back into it after 11 years of no surf I'm back to basic thought I still had it in me but I'll get there and re-train my muscle memory. cheers thanks
I I have now been surfing two times a week during quarantine and your videos have helped a lot thanks
this was so useful!!! I'm just starting and was scared of how much my neck and bad shoulder ached from my first paddling! luckily I've seen this video and the next time: sooo much better!! I teach yoga and yet didn't realize how much high you have to go into cobra pose for paddling better and pain-free! in this position there is actually little to no stress for the rotator cuffs in the shoulder. thankyouthankyouthankyou!!
😁😁🙏🏽🙏🏽
Total game changer hey :)
This is a beautifully executioned video mate.
Shout out from Orange County 🍊 California.
I'm 30 years old, barely getting into surfing. And I find it a bit hard for myself, since I'm a bit a of an overweight bloke. 235 lbs.
So my buoyancy isn't that great.
I'm not giving up though. The sensation of being in the water, seeing the sunrise while being on my board, and catching the white water. Is amazing!!!
if you don't mind me adding. I believe the head up (banana) also gets you to lay up towards the front of the board just enough to get the nose under the water. when you get in the banana position, your weight goes back towards your knees and brings the nose up a little and gets you planing better across the water. body position in the board is kinda the most important thing
Paul Murray yep
Thanks Kale! I’ve been surfing for years but I still have trouble taking off and don’t catch many waves. After just watching your videos, I have progressed more this past week than years!
Hi Guys, I've been surfing for around 55 years. This past decade I've had 2 Lumbar (lower back) surgeries and I had my second Cervical (neck) fusion a month ago. I'm looking forward to getting back into the water in several months, this summer, when the water warms up. I'm not sure if I've have so many spinal problems due to poor techniques in paddling, etc. or just years of bad judgement on pulling in on too many closeouts. Many sessions my best waves are the ones I didn't think I could make.....Anyway, I enjoy your tips and I'm looking forward to many more years of short boarding. Your point of getting a long board our through the surf is very true. I'll stick with duck diving a short board. Aloha !
DOlson8844 hope you’re back ripping soon!
I have two discs L-3&4 that are pretty much gone. I just started surfing last year and I think it makes learning way more difficult. What surgery did u have on your lower back and what was the deciding factor to go ahead with it?
Long boards are very different across the board. I mean some are like guns that are just like duck diving a shortboard punching through. Then there is the turtle roll which works well, every longboarder should practice it along with controlling the longboard after with retracting the leash quickly if you loose your board that way you don't tie up the lineup. Huge difference between a 10'8 old school heavy tanker and a 8'8 firewire...
forgot an important point about the "banana" stance - it moves the center of mass toward the back of the board, improving planing and raising the nose, keeping it out of the water which will bog you down.
Your videos are dope, I didn't need the advice technique wise but it did remind me as i seem to constantly forget that where i live is fickle at best and without warning it can turn on world class...the first 2 years i was here i got caught in sub optimal shape when the serious days came through this year..... I'm not on shape im gonna go paddle my ass out to the reef tomorrow and 3 days a week until the day comes... there is a wave here that is truly world class but maybe happens twice a year and is seriously life threatening high consequence. That couple with a complete lack of EMS and medical infrastructure make it no joke...thats been my excuse the last couple of years that and no one else is down for it like i keep telling myself i am... im calling it march or April its going to happen and im going to be ready to sit behind that peak and be the first person to backdoor and slay that monster to do so my banana will need to be rock hard...ok I'm done
My ass kept fallen off my board so I’m watching this video now 😂
Lmao 😂 you got this 🤙
@@emma-nd2ey I got it now. Hehe. 🤙🏼
@@dannggg 😅🤙
@@dannggg how long did it take you?
@@lucaguarro6116 after watching the video it took like 30 minutes. Lol. I was stiff and it kept me throwing me off balance. Once I’ve learn to stay relax everything was flowing 😂
I've been surfing for quite a few years, but still learned something new here. Good stuff!
Fanks :)
Arie-Lex Touwe epic yeah it’s a game changer
I’m a beach lifeguard and your tips are amazing !
The moment of realization at 5:12....parents came up asking why I was laughing so hard and if everything was okay; awesome video tho! Just starting out here and this helps a lot! Thanks dudes!
Aalap Patel haha awesome
What an in depth and wonderful video! Thank you!
May I add that activating the banana also opens up the subacromial space which means the rotator cuff (small shoulder muscles) can work more efficiently while also reducing the risk of an overuse injury :D
Thank you!!!
doudogg activating the banana definitely does that
great video. helped me tune up my paddling. i never realized how important being upright was and always thought it was just personal preference. so for the most part ive been paddling too low on my board. i tried this method today as well as focusing on reaching further back on my board for the popup and holy shit.. what a difference. i basically eliminated the percentage of waves where i had bad foot placement. ripped every wave the whole session. it certainly helped that the lineup was empty! this foot placement thing has been plaguing me for a while now whenever i surf boards that are smaller than 6', so thanks sooo much for these videos :)
crs m that’s great news 😁
This video is actually perfect for me and I'm gonna try it for sure. Since the beginning I always was struggling with my paddling. Recently I came back to surfing and I couldn't paddle back to the spot when I got my first wave, my arms, back and shoulders where exhausted. The thing is that I do excersise more than the average persons.
This has made the biggest improvement for me in years! Thanks so much!
such a helpful video... I've been paddling in the "anti-banana" my entire life without realizing it.
Awsum thanks for that, coming back in at 62years and using the technique to get body fit, rock on sunmmer!
Thanks! New to surfing here and this helped a lot!!
Well done bro! Highly informative and entertaining to boot xD I appreciate the great advice :)
Richard Lee thanks Richard 😁😁
All of your vids are so helpful, appreciate the work you put in
Thanks brother :) Loads more coming on my personal channel here over the next 12 months :)
Great video! I'm going to yell, GREAT BANANA when I see a someone paddling well at my local break.
Ben Lawrence I always love bananas
Omg 😂😂😂 that's amazing, what did they say/ do when you said that lmao 😂
What an amazing video. I've been trying to find ways to help improve my paddling when I'm not near the ocean. Thanks.
Kales, can you make a show about sunscreens, and which ones are your favourites? Thank you.
"Erect banana". Ill use that next time i talk to wahine. Lol!
It would be good to talk about the chin down power paddling when you need to get the nose down. I think the erect banana is good when the waves are hollow and pitchy, but sometimes you need to put your chin down to paddle hard when the wave is mushy.
Beginners also tend to paddle with their legs splayed open. Knees should be close together and thighs on the board. Spreading your legs allows the tail to lift up and causes nose dives. Dont split the erect banana, lol!
Thank you so much! Definitely helped me a lot
Thank for this comment
When paddling for longer surf sessions to keep from tiring the muscles it helps to use the S stroke.
The S stroke (and slightly open fingers) works like this. Hand engages water, push water slightly away and then back towards surfboard, and then away from board. Any variation of S-stroke works. As hand leaves water you can flick your wrist to bring arm forward faster for next stroke. This will use many different muscles groups so one group gets a break while using other groups of muscles. Try it! With each stroke you''ll get more forward movement and arms do not tire as quickly. 45 years surfing.
Good vid. My paddling is powerful enough but raising your shoulders and head makes a massive difference. My lower back is pretty screwed but defo gonna try these exercises. Thanks 👍
Jason Temple the muscle activation should be more in the middle back not the lower - so it shouldn’t flare any injuries ideally if done correctly
Love it!! Great tips, been really struggling with paddling
You have really inspired me to learn this art.
Awesome! Just figured that banana thing today, was great to see this confirmation!
Eugene Suslo 🤙🏽🤙🏽
This video is so good!!! I'll be going for surfing next week! I'll definitely try these tips! Thanks!
Sitting here with ice on my neck wondering what i did wrong! 😂 Will be putting this into practice when im next out
D3l4br0 yeah do it!
Great video mate! Been going surfing every week now and struggling with the paddling.
Great job mate keep up the good work
Dream Catching thank you 😁
Any advice on how to avoid ribcage pain? Not referring to skin bruises, but actual pain in the lower part of the ribcage as a result of paddling. Thank you for this and for the amazing video :)
I can't explain how much the banana metaphor helped me
Great lesson and very funny as well!
Ben Wilson 🤓
New to surfing.. i need this, thank you!
I gotta say kales , amazingly helpful . Nice work . Subbed
Rolla Films thanks a bunch!! :)
muy buenos videos! se agradece thanks
Great thanks. Would like to see more dry land paddle exercises. I'm six months out of the water a year.
Alan Highton Swiss ball is your best friend
Ski machine is really good too. Its on one of Nathan Florence's vlogs
Interested in same tips. Thinking of some rubber bands workouts when I have to stay at home
Lmao!!! Awesome video man! Thanks! Love the realization of the “banana” posture!
Bullseye 276 😁😁😁
😅 “shit I made it worst” love the videos!! My husband and I are learning through your videos!! 🤙🏼 So.cali!
Great thanks for the "fruity" details and great tips!
Thanks for the chuckles.
Kim Perry 😁😁🥰🥰
Great video! as all of them. Please, could you depict how you move the arm underwater?
luisantoniod okay!
thank you for this!
Amazing! Thanks for your knowledge!
Beatriz Olivo thanks for watching
great video! found it very helpful! congrats from Italy!!!
Arrigo Bellone thank you :)
Corona time
I injured my shoulder paddling. Hi, I'm a new surfer. I'm 21 5'10 and 170 pounds lean build. I haven't been surfing too long, just on and off the last month. And randomly last week I got bad shoulder pain, and hurt to lift it or lift anything. I believe I got what's called Surfers or swimmers shoulder. I watched this video before learning to surf and I guess I'm doing something wrong. A friend of mine thinks I'm not activating my back maybe enough and relying on my shoulders too much.
Any thoughts are welcome, I want to continue to learn to surf, but I don't want to get injured and be inactive again. Especially cause that's all I am during this quarantine. ( My shoulder feels better now but I'm not sure when I could start using it again).
Very much enjoy your videos mate, would like to see something about how to read the sea or the ocean, what are your trick or tips for wave selection on a set and so on... Thank you again.
I laughed so much with the banana jokes XD
you didn't mention the position of your legs and feet in the paddling. should they (feet) be together; pointed out ; relaxed state?
A common beginner mistake is paddling with the nose of the board sticking up super high. It’s impossible to get any speed or movement this way. To successfully paddle you need correct body positioning on the board. You want to lay down in a position so the nose is just above the water. If the nose is too high or too low it severely limits your ability to move.
Most important move: learn to put on sunglasses smoothly while picking up your board 😎 Absolutely essential!
Hahaha it was so glary!!!
Thanks. My son joined the Nippers and doesn’t know how paddle
Excellent video, thank you 🤙
Someone gave me similar advice when I was a beginner. He told me my nipples should be up off the board, and it was really hard!
Great video, thank you!
3 mins holding that position is super hard mate. But I will try 1 min then 2 and gradually I will do 3
Good stuff!
fanks 🤓
Hi Noel, loving your reviews. What Size/L did you ride in the Phantom and what Size/L do you normally ride?
Great video
Good work. Thanks.
Amazing lesson, like always
Ivan Mendelson thank you
This helped a lot. Thanks for sharing
Brian Thompson thank you!
I have had to work on my paddling a lot. One important tip i got is you paddle with your arms and not your hands. Dig those arms in deep, dont skim the water just dipping your hands. Your arms have a lot of surface area.
Hi, you are only the second person I've seen talk about cup hands or loose. The other was an Olympic swimmer. The minor amount of water passing through fingers is nothing compared to drive gain from increase in area. Like with kayaks a large amount of rocker pushing water is a problem. I find when on my 9 foot when faced with big wave I don't even try to dive , I hold on and roll so when water flows over the bottom which is now on top the wave pushes the board down.. I must admit I'm no laird Hamilton but I have fun and enjoy.
Great film, could you show how to use a foam, high buoyancy board for absolute beginners please, cheers
Hi, when i activate that banana position i get quite some pain/irritated feeling in my lower back, is this normal for beginner surfers? or am i kinda injured? great vid.
Thanks, that was really helpful. Can you show us how to turn left and right? When I river surfed at the Vague a Guy river rapid bunny wave, firstly, I could not stay on my surf board due to the rapids and 2, I could not paddle fast and my back hurt. Had to take Advil for a week. One day I will get a real surf in a real ocean, but due to Covid, I have no choice but try to practice in my city🙏🇨🇦🌈🌎🦋🌺🏄♀️
Thank you! Subscribed! 🤙🏽
Theres Torren Martin from Needs Essential !
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gonna try everything in this hahaha, my banana is week when i arch my back, i need more arch, hopefully the steps in this vid will help me, thanks for the vid ;P
drift bunny yep make sure it comes from the middle back not the lower back
Great video!!!
great vid - could you please tell me the name of this pool? Thanks!
Banana muscles activated
I just want to know what to do when caught in the impact zone by a head high++ set. How to survive. What action to take to avoid getting roughed up or worse. I hate paddling out and usually end up ditching my board and swimming for it and getting dragged back by the leash.
missing australia! nice video, bro!
Cheers Kale ~ will search some of your fitness and training tips too
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ayyyee thats palmy, i go surfing there everyday!!!
Question: Is proper form during the stroke require a slightly open hand as it makes contact with the water, followed by a backwards S out front on to the sides of ones surfboard??
Being a successful competitive swimmer at a younger age (8 till about 17 +....I am 40 years old now) I was baffled as to why my surfing/wave paddling was so inferior to other, smaller surfers in the water. I'm a pretty big guy at 6' 3" - 225lbs, so I just assumed I wasnt agile enough. Also note: I've been surfing for 25+ years and it just never occurred to me how different the fundamentals are 😬😔. Prior to your tutorial, I was always paddling with these, long-reaching stretch like strokes, ("stretch, and reach for the apple" as my swim coach would yell while doing warm up laps.) I was also stroking with a wide arch under my board, doing a pulling forward like motion with my hands cupped. (I am embarrassed to admit that regardless of my wave riding ability, I clearly and arrogantly didn't know wtf I was doing)
SO, ...sincerely mate, THANK YOU for the essential's and breakdown with proper form, "BANANA," and open hand stroking, New knowledge.... (Promise 🙏🏽 no pun was intended🥴)
Btw...Top notch tutorial my man! I'm a fan. These tips have made a SIGNIFICANT difference in the line up, as I get twice as many waves during my sessions now, ....and with considerably less effort.
Thx,
Dyl
awesome mate! So good :) just try out different hand shapes and see how it goes for you :)
yes best cool helpful amazing
Question about longer, long-boards. How come when catching larger waves one seems to need to flick their legs up right at that moment before you know you got it, to catch it? 'Before pop up'
Stronger paddling, deeper paddling, s-paddling doesn't help, just makes one ride the top of it longer before missing it. Don't have this problem with boards under 8'6". :T
Setup: 9'8" Pintail, 8.5" Truemes classic center w/3.5" Truemes side bites.
Hi. At 4 minutes into the video, how do you spin around a board like that? It looks effortless. I do a lot of frantic things to swivel the board around. I miss the wave if i am unable to turn around in time. Also could you please make a video on the cork effect on shortboard? The one i see surfers doing to catch a wave with just one or two stroke. Thank you.
To spin the board around, just move your legs in a circular motion, clockwise to turn left, ccw to turn right. Kale's got a tiny board so it will spin fast anyway, if you've got a bigger board you have to pull the nose up so it is almost vertical in the water.
Since you already know about the cork effect, there's not much more to explain. You just need to get the timing right, and it takes a lot of practice. If you want to catch a wave using just 2 strokes, you need to be in exactly the right spot on the wave. Again this is not something you can be taught, you just need a lot of experience. If you see surfers catching a lot of waves easily, observe where they position themselves (probably right under the lip). If you're in a spot where you are not sure if you're gonna catch the wave on your head, you're near the perfect spot. You learn a lot faster if you are a little too far on the inside and eat shit than sitting too far on the outside and miss waves because of it.
@@robarnoldbik8014 looks like another video haha
Sitting, rotating, quick rotation, quick pedaling horizontally tho catch a wave
@@iKillborn2kilNOE yeah the rotation thing might become a video (together with sitting on the board, as it is a challenge for many beginners). the cork thing could be added to that same video but would not work as a stand-alone vid.
Agreed, some tips for this would be awesome
Another thing that can help is getting farther back so you can get the nose out of the water and reduce the moment arm of the portions of the board that are in the water resisting your rotation. It's harder to notice in this video since the board is so small, but practicing on a longboard will make the position change more obvious.Practice sitting in the center (as if when waiting for waves) the scooting way back before you begin the rotation.
Amazing thank you.
Video starts at 3:00 ; it's super useful but 450,000 views x 3 minutes = over 1 million wasted minutes
Longboarding is perfect to practice this.