Mine arrived yesterday and I've had very little sleep. XY is mind bogglingly deep (in the best way). So inspiring. Thanks for posting these XY videos Ricky, they have been helpful in getting into it all.
I love that RUclips exists so that I can enjoy all of what the OP-XY can do through the viewpoint of an amazing host like Ricky (without spending a dime I might add). I can’t afford one, but I also couldn’t afford any of the lamborginis that Top Gear reviewed, and that never took away from my enjoyment of watching Jeremy doing donuts in them. Lots of love brother❤️ please keep sharing more!!🙌🏻
I see this different. Paying for it always gives a better perspective. This is not a Lamourghini, we can al buy it, but we might not go on that holliday, or we do not pay that overdue bill or just take a loan. There is just a normal response from people who probably have other premium gear and with there knowhow try to reason if this compute?
It’s just money. Lotsa money. Especially music-piggy-bank money that worth much more. We need to be wise choosing our own poison. But. As my granny used to say, we are too poor to buy cheap stuff. This is not cheap in any way. Cheers! ❤
I agree. I go to the Spa-Francorchamps circuit in Belgium (our neighbours ;-)) to watch rich guys race their 80s-90s Le Mans cars. Can't ever afford one, but I'm grateful that at least someone races them and I get the opportunity actually see, hear, and smell them on a circuit (and get up close, they have open pitboxes). Sure, a million dollar car is in a different league from a 2k synth, but my point is...I don't hate on stuff I can't afford. It's just what it is. There are alternatives. And if they really overpriced it, the market will correct them by failing sales. I mean, myself I'd love a Prophet-6 to play around with, people buy those too...but I can't. Or won't. Just unable to justify that for myself as a hobbyist.
i’m surprised no one (that i know of!) has added that cool transpose function to their devices - it’s been in OP-Z for years and is awesome (though it didn’t always work so great in OP-Z). don’t know they haven’t added it to elektron devices
@@louispconstant6624 i think you misunderstood the comment - the tranpose “brain” function on OP XY (“master on OPZ) - it’s existed on OPZ for several years - yet other manufacturers have not added it to their machines. like you can’t do that on an elektron device. i wonder why, because it’s super useful.
@@louispconstant6624 what does that have to do with anything? i was talking about any brands, i just gave elektron as an example. are there other manufacturers making grooveboxes with a transpose function like that? i can do it with some eurorack modules, but otherwise the only one i can think of is OPZ that does it (and now XY)
around 6:00 you were wondering about the samples the punch in fx select. on the OPZ those are the last sample you played on the keyboard in that channel. Is it the same way on the OP-XY?
The OPz is a hell of a lot of fun. These ‘components’ or sequencing macros as I call them are in trackers , things like the chord strumming ate in Live and other plugins. I really think for groove boxes and sequences these macro edits are going to become more and more popular. I can see the next Elektron or Polyend boxes having a big list to choose from and maybe one or two bars will be all you need. Economy sequencing lol The price is silly but things are worth what people will pay , and TE isn’t a charity. I can see Roland extending this idea in an affordable way. But if you want the design , thought and graphics , you are going to have to pay a premium to TE.
Reading through the manual, similar to the EP133 you can press + or - to cue up the scene which should keep your brain timings correct. Shift and the scene number jumps in the middle which maybe by design can throw off timing. Great videos btw looking forward to picking one up eventually
That moment when you start seeing OP-1s jogging outside in the dark... and you go to the portable synth store and a mini freak and a coffee is suddenly $1000....
Music tools for professionals have always been expensive. If you don't need it then don't buy it. There's nothing else on the market that has this form factor and features.
@@6581punk A brand new MacBook Air and a copy of Ableton Live Suite is literally a cheaper, better long term investment than this. There is nothing 'professional' about Teenage Engineering's upscale consumer products.
Whatever it can do, a MacBook for half the price can do everything what it does too and is a lot more flexible in its functionality and for future developments. It’s not that I hate the product or deny that it might be good in what it does, it is the hilarious price that makes it an uninteresting product for me.
Hey Ricky, thanks for the video! You should be able to reset the "playhead" of a track by placing a Jump step component = 0, if it's like the OP-Z. The OP-Z's manual has a table that describes the different settings (section 6.4) including the Ramp thing you were wondering about.
This is why I use the OP-Z for all my synths. I’m not a keyboard player, and I don’t know music theory, but I have melodies in my head, and the OP-Z is the only device that helps me bring them to life. That’s why I bought the OP-XY the moment it went live on the TE store.
I don’t know how long you’ve had this thing, Ricky, but the fact that you can wrap your brain around it to talk about it the way you do is a superpower. I don’t understand it. You’re a natural.
Wtf are you talking about? He had no idea what he was even saying. Why are you pretending that was an informative video? Dudes more worried about telling people he gets it by making a new video cause he got the manual instead of just actually getting off YT to learn the unit properly for himself.
Hi from Edinburgh. I’ve ordered this and looking for the PDF users guide I came across a new Firmware for the OP XY. Any chance of doing a quick video on how to install this update?
There should be instructions on teenage engineering website maybe next to the download update? It should be pretty simple if you connect the device to your computer with the USB-C cable.
A great vibe on that track, Ricky. Thank you for sharing 👍 With regards to this instrument, after watching/ listening to many videos, the pros are that it sounds great, the workflow is smooth, and it looks (and most likely feels) like a premium product. The cons are the price & the workflow. No matter which way you look at it, 80 to 90% of musicians wont buy it due to that. But it could be argued that many upper tier studio instruments (I'm thinking of some beautiful, heavyweight- literally- analog polysynths) are in a similar category. The workflow itself palls in leiu of the usual DAW & controller scenarios & even the Akai keys / hardware UX/ UI. But maybe that's the idea, as to ease you into a different workflow, which does look like it could be fun if you feel the vibe. T.E. always do things differently , as do.elektron, whose boxes i sadly cannot find a way to work for me. But limitations can be a wonderful thing. I've written tracks just using monosynths with no way to store patches(using one of them as a drum/percussion unit), and it pushes you into a discipline that'll help you creatively, if you're feeling the flow. Ultimately, it's horses for courses and whilst i have no idea whether I'd use or buy one of these, i respect the creativity and risk taken to bring this to market.
guys the OP-Z is great and it's only like $430 on TE's website. it's not as "premium" or intuitive but it has the same inspirational workflow and more than enough functionality to make great sounding sequences.
it’s pretty dope - and it does the cool transpose trick and has the step components. wonder why elektron hasn’t integrated the transposing into their devices. XY is cooler than OP-Z but $2000k cooler? in the wallet of the beholder!
@@biiiiiiiliiiiiiieeiiiilisssshh like what? Grååskala, a swedish electronic music guy who was helping to develop it was showing some of his tracks made with XY saying he couldn’t have done them with the OP-Z, and that he did an OP-Z album and tried doing that stuff and couldn’t. i won’t be able to afford the XY for a few years, especially since i bought the Op1f so i’ll be using my OP-Z for some time, but that’s what i heard.
I needed to see this, the fun parts. Everyone is concerned with the price and rightly so. But the funnest, not best, device I ever bought years ago was the OP-1. I used it all the time no matter what other gear I had. I now have a polybrute, mpc live, deluge, sp404 and a bunch of modular gear and I still use my OP-1 field the most. Its just fun and thats something that gets lost in the price which is really "value to you" when you get beyond the number. That price is crazy but the value:fun ratio is pretty high from what im seeing. Thanks Ricky.
I'm the exact same! I have a P6, Ob6, MPC Live II, and just sold most of my modular gear because I find myself using the OP-1 field the most. I've sampled every oscillator I own into it now I have 'em in my backpack. I can't afford the the xy, but if it brought the same amount of joy as the op1-f, I'd start selling shit and save up for a used one. Ricky's tracks here are just too inspiring.
Yea the fun factor is hard to convey and gauge through video too. Especially since a lot of it is relative, I like running it's fun but I knew a few folks who'd rather not! hahaha. Thanks for tuning in Hasan!
@@elementlab41 Most definitely. OP-1 limited me in the right ways to just produce. i have an mpc live 2, bought every plugin when they release it, i just dont use it, even less with the 3.0 update. Right now its op-1 field and the deluge and the XY is probably going to slide right in.
Two things worthwhile knowing about smart transpose: the novation circuit all have it, even the OG, and as cool as it is, a lot of the signature house harmony came from chromatic (not smart) transposition that was available on the original MPCs, essentially creating key changes even in songs with just two or three chords, so both smart and "dumb" transpose are cool.
@@re8et355 it can be done easily with free plugins and you can have the same feel by using your actual computer keyboard and keyboard shortcuts. You have space bar adapted to land ahead after pause on the drop, and use garbage bands inbuilt keyboard. Its incredible how close it gets! Just search free plugins for the op1 i think the clip was called, and look for an asian guy called Mike.
Adding a few: I hate everyone who dares like this I envy/hate everyone who dares buy one I don't like my life and only find meaning in being angry in the comments Deep breaths, unnecessarily angry people--you can choose a different path that will bring you more joy and meaning.
I decided to buy one because nothing has inspired me lately, to the point that I’ve sold basically all of my gear. If this little device is able to spark inspiration in me, and bring music making back into my life, then $2,300 is a small price to pay.
How much of the gear you bought and sold was borne of this exact thought pattern? This is a thought pattern that is destined to fail. You have been gaslit, yet again.
It looks really fun and I wish I was able to afford it. It's disheartening that I probably never will. I wish they made more affordable mass market stuff😅
@@ripskip160 Roland p6, it's not as fun looking as te stuff, but for 200$ seems very powerful small sampler/grovebox for amatures who like to play with sounds. Will be buying for my daughter for Christmas (so I can also play with it with her 😄).
Thank you. One question, if I may: is it possible to play notes into the sequencer in real time with a connected controller keyboard? Or do you have to use the buttons on the device to record the notes? Best.
@@leftmono1016 Thank you, yes. I'm currently reading the awesome manual. Under 22.7 it says: "coming soon: control OP-XY with a midi keyboard." So this will be implemented with an update. It has to be able to do that, because the internal keyboard is out of the question for me to input. Regards.
I loved this features on OPZ and I was bummed about the synths quality and mono samples. Now this is what we wanted from OPZ. I got one too. Lookin forward for it. Also Ricky, I discovered how to alter separate drums with filters and shit. Basically you alter a drum, hit sample and resample it onto itself. Then reset the filters and shit. Basically you hard print the fx on the oneshot and create a copy of the kit.
can you use maestro itself (without Brain) to enter different chords at various steps in the sequence, in other words arrange a custom chord progression within a key (with maybe a few notes out of key) then have Brain transpose that chord progression, and all the relative notes like the lead track, to a different key in subsequent sections?
It's beautiful, I can't wait for someone to leave one at my workplace and the not return to collect it from the lost & found for over 3 months so I can have one.
I think people misunderstand the market for something like the OP-XY. It's a very cool device for crazy money. It's very much a luxury purchase. It's for a specific group of people that many of us are not a member of. That's OK. This is how the market works - you put out a product, you market it, and you price it, and people buy it or they don't. That said, the profit margins on this thing must be silly high.
so why are youtubers trying to promote it to us regular producers in channels we thought are for regular Producers??? so we can long for what we choose not to afford???
@@ucheattoh he also reviewed the deckards dream… what’s your point? Go bang 2 sticks together and record that if you want everything to be cheap. The world isn’t going to cater to you and your budget everywhere you go.
The price is insane for what you get. (Remembering the sentence that you don’t buy a machine, but a workflow) The global adsr on the drum parts is an absolute deal breaker. The solo lfo is a joke. Incomprehensible from a customers point of view. The phrase that limitations would increase creativity is in my eyes not applicable as these limitations just make a shit mix. But it’s also teenage engineering not teenage musicians. (Edit: Ricky does a great job in explaining cons and pros here! This is not meant as critique on him! And I hope the interaction boost from people arguing here helps him haha)
It's always the price with TE. It boggles my mind how, somehow, this thing is one of the few devices with in scale transposition/chord generation/key transition. 99% of music bars (ABAC AABA ,etc) is just transposing an idea/chord around a key. Even the DN I and II, for some reason, don't have page/pattern transposition and on top of that locking the arp to a scale, or a chord player that also is within a key. Seeing all the scale/transposition/chord/shifting abilities with this thing is so annoying because all these very important composition tools, are not processor/RAM intensive, and are lacking in everything, yet here they are in this $3000 toy. :| TE knows how to make devices that are super simple to make full songs on. All the other boxes are still lacking in that regard. Transitions, drops, chord/keychanges, all that are so easy with TE devices, yet, in contrast, go to elektronauts and you'll see 100 posts asking "Any tips on how to compose a transition from one pattern to the next?! I'm stuck in 64 step land HELP!"
What do you expect from a company that sells a junk market table for 1.5 grand? Expandable with the 80bucks fucking t-a-p-e holder. Yes, like „duct tape“
Your scale/chord/key point boggles my mind too. "Arranger" products have had this for literal decades, and you can even go handheld with them if you look into the Yamaha QY series. You just have to be willing to use 30-year-old gear. ;)
@@jg_ultra the Elektrons also have these features, but most users don't read the manuals :) (Not a dig against OP - their point is more or less spot on otherwise)
@1UpBebop What on earth are you trying to say, or ask?? Your comment isn't coherent.. "One of the few devices with in scale transposition/chord generation/key transition. 99% of music bars (ABAC AABA ,etc) is just transposing an idea/chord around a key." It's not one of the one of the only devices that do this. That's on almost every daw in one way or another. Cheap electronic keyboards do similar to that. It's called PRACTICE MODE. 99% of music involves doing the things you mentioned, not having a piece of technology that does that for you. What do you do if a computer tells you what notes to play, in what key, where? Tell it how long and when to start/stop is the answer. We went from having too many number one hits and bands for top 10 lists or radio segments in the 60's and 70's, to this circus? LOL Man this generation is weak.
Should have been a collab with Balenciaga at the price point. And no, that's not a dis, maybe just a pitch. Drop the price on the current model and do a few high fashion streetwear collabs with the current price😢
Problem with TE -> the price.....I always feel that there are other machines (or combination of machines) out there that have a fairer price and eventually even more capable of producing the wanted sounds...
Yeah their gear doesn't seem bad, but just nowhere near worth the price. The EP-133 seems somewhat reasonable, but still a bit on the expensive side for what it can do. If the OP-XY was half the price I'd consider getting one .. second hand ..
This one does: ruclips.net/video/vvo-MYh4vdA/видео.htmlsi=Ml4I203IRByeSeN-&t=537 It's kinda the same as the OP-1 Field. Page 78 of the manual goes in depth about it.
2.300 € in Germany. What an insane Price Tag. Sorry TE, but even though this thing looks dope as it seems to be more "mature" compared to the Field - it's waaay too much money for most people interested in it. Which was already the case for the Field and the reason why i returned it back then. But thx for the Vid anyway @Ricky Tinez. It might fill a niche that the Field already did but i highly assume that it will never reach the heights of the original OP-1 anymore. And its a shame that this insanely high price tag is most likely the reason for that.
ok question, and what about "then what?" moment. How easy is it to transfer to DAW? Would I have to mute everything? Is it possible to do it track by track?
Thank you for sharing this follow-up video Ricky!! I just splurged and ordered it. 😬 Cant wait to dive in... 🎉... Also LOL at "intelligently AI" hahaha...
Hi Ricky! re: @6:05 could you just stack another step component on that step to reduce its volume / velocity there? I’ve accepted I won’t truly understand how this device works til Cuckoo feels better and makes a mega tutorial 😂
Hello, my question is the following: If you input audio "in real time" does the master track of the effects work for said audio in real time without the need to sample said audio? thank you
Also for people complaining about the price: there are people paying $3k on a guitar. And at the end of the day it sounds like a guitar. The OP is way more versatile. Depends on what you want.
I have some sweet guitars that cost only $500. Where can I find the $500 op-xy? I guess the op-z is sort of like that? To extend the op-z/guitar comparison, it would have a warped neck and be missing all the knobs and a few frets. 😂😂😂
@@StatetrooperBillyBillcan you put an MPC x SE in a backpack tho? I know that you can do the same with other gear, but I think the main appealing of this is the portability
I don’t critizise the price because this product is extremely well designed, the screen UI, the ergonomics, perhaps has a few workflow issues but, seems they spend a lot of time in details related to design, is just a tool, a great tool, but no matter how good of a tool if the operator has no talent, it will always produce nothing. Same goes for more basic tool, in the hands of a talented and creative producer it is more than enough, cheers.
I think that's why i never really got into TE's punch-in fx. Imo they're just a bit too loud/in your face most of the time. But if we could adjust the volume for them...
Just like the OP-Z, this seems to nail the “i know what it’s going to do but I’m not sure exactly how it will sound” experience. It’s a very exciting way to make music, and the XY looks like it will avoid the Z’s severe durability issues. Shame the price makes this a non-starter for me because it really seems to fix everything i disliked about the OP-Z while keeping all the good bits!
So if you made a track you really like, like this one, would/could you bring this into a DAW somehow? Isolate tracks and record it? Do a live performance like the end of this video, then edit it?
No 2. A lot of the comments on YT regarding the price point on the OP-XY. Do people actually take into account that a big WHACK of the overall price is Tax?
Mine arrived yesterday and I've had very little sleep. XY is mind bogglingly deep (in the best way). So inspiring. Thanks for posting these XY videos Ricky, they have been helpful in getting into it all.
I will very likely never buy it but what a desirable piece of tech haha. It’s the Porsche of Dawless musicboxes.
I did 180 on this one and ordered mine yesterday. Not because of this video (just a bit) but because I think it's fun.
I love that RUclips exists so that I can enjoy all of what the OP-XY can do through the viewpoint of an amazing host like Ricky (without spending a dime I might add). I can’t afford one, but I also couldn’t afford any of the lamborginis that Top Gear reviewed, and that never took away from my enjoyment of watching Jeremy doing donuts in them. Lots of love brother❤️ please keep sharing more!!🙌🏻
I see this different. Paying for it always gives a better perspective. This is not a Lamourghini, we can al buy it, but we might not go on that holliday, or we do not pay that overdue bill or just take a loan. There is just a normal response from people who probably have other premium gear and with there knowhow try to reason if this compute?
It’s just money. Lotsa money. Especially music-piggy-bank money that worth much more. We need to be wise choosing our own poison. But. As my granny used to say, we are too poor to buy cheap stuff.
This is not cheap in any way. Cheers! ❤
I agree. I go to the Spa-Francorchamps circuit in Belgium (our neighbours ;-)) to watch rich guys race their 80s-90s Le Mans cars. Can't ever afford one, but I'm grateful that at least someone races them and I get the opportunity actually see, hear, and smell them on a circuit (and get up close, they have open pitboxes). Sure, a million dollar car is in a different league from a 2k synth, but my point is...I don't hate on stuff I can't afford. It's just what it is. There are alternatives. And if they really overpriced it, the market will correct them by failing sales. I mean, myself I'd love a Prophet-6 to play around with, people buy those too...but I can't. Or won't. Just unable to justify that for myself as a hobbyist.
@ you can afford it, just use the affiliate links. (On what device are you now watching?)
I will use my Credit Card!!
No idea what you are talking about, but man that closed hat every two bars is dope!
I was thinking the same! Liquid smooth track!
hope it blows more than just your mind for that price
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Unfortunately she lost the election
@@ripskip160 Why are peoples egos so affected by TE......Its not a threat - no need to keep shooting it down. Stay in your budget and have fun
i’m surprised no one (that i know of!) has added that cool transpose function to their devices - it’s been in OP-Z for years and is awesome (though it didn’t always work so great in OP-Z). don’t know they haven’t added it to elektron devices
What? LOL
Do you mean no one as in people that bought an OP, or are you referring to no other units or software? Because...
@@louispconstant6624 i think you misunderstood the comment - the tranpose “brain” function on OP XY (“master on OPZ) - it’s existed on OPZ for several years - yet other manufacturers have not added it to their machines. like you can’t do that on an elektron device. i wonder why, because it’s super useful.
@@WHATISPOLITICS69 Do you think elektron and op are the only things, or even main ones people make music on?
@@louispconstant6624 what does that have to do with anything? i was talking about any brands, i just gave elektron as an example. are there other manufacturers making grooveboxes with a transpose function like that? i can do it with some eurorack modules, but otherwise the only one i can think of is OPZ that does it (and now XY)
M8 Dirtywave has an awesome transpose functionality
around 6:00 you were wondering about the samples the punch in fx select. on the OPZ those are the last sample you played on the keyboard in that channel. Is it the same way on the OP-XY?
The OPz is a hell of a lot of fun. These ‘components’ or sequencing macros as I call them are in trackers , things like the chord strumming ate in Live and other plugins.
I really think for groove boxes and sequences these macro edits are going to become more and more popular. I can see the next Elektron or Polyend boxes having a big list to choose from and maybe one or two bars will be all you need. Economy sequencing lol
The price is silly but things are worth what people will pay , and TE isn’t a charity. I can see Roland extending this idea in an affordable way. But if you want the design , thought and graphics , you are going to have to pay a premium to TE.
Reading through the manual, similar to the EP133 you can press + or - to cue up the scene which should keep your brain timings correct. Shift and the scene number jumps in the middle which maybe by design can throw off timing. Great videos btw looking forward to picking one up eventually
They have so good product and design!
Gentrification as a synth
Best comment I've read in ages :)
That moment when you start seeing OP-1s jogging outside in the dark... and you go to the portable synth store and a mini freak and a coffee is suddenly $1000....
Music tools for professionals have always been expensive. If you don't need it then don't buy it. There's nothing else on the market that has this form factor and features.
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@@6581punk A brand new MacBook Air and a copy of Ableton Live Suite is literally a cheaper, better long term investment than this. There is nothing 'professional' about Teenage Engineering's upscale consumer products.
Really enjoying to see you at work and also to learn from your ‘generic’ tips and tricks… but that’s it (for this video).
The OP-XY Just Blew My Mind!..... because its so fucking expensive!!
😆😆😆
and they gave it to me as a gift 😁
And I can't work out the volume of a sample, or getting the track to line up and stay in time LOL 😆
Whatever it can do, a MacBook for half the price can do everything what it does too and is a lot more flexible in its functionality and for future developments. It’s not that I hate the product or deny that it might be good in what it does, it is the hilarious price that makes it an uninteresting product for me.
Wallet and trousers too?
Hey Ricky, thanks for the video! You should be able to reset the "playhead" of a track by placing a Jump step component = 0, if it's like the OP-Z. The OP-Z's manual has a table that describes the different settings (section 6.4) including the Ramp thing you were wondering about.
This is why I use the OP-Z for all my synths. I’m not a keyboard player, and I don’t know music theory, but I have melodies in my head, and the OP-Z is the only device that helps me bring them to life. That’s why I bought the OP-XY the moment it went live on the TE store.
Those strummed cords playing pads are a great idea. I guess I can recreate that on the keystep 37. will try later 🙂
I don’t know how long you’ve had this thing, Ricky, but the fact that you can wrap your brain around it to talk about it the way you do is a superpower. I don’t understand it. You’re a natural.
the manual is available to read.
Haha my exact thoughts.
Wtf are you talking about? He had no idea what he was even saying. Why are you pretending that was an informative video?
Dudes more worried about telling people he gets it by making a new video cause he got the manual instead of just actually getting off YT to learn the unit properly for himself.
@@louispconstant6624 It's the TE circle jerk
Hi from Edinburgh. I’ve ordered this and looking for the PDF users guide I came across a new Firmware for the OP XY. Any chance of doing a quick video on how to install this update?
There should be instructions on teenage engineering website maybe next to the download update? It should be pretty simple if you connect the device to your computer with the USB-C cable.
@robertjamesonmusic Well sorted. It’s just the same routine as the OP-One Field. Thanks anyway.
2 Ricky Videos in two days, life is good
Is Ricky Viedos his cousin?
@@kierenmoore3236 excuse my spelling
Damn..I’m a sucker for sequenzer and I hope, I can avoid to buy this one 🙈 wish my luck 🍀 🤞
Now I'm even more hyped. Thanks for sharing!
This sounds so good.
A great vibe on that track, Ricky. Thank you for sharing 👍
With regards to this instrument, after watching/ listening to many videos, the pros are that it sounds great, the workflow is smooth, and it looks (and most likely feels) like a premium product.
The cons are the price & the workflow.
No matter which way you look at it, 80 to 90% of musicians wont buy it due to that. But it could be argued that many upper tier studio instruments (I'm thinking of some beautiful, heavyweight- literally- analog polysynths) are in a similar category.
The workflow itself palls in leiu of the usual DAW & controller scenarios & even the Akai keys / hardware UX/ UI. But maybe that's the idea, as to ease you into a different workflow, which does look like it could be fun if you feel the vibe.
T.E. always do things differently , as do.elektron, whose boxes i sadly cannot find a way to work for me. But limitations can be a wonderful thing. I've written tracks just using monosynths with no way to store patches(using one of them as a drum/percussion unit), and it pushes you into a discipline that'll help you creatively, if you're feeling the flow.
Ultimately, it's horses for courses and whilst i have no idea whether I'd use or buy one of these, i respect the creativity and risk taken to bring this to market.
guys the OP-Z is great and it's only like $430 on TE's website. it's not as "premium" or intuitive but it has the same inspirational workflow and more than enough functionality to make great sounding sequences.
only :)
@teeceedee it's literally so worth it. same cost as many less capable grooveboxes on the market and so much fun to use
@@skip2682 i didnt say anything other than 500 bucks is some money i think that from all of them that one is the most "worth it"
it’s pretty dope - and it does the cool transpose trick and has the step components. wonder why elektron hasn’t integrated the transposing into their devices. XY is cooler than OP-Z but $2000k cooler? in the wallet of the beholder!
@@biiiiiiiliiiiiiieeiiiilisssshh like what? Grååskala, a swedish electronic music guy who was helping to develop it was showing some of his tracks made with XY saying he couldn’t have done them with the OP-Z, and that he did an OP-Z album and tried doing that stuff and couldn’t.
i won’t be able to afford the XY for a few years, especially since i bought the Op1f so i’ll be using my OP-Z for some time, but that’s what i heard.
Now I’m looking around at what I need to sell in order to afford this. 😂
Space is a huge factor for me and this checks a lot of boxes.
I needed to see this, the fun parts. Everyone is concerned with the price and rightly so. But the funnest, not best, device I ever bought years ago was the OP-1. I used it all the time no matter what other gear I had. I now have a polybrute, mpc live, deluge, sp404 and a bunch of modular gear and I still use my OP-1 field the most. Its just fun and thats something that gets lost in the price which is really "value to you" when you get beyond the number. That price is crazy but the value:fun ratio is pretty high from what im seeing. Thanks Ricky.
check out the yamaha seqtrak, if you're mentioning price being expensive here then you'd love the price on the seqtrak and it's equally as fun
I'm the exact same! I have a P6, Ob6, MPC Live II, and just sold most of my modular gear because I find myself using the OP-1 field the most. I've sampled every oscillator I own into it now I have 'em in my backpack. I can't afford the the xy, but if it brought the same amount of joy as the op1-f, I'd start selling shit and save up for a used one. Ricky's tracks here are just too inspiring.
Yea the fun factor is hard to convey and gauge through video too. Especially since a lot of it is relative, I like running it's fun but I knew a few folks who'd rather not! hahaha. Thanks for tuning in Hasan!
Thats what happens if the machine controls you instead of you controling the machine.
@@elementlab41 Most definitely. OP-1 limited me in the right ways to just produce. i have an mpc live 2, bought every plugin when they release it, i just dont use it, even less with the 3.0 update. Right now its op-1 field and the deluge and the XY is probably going to slide right in.
Deliciously smooth track, Ricky!
wow, lots of dope sounds there my friend! Super cool beat!
Much appreciated! Thank you
It's the most brilliant machine I've ever used! Feels like it's 2024.
I really like this song you made @Ricky!
Two things worthwhile knowing about smart transpose: the novation circuit all have it, even the OG, and as cool as it is, a lot of the signature house harmony came from chromatic (not smart) transposition that was available on the original MPCs, essentially creating key changes even in songs with just two or three chords, so both smart and "dumb" transpose are cool.
this is the nicest music I’ve heard you create, sounds very good 😊
Super entertaining video G!
What headphones are you wearing?
In what way does the OP-XY better the Deluge?
much smaller
If small is what you want and fully featured then I would go for the Woovebox. Check its features !
More advanced than Reason 13 with all the midi players?? It will be fun to try reproduce the OP-XY in a Reason Combinator!
@@re8et355 it can be done easily with free plugins and you can have the same feel by using your actual computer keyboard and keyboard shortcuts. You have space bar adapted to land ahead after pause on the drop, and use garbage bands inbuilt keyboard.
Its incredible how close it gets!
Just search free plugins for the op1 i think the clip was called, and look for an asian guy called Mike.
I think you can do that transpose trick, or similar, on the Yamaha QY sequencers from the 90s
You can.
@@andrewhorton5101 Yeah, and (based on what I paid for mine) you could get almost nice QY700s for the price of one of these things
Is there a Ricky Tinez black friday code for a 50% discount?
LOL I wish
@@RickyTinezYou can type LOL I wish at the checkout all you want but code does not work😂
Most of the comments can be summerized as:
I want this
I can't have this
I hate this
Or combined as a note to self... :D
I think that’s not fair. I myself am anticipating Schadenfreude when the build quality turns out to be shitty. 😂😂😂
Adding a few:
I hate everyone who dares like this
I envy/hate everyone who dares buy one
I don't like my life and only find meaning in being angry in the comments
Deep breaths, unnecessarily angry people--you can choose a different path that will bring you more joy and meaning.
I don't want this
@@allthatforwhat that in its self is known before release so thats evil :)
Thing sounds amaaazing 🔥
Maestro seems rly handy feature
I'd like to see this sync'd and used with the OP-1 Field.
This sounds amazing!!!!
I decided to buy one because nothing has inspired me lately, to the point that I’ve sold basically all of my gear. If this little device is able to spark inspiration in me, and bring music making back into my life, then $2,300 is a small price to pay.
tbh at this point u should look for the inspiration to make music by listening to music. finding new and cool gear should inspire to make cool gear
gas is gas tho, so i get it
dumb.
Hope it does the trick fren
How much of the gear you bought and sold was borne of this exact thought pattern?
This is a thought pattern that is destined to fail.
You have been gaslit, yet again.
Didn't blow mine. You enjoy it.
Be looking forward to hearing all the great tracks you will be making on it since you like it so much.
Cant wait.
Thanks! I have 2 in the works now :) I appreciate the support
I will buy one but not for full price!! I can wait a while for the price to decimate like all TE stuff does..
Can't wait to hold it in my hands. Fantastic video. Thx for sharing
The good result it's 20% the instrument 80% Ricky ......
the last sound you play on that track is what will play on the beat repeat
It looks really fun and I wish I was able to afford it. It's disheartening that I probably never will. I wish they made more affordable mass market stuff😅
The EP-133 KO 2 is affordable mass market stuff
@ripskip160 and it's great. But for a bit more I will be buying p6 which isn't as fun looking but will allow me to do way more.
@@nashotobitoyrover6408 What's a p6?
@@ripskip160 Roland p6, it's not as fun looking as te stuff, but for 200$ seems very powerful small sampler/grovebox for amatures who like to play with sounds. Will be buying for my daughter for Christmas (so I can also play with it with her 😄).
Sorry Ricky, 2300 bux has to blow my mind more than this.
There is a key combo or sequence to start patterns and probably scenes at first step after the current one ends.
Is everything made of aluminium? Like the buttons and the knobs too? Or only the chassis and everything else is plastic?
Can you do a demo with some modular? Really curious to see how the sequencing works with that. Thanks!
What headphones do you use?
Hey Ricky What about exporting projects in your daw?
there are people comparing this with roland aira compact, this is another level... only elektron and erica synths matching this quality
Thank you. One question, if I may: is it possible to play notes into the sequencer in real time with a connected controller keyboard? Or do you have to use the buttons on the device to record the notes? Best.
It will be possible. Surely!!
@@leftmono1016 Thank you, yes. I'm currently reading the awesome manual. Under 22.7 it says: "coming soon: control OP-XY with a midi keyboard." So this will be implemented with an update. It has to be able to do that, because the internal keyboard is out of the question for me to input. Regards.
I loved this features on OPZ and I was bummed about the synths quality and mono samples. Now this is what we wanted from OPZ.
I got one too. Lookin forward for it.
Also Ricky, I discovered how to alter separate drums with filters and shit. Basically you alter a drum, hit sample and resample it onto itself. Then reset the filters and shit.
Basically you hard print the fx on the oneshot and create a copy of the kit.
just use the opz to sequence synths on ios or externally…
@alecsbuga That's an inconvenient workaround and shit
Love your work Ricky, you're just brilliant! but, up against a Syntakt would there be much difference in the end result with this -XY?
can you use maestro itself (without Brain) to enter different chords at various steps in the sequence, in other words arrange a custom chord progression within a key (with maybe a few notes out of key) then have Brain transpose that chord progression, and all the relative notes like the lead track, to a different key in subsequent sections?
Is this all applicable on midi tracks to external instruments, or only internal instruments?
Fantastic, but it's worth about 6 OP-Zs second-hand... and with 6 OP-Zs in series, the melodic and rhythmic potential is enormous!!
It's beautiful, I can't wait for someone to leave one at my workplace and the not return to collect it from the lost & found for over 3 months so I can have one.
Keep 'em comin' Rick.
I think people misunderstand the market for something like the OP-XY. It's a very cool device for crazy money. It's very much a luxury purchase. It's for a specific group of people that many of us are not a member of. That's OK. This is how the market works - you put out a product, you market it, and you price it, and people buy it or they don't. That said, the profit margins on this thing must be silly high.
The problem that it’s not a luxury product 😄
so why are youtubers trying to promote it to us regular producers in channels we thought are for regular Producers??? so we can long for what we choose not to afford???
@@ucheattohricky’s just making sick tunes man, it’s not that deep
@@SergeyCoder - it is a luxury product 😉
@@ucheattoh he also reviewed the deckards dream… what’s your point? Go bang 2 sticks together and record that if you want everything to be cheap. The world isn’t going to cater to you and your budget everywhere you go.
The price is insane for what you get.
(Remembering the sentence that you don’t buy a machine, but a workflow)
The global adsr on the drum parts is an absolute deal breaker.
The solo lfo is a joke.
Incomprehensible from a customers point of view.
The phrase that limitations would increase creativity is in my eyes not applicable as these limitations just make a shit mix.
But it’s also teenage engineering not teenage musicians.
(Edit: Ricky does a great job in explaining cons and pros here! This is not meant as critique on him! And I hope the interaction boost from people arguing here helps him haha)
true qand for reral mixing a track out of this device sucks for real i had the op 1 for a decade and i used it 7 times or so
@@teeceedeeWTF did you hold on to it for so long if you didn't use it? 😂
@@ripskip160 mm i had it around , used it a bit , put it back in its palce . you dont need to sell everything .....you know?
@@teeceedee Only way I would hold gear for that long is if I knew its value was gonna explode
@@ripskip160 ohhh cool !
Great track!
It's always the price with TE. It boggles my mind how, somehow, this thing is one of the few devices with in scale transposition/chord generation/key transition. 99% of music bars (ABAC AABA ,etc) is just transposing an idea/chord around a key. Even the DN I and II, for some reason, don't have page/pattern transposition and on top of that locking the arp to a scale, or a chord player that also is within a key. Seeing all the scale/transposition/chord/shifting abilities with this thing is so annoying because all these very important composition tools, are not processor/RAM intensive, and are lacking in everything, yet here they are in this $3000 toy. :|
TE knows how to make devices that are super simple to make full songs on. All the other boxes are still lacking in that regard. Transitions, drops, chord/keychanges, all that are so easy with TE devices, yet, in contrast, go to elektronauts and you'll see 100 posts asking "Any tips on how to compose a transition from one pattern to the next?! I'm stuck in 64 step land HELP!"
What do you expect from a company that sells a junk market table for 1.5 grand? Expandable with the 80bucks fucking t-a-p-e holder. Yes, like „duct tape“
Your scale/chord/key point boggles my mind too. "Arranger" products have had this for literal decades, and you can even go handheld with them if you look into the Yamaha QY series. You just have to be willing to use 30-year-old gear. ;)
@@jg_ultra the Elektrons also have these features, but most users don't read the manuals :) (Not a dig against OP - their point is more or less spot on otherwise)
The transposition feature on the OPZ made me want every bit of gear to have that. It’s so powerful!❤️
@1UpBebop What on earth are you trying to say, or ask??
Your comment isn't coherent.. "One of the few devices with in scale transposition/chord generation/key transition. 99% of music bars (ABAC AABA ,etc) is just transposing an idea/chord around a key."
It's not one of the one of the only devices that do this. That's on almost every daw in one way or another. Cheap electronic keyboards do similar to that. It's called PRACTICE MODE. 99% of music involves doing the things you mentioned, not having a piece of technology that does that for you. What do you do if a computer tells you what notes to play, in what key, where? Tell it how long and when to start/stop is the answer.
We went from having too many number one hits and bands for top 10 lists or radio segments in the 60's and 70's, to this circus? LOL
Man this generation is weak.
Great video! Thank you so much!
What a great track!
Should have been a collab with Balenciaga at the price point. And no, that's not a dis, maybe just a pitch. Drop the price on the current model and do a few high fashion streetwear collabs with the current price😢
loved the play-out
great video✨ I want it now😆🔥
Problem with TE -> the price.....I always feel that there are other machines (or combination of machines) out there that have a fairer price and eventually even more capable of producing the wanted sounds...
Yeah their gear doesn't seem bad, but just nowhere near worth the price. The EP-133 seems somewhat reasonable, but still a bit on the expensive side for what it can do.
If the OP-XY was half the price I'd consider getting one .. second hand ..
I hate when the government mandates that I buy a thing I can't afford... oh wait...
Not the point. The point s the size and the feeling of using a “premium” device with the illusion that you’re not using software.
Synthstrom Deluge and Community Firmware ;)
But can you take all that stuff on the bus? To a cottage or hotel?
So curious to hear you playing with a jungle break on this.
why does it have no timestretch
Hello
Or we can listen to your music !!!!!
I love your videos, especially your creations, you're great.
Bonne continuation
Is the sampling the same as the Op-1? Can you chop, timestretch, trim, normalize, reverse...etc?
No youtuber has showed it yet....
This one does: ruclips.net/video/vvo-MYh4vdA/видео.htmlsi=Ml4I203IRByeSeN-&t=537
It's kinda the same as the OP-1 Field. Page 78 of the manual goes in depth about it.
2.300 € in Germany. What an insane Price Tag. Sorry TE, but even though this thing looks dope as it seems to be more "mature" compared to the Field - it's waaay too much money for most people interested in it. Which was already the case for the Field and the reason why i returned it back then. But thx for the Vid anyway @Ricky Tinez. It might fill a niche that the Field already did but i highly assume that it will never reach the heights of the original OP-1 anymore. And its a shame that this insanely high price tag is most likely the reason for that.
sounds very good
Can you live loop external audio with this?
its a toy man dont expect anything from this.
@Poulet39 It's exceptionally capable, as is the OP1-F. Small, but far from toys.
ok question, and what about "then what?" moment. How easy is it to transfer to DAW? Would I have to mute everything? Is it possible to do it track by track?
Thank you for sharing this follow-up video Ricky!! I just splurged and ordered it. 😬 Cant wait to dive in... 🎉... Also LOL at "intelligently AI" hahaha...
The fact you can do so much with just one bar is brilliant and just makes it killer for house. Also Ricky is definitely some of the best I heard.
@@TROGULAR10000 Nothing personal. If I never ever hear house again I won’t miss it. 45 years later it hasn’t changed. AI moved into DJ mode
Hi Ricky! re: @6:05 could you just stack another step component on that step to reduce its volume / velocity there?
I’ve accepted I won’t truly understand how this device works til Cuckoo feels better and makes a mega tutorial 😂
Hello, my question is the following: If you input audio "in real time" does the master track of the effects work for said audio in real time without the need to sample said audio? thank you
Dude, you can find tons of video manuals for OP-Z 😊
Does the OP-XY sequencer have features similar to the FILL mode and chance conditions from the Elektron sequencer?
Also for people complaining about the price: there are people paying $3k on a guitar. And at the end of the day it sounds like a guitar. The OP is way more versatile. Depends on what you want.
What do you mean exactly by "more versatile"?
I have some sweet guitars that cost only $500. Where can I find the $500 op-xy? I guess the op-z is sort of like that? To extend the op-z/guitar comparison, it would have a warped neck and be missing all the knobs and a few frets. 😂😂😂
@@StatetrooperBillyBillcan you put an MPC x SE in a backpack tho? I know that you can do the same with other gear, but I think the main appealing of this is the portability
@@synthesauriov3195If portability destroys convenience - it’s a bad product. Yes, there’re a ton of backpacks that fit MPC Live2/One.
People spend 3k on onlyfans too. Doesn’t mean it’s right
A question about factory content. Does the device have preset drum patterns when you buy it?
I don’t critizise the price because this product is extremely well designed, the screen UI, the ergonomics, perhaps has a few workflow issues but, seems they spend a lot of time in details related to design, is just a tool, a great tool, but no matter how good of a tool if the operator has no talent, it will always produce nothing. Same goes for more basic tool, in the hands of a talented and creative producer it is more than enough, cheers.
I think that's why i never really got into TE's punch-in fx. Imo they're just a bit too loud/in your face most of the time. But if we could adjust the volume for them...
awesome walk thru and beats
Just like the OP-Z, this seems to nail the “i know what it’s going to do but I’m not sure exactly how it will sound” experience. It’s a very exciting way to make music, and the XY looks like it will avoid the Z’s severe durability issues. Shame the price makes this a non-starter for me because it really seems to fix everything i disliked about the OP-Z while keeping all the good bits!
So if you made a track you really like, like this one, would/could you bring this into a DAW somehow? Isolate tracks and record it? Do a live performance like the end of this video, then edit it?
Super dope beat.
No 2. A lot of the comments on YT regarding the price point on the OP-XY. Do people actually take into account that a big WHACK of the overall price is Tax?
Casio Chord strikes again!!
most of this was present in the og opz enrique 😙
oh damn! that's awesome!
@@biiiiiiiliiiiiiieeiiiilisssshh shill is a word coming to mind.