What a joke🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️..... U can't call the same exact unit Loki and Odin... Wtf🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️... Fire your marketing exec... That just silly... Could've been HUGINN and MUNINN... that of been nice
The naming is for the kits, not the blower. Both use the Odin supercharger. The Loki "kit" is the different configuration. It's worked out very well for us.
The comment I was looking for. They just used Loki/Odin which is the same as stage 1/stage 2 in a sense. They were trying to be creative. Should have saved the name Loki for the next gen of this blower. So yes, marketing team fail! Get your shit together!
If you install the VMP triple pass heat exchanger without the fans, what kind of IATs would you have sitting in traffic vs with the fans? Some would argue the fans only benefit when sitting in traffic and when the vehicle is moving the fans then become a restriction. What do you guys think?
Hi JT, we find that the fans keep the temperature rise well under control in normal driving and help with recovery after a pull. We haven't seen them act as a restriction at highway speeds in use. The fans are two 11" Spal units that are very efficient and are minimally restrictive to the airflow at cruising speeds.
Hey Juan! The new Mach 1 would utilize the Odin kit for '18+ Mustang. Give us a call to the shop or shoot us an email to sales@vmpperformance.com and we can walk you through the specifics for your vehicle. Look forward to working with you!
Hey Jason! That's right where an Odin kit lands depending on the quality of the 93 octane fuel. We've seen mid-high 600s to low 700s on repeat with every install at the shop. The Odin kit comes with every component you need for the installation. Only separate purchases would be a tuning device, such as an RTD on 18+ vehicles, and the HP Tuners credits. We even include a tune file as part of your kit purchase.
To run E85, you'll need a return style fuel system like our VMP Plug and Play system. The fuel volume demand with E85 goes up about 30% and is more than the stock system can handle.
No. The adapter plate included with the Loki kit is designed specifically for the stock throttle body and the angle of the CAI tube will not align with the inlet of the supercharger.
Both kits deliver fantastic drivability with Odin being the spicier option. Configured and tuned on 93 octane, Odin drives very well. Our staff member's '16 Mustang GT and '14 Mustang GT both daily drive with Odin kits. We look at it like this. Loki is our Level 1 offering and compares to similar offerings as an entry point into supercharging your vehicle. Odin is level 2, offering support for further goals and modifications. The Loki Level 1 kit can be upgraded to Level 2 as they share the same supercharger/head unit.
Is there some kind of tuner kit version of Loki that can add certain Odin parts? I wouldn't mind the Loki kit with the Odin heat exchanger but without the injectors or tuning. Adding the throttle body, BAP and CAI could still be easily later not to mention i would want to start out with 1000cc injectors for room to grow later.
We don't have one listed as it's not typical to how these kits are sold. Shoot us an email to sales@vmpperformance.com or give us a call at the shop this coming week and we can discuss what you're looking to accomplish.
Nice information. What is the time on pass for Odin since the Loki is in the 10's? also, what mods internally should be made to maintain a long-time working system for both? I am glad VMP gives us the educational vids. Great practice guys!
We have multiple folks deep in the 9s pretty easily. It's hard to say exactly what just the kit will do, as most folks who opt for Odin also opt for a series of other modifications that all add up to good power. Out of the box, Odin is good for another 50-100rwhp depending on the specific car and quality of pump gas. Where Odin really pays off is the ability to go further with a fuel system.
Furthermore, there's even faster cars that have built engines and transmissions with Odin, such as Chuck's '19 GT that makes right at 1100rwhp and should go deep 8s.
@@VMPPerformanceTV Thank you. You guys are doing a great job. You are user friendly and a bit more professional than many others I have see. What was on the mustang ( I have 2012 gt) that Cooper took to RMRW a while back?
The adapter plate is machined specifically to fit and use the stock throttle body. Once a Loki owner is ready to consider upgrades, we recommend doing away with the adapter and upgrading to Odin kit spec TwinJet 69MM throttle body and the Odin cold air kit. If your goals are for higher power than what Loki offers out of the box, we recommend the Odin kit, as it is the kit designed to provide a higher initial horsepower and a simpler path to higher horsepower goals and the price difference for the initial kit purchase is lesser than purchasing the parts individually.
@@wolfzoner8253 no problem at all! Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions you may have to sales@vmpperformance.com, a call to the shop, or even a DM on Facebook or Instagram. We're happy to help!
Can you run a loki supercharger with catalytic converters? They say catalytic converters melt with high hp forced induction and "free flowing" long tube headers aren't being made anymore.
Yes, you can. In our testing on Chuck's '19 GT, all factory emissions equipment was in place for the 10.06 pass at 140mph running a Loki supercharger kit. The Loki kit was designed specifically for folks who wanted stock/close to stock driving characteristics with an added boost in power.
Unfortunately no. The inlet angle is much different on the Odin head unit used in the Loki kit. We include an intake tube designed for this significantly different angle.
Both superchargers use the 2.65l TVS rotor set. The Odin's original purpose was to adapt the Gen3R's technology to the 18+ Mustang and F-150 platforms, as the addition of direct injection to the Gen 3 Coyote engine created clearance issues for the Gen3R's lower intake manifold. Once the Odin was released, people liked the aesthetic so much that we retrofitted it's kit availability back to virtually all Coyote vehicles. As for performance differences, on pump 93 Octane, both supercharger kits will perform very similarly. When turned all the way up, the Odin will have a slight advantage on IATs out of the box, but we offer some upgraded componentry that would help close that gap between the Odin and Gen3R. Both are very capable units!
Hey Shawn! This plate is machined specifically to the stock throttle body, as that's how we've spec'd this kit based on the expected boost/restriction of the stock throttle body and intake tract.
is the "VMP 11-14 MUSTANG 5.0 L SUPERCHARGER KIT - LOKI 2.65L TVS" for 2011-2014 Mustangs? on your website, the description states "Introducing Loki, VMP Performance's all new supercharger for the 2018+ Coyote". Just wanted to clarify if this kit can be used on the older GTs
www.vmpperformance.com/VMP-11-14-Mustang-5.0-L-Supercharger-Kit-Loki-2.65L-TVS-Complete_2 That is the link for the kit. Apologies, that is a typographical error where information was migrated during the page creation on the site. That kit is applicable and will work on older Mustangs, as long as the correct kit SKU is purchased. We'll send a note over to our web team to clarify this! Thanks for the heads up!
@@VMPPerformanceTV Thank you for the quick reply. I am very interested in VMP (Compared to all others). Binge watching your videos as we speak! cheers.
@@barbellsandgames3721 we appreciate the interest and the opportunity to earn your business! Don't hesitate to drop us a line with any questions you may have. We're happy to help!
Loki is going to get close, but not quite to 700. Not as configured. But, it will have the room to grow with upgrading to the Odin components later if you'd like. We see most Loki cars land around 650ish, maybe a touch more. If your goals are well over 700, we'd normally suggest Odin and a return style fuel system as you're pushing the limits of 93 Octane in the 700s.
No. Any of the cold air intakes designed to work with the OEM intake manifold will not work with Odin due to the throttle body angle utilized on the head unit.
The Odin head unit that is featured in both kits is similar in a lot of ways to the Gen3R. We originally designed Odin to bring the Gen3R's technology and performance to the '18+ Mustang and F-150 because of the DI on Gen 3 Coyotes.
We need one for the Godzilla!!!
Would the Loki supercharger be carb legal?
We are working on obtaining CARB numbers for our entire range of superchargers and will update everyone on the progress as we have things to share.
What a joke🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️..... U can't call the same exact unit Loki and Odin... Wtf🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️... Fire your marketing exec... That just silly... Could've been HUGINN and MUNINN... that of been nice
The naming is for the kits, not the blower. Both use the Odin supercharger. The Loki "kit" is the different configuration. It's worked out very well for us.
The comment I was looking for. They just used Loki/Odin which is the same as stage 1/stage 2 in a sense. They were trying to be creative. Should have saved the name Loki for the next gen of this blower. So yes, marketing team fail! Get your shit together!
Good info.
If you install the VMP triple pass heat exchanger without the fans, what kind of IATs would you have sitting in traffic vs with the fans? Some would argue the fans only benefit when sitting in traffic and when the vehicle is moving the fans then become a restriction. What do you guys think?
Hi JT, we find that the fans keep the temperature rise well under control in normal driving and help with recovery after a pull. We haven't seen them act as a restriction at highway speeds in use. The fans are two 11" Spal units that are very efficient and are minimally restrictive to the airflow at cruising speeds.
@@VMPPerformanceTV thank you 👍
What option do you have for a mach 1, manual transmission year 2022?
Hey Juan! The new Mach 1 would utilize the Odin kit for '18+ Mustang. Give us a call to the shop or shoot us an email to sales@vmpperformance.com and we can walk you through the specifics for your vehicle. Look forward to working with you!
If I wanna make about 700whp on 93 do I need anything else other then the Odin kit? 2019 gt
Hey Jason! That's right where an Odin kit lands depending on the quality of the 93 octane fuel. We've seen mid-high 600s to low 700s on repeat with every install at the shop. The Odin kit comes with every component you need for the installation. Only separate purchases would be a tuning device, such as an RTD on 18+ vehicles, and the HP Tuners credits. We even include a tune file as part of your kit purchase.
@@VMPPerformanceTV sounds good. What about e85? What do I need?
To run E85, you'll need a return style fuel system like our VMP Plug and Play system. The fuel volume demand with E85 goes up about 30% and is more than the stock system can handle.
can i use a gt350 throttle body and Jlt CAI with Loki kit?
No. The adapter plate included with the Loki kit is designed specifically for the stock throttle body and the angle of the CAI tube will not align with the inlet of the supercharger.
So is the odin good if your a daily driver on the street
Both kits deliver fantastic drivability with Odin being the spicier option. Configured and tuned on 93 octane, Odin drives very well. Our staff member's '16 Mustang GT and '14 Mustang GT both daily drive with Odin kits.
We look at it like this.
Loki is our Level 1 offering and compares to similar offerings as an entry point into supercharging your vehicle. Odin is level 2, offering support for further goals and modifications. The Loki Level 1 kit can be upgraded to Level 2 as they share the same supercharger/head unit.
heavy breathing... 'insert spongebomb meme - i dont need it'
Thanks Chuck for the orientation today !!
Is there some kind of tuner kit version of Loki that can add certain Odin parts? I wouldn't mind the Loki kit with the Odin heat exchanger but without the injectors or tuning. Adding the throttle body, BAP and CAI could still be easily later not to mention i would want to start out with 1000cc injectors for room to grow later.
We don't have one listed as it's not typical to how these kits are sold. Shoot us an email to sales@vmpperformance.com or give us a call at the shop this coming week and we can discuss what you're looking to accomplish.
Nice information. What is the time on pass for Odin since the Loki is in the 10's? also, what mods internally should be made to maintain a long-time working system for both? I am glad VMP gives us the educational vids. Great practice guys!
We have multiple folks deep in the 9s pretty easily. It's hard to say exactly what just the kit will do, as most folks who opt for Odin also opt for a series of other modifications that all add up to good power. Out of the box, Odin is good for another 50-100rwhp depending on the specific car and quality of pump gas. Where Odin really pays off is the ability to go further with a fuel system.
Furthermore, there's even faster cars that have built engines and transmissions with Odin, such as Chuck's '19 GT that makes right at 1100rwhp and should go deep 8s.
@@VMPPerformanceTV Thank you. You guys are doing a great job. You are user friendly and a bit more professional than many others I have see. What was on the mustang ( I have 2012 gt) that Cooper took to RMRW a while back?
Thanks for your kind words! That was our R&D 2020 GT500 that was running a ported stock supercharger from our good friends at Jokerz Performance.
So it’s kinda like the Gen3R budget vs full kit
Yes, very similar. We try to stage our kits in a way to fit many different power goals and budgets.
Nice we need THOR kit :)
Any way nice work 👍🏻
Booth are badass
Will that Loki/Odin head unit fit under the stock 2015-17 Performance Pack strut tower brace?
Great video! What would be the HP and torque numbers of the Loki kit for a stock 2013 GT? Thanks!
A Loki kit typically lands right around 600rwhp depending on the vehicle, fuel quality, and conditions when on the dyno.
Ok, now we know how much the Loki kit is, now tell us what the Odin kit cost!!!! Then compare it to the whipple 3.0 kit.
1,200 dollars more for a intake and a bigger heat exchanger…
Throttle body, intake, and heat exchanger. It's a little over $2,000 in parts.
Boys where’s Thor?
🏎🏎
Do you recommend upgrading the oil pump gears if I plan to go with the Loki kit? Does the Loki come with the boost a pump?
Loni Kit does not include Boosta pump.
I believe we may have just chatted via Facebook regarding OPGs. Anthony is correct, it does not include a fuel pumo booster with the Loki.
@@VMPPerformanceTV Might want to update your sales pages then. Every vendor that sells Loki kits and your own website shows Loki coming with a BAP.
Could I run the loki on a 14 gt with stock headers and intake?
Absolutely. Here's the link to the kit spec'd for your car. www.vmpperformance.com/VMP-11-14-Mustang-5.0-L-Supercharger-Kit-Loki-2.65L-TVS-Complete_2
Great video! Looks like the Loki kit is exactly what I’m looking for. Hope to get one soon. 👌
Sounds great! Don't hesitate to shoot us an email or DM us on social media if you have any questions. We're happy to help!
Can i use bigger aftermarket throttle body with loki kit?
The adapter plate is machined specifically to fit and use the stock throttle body. Once a Loki owner is ready to consider upgrades, we recommend doing away with the adapter and upgrading to Odin kit spec TwinJet 69MM throttle body and the Odin cold air kit. If your goals are for higher power than what Loki offers out of the box, we recommend the Odin kit, as it is the kit designed to provide a higher initial horsepower and a simpler path to higher horsepower goals and the price difference for the initial kit purchase is lesser than purchasing the parts individually.
@@VMPPerformanceTV thanks for the info! Definitely going to go for the Odin kit 🔥
@@wolfzoner8253 no problem at all! Don't hesitate to reach out with any questions you may have to sales@vmpperformance.com, a call to the shop, or even a DM on Facebook or Instagram. We're happy to help!
About to buy mine thank you.
Appreciation your consideration and the opportunity to earn your business!
Can you run a loki supercharger with catalytic converters? They say catalytic converters melt with high hp forced induction and "free flowing" long tube headers aren't being made anymore.
Yes, you can. In our testing on Chuck's '19 GT, all factory emissions equipment was in place for the 10.06 pass at 140mph running a Loki supercharger kit. The Loki kit was designed specifically for folks who wanted stock/close to stock driving characteristics with an added boost in power.
So with using the stock throttle body am I able to use my pmas intake?
Unfortunately no. The inlet angle is much different on the Odin head unit used in the Loki kit. We include an intake tube designed for this significantly different angle.
I would like to know what's the performance difference between a Gen3R & Odin Supercharger themselves ?
Both superchargers use the 2.65l TVS rotor set. The Odin's original purpose was to adapt the Gen3R's technology to the 18+ Mustang and F-150 platforms, as the addition of direct injection to the Gen 3 Coyote engine created clearance issues for the Gen3R's lower intake manifold. Once the Odin was released, people liked the aesthetic so much that we retrofitted it's kit availability back to virtually all Coyote vehicles. As for performance differences, on pump 93 Octane, both supercharger kits will perform very similarly. When turned all the way up, the Odin will have a slight advantage on IATs out of the box, but we offer some upgraded componentry that would help close that gap between the Odin and Gen3R. Both are very capable units!
What is the ID of adapter plate? Will it accommodate 85 and 90mm throttle bodies as well as stock?
Hey Shawn! This plate is machined specifically to the stock throttle body, as that's how we've spec'd this kit based on the expected boost/restriction of the stock throttle body and intake tract.
is the "VMP 11-14 MUSTANG 5.0 L SUPERCHARGER KIT - LOKI 2.65L TVS" for 2011-2014 Mustangs? on your website, the description states "Introducing Loki, VMP Performance's all new supercharger for the 2018+ Coyote". Just wanted to clarify if this kit can be used on the older GTs
www.vmpperformance.com/VMP-11-14-Mustang-5.0-L-Supercharger-Kit-Loki-2.65L-TVS-Complete_2
That is the link for the kit. Apologies, that is a typographical error where information was migrated during the page creation on the site. That kit is applicable and will work on older Mustangs, as long as the correct kit SKU is purchased. We'll send a note over to our web team to clarify this! Thanks for the heads up!
@@VMPPerformanceTV Thank you for the quick reply. I am very interested in VMP (Compared to all others). Binge watching your videos as we speak! cheers.
@@barbellsandgames3721 we appreciate the interest and the opportunity to earn your business! Don't hesitate to drop us a line with any questions you may have. We're happy to help!
So I'm looking for 700-750 whp on my 19 GT/CS, looks like the Loki will handle my needs with room to grow correct?
Loki is going to get close, but not quite to 700. Not as configured. But, it will have the room to grow with upgrading to the Odin components later if you'd like. We see most Loki cars land around 650ish, maybe a touch more. If your goals are well over 700, we'd normally suggest Odin and a return style fuel system as you're pushing the limits of 93 Octane in the 700s.
@@VMPPerformanceTV i could live with 650ish, car is being purpose built for road courses.
Can I use my roush cold air intake with the Oden?
No. Any of the cold air intakes designed to work with the OEM intake manifold will not work with Odin due to the throttle body angle utilized on the head unit.
If you needed an update, i think the new "Apex predator" air box mayb work, its a closed air box, which i like and may fit the 2018+ s550 models.
@@jrr7031 oh snap thanks man
I’m curious would it be worth it and how difficult would it be to swap from gen3r to a Loki head unit???
The Odin head unit that is featured in both kits is similar in a lot of ways to the Gen3R. We originally designed Odin to bring the Gen3R's technology and performance to the '18+ Mustang and F-150 because of the DI on Gen 3 Coyotes.