These " best " / " worst " people need to get their facts straight before they create these videos. The 8000 does NOT, nor EVER, EVER had a Select O Speed transmission... 6000 may have, 5000 definitely did have that option, and if I remember correctly, the 901. I grew up on a Wisconsin farm in the 60's/ 70's. We had two 8000's, one 5000, and a 901. I will post my picture with 3 of these Ford Tractors. Personally, we never had transmission issues with ANY of them
Anything that can survive usage in India is indestructible. I’ve never watched people abuse machines like they do. It looks like they intentionally try to destroy every machine they have. I can imagine what they would try to do with a 9640r. Lo`
Who wrote script for this video.. International 3588.... Front mounted cab and rear mounted engine??? In what part? If only you drive reverse always....
The biggest problem with the 2+2 is that farmers used them like a high horsepower 4 wheel drive which they weren't. The initial release had too light a front end to handle being dualed and was never intended to be. The later higher horsepower models had much improvement and the design was fun to operate.
The 2+2 design was ahead of it's time. Poorly marketed by IH dealers. Many turned up the injection pump, added duals and weights trying to make the tractor compete with large frame articulated 4 wheel drive tractors. We had a local farmer who only ran green tractors that recognized what the tractor was intended to be used for that purchased one. He used like it was intended and loved it. It was the only red tractor on his farm. Later it was joined by several other red tractors.
Well some of those may have had design issues - I'm not arguing that. But in general I saw several small light tractors being expected to do the work of larger tractors that would have had more horsepower and weight. Asking a 25-50HP tractor to do any type of field work is going to involve some mighty small implements and forget about a moleboard plow, not unless you have some extremely light soils. In the clay soils we have here a 100HP tractor could pull a 2 bottom plow, maybe a 3 bottom, but it would be working hard. But yeah, the Ford and IH tractors were poor designs.
All these so called farmers/tractor operators are idiots .what they are doing is not only dangerous ,but overloading these tractors beyond their capabilities
8000 series fords are very reliable. The 6000 were the first higher HP with the select-o-speed and had issues with the first run. If i remember right recalled everyone of them and fixed the issues.
I worked for a guy that had an 8000 about 20 years ago. What was said about the 8000 in this video perfectly describes that tractor. It was a raging pile with constant transmission issues. That tractor actually spent far more time in the shop than it did on the farm. When it was on the farm we only used it for light duty work because we knew how delicate and fragile it was.
On are farm we had an 8000 Ford and it was bullet proof maybe we had good luck the only select o tractors my father had were Ford pixaall Bean pickers he had 16 and I can't recall one problem with them
The IH 3352 narrative is backward. It is a rear cab mount and a front engine mount. It is one of the weirdest production tractors you will ever see. It makes me think I need to go back to school, see one thing, and hear something else. It is not nice to confuse old people because I am easily confused. LOL! I did not recognize the names of many of these tractors. This has sprung up in the public due to a lack of alpha and beta testing. The mantra is “test, test, and more testing,” and there is a better chance of getting a good product to market. Very informative video.
The IH tractor has a heritage from the Hungarian Dutra tractors with the same concept with the same layout. However the Dutra tractors had conventional steering. Heavy to turn but with great traction. I wouldn't call that concept a failure though. The drawback is the ability to maneuver in tight spaces but the traction and weight distribution under load is the advantage. It's after all the question of getting the traction down into the ground and even ground pressure over all wheels with equal sized wheels is hard to beat.
Not shure for Belarus 510.. This are base of Belarus 82 what were produced ir large numbers and are produced still under bit differnet name (820...) Parts are accesable in large numbers from BLR... This was not worst Belarus produced tractors.. there were some test wehicles even worse... until they were updated... Belarus 510 are simple as axe, there are not lot of electronics what could fail.. and in cold weather states it's came with strating 2T engine not electric started (nowdays are good el starters with gear as well)...
Are you not watching your own video? They are the only breed of person that abuses their equipment as hard as any human on this planet. I wouldn’t leave an engine on my tractor. The only way I would let him touch any equipment was in the junkyard they have no respect for equipment.
@@HeavyMachinery2207 Not sure but I think the 800 series might have been the first models where it was optional, and I know it was offered as an option on the 5000 series (my dad demoed one before going with the std 8x2 manual). It was std equip on the 6000, I think.
Yes, the early red 6000 tractors were all recalled and rebuilt then painted blue. If you find a red 6000 then it was never recalled and upgraded. The 8000 was a very good and reliable tractor. Could have used a turbo though...
Leaky hydraulics on Soviet tractors are not a problem but a feature. Not only Belarus 510 has faulty hydraulics. Other Belarus tractors have faulty hydraulics. Hell! All Soviet tractors have faulty hydraulics, no matter if they were produced by HTZ, MTZ, VTZ, JuMZ or any other factory producing tractors in USSR. Machining on hydraulic cylinders and pistons leaves a lot to be desired, but what fails the most often is seals. You can change them once a month and they still gonna leak. While electrical system is not much of an issue, as there isn't much electric stuff on this tractor in the first place and replacing starter motor and a battery with modern ones solves the problem, the real issue is terrible ergonomics, especially really crude transmission with weird gear pattern. It's also a problem shared with other Soviet tractor designs, unknown in other Eastern Block tractors made in Czechoslovakia, Poland or Yugoslavia. Seems like Soviets had real problems with precision machining. I don't agree on parts availability, at least in countries where those tractors were sold the most. They still are available to this day and dirt cheap, as MTZ still produces those tractors in barely changed form and a lot of small companies from China, India or Indonesia still makes new spare parts.
overloaded more of a problem the little tractor pulling loads like that with no draw car weight on a 4 wheel trailer , bigger tractor would not pull that
The Belarus 510 isnt even available in east europe. I belive its only exclusive to middle east and pakistan area. They are built there so it would be excpected that they have shotty build quality. The tractor that it is based on (MTZ 50/52) is a great tractor. The 80 hp model which came after the 50/52 with the more square cab is even better. Many farmers in east europe still use them as they are the most popular choice of tractor and the most reliable and still somewhat cheap to afford. The newer models with the big cabins are also fairly decent.
Seems all had same problems n ford 8000 good tractor ford 6000 had selecto speed junk Johndeer refined it in power shift most worked well U had ur engine n cab info backwards on the ih 2plus 3
dont k now who is behind theses ai voiced they do cars light and heavy trucks and now farm tracters first couple were using machines that wher half the size needed and i suspect the way there used thet cause death and disabilities, but the co constantly uses the same words no matter what, present pictures of a different mavhine or rescxribe like the IH a cab foward rear engine showing a long nose rear cab front engine . wast of time watching theses of you like equipment
Ford selecto-o-speed was the same as a torque amplifier or multi-power an it suffered because people didn't/still dont know how to use it. Those are good tractors.
We were confused about something about the Ford 8000. Instead, it was the Ford 6000. Thank you for your contributions and watching the video 😍😍
The bigger problem is the goons that are trying to operate them
it's terrible🤣
These " best " / " worst " people need to get their facts straight before they create these videos. The 8000 does NOT, nor EVER, EVER had a Select O Speed transmission... 6000 may have, 5000 definitely did have that option, and if I remember correctly, the 901. I grew up on a Wisconsin farm in the 60's/ 70's. We had two 8000's, one 5000, and a 901. I will post my picture with 3 of these Ford Tractors. Personally, we never had transmission issues with ANY of them
we were confused with the ford 6000, thank you for the great suggestions.
You have to buy the tractor you need for the job not That is not what these dumb asses did
Anything that can survive usage in India is indestructible. I’ve never watched people abuse machines like they do. It looks like they intentionally try to destroy every machine they have. I can imagine what they would try to do with a 9640r. Lo`
The tractors are way overloaded.
because it's so old and has so many problems
@@HeavyMachinery2207 The tractor was designed for small equipment use not to pull 2 ton equipment
All these videos these trackers are being inappropriately used
No way he really said with the 3588: front mounted cab and rear mounted engine 💀💀💀💀💀
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3:00 significant performance limitations... Tries to pull half the world on a trailer 😂
hahahahah
Who wrote script for this video.. International 3588.... Front mounted cab and rear mounted engine??? In what part? If only you drive reverse always....
The FORD 8000 , did not have a select-o-speed . It was not even an option. The Ford 6000 , did have a select-o -speed transmission.
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The biggest problem with the 2+2 is that farmers used them like a high horsepower 4 wheel drive which they weren't. The initial release had too light a front end to handle being dualed and was never intended to be. The later higher horsepower models had much improvement and the design was fun to operate.
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I think the IH is a good tractor, like you said NOT a "750 hp tractor".
The 2+2 design was ahead of it's time. Poorly marketed by IH dealers. Many turned up the injection pump, added duals and weights trying to make the tractor compete with large frame articulated 4 wheel drive tractors.
We had a local farmer who only ran green tractors that recognized what the tractor was intended to be used for that purchased one. He used like it was intended and loved it. It was the only red tractor on his farm. Later it was joined by several other red tractors.
@@mikewatson4644 Thank you for your information
Well some of those may have had design issues - I'm not arguing that. But in general I saw several small light tractors being expected to do the work of larger tractors that would have had more horsepower and weight. Asking a 25-50HP tractor to do any type of field work is going to involve some mighty small implements and forget about a moleboard plow, not unless you have some extremely light soils. In the clay soils we have here a 100HP tractor could pull a 2 bottom plow, maybe a 3 bottom, but it would be working hard. But yeah, the Ford and IH tractors were poor designs.
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You are doing a great job, I hope you continue to develop more
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The guy riding on the rotavator frightens me more than all the crappy tractors. His long scarf and the unprotected PTO shaft do not combine well.
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All these so called farmers/tractor operators are idiots .what they are doing is not only dangerous ,but overloading these tractors beyond their capabilities
They also just want to take full advantage of the power that tractors bring.
8000 series fords are very reliable. The 6000 were the first higher HP with the select-o-speed and had issues with the first run. If i remember right recalled everyone of them and fixed the issues.
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I worked for a guy that had an 8000 about 20 years ago. What was said about the 8000 in this video perfectly describes that tractor. It was a raging pile with constant transmission issues. That tractor actually spent far more time in the shop than it did on the farm. When it was on the farm we only used it for light duty work because we knew how delicate and fragile it was.
@@lylehart3744 Thank you for your valuable information
A farmer near me has 2 8000 FORDS he decorates every Christmas. Beautiful units, even in their work clothes
On are farm we had an 8000 Ford and it was bullet proof maybe we had good luck the only select o tractors my father had were Ford pixaall Bean pickers he had 16 and I can't recall one problem with them
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The IH 3352 narrative is backward. It is a rear cab mount and a front engine mount. It is one of the weirdest production tractors you will ever see. It makes me think I need to go back to school, see one thing, and hear something else. It is not nice to confuse old people because I am easily confused. LOL! I did not recognize the names of many of these tractors. This has sprung up in the public due to a lack of alpha and beta testing. The mantra is “test, test, and more testing,” and there is a better chance of getting a good product to market. Very informative video.
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because according to reviews of people who have used it
@leonardomigot-yn1tiit was a poor model of their line of tractors
The IH tractor has a heritage from the Hungarian Dutra tractors with the same concept with the same layout. However the Dutra tractors had conventional steering. Heavy to turn but with great traction. I wouldn't call that concept a failure though. The drawback is the ability to maneuver in tight spaces but the traction and weight distribution under load is the advantage. It's after all the question of getting the traction down into the ground and even ground pressure over all wheels with equal sized wheels is hard to beat.
Ford 8000 never were selectospeed had a good reputation video is poor and factually incorrect
Not shure for Belarus 510.. This are base of Belarus 82 what were produced ir large numbers and are produced still under bit differnet name (820...) Parts are accesable in large numbers from BLR... This was not worst Belarus produced tractors.. there were some test wehicles even worse... until they were updated... Belarus 510 are simple as axe, there are not lot of electronics what could fail.. and in cold weather states it's came with strating 2T engine not electric started (nowdays are good el starters with gear as well)...
Look at the size of the load there trying to pull ffs a 450 horse power tractor would struggle
2+2 = front mounted engine and rear mounted cab! Bass ackwards.
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Are you not watching your own video? They are the only breed of person that abuses their equipment as hard as any human on this planet. I wouldn’t leave an engine on my tractor. The only way I would let him touch any equipment was in the junkyard they have no respect for equipment.
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I believe you're mistaken about the Ford 8000 having a select-o-speed. It was the 6000 that came with that disaster.
Sorry for some incorrect information, thank you😍
@@HeavyMachinery2207 Not sure but I think the 800 series might have been the first models where it was optional, and I know it was offered as an option on the 5000 series (my dad demoed one before going with the std 8x2 manual). It was std equip on the 6000, I think.
Yes, the early red 6000 tractors were all recalled and rebuilt then painted blue. If you find a red 6000 then it was never recalled and upgraded. The 8000 was a very good and reliable tractor. Could have used a turbo though...
It was fixed. So what was the disaster ???
@@hughcrandall254 To me it seems like the 8000 should have had 4WD too, but maybe that option did exist.
Leaky hydraulics on Soviet tractors are not a problem but a feature. Not only Belarus 510 has faulty hydraulics. Other Belarus tractors have faulty hydraulics. Hell! All Soviet tractors have faulty hydraulics, no matter if they were produced by HTZ, MTZ, VTZ, JuMZ or any other factory producing tractors in USSR. Machining on hydraulic cylinders and pistons leaves a lot to be desired, but what fails the most often is seals. You can change them once a month and they still gonna leak.
While electrical system is not much of an issue, as there isn't much electric stuff on this tractor in the first place and replacing starter motor and a battery with modern ones solves the problem, the real issue is terrible ergonomics, especially really crude transmission with weird gear pattern. It's also a problem shared with other Soviet tractor designs, unknown in other Eastern Block tractors made in Czechoslovakia, Poland or Yugoslavia. Seems like Soviets had real problems with precision machining.
I don't agree on parts availability, at least in countries where those tractors were sold the most. They still are available to this day and dirt cheap, as MTZ still produces those tractors in barely changed form and a lot of small companies from China, India or Indonesia still makes new spare parts.
Thank you for the information you gave us
Anyone else noticed that the idiots operating the tractors in the first two series were complete nimrod? Talk about overloading.......
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Typical people in India and areas around. Buy a tractor, truck etc and expect it to pull megga amount in weight well over its design limits.
I think so, too
I see it as buying the tractor you can afford but then make it pull more loads than it's designed for.
The 8000 Ford never had a select o speed. Your talking about the Ford 6000!!
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most of these tractors are mighty but the people keep overloading the trailers and causing it to lift at the front🙄
I think so, too
These video’s are total bullshit! Especialy the story about the IH 3588 wich was a very succeful design for IH !
most of the problems with the first one is grossly overloaded and idiot operators
Mahindra not the problem where it comes from technology is defective coupled with low IQ
John Deere, JCB fast track all good you’re saying that John and JCB fast tracks are bad
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overloaded more of a problem the little tractor pulling loads like that with no draw car weight on a 4 wheel trailer , bigger tractor would not pull that
They mean the Ford 6000.8000 never available with selecto speed.people are still tractor pulling them today
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Belarus 510 best of all tractors available in pakistan.and u r degrading it
We rely on the reviews of many people around the world to provide information in the video
So international had a truck style design for the 2+2? Get your info right.
The Belarus 510 isnt even available in east europe. I belive its only exclusive to middle east and pakistan area. They are built there so it would be excpected that they have shotty build quality. The tractor that it is based on (MTZ 50/52) is a great tractor. The 80 hp model which came after the 50/52 with the more square cab is even better. Many farmers in east europe still use them as they are the most popular choice of tractor and the most reliable and still somewhat cheap to afford. The newer models with the big cabins are also fairly decent.
I don't know why I was watching this crap.
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Many of these tractors were sold over seas & we all see how the operate over there
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8000, revolutionary tractor
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Yes they were. I grew up using 2 of this model
The J-D 2040 was the worst tractor I ever owned.
can you tell me why it is bad
you clearly know notting about FORD and IH tractors
We researched information on the internet before producing this video
Seems all had same problems n ford 8000 good tractor ford 6000 had selecto speed junk
Johndeer refined it in power shift most worked well
U had ur engine n cab info backwards on the ih 2plus 3
On ford you have the wrong model number as the 8000 was a great tractor the 6000 was a failure
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That first tractor is a b414 Mccorrmic farmall they tryed to update that tractor lol was the worst tractor that put out then and now
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I raver 2+2 over the brand new tractor new tractor is a junk with ther technology
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dont k now who is behind theses ai voiced they do cars light and heavy trucks and now farm tracters
first couple were using machines that wher half the size needed and i suspect the way there used thet cause death and disabilities, but the co constantly uses the same words no matter what, present pictures of a different mavhine or rescxribe like the IH a cab foward rear engine showing a long nose rear cab front engine . wast of time watching theses of you like equipment
Ja hy is net so kak soos die Mahindra bakkie gemors 😂😂😂
I heard the 2+2 had a better turning radius than most front wheel assist tractors of that time.
Ford selecto-o-speed was the same as a torque amplifier or multi-power an it suffered because people didn't/still dont know how to use it. Those are good tractors.