Seeing Gazerbeam carve Kronos into the wall... he was pragmatic. He knew that others would be lured... and he died hoping someone would find him and his clue.
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he didnt even died wanting to be found, he died wanting to help: A true hero, till his last breath
I like that they made Gazerbeam an odd ball. Normally with these eulogies they talk about how fun and funny they were, so it was interesting to see them diverge from that trope.
@@theshuman100 Which is funny because Gazerbeam does feel like some early superhero days esque name while viewpoint just sounds like a more creative name.
Yeah, I like it when a eulogy has the guts to talk about the negatives of the deceased, not just the positives. Makes it feel like an actual celebration of the person as a whole rather than just the parts everyone liked
This is actually a really neat bit of continuity with the NSA Superhero interviews. In those, it’s explained that Gazerbeam actually joined the Thrilling Three very briefly, taking over as team leader after Dynaguy died in his suit accident. The team ended up actually disbanding shortly afterward because, as Apogee put it, “it was really the Thrilling One + Two in Gazerbeam’s mind…”
I don't understand why THIS was removed??? Mr. Incredible's speech was so powerful and moving and it strongly connected the first film to the second film.
Now Let's Take A Moment to Remember: • Gazerbeam. • Stormicide. • Psycwave. • Vectress. • Everseer. • Macroburst. • Phylange. • Blazestone. • Downburst. • Hypershock. • Apogee. • Blitzerman. • Tradewind. • Gamma Jack. and all of the other heroes we've lost in this tragedy, all of the supers who died wanted only to help
While that's true, you could also argue that many of them did it to relive the glory days which is much more self center. Mr. Incredible even admitted such in the film. That's the big dilemma: Having all this power means in reality, you're the one who's making the choices for others and when is it time to something and do "nothing" as those like Mr. Incredible would easily be tempted to
Oddly enough, the "Viewpoint" part is supposed to be funny, but it ends up being sad. He didn't lose merely a fellow super nor a companion, but a friend. They teased, they bonded, they joked, they were hanging around probably having drinks and meals, chit chatting...and now it all suddenly ended.
@@josephmontanaro2350 I don't think so. Bob used a bit more expression in the voice than Robocop usually has. He was just imitating Gazer Beam to add immersion
I agree. This would've been a great opening. I mean they gave us a sad opening with Finding Nemo and Up.. it would've been interesting to see incredibles 2 with this opening.
Seemed like the whole conclusion of the first fight in incredibles 2 was very forced. I doubt the law would arrest the incredibles if they are the ones who stopped the drill, and defeated Underminer. I feel like they should have skipped over it and set this up as the beginning along with the aftermath of the Underminer fight.
Well remember, Underminer says at the end of 1 "to declare war on peace, and happiness". That's some astronomically high stakes and the sequel reduced him to a bank robber. Plus the omnidroid battle already worked to establish the supers as good in the public light. There was so much that would've needed to happen with the underminer and the sequel turned it to shit. This scene's so much better.
@@spencerallison3196 wait - who says that the opening of 2 was their first battle with the underminer? Mr. Incredible explicitly states, "we meet again".
I'm talking about The Under Miner's monologue at the end of the first movie, "I am beneath you, but nothing is beneath me. I am here to declare war! On peace, and happiness." The way he's used in the second movie, as a bank robber that Bob knows, doesn't make sense from the context built by the first movie.
Honestly to see that even Edna was grieving, I can't imagine how bad it must've been for her. Some of those supes wears costumes she made, and she often lecture them about "don't even think about being flashy", or "NO capes!" and etc... she really is like a mother for the superheroes. And now, she grieves for whole lot bunch of them...
It's sad cause she remembers the day, the year, and how they exactly died. She doesn't push them all behind her, she remembers them to warn other heroes and she refuses to forget her mistakes.
True; having costume malfunction is bad enough, but having to know the Supers she designed for were getting MURDERED by a Wannabe-Super, it must be more than painful.
And on top of everything else, she didn't even get the chance to redesign their costumes, leaving them to die in their "hobo suits". Not important to us I know (I was trying to be funny) but her designs are important to her, and since she cared about them you know she wouldn't want them to be seen in anything 20 years old.
The supers are supposed to be tough, however her stuff has to be even tougher. And the fact that she personally knew all of these guys strikes hard for someone like her where it is not only her job to know what benefits the superhero, but she actually get to know them on a deeper level as if she was a surrogate mom or a wise sassy Aunt.
Edna at the memorial makes sense when you recall how she could recite from memory the deaths of all the heroes who wore her caped supersuits. She cared about every one of the heroes, not just as "gods" she designed for, but as practically family.
In many ways Edna Mode was the Dr. Halsey for the Supers: pragmatic, efficient, and driven to bring about the best in people no matter what even if it means to bend or break laws to do it.
Movie should have really run with that idea as an over archign theme. A good way to add to it, perhaps later in the movie, would be something like, "It we don't properly guide the energy guiding us forward it will drive us in a bad, dangerous direction". Or something along those lines. Maybe instead of making the villain be another tech genius with a grudge against supers. Maybe give her actually hypno powers and instead of wanting to destroy supers forever make her want to be a hero, similar to Syndrome but instead of wanting to make eveyone super and get rid of heroes. She wants to control all supers and become the greatest of them all. I'm kinda making this up on the spot but the main idea is make her different from Syndrome in a way besides the fact she's female. Technically speaking even their end goals are the same as Syndrome wanted everyone to be super so that no one would be special. He was goign to get rid of supers by essentially making them obselete. She needed a more distinct endgoal.
This should have been in the movie. One of the things that I sort of dislike about THIS film is that it doesn't take into account how dozens of superheroes were murdered previously thanks to Syndrome trying to perfect the Omnidroid. This would have made it so that the heroes who died were not forgotten(and would have added some joy when we see the new heroes who meet with Elastigirl, to show that they're not all extinct.
With what was shown in this deleted scene, I’ve full reason to believe Syndrome never found the body, hence why it was left there. Gazerbeam must have died shortly after engraving the word to the cave wall, which was why the drone Syndrome likely sent after Gazerbeam reported he was terminated and so left him in the cave the same way he left Bob when he was believed to be dead.
Why would he have done that tho, he was trying to kill him and was happy when the drone reported that there was no life sign so there would've been no point in doing that.
@@dodowhisperer2114 Ok so you know how villains are a little self aware but still commit the same tropes as in fiction? "You sky dog, you got me monologuing!" Another trope is leaving people for dead when they very well could be alive. His bots say "yo man he dead" and he is just like "good, now for my next trick: phase 2 of me evil plan!"
Also Syndrome seems so genuinely surprised it happened, he's "geeking out about it". Buddy's real self is peeking through there, before the facade comes back.
We finally learn why his skeleton and carving weren’t removed after his death…. Syndrome made no attempt to retrieve his body just like he assumed Mr. Incredible was dead after his probe reported no life readings back….. Yet another huge mistake on his part!
someone should do a Incredibles comic based on the glory days to show us what happened during that time and maybe end it on Gazerbeam fighting the omnidroid and craving Kronos on the cave wall
I’m dumbfounded Disney hasn’t done anything in a series form about these superheroes, they could compete with the marvel heroes if given the right team
That scene were Mr Incredible looks onto syndrome's computer with all the super's their powers, supposed power level. Half the show's already done now all they need is a plot.
There’s so much untapped potential, I really wanna have comics that expand into the other hero teams such as The Phantasmics or even The Thrilling Three.
Like others I suspect that Disney - motivated by profit and marketability - pushed for a replica of Increadibles 1. Scenes like this remind me that there were artists and writers with real passion and inspiration who had the will to give us something great. A vision which existed ultimately only to be shot down in order to release the film a year early, and focus more on Jak Jak and his marketable superforms. Watching this scene just now I literally cried, perfectly immersed into the fallout of Increadibles 1, the weight of Syndrom's actions, and the tragedy that is superhero illegality. It sets up a plot looking to work for the legalization of supers with so much grace that the Underminer bit never could. It immediately establishes the themes of a family drama, as the Pars unpack boxes into a new life and a new home, one tinged with uncertianty but marked by hope. I love near every deleted scene from this film, more than the cinematic version. They're the hauntings of the work of art and passion that got painted over by the juggernaut of sequal cash grabs. I know we never will, but I wish we could get a redo on this movie. It deserves it.
yeah honestly we didnt need to see the Underminer fight, it being teased in the first movie was just to show that the family is now fighting as... well, a family
You got that right, Syndrome is no more but a man fanboy trap in a man body. The Incredibles Family has avenge him along with the rest of their super friends.
@@TheImaginator972 May I remind you that this monster was a monster that Mr. Incredible HELPED CREATE And all the blood shed by Sindrome is also on his hands!
These heroes were killed because of Mr. Incredible who helped create the Syndrome! The blood of these heroes' deaths is as much on Buddy's hands as it is on Bob's hands.
This scene was literally better than the entirety of incredibles 2, and actually recaptured what was great about the original. WHY WAS IT NOT INCLUDED?!
Incredibles 2 apparently had many different drafts and stories that were made but got cut or rewritten, this scene was probably one of those scenes that got cut as a result of the rewrite of the whole story.
Long story short, Toy Story 4's production was having issues, so Pixar swapped it's release date with Incredibles 2. TS4 got an extra year of development and Incredibles 2 lost a full year of production. So the script drafts had to be finished a lot earlier than intended.
This is such a powerful and amazing scene that perfectly captures the emotion of the first movie and the fact that it was cut is the first in a long list of reasons why the sequel is a complete and utter disappointment.
If only this was added to the Sequel... I mean, the scene also give Edna more screen time. She was the designer of superheroes costumes, she's the one who told them about what to do and not to do, like the "capes" for example. She was like a nosy, caring mother for them. And now, she grieves for whole lot bunch of them... all who just wants to be a hero again, to be needed once again.
I would really want a prequel to The Incredibles to showcase and tell the story of the “glory days” when Supers were at their peak. Have the ending or conclusion of when they started to get mowed down by Syndrome. I feel like their were so many supers that could have and should of their stories told. Time will tell though.
I feel like if they were to do this, I'd rather see them do a mini series. Kinda like how they do Disney Pixar shorts of their popular films. That way, they wouldn't try to fit too much into one movie or run the possibility of getting off track. Each episode could be about each Super or a separate episode about each member of the teams (since they were divided into teams in their days).
Maybe The Incredibles prequel short film about Gazerbeam's rise and fall. How he fits in with the Supers, fighting crimes in the Glory Days, and ends with him slowly dying from fighting one of Syndrome's Omnidroid, as he engraved a clue that helps Mr. Incredible on his journey to seek for the truth. Or put simply, maybe a plot about Gazerbeam dealing with another supervillain.
Imagine an R rated mini movie of how the dead supers fought the omnidroids and how they died. It would be interesting to see their powers and how they fought the omnidroids.
Tragic he’s gone but we won’t forget him ever Gazerbeam buddy you’ll be miss forever and thanks to you Sydrome is gone for good thanks to your support all the way right guys but rest easy Gazerbeam amazing hero of light you deserve it after saving millions of innocent civilians all the way right guys!
If Incredibles 2 wanted to begin on a somber but hopeful note, this could have been the way to do it. The speech going into how the young can be inspired to continue the good fight could introduce a slightly older Violet and Dash fighting a villain a few years after their hero debuts, for example.
This should have been the final scene. It would have shown Bob’s frustration through the movie for what it actually was. The superheroes were essentially a support group, and he was there, eagerly encouraging and supporting said people who were outcasted by society. Near the start of the movie, he protests to Helen about Dash not being able to be how he wanted to be. Helen perceives this as Bob using his kids as scapegoats and wanting to play. This scene, it shows he’s seen so many in Dash’s shoes, as they become more and more outcasted, but this time, for his own kid, he couldn’t help him. That was what frustrated him. Fleshes him out as a pretty damn deep character imo at least. Edit: lmao thought this was in Incredibles 1. Still, my point stands somewhat.
Assuming he tries to destroy the 5th Omnidroid but due to steel being installed after Syndrome spying on super’s movement and powers, his laser vision reflects to him which got him seriously wounded.
Pixar and Disney+ are just sitting on a potential gold mine here. In the special edition DVD set there were Super hero files, most of them with audio recordings of the various supers that inhabited The Incredibles universe to give the viewers a little taste of what they were like. They really should consider doing a tv series with an anthology vib where each episode focuses on a different superhero, tells us their origins, what they were like, how and why they become superheroes in the first place. Maybe have it with mini-episodes of 10 minutes and episode or full 30 minute episodes, the first few episodes could be centered around Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl and Frozone in the glory days before moving onto the other heroes, but the season finale would focus on Gazerbeam and they should base the episode on this deleted scene. Have it start with Simon Paladino struggling to have any connection with people because if he looked at them too intently he could hurt them so he'd have to look away and constantly be mistaken for being disinterested in other people, show him meeting Mr. Incredible, getting convinced to use his powers for good, we'd see him happy for once because now people understand why he can't look at them too intently while he's a superhero, show him befriending Winston Deavor's father and then we see how heartbroken he is when they ban superheroes and he'd forced to go under and forced to go back to being misunderstood. Then he gets a mysterious package from Mirage, his desire to go back into superhero work is exploited and eventually he finds out what Syndrome's planning but he's completely outmatched, he's mortally wounded and we see him carve out Kronos in his final moments before it transitions to Gazerbeam's skeletal remains and Mr. Incredible finding him. The episode then ends, with Superheros re-legalized and Mr. Incredible giving this Eulogy and saying that his sacrifice was the first domino that not only lead to Syndrome's downfall but also lead to Supers being re-legalized in the first place.
2:31 a excellent analogy there; not only do powerful engines not like to idle all day, some of them can actually be heavily damaged or destroyed by it, especially engines equipped with cylinder deactivation technology. (I’m looking at YOU GM Active Fuel Management and Dodge Multiple Displacement System!)
this scene should have been included! it has a proper backstory and ending to gazerbeam's journey as a super and how supers being made illegal affected the rest of the supers as well!
This should've been the opening, great way to recap the first movie, expanding on a minor character that was effectively a plot point to cover a way to continue the story, and giving credence on what the core of the second movie should have been
Disney went soft when they dropped this scene..yall remember Finding Nemo and Up? They forgot what they started in the first place by animated films that touched us with emotions
This scene wasn’t as dark as those, it was subtly dark but more depressing and unsettling, don’t get me wrong it is still a little dark but it’s more unsettling to me seeing the aftermath of what Syndrome has caused, while superhero work may seem like a child’s dream, it’s one of the most dangerous jobs that could depend on your life or others around you.
The first time I saw this, I asked "Why was this even deleted? I thought It would've been the perfect scene, and it's perfect enough to be added to the incredible series, pun intended."
@@AOTVProductions I can agree with that. It kind of does drag a bit and doesn’t really add much to the film overall I did like the callback to Syndrome though
The return of Syndrome, after the revelation of him miraculously surviving the jet crash, would be an amazing plot for the 3rd Incredible's movie. In this scenario, this scene would fit quite well, as I sensed a notable lack of memory regarding Syndrome's mass murders in the 2nd film
I think a series about each super that was killed by Syndrome and prototype robot would be cool. It could also give more backstory about Syndrome and how he got the money for his machines and private army.
Really wished this was the intro scene to Incredibles 2. It sets up the tone about Supers are still in hiding and how it would eventually change that. But understandly, it would also affect the mole villain intro from the ending of the first film and the intro for the second
From what this tells us about Gazerbeam he was like a cross between Cyclops(which whom they based the character on) and Daredevil( job proffesion-wise)
R.I.P.: Gazerbeam Stormicide Psycwave Vectress Everseer Macroburst Phylange Blazestone Downburst Hypershock Apogee Blitzerman Tradewind Gamma Jack Not to mention: Thunderhead Stratogale Meta Man Dynaguy Splashdown and Universal Man
While I can understand why this scene was deleted, I would have liked it kept. Watching the first movie, I wanted to know more about Gazerbeam, how he got to the cave, and what kind of a hero he was. This scene really fleshed him out.
Whatever families and close friends the fallen superheroes had must've been devastated. I can imagine Gazerbeam's partner just crying their eyes out and holding their children (if they had any) close to them. May he and the other fallen heroes rest in peace.
How did this got deleted this is amazing! A great call back to the first movie and an awesome opening to the next. (I mean it did retconned a bit since Mr. Incredible clearly stated that "he works alone" in the first movie)
@@rpmguy648I think what it is, is that Mr. Incredible and Frozone can work together perfectly fine, heck they even come across each other from time to time when they go their own ways, this was shown in the first movie. Gamma Jack has too much of a narcissistic personality, so that could’ve led to him leaving the group. Gazerbeam probably didn’t like how the group couldn’t work together so he went to go join the Phantasmics instead
I mean, he can still primarily be a solo hero, but team up from time to time to deal with certain issues. It doesn't have to be completely mutually exclusive. The superhero community was just that, a community. One we are shown Bob was deeply involved with.
I don't think "I work alone" was his real attitude: when he says it to Helen he's joking about how they're going to get married later that day and when he says it to Buddy he's trying to keep the kid away from the dangers of the superhero life (or was just annoyed with him).
This is such a beautiful, tragic, powerfully emotional scene I understand it was likely cut for time... But it adds so much weight. My personal hope is that we get a prequel film or even series that puts these wonderful characters to use.
I’d love to see a comic about Kronos. How Buddy got his money and took down the other superheroes up until the point Mr Incredible came in. That would be a dark comic but I would definitely read it
The sequel ends up focusing much more on humorous parts and a boring plot with twists and turns where you already know who the villain will be. The film stray far from the political issues or individual dramas of the characters in the first film. I don't think it's a bad film, but for me The Incredibles 2 is a pretty dispensable sequel.
I really wish this scene was in the movie, its both a great scene and a legit haunting one too. Being able to actually see Syndrome killing Gazerbeam, something that we never got to see happen on-screen, its haunting.
This had me CRYING, the entire incredibles 2 had me bored out of my mind. It's crazy how one scene is better than the entire Incredibles 2. It's a shame pixar lost its charm.
Wish that they included this. It's realistic, relatable, and addresses to how persons deal with the loss of a close friend. And even though the man is a superhero, he was still human like all of us. Like Bob said, he wanted to be useful, just like most of us. Plus, the speech is inspirational. Why is it that the best ideas they come up in movies end up not being used?
I agree, deleting this scene was insult-to-injury as the villain's plot for Incredibles 2 was horribly unrealistic and sketchy, a lot of people have called out how terribly written and nonsensical the Villain was especially how the decoy was "tracked down".
They beefed this movie so bad, a scene like this would've done so much to ground it, Incredibles 2 just felt like an emotionless rehash of the plotline of the first one, had a few good gags but other than that no improvement
honestly if incredbles 2 went for a more serious story rather than the more happier one wehave, this scene would fit i can see why it got scrapped, REAL tonal shift from the incredibles 2 we got
What if Gazerbeam was helping Syndrome to locate all the heroes and later learned Syndrome did it just to kille everyone. That might explain why he knew the password
Gazerbeam really needs to be elevated more in the universe. Like it be so awesome if they made a Glory Days series giving a prominent role to Gazerbeam(among other heroes) and also leading up to the 1st movie when he goes to the Island
This should’ve been in the movie. Gazerbeam deserves to be talked about in the franchise
Fr tho, mans a goat
He knew Syndrome would lure other supers and he carved Kronos hoping someone would see he’s the goat.
Fr it would have made so much sense when he meet his skeleton and we as an audience would care more about him
and we could've seen how Syndrome's Jimmy Neutron hair would be animated with more advanced technology
No it shouldn’t
Seeing Gazerbeam carve Kronos into the wall... he was pragmatic. He knew that others would be lured... and he died hoping someone would find him and his clue.
he didnt even died wanting to be found, he died wanting to help: A true hero, till his last breath
It was a password for a computer (KRONOS)
A moment of silence for his sacrifice.
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@@elreydelosgolemsdenieve9848 very much
I like that they made Gazerbeam an odd ball. Normally with these eulogies they talk about how fun and funny they were, so it was interesting to see them diverge from that trope.
that said i refuse to believe they were the ones that suggested the name gazerbeam. i guess man was ahead his time with the name viewpoint
@@theshuman100 Which is funny because Gazerbeam does feel like some early superhero days esque name while viewpoint just sounds like a more creative name.
@@matijasostojic4288 given they are emulating the 50s and 60s aesthetics, gazerbeam would make more sense. It's meant to be golden/silver age stuff
Yeah, I like it when a eulogy has the guts to talk about the negatives of the deceased, not just the positives. Makes it feel like an actual celebration of the person as a whole rather than just the parts everyone liked
@@georgemccartney8906It’s not a negative though. He was just a serious fellow who felt like an outcast. That’s not a negative at all.
1:15 "We had a club. The first club that wanted him to join." I like that line.
This is actually a really neat bit of continuity with the NSA Superhero interviews. In those, it’s explained that Gazerbeam actually joined the Thrilling Three very briefly, taking over as team leader after Dynaguy died in his suit accident.
The team ended up actually disbanding shortly afterward because, as Apogee put it, “it was really the Thrilling One + Two in Gazerbeam’s mind…”
I don't understand why THIS was removed??? Mr. Incredible's speech was so powerful and moving and it strongly connected the first film to the second film.
Hopefully if they make a third one they add it in.
@@roxtechs Hopefully.
This would have helped the 2nd film.
It was a matter of pacing
Definitely should’ve been in the second movie, if not the first
Sadly I think it was concerns for pacing as they couldn’t figure out a place to fit it. A real shame, it’s too good to be cut.
Now Let's Take A Moment to Remember:
• Gazerbeam.
• Stormicide.
• Psycwave.
• Vectress.
• Everseer.
• Macroburst.
• Phylange.
• Blazestone.
• Downburst.
• Hypershock.
• Apogee.
• Blitzerman.
• Tradewind.
• Gamma Jack.
and all of the other heroes we've lost in this tragedy, all of the supers who died wanted only to help
That is why you and your family and your friends are my Disney superheroes. Thank you Mr Incredible
@@ericsantana1184 you're welcome
While that's true, you could also argue that many of them did it to relive the glory days which is much more self center. Mr. Incredible even admitted such in the film. That's the big dilemma: Having all this power means in reality, you're the one who's making the choices for others and when is it time to something and do "nothing" as those like Mr. Incredible would easily be tempted to
They forgot Universal Man
Oddly enough, the "Viewpoint" part is supposed to be funny, but it ends up being sad. He didn't lose merely a fellow super nor a companion, but a friend. They teased, they bonded, they joked, they were hanging around probably having drinks and meals, chit chatting...and now it all suddenly ended.
Is the voice ment to parody robo cop kr am I overanalizeing?
@@josephmontanaro2350 I don't think so. Bob used a bit more expression in the voice than Robocop usually has. He was just imitating Gazer Beam to add immersion
Not even just gazer beam but everyone except mr incredible is dead
@@Man77772 Frozone is still alive
@@Fooooobar true
No doubt, they made Gazerbeam as iconic in his universe, as Cyclops is in the marvel universe
True
They made him the 4th person you think of when someone mentions a group with thousands of members
This should've been the opening scene.
I agree. This would've been a great opening. I mean they gave us a sad opening with Finding Nemo and Up.. it would've been interesting to see incredibles 2 with this opening.
Seemed like the whole conclusion of the first fight in incredibles 2 was very forced. I doubt the law would arrest the incredibles if they are the ones who stopped the drill, and defeated Underminer. I feel like they should have skipped over it and set this up as the beginning along with the aftermath of the Underminer fight.
Well remember, Underminer says at the end of 1 "to declare war on peace, and happiness". That's some astronomically high stakes and the sequel reduced him to a bank robber. Plus the omnidroid battle already worked to establish the supers as good in the public light. There was so much that would've needed to happen with the underminer and the sequel turned it to shit. This scene's so much better.
@@spencerallison3196 wait - who says that the opening of 2 was their first battle with the underminer? Mr. Incredible explicitly states, "we meet again".
I'm talking about The Under Miner's monologue at the end of the first movie, "I am beneath you, but nothing is beneath me. I am here to declare war! On peace, and happiness." The way he's used in the second movie, as a bank robber that Bob knows, doesn't make sense from the context built by the first movie.
Honestly to see that even Edna was grieving, I can't imagine how bad it must've been for her. Some of those supes wears costumes she made, and she often lecture them about "don't even think about being flashy", or "NO capes!" and etc... she really is like a mother for the superheroes. And now, she grieves for whole lot bunch of them...
It's sad cause she remembers the day, the year, and how they exactly died. She doesn't push them all behind her, she remembers them to warn other heroes and she refuses to forget her mistakes.
True; having costume malfunction is bad enough, but having to know the Supers she designed for were getting MURDERED by a Wannabe-Super, it must be more than painful.
And on top of everything else, she didn't even get the chance to redesign their costumes, leaving them to die in their "hobo suits".
Not important to us I know (I was trying to be funny) but her designs are important to her, and since she cared about them you know she wouldn't want them to be seen in anything 20 years old.
I could see her and Gazerbeam having a *special* relationship given alotta their character traits seem to be autism-coded
The supers are supposed to be tough, however her stuff has to be even tougher. And the fact that she personally knew all of these guys strikes hard for someone like her where it is not only her job to know what benefits the superhero, but she actually get to know them on a deeper level as if she was a surrogate mom or a wise sassy Aunt.
Edna at the memorial makes sense when you recall how she could recite from memory the deaths of all the heroes who wore her caped supersuits. She cared about every one of the heroes, not just as "gods" she designed for, but as practically family.
In many ways Edna Mode was the Dr. Halsey for the Supers: pragmatic, efficient, and driven to bring about the best in people no matter what even if it means to bend or break laws to do it.
If you block energy from driving us forward the same energy will gladly drive us backwards - What a powerful quote
Movie should have really run with that idea as an over archign theme.
A good way to add to it, perhaps later in the movie, would be something like, "It we don't properly guide the energy guiding us forward it will drive us in a bad, dangerous direction". Or something along those lines.
Maybe instead of making the villain be another tech genius with a grudge against supers. Maybe give her actually hypno powers and instead of wanting to destroy supers forever make her want to be a hero, similar to Syndrome but instead of wanting to make eveyone super and get rid of heroes. She wants to control all supers and become the greatest of them all.
I'm kinda making this up on the spot but the main idea is make her different from Syndrome in a way besides the fact she's female. Technically speaking even their end goals are the same as Syndrome wanted everyone to be super so that no one would be special. He was goign to get rid of supers by essentially making them obselete.
She needed a more distinct endgoal.
Why wasn't this in the movie?
This should have been in the movie.
One of the things that I sort of dislike about THIS film is that it doesn't take into account how dozens of superheroes were murdered previously thanks to Syndrome trying to perfect the Omnidroid. This would have made it so that the heroes who died were not forgotten(and would have added some joy when we see the new heroes who meet with Elastigirl, to show that they're not all extinct.
These theories of Syndrome putting the body in the cave to trick Bob, is giving him way too much credit he's smart but not that smart
With what was shown in this deleted scene, I’ve full reason to believe Syndrome never found the body, hence why it was left there. Gazerbeam must have died shortly after engraving the word to the cave wall, which was why the drone Syndrome likely sent after Gazerbeam reported he was terminated and so left him in the cave the same way he left Bob when he was believed to be dead.
Why would he have done that tho, he was trying to kill him and was happy when the drone reported that there was no life sign so there would've been no point in doing that.
Syndrome is smart but his ego is bigger than his brain. Victory was assured! He was satisfied with a successful test. Time to go home
@@dodowhisperer2114 Ok so you know how villains are a little self aware but still commit the same tropes as in fiction? "You sky dog, you got me monologuing!" Another trope is leaving people for dead when they very well could be alive. His bots say "yo man he dead" and he is just like "good, now for my next trick: phase 2 of me evil plan!"
Also Syndrome seems so genuinely surprised it happened, he's "geeking out about it". Buddy's real self is peeking through there, before the facade comes back.
We finally learn why his skeleton and carving weren’t removed after his death…. Syndrome made no attempt to retrieve his body just like he assumed Mr. Incredible was dead after his probe reported no life readings back…..
Yet another huge mistake on his part!
Pride is Syndromes weakness
No mr incredible is still alive
@@RowanH-tb1rvidiot do you not know what asssume means
@@RowanH-tb1rvyou can’t read can you?
arrogance - the downfall of many a villain
A deleted scene that SHOULD have been in the movie. I hope for Incredibles 3 to be made & i hope this scene will be in it somehow.
Don't get your hopes up now with Woke Disney being in charge.
@@rcbarrientos6109 Jesse what the fuck are you talking about
@@rcbarrientos6109Don't worry hopefully Brad Bird won't let that happen.
@@rcbarrientos6109triggered
The part that irritates me the most is the fact that this bastard Mr. Incredible ignores or hides the fact that HE HELPED CREATE THIS "BAD MAN"
someone should do a Incredibles comic based on the glory days to show us what happened during that time and maybe end it on Gazerbeam fighting the omnidroid and craving Kronos on the cave wall
I would love that
I’m dumbfounded Disney hasn’t done anything in a series form about these superheroes, they could compete with the marvel heroes if given the right team
That scene were Mr Incredible looks onto syndrome's computer with all the super's their powers, supposed power level. Half the show's already done now all they need is a plot.
There are animated shows based on movies, like how to train your dragon. I believe Incredibles deserve it too. But it should be Glory days era.
There’s so much untapped potential, I really wanna have comics that expand into the other hero teams such as The Phantasmics or even The Thrilling Three.
Gazerbeam played a huge part in the first film! This scene was perfect
People being saying “oh the incredibles saved the day by destroying the omnidrod” but nah gazerbeam was the real hero
@@Jackalmercenary-t7y He was one the 1st killed by Syndrome right?
@@darkdragon7210 No not that I remember
Like others I suspect that Disney - motivated by profit and marketability - pushed for a replica of Increadibles 1. Scenes like this remind me that there were artists and writers with real passion and inspiration who had the will to give us something great. A vision which existed ultimately only to be shot down in order to release the film a year early, and focus more on Jak Jak and his marketable superforms.
Watching this scene just now I literally cried, perfectly immersed into the fallout of Increadibles 1, the weight of Syndrom's actions, and the tragedy that is superhero illegality. It sets up a plot looking to work for the legalization of supers with so much grace that the Underminer bit never could. It immediately establishes the themes of a family drama, as the Pars unpack boxes into a new life and a new home, one tinged with uncertianty but marked by hope.
I love near every deleted scene from this film, more than the cinematic version. They're the hauntings of the work of art and passion that got painted over by the juggernaut of sequal cash grabs.
I know we never will, but I wish we could get a redo on this movie. It deserves it.
Agreed, the actual movie was such a disappointment for me but deleted scenes like this showed the potential it had
yeah honestly we didnt need to see the Underminer fight, it being teased in the first movie was just to show that the family is now fighting as... well, a family
@@jefferyandbob3137It’s so frustrating that people didn’t get that. For decades.
Well, at least Bob Parr as Mr. Incredible avenged the lost of the original superheroes killed by Syndrome.
You got that right, Syndrome is no more but a man fanboy trap in a man body. The Incredibles Family has avenge him along with the rest of their super friends.
@@TheImaginator972 if only there was that vanish movie
@@TheImaginator972 May I remind you that this monster was a monster that Mr. Incredible HELPED CREATE
And all the blood shed by Sindrome is also on his hands!
These heroes were killed because of Mr. Incredible who helped create the Syndrome!
The blood of these heroes' deaths is as much on Buddy's hands as it is on Bob's hands.
Bad people are bad out of their own volition, Bob Parr didn't force him to do it
This scene was literally better than the entirety of incredibles 2, and actually recaptured what was great about the original. WHY WAS IT NOT INCLUDED?!
Incredibles 2 apparently had many different drafts and stories that were made but got cut or rewritten, this scene was probably one of those scenes that got cut as a result of the rewrite of the whole story.
Long story short, Toy Story 4's production was having issues, so Pixar swapped it's release date with Incredibles 2. TS4 got an extra year of development and Incredibles 2 lost a full year of production. So the script drafts had to be finished a lot earlier than intended.
Cuz Disney and Pixar sucks now
You wonder why you waited so long for something so disappointing. The incredibles 2 wasn't that good
@@batmanrocks6727 i blame Bob Iger
This should have been an after credits scene.
Or the intro to open up Incredibles 2
It kinda would make a plot hole because at 3:01 that would contradict the ending where they become legal.
@@dodowhisperer21141 year late, but they could easily make it a flashback or something like that
This is such a powerful and amazing scene that perfectly captures the emotion of the first movie and the fact that it was cut is the first in a long list of reasons why the sequel is a complete and utter disappointment.
If only this was added to the Sequel...
I mean, the scene also give Edna more screen time. She was the designer of superheroes costumes, she's the one who told them about what to do and not to do, like the "capes" for example. She was like a nosy, caring mother for them. And now, she grieves for whole lot bunch of them... all who just wants to be a hero again, to be needed once again.
I like the sequel, but man this scene is so good.
The sequel isn’t a total disappointment, but this scene definitely should have been in the movie.
@@boudreauxlee8090 you'll eat anything
I think gazerbeam is autistic
I would really want a prequel to The Incredibles to showcase and tell the story of the “glory days” when Supers were at their peak. Have the ending or conclusion of when they started to get mowed down by Syndrome. I feel like their were so many supers that could have and should of their stories told. Time will tell though.
Read watchmen
Yeah and there is already so much lore behind thanks to the first movie dvd, all of them are so well characterized
That’s not what incredibles is about though
I feel like if they were to do this, I'd rather see them do a mini series. Kinda like how they do Disney Pixar shorts of their popular films. That way, they wouldn't try to fit too much into one movie or run the possibility of getting off track. Each episode could be about each Super or a separate episode about each member of the teams (since they were divided into teams in their days).
Agreed
Gazerbeam deserves his own movie
Mabie they will make a short movie about him and all the others
We need an incredibles cinematic universe
I mean after the mess that was the 2nd movie I kinda hope they just let the franchise rest
If only we get The Incredibles animated series similar to how Disney made Big Hero 6 series, I would LOVED to see The Incredibles show.
Maybe The Incredibles prequel short film about Gazerbeam's rise and fall. How he fits in with the Supers, fighting crimes in the Glory Days, and ends with him slowly dying from fighting one of Syndrome's Omnidroid, as he engraved a clue that helps Mr. Incredible on his journey to seek for the truth.
Or put simply, maybe a plot about Gazerbeam dealing with another supervillain.
Imagine an R rated mini movie of how the dead supers fought the omnidroids and how they died. It would be interesting to see their powers and how they fought the omnidroids.
Tragic he’s gone but we won’t forget him ever Gazerbeam buddy you’ll be miss forever and thanks to you Sydrome is gone for good thanks to your support all the way right guys but rest easy Gazerbeam amazing hero of light you deserve it after saving millions of innocent civilians all the way right guys!
I can't believe Incrediboy (Syndrome) kills Gazerbeam 😢
If Incredibles 2 wanted to begin on a somber but hopeful note, this could have been the way to do it. The speech going into how the young can be inspired to continue the good fight could introduce a slightly older Violet and Dash fighting a villain a few years after their hero debuts, for example.
This should have been the final scene. It would have shown Bob’s frustration through the movie for what it actually was.
The superheroes were essentially a support group, and he was there, eagerly encouraging and supporting said people who were outcasted by society.
Near the start of the movie, he protests to Helen about Dash not being able to be how he wanted to be. Helen perceives this as Bob using his kids as scapegoats and wanting to play.
This scene, it shows he’s seen so many in Dash’s shoes, as they become more and more outcasted, but this time, for his own kid, he couldn’t help him. That was what frustrated him.
Fleshes him out as a pretty damn deep character imo at least.
Edit: lmao thought this was in Incredibles 1. Still, my point stands somewhat.
😅
Assuming he tries to destroy the 5th Omnidroid but due to steel being installed after Syndrome spying on super’s movement and powers, his laser vision reflects to him which got him seriously wounded.
Gone but never forgotten rest in peace gazerbeam you will be missed.
I feel that Gazerbeam was one of the most noble superhero in the world of the Incredibles
I think he is a great adaptation of Superman/Clark Kent
Pixar and Disney+ are just sitting on a potential gold mine here. In the special edition DVD set there were Super hero files, most of them with audio recordings of the various supers that inhabited The Incredibles universe to give the viewers a little taste of what they were like. They really should consider doing a tv series with an anthology vib where each episode focuses on a different superhero, tells us their origins, what they were like, how and why they become superheroes in the first place. Maybe have it with mini-episodes of 10 minutes and episode or full 30 minute episodes, the first few episodes could be centered around Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl and Frozone in the glory days before moving onto the other heroes, but the season finale would focus on Gazerbeam and they should base the episode on this deleted scene.
Have it start with Simon Paladino struggling to have any connection with people because if he looked at them too intently he could hurt them so he'd have to look away and constantly be mistaken for being disinterested in other people, show him meeting Mr. Incredible, getting convinced to use his powers for good, we'd see him happy for once because now people understand why he can't look at them too intently while he's a superhero, show him befriending Winston Deavor's father and then we see how heartbroken he is when they ban superheroes and he'd forced to go under and forced to go back to being misunderstood.
Then he gets a mysterious package from Mirage, his desire to go back into superhero work is exploited and eventually he finds out what Syndrome's planning but he's completely outmatched, he's mortally wounded and we see him carve out Kronos in his final moments before it transitions to Gazerbeam's skeletal remains and Mr. Incredible finding him. The episode then ends, with Superheros re-legalized and Mr. Incredible giving this Eulogy and saying that his sacrifice was the first domino that not only lead to Syndrome's downfall but also lead to Supers being re-legalized in the first place.
I wouldn't trust Disney Pixar to do the franchise justice again, even with a show.
I wish that this could have been in the movie,it would have given it a perfect ending
2:31 a excellent analogy there; not only do powerful engines not like to idle all day, some of them can actually be heavily damaged or destroyed by it, especially engines equipped with cylinder deactivation technology. (I’m looking at YOU GM Active Fuel Management and Dodge Multiple Displacement System!)
this scene should have been included! it has a proper backstory and ending to gazerbeam's journey as a super and how supers being made illegal affected the rest of the supers as well!
This should've been the opening, great way to recap the first movie, expanding on a minor character that was effectively a plot point to cover a way to continue the story, and giving credence on what the core of the second movie should have been
Disney went soft when they dropped this scene..yall remember Finding Nemo and Up? They forgot what they started in the first place by animated films that touched us with emotions
This scene wasn’t as dark as those, it was subtly dark but more depressing and unsettling, don’t get me wrong it is still a little dark but it’s more unsettling to me seeing the aftermath of what Syndrome has caused, while superhero work may seem like a child’s dream, it’s one of the most dangerous jobs that could depend on your life or others around you.
"But he liked that we were interested in him, giving him names and arguing about them" hits so close to home
The first time I saw this, I asked "Why was this even deleted? I thought It would've been the perfect scene, and it's perfect enough to be added to the incredible series, pun intended."
this wouldve really helped the tone of the movie that it lacked
WHY THE HELL WAS THIS CUT?!?!?
Brad Bird said that it didn’t set the right tone for the movie so they deleted it
@@AOTVProductions I can agree with that.
It kind of does drag a bit and doesn’t really add much to the film overall
I did like the callback to Syndrome though
Yes, this should have been included in the film, after the villain was arrested and before the judge declared the rights for Supers to be restored.
@@msdrop6735 the villan was killed in a turbine jet
@@RandomContentGeneratorr I meant the villain from the 2nd film, we all know Syndrome was killed by his own cape.🙄
This would've been a real tearjerker of an opening if they kept it in.
I raise my glass to Gazerbeam, the one who does have the super hero rights for the entire Metroville City. He’s my favorite hero.
2:48 I like how Mr. Incredible has clearly learned from his mistake with Syndrome.
The return of Syndrome, after the revelation of him miraculously surviving the jet crash, would be an amazing plot for the 3rd Incredible's movie. In this scenario, this scene would fit quite well, as I sensed a notable lack of memory regarding Syndrome's mass murders in the 2nd film
I think a series about each super that was killed by Syndrome and prototype robot would be cool.
It could also give more backstory about Syndrome and how he got the money for his machines and private army.
Really wished this was the intro scene to Incredibles 2. It sets up the tone about Supers are still in hiding and how it would eventually change that. But understandly, it would also affect the mole villain intro from the ending of the first film and the intro for the second
while I like the final product... this should have been the opening scene. just have Deavor watching from the back, and we've got it made
Or at the end of the movie or a post credit scene
The whole movie should have taken place months after the end of the first one, the miner sequence was so dumb
@@iLikeBigBotsAndiCanNotLieNo it doesn't work as an ending scene or a post credit scene
It would’ve been more impactful, considering we later learn Winston’s dad was close friends with both Gazerbeam and Fironic.
And probably Dynaguy as well, given how he had a statue of him built, when he died.
From what this tells us about Gazerbeam he was like a cross between Cyclops(which whom they based the character on) and Daredevil( job proffesion-wise)
bruh the deleted scene is more captivating than the damn movie itself
I think Stan Lee would have loved Gazerbeam. Gazerbeam was a tribute to Cyclops. 😊
It’s unforgivable that this wasn’t in the movie
R.I.P.:
Gazerbeam
Stormicide
Psycwave
Vectress
Everseer
Macroburst
Phylange
Blazestone
Downburst
Hypershock
Apogee
Blitzerman
Tradewind
Gamma Jack
Not to mention:
Thunderhead
Stratogale
Meta Man
Dynaguy
Splashdown
and Universal Man
Also Not to Mention:
Plasmabolt
Fironic
@@hervatianimation3710 All heroes we're lost in this tragic
Splashdown didn't die. Officially according to NSA files Splashdown is M.I.A. Missing in Action. He may still be alive.
@@hervatianimation3710 Plasmabolt has been confirmed to still be alive and Fironic didn't get drawn into Project Kronos
😢😢😢
What a good ending.
Movies need this level of passion of love for the story characters.
I wish this would have been in the film!!
This would have easily been the best scene in the movie
While I can understand why this scene was deleted, I would have liked it kept. Watching the first movie, I wanted to know more about Gazerbeam, how he got to the cave, and what kind of a hero he was. This scene really fleshed him out.
Whatever families and close friends the fallen superheroes had must've been devastated.
I can imagine Gazerbeam's partner just crying their eyes out and holding their children (if they had any) close to them.
May he and the other fallen heroes rest in peace.
That is a sad yet a beautiful scene 😢
Honestly I understand why they deleted this scene. It felt more like a ending then a beginning. A neutral ending really.
I see it differently; it's more like the close of one Chapter that will be followed with Another that the Movie would begin with.
You’re not wrong. It might have fit in better in the first movie, between Syndrome’s death and Dash’s race.
I resent that this was a deleted scene. This was so well made, it absolutely should have been included in the film.
Dang, this scene hits so hard, wish we could of scene the whole finished scene
Syndrome was the Ultimate Villain that Mr. Incredible made. 😢
How did this got deleted this is amazing! A great call back to the first movie and an awesome opening to the next.
(I mean it did retconned a bit since Mr. Incredible clearly stated that "he works alone" in the first movie)
"Maybe you need to be a bit more... flexible"
It's possible that something horrible happened that made him quit the group and get his "I work alone" montra.
@@rpmguy648I think what it is, is that Mr. Incredible and Frozone can work together perfectly fine, heck they even come across each other from time to time when they go their own ways, this was shown in the first movie. Gamma Jack has too much of a narcissistic personality, so that could’ve led to him leaving the group. Gazerbeam probably didn’t like how the group couldn’t work together so he went to go join the Phantasmics instead
I mean, he can still primarily be a solo hero, but team up from time to time to deal with certain issues. It doesn't have to be completely mutually exclusive.
The superhero community was just that, a community. One we are shown Bob was deeply involved with.
I don't think "I work alone" was his real attitude: when he says it to Helen he's joking about how they're going to get married later that day and when he says it to Buddy he's trying to keep the kid away from the dangers of the superhero life (or was just annoyed with him).
The fact Incredibles 2 could even imply there was an Incredibles style Justice League showed what potential this movie had.
It really makes all the supers deaths in the previous movie feel impactful and meaningful to everyone here and how it wasn't just a side count.
Looks Good intro for Incredibles 3
I agree! As a little prologue before the Judge restores the rights for Supers.
If there a new movie for it. Pixar need to remember to add that and more emotional moment that may sucker punch in the gut
If there a new movie for it. Pixar need to remember to add that and more emotional moment that may sucker punch in the gut
This is such a beautiful, tragic, powerfully emotional scene I understand it was likely cut for time... But it adds so much weight.
My personal hope is that we get a prequel film or even series that puts these wonderful characters to use.
He was a good superhero
I wish we got to see more of Mr. Incredible, Frozone, Gamma Jack and Gazerbeam's little friend group.
Sadly 2 were lost and 2 were left to mourn
gazerbeam almost looks like buddy holly and that makes this hit closer to home
I’d love to see a comic about Kronos. How Buddy got his money and took down the other superheroes up until the point Mr Incredible came in. That would be a dark comic but I would definitely read it
This is a beautiful service. It would have made a great opener for The Incredibles 2.
Rip gazerbeam you will be remember
They should fire every single person that decided to cut that scene.
“A bad man exploited that desire.”
A bad man that YOU created.
I wish the movie took this approach to things, I miss the adult themes and tone of the movie it was the best part and keeps me coming back
The sequel ends up focusing much more on humorous parts and a boring plot with twists and turns where you already know who the villain will be. The film stray far from the political issues or individual dramas of the characters in the first film. I don't think it's a bad film, but for me The Incredibles 2 is a pretty dispensable sequel.
Now Incredibles 3 is in the works, i better hope that Brad Bird puts this scene in the 3rd film.
I really wish this scene was in the movie, its both a great scene and a legit haunting one too. Being able to actually see Syndrome killing Gazerbeam, something that we never got to see happen on-screen, its haunting.
Seeing Syndrome and GazerBeam with a much more updated render would've been cool to see.
This had me CRYING, the entire incredibles 2 had me bored out of my mind. It's crazy how one scene is better than the entire Incredibles 2. It's a shame pixar lost its charm.
Wish that they included this. It's realistic, relatable, and addresses to how persons deal with the loss of a close friend. And even though the man is a superhero, he was still human like all of us. Like Bob said, he wanted to be useful, just like most of us. Plus, the speech is inspirational.
Why is it that the best ideas they come up in movies end up not being used?
I agree, deleting this scene was insult-to-injury as the villain's plot for Incredibles 2 was horribly unrealistic and sketchy, a lot of people have called out how terribly written and nonsensical the Villain was especially how the decoy was "tracked down".
Brad bird really said “this is the best scene of the movie let’s leave it out”
To be fair, I'm pretty sure that Disney was the one who had more say in the creative decisions for this second film.
Jesus christ this was just gut wrenching, it's a crime this was left out
They beefed this movie so bad, a scene like this would've done so much to ground it, Incredibles 2 just felt like an emotionless rehash of the plotline of the first one, had a few good gags but other than that no improvement
本当にゲイザービームは良い奴だったよね…スーパーヒーローの人権を護るために戦って、昔の仲間に希望を託し、餓死するなんてさ
This scene was too real that it had to be deleted
What a great scene. Wish it was in the movie.
This was chilling.
This would have made the sequel so much better with its inclusion.. I will never understand why they didn't add it.
honestly if incredbles 2 went for a more serious story rather than the more happier one wehave, this scene would fit
i can see why it got scrapped, REAL tonal shift from the incredibles 2 we got
What if Gazerbeam was helping Syndrome to locate all the heroes and later learned Syndrome did it just to kille everyone. That might explain why he knew the password
No, with his vision he can see through things. He saw through the wall somebody type the passcode on the computer.
Gazerbeam really needs to be elevated more in the universe. Like it be so awesome if they made a Glory Days series giving a prominent role to Gazerbeam(among other heroes) and also leading up to the 1st movie when he goes to the Island
im with you that sounds amazing
I love how we can see supers like gamma Jack here !
This should be the opening scene for Incredibles 3.
Good idea
I am extremely grateful that I get to see this but this would’ve made the Incredibles 2 movie so morbid
Gazerbeam and all the other Supers who have passed live on…through Jack Jack.
This scene better be in Incredibles 3
I just started crying when they named every hero. I wish they kept it, or even made it a short
The third hero with Mr incredible and Frozone was Gamma Jack