Common Ground by J. Anthony Lukas is a great book about this. It follows a black family, a white liberal well-to-do family and an Irish Catholic family. One of the things I took away from it was that Louise Day Hicks and Pixie Palladino and the whites who were opposed to busing had a lot to do with having their kids moved a distance away from their neighborhoods and less to do with race. I knew a black woman who was bused from Dorchester to Charlestown who said that her bus was under attack from it. The thing is, she hated it too. The remedy in her mind was having better schools in the neighborhood. The white liberals who advocated for it often sent their kids to private schools.
Maintaining segregation wouldn't have been a good move. America is a multi ethnic country. People will have to deal with all backgrounds during the course of their lives when they enter the adult world. It's better they have experience and a base of reference to work from , developed during formative years . The scenes were SHOCKING at the time. It dragged on for YEAR'S. I remember even catholic priests showing up to support the largely Irish mobs.. can you imagine a Christian priest standing alongside these displays. It was deeply embarrassing period for Boston .
@@nancyblake1000 I'm sorry could you explain what you mean by the Catholic/Christian dichotomy. I'm not heavily religious but I'd like to understand what you mean. Thanks!
That’s what a lot of black ppl from Boston said. They didn’t want to go to those schools and deal with fighting everyday and having mobs throw rocks at the buses. The schools in the black communities should’ve had more resources so they were better. That doesn’t excuse the race driven mobs though.
@@larrymyers5989 of course it doesn't. The mobs were terrible. I had a black studies professor in college 20 years ago. One of his law school buddies was the man in the infamous photo being harassed by a flag waving Irish kid on his way into work. The funny thing is, I don't even think the kid cared one way or the other. Just wanted to rage on a black man. If you get a chance , grab that book. Lukas was a great writer.
I drove a school bus for 3 years during the first years of busing while I attended school in between bus runs at UMass in Boston. They ran close to 100 buses from a MBTA public transit garage and terminal in Roxbury through out the city and drivers unionized very early on. I drove elementary black children from Roxbury my first year through the tunnel under Boston harbor to white school in East Boston. Then I picked up white middle kids in South Boston projects for a quick ride to mostly Black Colombia Point projects across from the new UMass campus. Each bus had a monitor to help with keeping the kids orderly and safe as possible. I remember my monitor as 30 something year old heroin addict many times in morning sleeping across the bus seats while I wheeled the bus through the neighborhoods with very young children. It was a very stressful job but eventually I got my footing and learned to communicate with all ages and races of children to safely get the kids to school.
The shame of busing was that white kids from under performing white schools were sent to under performing black schools and black kids from under performing black schools were sent to white under performing schools. No one benefited. Money would have been better spent to improve school curriculum, quality of teachers, bringing kids up to grade level at their schools and allow them to stay in their neighborhood. Now they spend hours on buses traveling to and from school. As a kid living in Roxbury I went to elementary school before busing with mostly black kids and we played with each other after school. All busing did was create a new job title “school bus driver”. As people moved out, neighborhoods became devastated, and fell into disrepair. After more than 44 years they are still busing. Why haven’t schools improved enough now to allow kids to go to their neighborhood school.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! Roxbury High and Southie High were equally bad schools. They just forced the kids onto buses across town to switch. One of the worst ideas ever. It was class warfare, rich liberals against the poors. Shame that poor black and poor white Bostonians didn't realize THAT common ground. The social engineers screwed all of us. And all these decades later, are the schools finally good now? Nope! Of course not.
I feel sorry for those kids that were taken out of their neighborhood schools and bussed miles away from their friends and neighbors just to satisfy some elite judges social engineering.
A Charlotte student here who was bused in the 80's without any mental or emotional damage or psychological damage haha! What I did gain was a good foundational education, and 2 friendships that has endured since graduation.
I remember when my black community in Boston was like that man in Charlestown said, “My mother lived next to me, my aunt, my cousins, all before federal raids and regentrification.
Ppl are not going to STAY in their communities paying taxes/school taxes for children NOT THEIR OWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Residents ARE going to MOVE , TAKE THEIR KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS that were ONCE THEIR OWN and they ARE GONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I support the truant mothers. The idea that the government makes you send your kid across town was a nonsense. They should have been raising the standard of black schools so none of this was necessary.
That's the problem though, the same policies that are needed to fix underperforming Black schools would be politically unpopular among the same people who are against the busing
@@frankiel3767 Bussing still doesn't make sense. They sent black kids from failing ghetto schools to failing white schools in South Boston and Charlestown. But at that school they also had to deal with attacks from the angry residents. They really should not have sent black kids to those schools.
Yeah a desire for whites only privilege was (is) the issue. Racism like the kind seen all over America in 2023 is the reason why there was such a fiasco… Whites don’t want blacks to have access to quality goods and services. It seems the same today. Roxbury in the building. Did I say something wrong?
The problem with bussing children from South Boston to Roxbury or Roxbury to South Boston is they found South Boston Public schools were just as shit*y as the Roxbury Public schools. My family lived next to a public school and my little brother was bussed to Roxbury. The distance was my mother's only complaint.
Seriously. Those policies were put out there, but white people don't want the same resources for black people. How would they justify their superiority if blacks had the same opportunities through resources to succeed.
Imagine if they would have gave proper facilities and all things to run it. Our curriculum would have been totally different and we'd of known about us much much earlier on.
that's impossible for the capitalist system, they just wanna profit, and u know from whom? WHITES, they tend to be richer than the average black/native american person
I lived in Boston for about 5 months back in the mid 90s; in my Vagabond days, still very segregated to this day! Lived in Arlington and the Caucasians there felt a cold feeling: rented a room in an elderly lady’s house, possibly Irish most likely. She drove me up the wall! Just want to work and go to room and rest but apparently she expected me to keep her company and kept threatening to be evicted if I didn’t. Time to go! Moved to Roxbury, on Bluehill avenue, and had 2 bikes stolen, and some people looking to pick fights! Both those worlds were not compatible to me!
Boston people love to fight. Im from Hyde Park in Boston. My uncle went to Roxbury High (were black) he told me how they used to beat the white kids down with cinderblocks if they stayed in the neighborhood too long after school. We had our bikes and stuff was stolen often growing up int he 90s and 2000s. House broken into a few times.
I was bused to Bedford Mass , and then to Brookline Mass. Brookline at the time had the best schools in the country. I don't lament at all my experience being bused . Busing in the inner city took poor kids from both black and white neighborhoods and exchanged them from one bad school to another. That could've been avoided. Through that time I could remember the deep seated racial hatred for black people. It was extremely hostile, if you ventured into , Charlestown, South Boston and even East Boston it could mean your life , that serious.
@@afmartin2734 I later in 1995 worked for an Irish guy out of South Boston his last name was Shaughnessy . He had a delivery company called I believe Expressit . Once I had left an office where I dropped off one of the packages. As I got to the next building a police officer was waiting for me to question me . Apparently a black male had went into that office and stole a computer. The office secretary didn't remember me handing her a package . I had on the company jacket and everything. Shaughnessy had to come there and Verify I was his employee. After he did so he said to me . "Sorry for this they're giving you a hard time because your black I know". Come to find out Shaughnessy had biracial children that were Irish and Cambodian. By that time blacks , Latinos, and southeast Asians integrated the projects in Southie . A Haitain woman had saved a young white kid from hanging himself . Who would've thought this was at all possible
Shit Even in Roxbury where they set this innocent white woman on fire for no reason but your damn right you wouldn't catch a black person in southie ect vice versa
I'm a product of the dysfunctional Boston public school system. 1974, I entered high school. I survived, made a life for myself, and moved on. Raised two kids. Sent them to PRIVATE schools.
Yep, a good solution would have been to increase funding to the black schools. Instead in some case black kids were bussed from their failing schools to other failing schools in White Working class neighborhoods. Big brain move by the federal government.
Dude, try sending your kids to a school in LAUSD; it's literal torture for them. Let's ignore the gangs and overall violence: *None of the kids who are serious about education get educated, because the teaches cease to be instructors and become overpaid babysitters* And when people applaud this crap, is further proof everything has degenerated in our so called society All the boomers reaped the benefit of going to homogenous schools and are now forcing our generation to suffer because the media and controlled "academia" says so I guarantee all our congressmen don't send their kids to these schools
Dude, try sending your kids to a school in LAUSD; it's literal torture for them. Let's ignore the gangs and overall violence: *None of the kids who are serious about education get educated, because the teaches cease to be instructors and become overpaid babysitters* And when people applaud this crap, is further proof everything has degenerated in our so called society All the boomers reaped the benefit of going to homogenous schools and are now forcing our generation to suffer because the media and controlled "academia" says so I guarantee all our congressmen don't send their kids to these schools
@Nimfa McDonald I diagree...it was way to try to equalize the opportunities Black schools never had the facility, books or resources of the white schools...even in the same school district This improved with integration
@Nimfa McDonald You should check out the way things actually were There was certainly a big difference in the white and black schools in Texas where I went to school
@Nimfa McDonald I lived it as well I had gone to all black schools until I was 10 I found it amazing at how much nicer the white school was, than the one I had been going to. These were schools in the same school district Night and day difference in them You must have gone to school in a HUGE school district..in fact recording setting if you PASSED 30 SCHOOLS What city /school district was this and what years are we talking? Mine was Fort Worth Texas starting in 1975
Amen. As a student who suffered through kids getting bussed in, I concur. The bussed in kids don't want to be here. And those kids who want to learn don't get to because teachers become over paid babysitters rather than instructors All these boomers (sorry to say it) enjoyed going to homogeneous schools, reaped its benefits, and now deny those positive experiences for their children and grandchildren
Multi-culturalism has and will always cause tension. It's natural for groups who don't share characteristics, relegion and culture to not get along. That has happened since the beginning of time and will never change. Forcing things just make it worse.
Well blacks speak English and are predominantly Christian like most whites, and blacks in general have been in America much longer than most whites, maybe you should say two groups with different skin colors, than culture, we both share American culture, most white are multicultural and come from more recent immigrant Euroethnic groups, considering blacks are more ethnically homogeneous than the different European nationalities that comprise so called white racial group.
@@charleshunter7864 still different COMING from a black person. This entire country portraying the notion of being a multicultural melting pot is insane, America’s a fairly new country of people who unnaturally coexisted with each other. Multiculturalism doesn’t work especially when forced. This country isn’t a melting pot it’s a pot full of things thrown together all at once.
@@daholyspirit2783 It's not just US every country in the western hemisphere are unnaturally coexisting at that matter 90%of countries on Earth have diverse cultures that "unnaturally coexist example Russia, South Africa, Indonesia,Brazil, Mexico, China, UK, Spain, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, All these countries are racially and culturally heterogeneous countries with multicultural populations that you would call unnatural coexisting. The world has always been this way, if you've traveled outside the US you notice these things.P.s what does me being black have to do with your point?
@@charleshunter7864 it’s mostly western countries but America is an extreme example of the “melting pot” social experiment since it’s founding it’s been unique in that sense. It really is like no other nation both in good and bad.
May 1976 I remember exactly what I was doing then. I was 12 years old, about to turn 13 in Los Angeles. I never thought forced busing was right. I didn’t agree with forcing whites to be around blacks when they didn’t want to I think those days were better because whites then didn’t try to hide their racism. They were more honest about it, the many that were. You can listen to the way they’re speaking here and tell racist views were extremely common then
Whether is racism or not is not the issue. Anytime, anywhere, anyhow, when Things are IMPOSED BY FORCED on people, specially but no uniquely Americans, is going to be trouble.
@@gcuddy7991 boo hoo. Guess what? Nobody wants to hear it unless you are willing to be an honest man and admit to me that that so-called "racism" went both ways. I remember busing, I was beaten up mercilessly in inner city schools because I was white. Do I get a voice? You really think if you keep denying that there was violence and racism from the other side that people like me will just simply go away? I've got news for you, all it does is create more racism.
Forced bussing affects the kids the most. While all the parents twiddle their thumbs and pretend to be progressive (their new religion of wokeness), their children's education suffers Myself and many of our peers felt the overwhelmingly negative effects of bussing in. Our classroom was always interrupted by those students. The teachers ceased being instructors and became over paid babysitters Learning was a joke *This is our future children's education it's not something to mess with*
parents are the real problems, they raised their kids that way, if your "education" is based on racism and bigot children, lemme tell u that's not education, that's the otherwise, it's that you are rude to your children to be fucking racists
So I guess Teddy Kennedy had his kids bussed is that right? His kids didn't go to a private school right. He would want the best for his kids just like the parents of Boston wanted for their kids. And the best was to be bussed. It's all understandable. Actually these politicians are still like this today nothing has changed a drop!
I was a guinea pig for this shit at Southie High. Busing was a kick in the pants and pols couldn't cared less. They were too busy patting selves on the back - for what!
I found interesting that the Charlotte school principal who disagreed with busing still accepted the deal as a law issue. This shows that white conservative Americans are still first law and order (even if they don’t like it) while minorities are first about feelings and their own perspective.
I had 2 middle schools within a 5 minute walk and had to travel out to school. No bus, literally had to walk 10 min to train station, then take the train at 10yrs old for 15 more min from Broadway station to Fields corner. Rain sleet or snow. I was the only white kid and no issues with fitting in. However, I would leave at 630a to be on time and got home at 430p for an 8a-3p school day.
What’s sad is they show the white side of the resistance of busing, however. Black parents didn’t want their kids busing to another Boston Public School as well. Boston Public Schools were a joke and had the same curriculum and poor educators in South Boston as they did in Roxbury. Same crap different toilet. South Boston high was out dated and run down and had no amenities. No pool, broken gym, no heat, flooded toilets etc. in the end it seemed more like a political game and a funding grab. The cash they wasted on police details and busses, they could have had a complete overhaul of curriculum and building repairs / additions. The gym alone at Southie high is a joke. No stands, tiny locker room etc. I remember us winning High School titles and college coaches like (Rick Pitino) coming to the gym and having to stand on the wall. Which was 1foot from the out of bounds line and gym had a capacity of 85ppl. Including the 20 coaches and ball players. However, the school in Roxbury I went to had stands, cheerleaders and showers. So why send kids from a good school to a worse school in the name of equality. The teachers at Southie. Daily would be drunk, scratching lottery tickets and offering A grades to any girl that wore a skirt or any boy that played a sport.
I’m all for racial equality, but bussing is unfair to just about everyone. Most people want their children to attend schools near their homes. If you’re putting out all kinds of money, use it to improve the poor schools. Who wants their kids on busses for hours every day and split up from their familiar teachers and friends? Sometimes, siblings are made to attend different schools. I grew up in a military family, so I know how it is to keep moving. The issue isn’t race so much as loss of the right to live, work, and be educated in the place of one’s choice. Little kids don’t care much about race.
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Integration was the beginning of the problems. Let kids feel comfortable black or white with who they want to be around even if it’s their own. And no,…. I’m not a racist. Just common sense thinker.
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Busing has created more problems than what it solved. Why is it forced on people who don't want it? Make it voluntary if parents want their kids to get bussed(but not at the expense of their local school's taxes) . If you want to bus your kids to a different school , then you pay that school's tax rate
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU!!! THEY WANNA SAY BOSTON WAS RACIST...... I BEG TO DIFFER BIG TIME!!!!! JUDGE GARRITY DID NOT TAKE HEED TO THE OUTCRY OF THE RESIDENTS IN SOUTHIE. NO ONE CAN SAY SOUTHIE DID NOT TRY TO SETTLE THIS CIVILY. THIER DEMANDS FELL UPON THE DEAF EARS OF OF THE FEDS...
This must be a city thing. In the country we take buses but it's just from the woods to the less woodsy area where the schools are at lol. All races in one school because it's the only one for miles (and it's absolute shit quality so we all get equally shitty education with creepy pedo teachers & the like). No matter how bad this might seem, try it out here and see how you like it and you might find it's not so bad. With the exception of the most violent inner city schools of course. Everyone deserves an equal education but also, an equally safe neighborhood.
I fled Shreveport, Louisiana when that forced " racial quota " busing was forced down our junior high school throats ---- & thank God I had the option of attending Department of Defense schools in Europe, as a young teenager. -- Yes, that move to Europe, as a " military dependant " was the BEST move of my young teenage years!!! ---- Best liberal, anti- 2nd Amendment, pro - abortion, urban student brainwashing ever !! ( at DOD overseas schools in the '70's). I learned, at a very early age, all the politically correct garbage to regurgitate , later, during my active duty military career. ---- helping me to ensure that I didn't EVER say...... " insensitive, discriminatory, anti- Democratic Party " language to any of my fellow active duty members ( which would certainly earn me an. " inability to adapt " administrative type military discharge. Yes, instead, --- " all that crap I learned in High School " kept me ' out of trouble ' & I retired with a great government pension, -- thanks to that early overseas U.S. civil servant school anti- Republican Party "indoctrination." So .......in retrospect, GOD BLESS " forced busing" (in Shreveport, Louisiana, in 1971 !!! )
Wow, that’s scary considering I too was apart of the DoD / military system and I found the experience rewarding - but reading your rant I suddenly realized that I rubbed shoulders with people that “learned” how to adapt with different American cultures while serving their military, really “learned” how to be a secret agent by keeping their radical beliefs of superiority stealth.
Does anyone over in the New World actually believe that John Connally gave up his career, life and freedom for a gold watch and a love of a childhood mate?
the heart of busing was NOT racial balance but job distribution through education and locality which factors in racial balance considering blacks were systematically kept from jobs and welfare initiatives that could help their impoverished families. the end goal of this was access to labor. That seems to be obscured since it largely didn't happen and was undermined. America is such a dark moronic place.
I moved to a all white neighborhood in 1976 at the age of 10, I found out that year I was black lol. I remember the issues In Boston that year, my parents watched the world news religiously.
It went both ways. None of these Irish Catholic kids knew they were "white" until bourgeois liberal whites started forcing neighborhoods and schools to imbalance the demographics. I was beaten up mercilessly every day for being white. We were poor and we had no money, we weren't well off. Where's my sappy documentary? I'll bet you don't even care. None of you do, then you wonder why people like myself exist.
I was born in 1980, they made racial and socioeconomic issues seem like ancient history. I remember seeing the low grades of inner city schools and being told I would likely be dead or in jail by 21. Subliminal messages and psychological warfare
I have lived in Boston since 1978. The white neighborhood folks depicted in this video passed during the 90s. Many of Roxbury's homeowners are gay, white men.
The point was to offer the same education across the board in a facility that was on the same level as other schools. It's sad we were asking for updated books which should have just been there ours were old editions and ragady. But we know that the education of the black race has always been an issue for them being that didn't want us to read from the beginning to keep the race down.
I’m so glad I can see how these white ppl where and many still are in Boston. It’s still segregated although gentrification is taking place in Roxburys south end
Yea I don't see it still being segregated tho and I'm from here and in my opinion the city of Boston has come a long long way since the bussing of the 70s and I really don't know how someone thats from the area could disagree
All families in Boston were for neighborhood schools... period! I know that era in Boston, lived that era and many years before.... you are wrong! and don't have a clue how happy & 'peaceful' it was and how leaders DESTROYED that 'peace' for many reasons! You have been 'programmed' by watching & listening too many 'programs!
@@dougmoesizlack9807 This is why schools need to teach reconstruction a lot more. If people actually understood what life was for blacks and whites prior to Jim Crow/Black Codes but after the civil war, they'd understand why a. black people aren't so impressed by what we call progress, and why black people are never comfortable with this type of progress because they know it can be taken away.
Ah, yes, of course you are against gentrification of your own neighbourhoods, but totally fine with a historically Irish Catholic area being completely wiped out. Typical. And you wonder why people like me exist and are so resentful. Gee, I wonder why??
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Common Ground by J. Anthony Lukas is a great book about this. It follows a black family, a white liberal well-to-do family and an Irish Catholic family. One of the things I took away from it was that Louise Day Hicks and Pixie Palladino and the whites who were opposed to busing had a lot to do with having their kids moved a distance away from their neighborhoods and less to do with race. I knew a black woman who was bused from Dorchester to Charlestown who said that her bus was under attack from it. The thing is, she hated it too. The remedy in her mind was having better schools in the neighborhood. The white liberals who advocated for it often sent their kids to private schools.
Maintaining segregation wouldn't have been a good move. America is a multi ethnic country. People will have to deal with all backgrounds during the course of their lives when they enter the adult world. It's better they have experience and a base of reference to work from , developed during formative years . The scenes were SHOCKING at the time. It dragged on for YEAR'S. I remember even catholic priests showing up to support the largely Irish mobs.. can you imagine a Christian priest standing alongside these displays. It was deeply embarrassing period for Boston .
@@nancyblake1000 I'm sorry could you explain what you mean by the Catholic/Christian dichotomy. I'm not heavily religious but I'd like to understand what you mean. Thanks!
That’s what a lot of black ppl from Boston said. They didn’t want to go to those schools and deal with fighting everyday and having mobs throw rocks at the buses. The schools in the black communities should’ve had more resources so they were better. That doesn’t excuse the race driven mobs though.
@@larrymyers5989 of course it doesn't. The mobs were terrible. I had a black studies professor in college 20 years ago. One of his law school buddies was the man in the infamous photo being harassed by a flag waving Irish kid on his way into work. The funny thing is, I don't even think the kid cared one way or the other. Just wanted to rage on a black man. If you get a chance , grab that book. Lukas was a great writer.
@@thecancelling2870 I read that book in juve
I drove a school bus for 3 years during the first years of busing while I attended school in between bus runs at UMass in Boston. They ran close to 100 buses from a MBTA public transit garage and terminal in Roxbury through out the city and drivers unionized very early on. I drove elementary black children from Roxbury my first year through the tunnel under Boston harbor to white school in East Boston. Then I picked up white middle kids in South Boston projects for a quick ride to mostly Black Colombia Point projects across from the new UMass campus.
Each bus had a monitor to help with keeping the kids orderly and safe as possible. I remember my monitor as 30 something year old heroin addict many times in morning sleeping across the bus seats while I wheeled the bus through the neighborhoods with very young children. It was a very stressful job but eventually I got my footing and learned to communicate with all ages and races of children to safely get the kids to school.
The shame of busing was that white kids from under performing white schools were sent to under performing black schools and black kids from under performing black schools were sent to white under performing schools. No one benefited. Money would have been better spent to improve school curriculum, quality of teachers, bringing kids up to grade level at their schools and allow them to stay in their neighborhood. Now they spend hours on buses traveling to and from school. As a kid living in Roxbury I went to elementary school before busing with mostly black kids and we played with each other after school. All busing did was create a new job title “school bus driver”. As people moved out, neighborhoods became devastated, and fell into disrepair. After more than 44 years they are still busing. Why haven’t schools improved enough now to allow kids to go to their neighborhood school.
YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
Roxbury High and Southie High were equally bad schools. They just forced the kids onto buses across town to switch. One of the worst ideas ever. It was class warfare, rich liberals against the poors. Shame that poor black and poor white Bostonians didn't realize THAT common ground. The social engineers screwed all of us. And all these decades later, are the schools finally good now? Nope! Of course not.
All busing did was create a new job title "school bus driver".
I feel sorry for those kids that were taken out of their neighborhood schools and bussed miles away from their friends and neighbors just to satisfy some elite judges social engineering.
Social engineering of getting along with fellow Americans when white people couldn't do that on their own. The temerity.
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Coercion is bad
A Charlotte student here who was bused in the 80's without any mental or emotional damage or psychological damage haha! What I did gain was a good foundational education, and 2 friendships that has endured since graduation.
I remember when my black community in Boston was like that man in Charlestown said, “My mother lived next to me, my aunt, my cousins, all before federal raids and regentrification.
Ppl are not going to STAY in their communities paying taxes/school taxes for children NOT THEIR OWN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Residents ARE going to MOVE , TAKE THEIR KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS that were ONCE THEIR OWN and they ARE GONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My parents got the letter when I was in 1st grade, they immediately pulled me out 1/2 way in school year and put me in a private school.
I support the truant mothers. The idea that the government makes you send your kid across town was a nonsense. They should have been raising the standard of black schools so none of this was necessary.
ya...cuz racist southies were beautiful
That's the problem though, the same policies that are needed to fix underperforming Black schools would be politically unpopular among the same people who are against the busing
@@frankiel3767 Bussing still doesn't make sense. They sent black kids from failing ghetto schools to failing white schools in South Boston and Charlestown. But at that school they also had to deal with attacks from the angry residents. They really should not have sent black kids to those schools.
Yeah a desire for whites only privilege was (is) the issue. Racism like the kind seen all over America in 2023 is the reason why there was such a fiasco…
Whites don’t want blacks to have access to quality goods and services.
It seems the same today.
Roxbury in the building. Did I say something wrong?
The problem with bussing children from South Boston to Roxbury or Roxbury to South Boston is they found South Boston Public schools were just as shit*y as the Roxbury Public schools. My family lived next to a public school and my little brother was bussed to Roxbury. The distance was my mother's only complaint.
Exactly, the schools were just as bad but now he black kids also had to deal with people in the neighborhood angry about bussing.
@@georgea.567 Southie has changed a lot. Thank goodness. Bussing is not much of an issue today.
Hey imagine if they upgraded and paid teachers well in all areas. Also making housing affordable in all areas so you don't have to force segration.
Separate buy Equal? Wonder how that worked out?
Seriously. Those policies were put out there, but white people don't want the same resources for black people. How would they justify their superiority if blacks had the same opportunities through resources to succeed.
Sorry but how the heck do you make all areas affordable? Do you seriously want to put low income housing in your neighborhood? I bet not.
Imagine if they would have gave proper facilities and all things to run it. Our curriculum would have been totally different and we'd of known about us much much earlier on.
that's impossible for the capitalist system, they just wanna profit, and u know from whom? WHITES, they tend to be richer than the average black/native american person
I lived in Boston for about 5 months back in the mid 90s; in my Vagabond days, still very segregated to this day! Lived in Arlington and the Caucasians there felt a cold feeling: rented a room in an elderly lady’s house, possibly Irish most likely. She drove me up the wall! Just want to work and go to room and rest but apparently she expected me to keep her company and kept threatening to be evicted if I didn’t. Time to go! Moved to Roxbury, on Bluehill avenue, and had 2 bikes stolen, and some people looking to pick fights! Both those worlds were not compatible to me!
Boston people love to fight. Im from Hyde Park in Boston. My uncle went to Roxbury High (were black) he told me how they used to beat the white kids down with cinderblocks if they stayed in the neighborhood too long after school. We had our bikes and stuff was stolen often growing up int he 90s and 2000s. House broken into a few times.
Why would Judge Garrity consider local neighborhood schools -as they were-“UNCONSTITUTIONAL”???
Absurdities like that usually mean some uncomfortable reality is being avoided.
I was bused to Bedford Mass , and then to Brookline Mass. Brookline at the time had the best schools in the country. I don't lament at all my experience being bused . Busing in the inner city took poor kids from both black and white neighborhoods and exchanged them from one bad school to another. That could've been avoided. Through that time I could remember the deep seated racial hatred for black people. It was extremely hostile, if you ventured into , Charlestown, South Boston and even East Boston it could mean your life , that serious.
Yep. It was more or less relegated to the Irish neighborhoods like you've mentioned.
@@afmartin2734 I later in 1995 worked for an Irish guy out of South Boston his last name was Shaughnessy . He had a delivery company called I believe Expressit . Once I had left an office where I dropped off one of the packages. As I got to the next building a police officer was waiting for me to question me . Apparently a black male had went into that office and stole a computer. The office secretary didn't remember me handing her a package . I had on the company jacket and everything. Shaughnessy had to come there and Verify I was his employee. After he did so he said to me . "Sorry for this they're giving you a hard time because your black I know". Come to find out Shaughnessy had biracial children that were Irish and Cambodian. By that time blacks , Latinos, and southeast Asians integrated the projects in Southie . A Haitain woman had saved a young white kid from hanging himself . Who would've thought this was at all possible
Shit Even in Roxbury where they set this innocent white woman on fire for no reason but your damn right you wouldn't catch a black person in southie ect vice versa
I'm a product of the dysfunctional Boston public school system. 1974, I entered high school. I survived, made a life for myself, and moved on. Raised two kids. Sent them to PRIVATE schools.
Seemed like shit virtue signaling by mixing all the low income neighborhoods rather than equitably funding all public schools
Yep, a good solution would have been to increase funding to the black schools. Instead in some case black kids were bussed from their failing schools to other failing schools in White Working class neighborhoods. Big brain move by the federal government.
In my schools it didn’t effect much. I went to school with only like 5 white kids I can remember throughout all my years up to high school.
Dude, try sending your kids to a school in LAUSD; it's literal torture for them. Let's ignore the gangs and overall violence:
*None of the kids who are serious about education get educated, because the teaches cease to be instructors and become overpaid babysitters*
And when people applaud this crap, is further proof everything has degenerated in our so called society
All the boomers reaped the benefit of going to homogenous schools and are now forcing our generation to suffer because the media and controlled "academia" says so
I guarantee all our congressmen don't send their kids to these schools
Dude, try sending your kids to a school in LAUSD; it's literal torture for them. Let's ignore the gangs and overall violence:
*None of the kids who are serious about education get educated, because the teaches cease to be instructors and become overpaid babysitters*
And when people applaud this crap, is further proof everything has degenerated in our so called society
All the boomers reaped the benefit of going to homogenous schools and are now forcing our generation to suffer because the media and controlled "academia" says so
I guarantee all our congressmen don't send their kids to these schools
Im black and l disagree with bussing, it only causes unnecessary stress.
@ Mr Red
Except the black schools historically always had worse facilities and access
@Nimfa McDonald I diagree...it was way to try to equalize the opportunities
Black schools never had the facility, books or resources of the white schools...even in the same school district
This improved with integration
@Nimfa McDonald You should check out the way things actually were
There was certainly a big difference in the white and black schools in Texas where I went to school
@Nimfa McDonald
I lived it as well
I had gone to all black schools until I was 10
I found it amazing at how much nicer the white school was, than the one I had been going to.
These were schools in the same school district
Night and day difference in them
You must have gone to school in a HUGE school district..in fact recording setting if you PASSED 30 SCHOOLS
What city /school district was this and what years are we talking?
Mine was Fort Worth Texas starting in 1975
Amen. As a student who suffered through kids getting bussed in, I concur.
The bussed in kids don't want to be here. And those kids who want to learn don't get to because teachers become over paid babysitters rather than instructors
All these boomers (sorry to say it) enjoyed going to homogeneous schools, reaped its benefits, and now deny those positive experiences for their children and grandchildren
Half baked ideas like bussing are usually a sign that some uncomfortable or offensive reality is being avoided.
Multi-culturalism has and will always cause tension. It's natural for groups who don't share characteristics, relegion and culture to not get along. That has happened since the beginning of time and will never change. Forcing things just make it worse.
Well blacks speak English and are predominantly Christian like most whites, and blacks in general have been in America much longer than most whites, maybe you should say two groups with different skin colors, than culture, we both share American culture, most white are multicultural and come from more recent immigrant Euroethnic groups, considering blacks are more ethnically homogeneous than the different European nationalities that comprise so called white racial group.
@@charleshunter7864 still different COMING from a black person. This entire country portraying the notion of being a multicultural melting pot is insane, America’s a fairly new country of people who unnaturally coexisted with each other. Multiculturalism doesn’t work especially when forced. This country isn’t a melting pot it’s a pot full of things thrown together all at once.
@@daholyspirit2783 It's not just US every country in the western hemisphere are unnaturally coexisting at that matter 90%of countries on Earth have diverse cultures that "unnaturally coexist example Russia, South Africa, Indonesia,Brazil, Mexico, China, UK, Spain, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, All these countries are racially and culturally heterogeneous countries with multicultural populations that you would call unnatural coexisting. The world has always been this way, if you've traveled outside the US you notice these things.P.s what does me being black have to do with your point?
@@charleshunter7864 it’s mostly western countries but America is an extreme example of the “melting pot” social experiment since it’s founding it’s been unique in that sense. It really is like no other nation both in good and bad.
@@charleshunter7864 I said I’m black to indicate that I especially don’t agree.
Boston was so dirty and gritty back then. The Zone bussing the Elevated line. I'm sorry I missed it
Ms. Palladino and Ms. Day Hicks have long since passed.
I am amazed at how short of a distance we send buses for. I guess walking.biking is to be discouraged at all costs.
Because it's all about squeezing the dollar out of the American citizens. The city can't make money off of people walking to and from work & school
Amazing that people were more worried about who rode what bus than inflation and the federal budget?!?!🤯 Who has the problem? That's the problem!
May 1976 I remember exactly what I was doing then. I was 12 years old, about to turn 13 in Los Angeles. I never thought forced busing was right. I didn’t agree with forcing whites to be around blacks when they didn’t want to
I think those days were better because whites then didn’t try to hide their racism. They were more honest about it, the many that were. You can listen to the way they’re speaking here and tell racist views were extremely common then
Whether is racism or not is not the issue. Anytime, anywhere, anyhow, when Things are IMPOSED BY FORCED on people, specially but no uniquely Americans, is going to be trouble.
@@randomami8176 It’s racism
@@gcuddy7991 boo hoo. Guess what? Nobody wants to hear it unless you are willing to be an honest man and admit to me that that so-called "racism" went both ways. I remember busing, I was beaten up mercilessly in inner city schools because I was white. Do I get a voice? You really think if you keep denying that there was violence and racism from the other side that people like me will just simply go away? I've got news for you, all it does is create more racism.
@@charlesmaximus9161 Let me guess, spoken as a white man in “empathy absent” voice?
@@charlesmaximus9161 as a black man, from one human being to another, I am sorry that you were mistreated.
Forced bussing affects the kids the most. While all the parents twiddle their thumbs and pretend to be progressive (their new religion of wokeness), their children's education suffers
Myself and many of our peers felt the overwhelmingly negative effects of bussing in.
Our classroom was always interrupted by those students. The teachers ceased being instructors and became over paid babysitters Learning was a joke
*This is our future children's education it's not something to mess with*
parents are the real problems, they raised their kids that way, if your "education" is based on racism and bigot children, lemme tell u that's not education, that's the otherwise, it's that you are rude to your children to be fucking racists
So I guess Teddy Kennedy had his kids bussed is that right? His kids didn't go to a private school right. He would want the best for his kids just like the parents of Boston wanted for their kids. And the best was to be bussed. It's all understandable. Actually these politicians are still like this today nothing has changed a drop!
.... how did Father Drinen get elected to Congress from Commonwealth of Massachusetts?
I was a guinea pig for this shit at Southie High. Busing was a kick in the pants and pols couldn't cared less. They were too busy patting selves on the back - for what!
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I found interesting that the Charlotte school principal who disagreed with busing still accepted the deal as a law issue. This shows that white conservative Americans are still first law and order (even if they don’t like it) while minorities are first about feelings and their own perspective.
It's easy to be law and order, when you have numbers on your side and can create laws that favor your kind of people, whereas minorities can't.
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I had 2 middle schools within a 5 minute walk and had to travel out to school. No bus, literally had to walk 10 min to train station, then take the train at 10yrs old for 15 more min from Broadway station to Fields corner. Rain sleet or snow.
I was the only white kid and no issues with fitting in. However, I would leave at 630a to be on time and got home at 430p for an 8a-3p school day.
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What’s sad is they show the white side of the resistance of busing, however. Black parents didn’t want their kids busing to another Boston Public School as well. Boston Public Schools were a joke and had the same curriculum and poor educators in South Boston as they did in Roxbury. Same crap different toilet. South Boston high was out dated and run down and had no amenities. No pool, broken gym, no heat, flooded toilets etc. in the end it seemed more like a political game and a funding grab. The cash they wasted on police details and busses, they could have had a complete overhaul of curriculum and building repairs / additions.
The gym alone at Southie high is a joke. No stands, tiny locker room etc. I remember us winning High School titles and college coaches like (Rick Pitino) coming to the gym and having to stand on the wall. Which was 1foot from the out of bounds line and gym had a capacity of 85ppl. Including the 20 coaches and ball players. However, the school in Roxbury I went to had stands, cheerleaders and showers. So why send kids from a good school to a worse school in the name of equality. The teachers at Southie. Daily would be drunk, scratching lottery tickets and offering A grades to any girl that wore a skirt or any boy that played a sport.
I’m all for racial equality, but bussing is unfair to just about everyone. Most people want their children to attend schools near their homes. If you’re putting out all kinds of money, use it to improve the poor schools. Who wants their kids on busses for hours every day and split up from their familiar teachers and friends? Sometimes, siblings are made to attend different schools. I grew up in a military family, so I know how it is to keep moving. The issue isn’t race so much as loss of the right to live, work, and be educated in the place of one’s choice. Little kids don’t care much about race.
They couldn't pass that now. No one wants to work.
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Integration was the beginning of the problems. Let kids feel comfortable black or white with who they want to be around even if it’s their own. And no,…. I’m not a racist. Just common sense thinker.
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The folks from the sports documentary said that Boston was inclusive
Compared to Cleveland Cincinnati Buffalo Toledo Pittsburgh it is . Boston in the 2020s has improved.
Boston is diverse now and more representative in government. Its still segregated and there's very little social integration.
Busing has created more problems than what it solved. Why is it forced on people who don't want it? Make it voluntary if parents want their kids to get bussed(but not at the expense of their local school's taxes) . If you want to bus your kids to a different school , then you pay that school's tax rate
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU!!! THEY WANNA SAY BOSTON WAS RACIST...... I BEG TO DIFFER BIG TIME!!!!! JUDGE GARRITY DID NOT TAKE HEED TO THE OUTCRY OF THE RESIDENTS IN SOUTHIE. NO ONE CAN SAY SOUTHIE DID NOT TRY TO SETTLE THIS CIVILY. THIER DEMANDS FELL UPON THE DEAF EARS OF OF THE FEDS...
This must be a city thing. In the country we take buses but it's just from the woods to the less woodsy area where the schools are at lol. All races in one school because it's the only one for miles (and it's absolute shit quality so we all get equally shitty education with creepy pedo teachers & the like). No matter how bad this might seem, try it out here and see how you like it and you might find it's not so bad. With the exception of the most violent inner city schools of course. Everyone deserves an equal education but also, an equally safe neighborhood.
LOL
I fled Shreveport, Louisiana when that forced " racial quota " busing was forced down our junior high school throats ---- & thank God I had the option of attending Department of Defense schools in Europe, as a young teenager. -- Yes, that move to Europe, as a " military dependant " was the BEST move of my young teenage years!!! ---- Best liberal, anti- 2nd Amendment, pro - abortion, urban student brainwashing ever !! ( at DOD overseas schools in the '70's). I learned, at a very early age, all the politically correct garbage to regurgitate , later, during my active duty military career. ---- helping me to ensure that I didn't EVER say...... " insensitive, discriminatory, anti- Democratic Party " language to any of my fellow active duty members ( which would certainly earn me an. " inability to adapt " administrative type military discharge. Yes, instead, --- " all that crap I learned in High School " kept me ' out of trouble ' & I retired with a great government pension, -- thanks to that early overseas U.S. civil servant school anti- Republican Party "indoctrination." So .......in retrospect, GOD BLESS " forced busing" (in Shreveport, Louisiana, in 1971 !!! )
Wow, that’s scary considering I too was apart of the DoD / military system and I found the experience rewarding - but reading your rant I suddenly realized that I rubbed shoulders with people that “learned” how to adapt with different American cultures while serving their military, really “learned” how to be a secret agent by keeping their radical beliefs of superiority stealth.
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the heart of busing was NOT racial balance but job distribution through education and locality which factors in racial balance considering blacks were systematically kept from jobs and welfare initiatives that could help their impoverished families. the end goal of this was access to labor. That seems to be obscured since it largely didn't happen and was undermined. America is such a dark moronic place.
I moved to a all white neighborhood in 1976 at the age of 10, I found out that year I was black lol. I remember the issues In Boston that year, my parents watched the world news religiously.
It went both ways. None of these Irish Catholic kids knew they were "white" until bourgeois liberal whites started forcing neighborhoods and schools to imbalance the demographics. I was beaten up mercilessly every day for being white. We were poor and we had no money, we weren't well off. Where's my sappy documentary? I'll bet you don't even care. None of you do, then you wonder why people like myself exist.
I was born in 1980, they made racial and socioeconomic issues seem like ancient history. I remember seeing the low grades of inner city schools and being told I would likely be dead or in jail by 21. Subliminal messages and psychological warfare
@@charlesmaximus9161 We don’t wonder. We know already.
The narrator said “Boston guards’ it’s ethnic diversity”. That’s a good thing! Y’all noam sayin’ yo?
Those days were the days happy days
Yes when your Father would beat your Mother and she would cheat with your Uncle😂 That's why most of y'all turned out to be dope heads 😂
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@@kingrhian5531 Same thing goes for many white people.
@@katherineirving7189 that's who I was talking about Katherine.
For WHO?
I was white and went to a lousy school. I wished I was bused to a good school.
Peep the mad dog at 17:46 in the background lol
Many if not most of these whites in the video who protested against desegregation are still alive and voting. Many have passed down their hatred.
All of them democrats
Passed along their realistic reasons for resisting too.
I have lived in Boston since 1978. The white neighborhood folks depicted in this video passed during the 90s. Many of Roxbury's homeowners are gay, white men.
Most are dead or in their 90s.
Joe Biden was one of them.
This does seem dumb and trying to virtue signal. Let them go to their schools. It's like the politicians say, "How can we stir up shit?"
social engineering
Why do you think it was called forced?
excellent documentary, the kind of which is not seen nowadays.
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The public school system has never, never been given the resources that it needs nationwide. That has worked for detriment of minorities, especially.
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The point was to offer the same education across the board in a facility that was on the same level as other schools. It's sad we were asking for updated books which should have just been there ours were old editions and ragady. But we know that the education of the black race has always been an issue for them being that didn't want us to read from the beginning to keep the race down.
I’m so glad I can see how these white ppl where and many still are in Boston. It’s still segregated although gentrification is taking place in Roxburys south end
Yea I don't see it still being segregated tho and I'm from here and in my opinion the city of Boston has come a long long way since the bussing of the 70s and I really don't know how someone thats from the area could disagree
All families in Boston were for neighborhood schools... period! I know that era in Boston, lived that era and many years before.... you are wrong! and don't have a clue how happy & 'peaceful' it was and how leaders DESTROYED that 'peace' for many reasons! You have been 'programmed' by watching & listening too many 'programs!
@@dougmoesizlack9807 This is why schools need to teach reconstruction a lot more. If people actually understood what life was for blacks and whites prior to Jim Crow/Black Codes but after the civil war, they'd understand why a. black people aren't so impressed by what we call progress, and why black people are never comfortable with this type of progress because they know it can be taken away.
Ah, yes, of course you are against gentrification of your own neighbourhoods, but totally fine with a historically Irish Catholic area being completely wiped out. Typical. And you wonder why people like me exist and are so resentful. Gee, I wonder why??