Bad Gear - Roland TR-8

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    Welcome to Bad Gear, the show about the world's most hated audio tools. Today we are going to talk about the Roland TR-8 Rhythm Performer. Has this 2014 drum machine already become a classic???
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  • @neurotransmission6825
    @neurotransmission6825 3 года назад +51

    Come for the jokes and insight into gear, stay for the 90's references and sick jams.
    And lol at the guy that sold this for a drumbrute.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +9

      Thanks! That one had me ROFLing too!

  • @imhatchmantoo
    @imhatchmantoo 3 года назад +56

    This guy can take any piece of gear and really make it do some awesome stuff

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +5

      Thank you so much!!!

  • @CroixMedia
    @CroixMedia 3 года назад +84

    I love how in Ableton you kept that "How to Report a Crash" tutorial up. I've been feeling that a lot recently.

    • @jdssurf
      @jdssurf 3 года назад +1

      Why ? Does it crash a lot for ppl

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +13

      Every. Single. Time.

    • @jdssurf
      @jdssurf 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz wtf then, what should I pick if I wanna use lots of hardware synths but DAW sounds as well?

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +4

      @@jdssurf it's more of s computer problem than an Ableton one. Reaper works on more or less every pocket calculator;)

    • @jdssurf
      @jdssurf 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz So you would pic reaper over Ableton…………………I have to pull the trigger soon, I don’t want to shoot myself in the pecker

  • @cameronallen2174
    @cameronallen2174 3 года назад +3

    I’ve had my TR-8 for years and JUST learned how to set the gain of individual instruments thank you!! Great video as always

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Thank you!!! Gain staging is key!!!

  • @Redge.
    @Redge. 3 года назад +139

    The TR-8S (updated version of the TR-8, that includes a digital display and dozens of other classic Roland drum kits included) is my baby that ticks all of the boxes... yet somehow this video still makes me want a TR-8. Great work!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +12

      Thanks!

    • @Spherical_El
      @Spherical_El 3 года назад +9

      Prices of OG double by Monday.

    • @ClifBratcher
      @ClifBratcher 3 года назад +12

      Love the TR-8S, but I really wish Roland would either make an editor for it or expand its sysex capability. There's so much under the hood hiding behind all those menus.

    • @Redge.
      @Redge. 3 года назад +3

      @@ClifBratcher YES! totally agreed

    • @modalmixture
      @modalmixture 3 года назад +7

      @@ClifBratcher Yeah, Roland is great at providing way too many features/settings than the interface can realistically make use of. The sheer number of parameters for some of the effects is a little ridiculous. Do I really need to adjust the reverb early reflection and diffusion rates in a TR style drum machine? No. Could I do with a non-headache-inducing way to program pitch changes for the samples? PLEASE.

  • @matthewlister3755
    @matthewlister3755 3 года назад +117

    "The sounds are spot on..."
    *shows screen shot of Rebirth*
    It's the little touches that makes this such a great show. That got a big chuckle out of me.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Thank you!!!

    • @adrianoconnor3020
      @adrianoconnor3020 3 года назад +7

      I loved rebirth,it sounded great

    • @benmatthews8732
      @benmatthews8732 2 года назад +2

      So glad someone else laughed at that, because that was a very good joke.

    • @BigEpinstriping
      @BigEpinstriping 2 года назад

      @@benmatthews8732 I still have my copy. With the mousepad.

    • @Stopinvadingmyhardware
      @Stopinvadingmyhardware 2 года назад

      Then you find out they used the Rebirth algorithms for the emulation

  • @colinreynolds01
    @colinreynolds01 3 года назад +1

    Came for the reviews, stayed for the badass jams. I just stumbled across your vids a few days ago and have since binged the lot. Fantastic stuff, brother!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thank you!!! Stick around!!!

  • @Spherical_El
    @Spherical_El 2 года назад

    One of the best reviews I could hope to watch - thanks .

  • @old_romans
    @old_romans 3 года назад +8

    Here I am in my office having lunch with my co-workers enjoying the stock footage of coworkers enjoying work

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Co-work-ception!!!

  • @SirRigbyBaconKaiser
    @SirRigbyBaconKaiser 3 года назад +20

    Okay I love the fact you chose the best of both worlds from TNG. This feels exactly what Roland wanted, an "analogue" experience with digital hardware.

  • @ASH-ou4cg
    @ASH-ou4cg 3 года назад +1

    What an amazing song you made with this. So warm and relaxing!

  • @Owoshima_
    @Owoshima_ 3 года назад +5

    This video really brings the "album when?" questions to the spotlight. Absolute fantastic video, and equally fantastic audio demos.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! Which of the 8 requested albums are you referring to?;)

    • @Owoshima_
      @Owoshima_ 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz All of them. or a nice YT LP/EP of demos potentially.

  • @MusicianParadise
    @MusicianParadise 3 года назад +4

    that scutter voice over was spot on , and your show is rollercoaster of emotions!

  • @TheScreamingFrog916
    @TheScreamingFrog916 Год назад +10

    I love mine. Got the expansion for it too.
    I think it really sounds good, and has fun features, to spice up your jams.
    And I love the Green accents and colored LED buttons.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Год назад

      Nice!

    • @iterativeincremental
      @iterativeincremental Год назад +1

      yeah. it took me a while to get over the minimalism. It is a good new take. surely lacks in some areas. On the other hand the input with sidechain is a bummer that alone can drive a whole liveset ....

  • @LouisSerieusement
    @LouisSerieusement 3 года назад

    Damn, I leave 2 weeks or so and have already 3 episodes to watch !
    I'm glad you keep making those in the summer but I still hope you enjoy some sort of vacation !

  • @null_state
    @null_state 3 года назад +2

    Great video, as always. The TR8 as the Borg, what a beautiful way to start the episode! Resistance is Futile.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! Resistance is GROOVY!!!

    • @null_state
      @null_state 3 года назад

      @@AudioPilz I am Locutus of Borg, and I am here... to DANCE *Borg Techno Intensifies*

  • @15913Music
    @15913Music 3 года назад +6

    My first thought was that it was very bold to go after such a relatively new piece, but having used both the TR-8 and the TR-8S extensively I agreed with every single point you made.

  • @n.l.j
    @n.l.j 3 года назад +4

    This episode is on another level, props.

  • @skywatchernorth
    @skywatchernorth 3 года назад

    Absolutely right that paid upgrade is some absolute bollocks.
    Loved the show as always Florian!

  • @callummacdonald9610
    @callummacdonald9610 3 года назад +2

    Thanks for the consistently top notch content man!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @lairdkilbarchan
    @lairdkilbarchan 3 года назад +220

    Haha, another centre piece of my creativity brought into disrepute. You really should just come round my place and save yourself the hassle of any further research. 😁👍

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +49

      Pics or didn't happen😂

    • @lairdkilbarchan
      @lairdkilbarchan 3 года назад +22

      @@AudioPilz Dear Sir, I shall happy to provide the documentary evidence requested in due course. Yours sincerely, etc etc..

    • @avarlin
      @avarlin 3 года назад +1

      Same.

    • @nachshonrorick
      @nachshonrorick 3 года назад +6

      Yes, I have a tabletop full of stuff that was featured! Xio synth, Rc-09, microsampler...bring on the SH-32 and EF-303 feature 😜

    • @lairdkilbarchan
      @lairdkilbarchan 3 года назад +20

      ​@@nachshonrorick It's beginning to dawn on me that music tech people are so insatiable that eventually EVERYTHING EVER MADE will eventually find itself on Bad Gear. You can guarantee even the finest bit of kit isn't good enough for somebody somewhere. You've gotta hand it to Florian, he's found a job for life. lol.

  • @rodmorrison47
    @rodmorrison47 3 года назад +4

    I got mine used and already expanded with 707 sounds. I love it! Even the Return of the Jedi black & green colour scheme does it for me. I've gone into the settings and changed the TR colours on the buttons to green also, so it's like being in a sci fi movie when I use it in low light conditions. Awesome.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      I used sunglasses for the production of this episode;)

    • @micy80
      @micy80 Год назад

      The 707 sounds upgrade are available for free or you need to pay? I am abou to buy a tr8 but unsure about this part. Appreciated!

  • @paulbmorgan
    @paulbmorgan 3 года назад +1

    Excellent point about the new Akai MPC upgrade, I updated mine today and the new synth plugins add so much - the Solina Strings are wonderful...and all for free, well done Akai. My Bass Station II (and Citcuit) despite being long in the tooth is still admirably supported by Novation and their last update effectively turbo charged the synth. Unforgiveable that Roland want over 100usd for some samples which you would expect to have on the machine from the outset; these should at very least be offered to loyal Rolandites at a later date. I have been a Roland fan boy for many years but your excellent diatribes are helping me to see the light, cheers!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! Yup, the big name keeps them afloat

  • @AH-wt7zu
    @AH-wt7zu 3 года назад

    Always a pleasure, great work once again

  • @matrix12x
    @matrix12x 3 года назад +7

    "So what did they mess up this time?".... love it!!

  • @Dudderlyful
    @Dudderlyful 3 года назад +22

    ITS FRIDAYYYYYYYYYY HERE WE GOOOOOOO... And now, back to our scheduled show

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Thanks Moog it's Friday!!!

    • @Dudderlyful
      @Dudderlyful 3 года назад +1

      @@AudioPilz Thanks heavens for Moog!

  • @anthonycotham4346
    @anthonycotham4346 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hi! I recently downloaded the 7x7 pack. and while I had never played with 707 sounds before I may never stop. Definitely worth the upgrade. Also I got the tr-8 because of this video. Same with your other videos for the little Yamaha sampler and the tb-3. Overall the three make an unassuming, affordable and fun rig. Thank you Mr. BadGear. Xoxo

  • @patrickg.259
    @patrickg.259 3 года назад

    Nice! Just received my TR-8S today and was thinking the TR-8 might be a worthy contender for your show…. et voilà! Well done!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! Always on time!

  • @thestinkyweasel6297
    @thestinkyweasel6297 3 года назад +3

    Another great video, and another FAB Jam! Might I suggest (if you get around to it, I bet you have a LONG list by now) the Roland Verselab MV-1? A true modern conundrum of a groovebox/ drum machine/ DAWless DAW in a confusing and jumbled package? Truly worthy of a Bad Gear breakdown and demo. Thanks for the awesome videos!!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Thanks! Great idea!!!

    • @Matt-zp1jn
      @Matt-zp1jn Год назад +1

      Yes! This would be a great video on the MV-1 ‘s shortcomings, plus all its Versatility! 😊

  • @XanderEwald
    @XanderEwald 3 года назад +10

    I never took this thing seriously until I saw it in full effect in a video by Mylarmelodies. Once I realized it's a future classic in (ugly) disguise, I bought one right away. It's really fun and still the most convenient way to add the classic Roland drum sounds to your setup.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +3

      Yup, very powerful performance tool!

    • @N4SixString
      @N4SixString 2 года назад

      what video is that ?

  • @scottcupp8129
    @scottcupp8129 3 года назад +2

    This is a great instrument :) Very nice, programmable, and sound manipulation. I may look in to this one:) Great video my friend

  • @lairdtomfrenchelectromusic2545
    @lairdtomfrenchelectromusic2545 3 года назад +2

    Your videos, as well as your musical demonstrations are still as cult !!!
    Danke, dass du mich zum Träumen bringen musst, mein Freund. 👍

  • @fatuzi
    @fatuzi 3 года назад +18

    bad gear makes my fridays 🥰🥰🥰

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Happy to hear that, thanks!

  • @felixpeccatum1705
    @felixpeccatum1705 3 года назад +77

    The cancellation of the TR8 after the TR8s was to be expected. Still think the S bring more to the table in a studio setting, but I feel like I want a TR8, just for performance. Simplicity is sometimes just what you want, when balancing a beer, smoking a blunt and playing with your d-beam….

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +28

      Waiting for the d-beam upgrade;)

    • @felixpeccatum1705
      @felixpeccatum1705 3 года назад +3

      Stereo in to hook up your SH-201! Go nuts! :)

    • @Redge.
      @Redge. 3 года назад +8

      My thoughts exactly! I love my 8S for the amazing features it offers, but a straightforward approach like the TR8 can really speed up one's workflow

    • @Derzaubererer
      @Derzaubererer 3 года назад +4

      i have a tr8 and damn i want the tr8s 2.0 update its exaclty what im missing with my tr8:o

    • @myousickoflife
      @myousickoflife 3 года назад +3

      Perfectly said. The SH-201 and this bad boy go together like peanut butter and jelly

  • @anx1
    @anx1 3 года назад +1

    That jam with the tr8 and blofield and company was damm good I've got an rd8 with the flam thing but you sort of killed it using that scatter👌🔥

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! I really had to practice on the scatter. It's a bit unpredictable

  • @cyborgmetropolis7652
    @cyborgmetropolis7652 3 года назад

    ❤️ I always enjoy these uploads! ❤️

  • @CEF_LEF
    @CEF_LEF 3 года назад +3

    The TR8s scatter button is one of my best friends, interesting sounds with a Roland sp404a running through it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Yup, great on external sources

  • @fatcheese5534
    @fatcheese5534 3 года назад +16

    WTAF.... You had the chance but didn't mention the crunch!
    When using delay number 8 put the level all the way up and tweak the time and feedback you get a lovely chruch!
    I'll eat that for beakfast every day! :)
    I love mine! And will never part with it.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Thanks for posting that!

    • @Claidheambmor
      @Claidheambmor 3 года назад +2

      The screenshot of the FX modes at 2:10 shows 'delay' number 8 and its bit crushing powers!

    • @MBEG89
      @MBEG89 3 года назад

      Wow didnt know that, so many hidden functions

  • @hogbowlbeats
    @hogbowlbeats 3 года назад +1

    I was looking for an 808-style drum machine remake a few months ago, and this was one of them on my "maybe buy" list. Seeing its limitations, I'm glad I stuck with the Behringer RD-8. Great video!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Behringer RD-8 is certainly a solid choice!

    • @AnalogDude_
      @AnalogDude_ 2 года назад +1

      the voice circuits of the tr-808 aren't really complex and pretty much low part count. (easy to clone)
      the TR-909 is a different story, the guy who made these circuits should be considered a hero, did you know the TR-909 kick/bass drum consist of 3 VCO's while the TR-606, TR-808 are only one.

    • @streettrash_sid
      @streettrash_sid 7 месяцев назад

      @@AudioPilzwhy don’t you just stick your tongue straight down Uri’s trousers!
      Admit it, you love Behringer!

  • @KUSHGRAM
    @KUSHGRAM 3 года назад

    Love the TR8, for sure a bargain in the second hand market if you look at your first Drum machine. Love also your verdict , you’re totally right!
    Nicely done as usual!

  • @JonasHamill
    @JonasHamill 3 года назад +20

    Having to pay £100 extra just for the 606 and 707 samples is definitely my biggest gripe with this unit. Just needless

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +7

      Set the 707 free!!!

    • @zaksimmons6848
      @zaksimmons6848 3 года назад +2

      I think 606 is free with firmware update, and 707 includes 727.

    • @muzikman2008
      @muzikman2008 3 года назад +1

      @@zaksimmons6848 correct. I bought the 7x7 upgrade and got the 606 free 👍

    • @muzikman2008
      @muzikman2008 3 года назад +2

      I was expecting more drum machine updates like the CR78 but it never arrived.. They brought out the TR8S instead. Not bought any roland gear since, felt cheated and robbed lol.

    • @2point7182818284590
      @2point7182818284590 2 года назад

      They are not only samples, though. But of course it's WAY too expensive.

  • @TimmyBolan
    @TimmyBolan 3 года назад +19

    The highlight of my week, every week.

    • @ayashi3288
      @ayashi3288 3 года назад

      This and regular car reviews

    • @AboveEmAllProduction
      @AboveEmAllProduction 3 года назад

      Same but I think I'm growing out of it 😞❤️

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thank you so much!

    • @min-yishen9324
      @min-yishen9324 3 года назад

      I know there is something wrong in my brain when I chose to watch Bad Gear before Tour de France and Euro 2020.

    • @cl1xor
      @cl1xor 3 года назад

      Use it in your daily life to enjoy it at other days: at the first glance this lunch / excel sheet / quarterly result is ticking all the boxes :)

  • @TheRemixGeneration
    @TheRemixGeneration 3 года назад +1

    I am here! and at the first glance this video is great!

  • @RobertDorschel
    @RobertDorschel 3 года назад

    I want to point out that 1) I have the TR8 + 7x7 expansion; 2) I watched this video on my studio setup with Yamaha HS8 + HS8S sub and cranked it boom chika boom; and 3) my TR8 is now off the shelf and back to being played with. Thank you for relighting the fire here, Florian

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Always a pleasure, thanks!

  • @auxlen
    @auxlen 3 года назад +9

    I bought into the Aira range. I had the Tr-8, the mixer, and the TB-3 and spent many an evening jamming away. Sometimes that is the beauty of something, just fun. Yes, you could make music (ie record and master) but that was (IMHO) not what brought me joy.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +3

      The integration with the mixer seems super interesting!

    • @auxlen
      @auxlen 3 года назад +2

      @@AudioPilz It was a lot of fun...maybe look into it.

  • @DrJ3RK8
    @DrJ3RK8 2 года назад +5

    I'm a big fan of both TR-8 and TR-8S. I actually like using the original TR-8 better live, and the TR-8S better to do more intricately programmed things. Both sound excellent. I was surprised by how much I liked them.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад

      Roland certainly got the sound right on these

  • @vazfinestdjchozin1599
    @vazfinestdjchozin1599 3 года назад

    i CAN SEE WHY YOUR CHANNEL IS SO POPULAR. Thanks for the review.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @hellotherethisiskiminsung
    @hellotherethisiskiminsung 3 года назад +2

    Well, I've seen it a lot of times, but it really is magnificent... Those lights, the control... M8 it makes me wanna buy it

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      The lights can be quite annoying tbh;)

  • @evantraasdahl4040
    @evantraasdahl4040 3 года назад +10

    Hey love the show, I'd love to see an episode on the Yamaha QY70 as I feel it fits the general vibe of the show well. If you cant find one hit me up and I'll send you mine. Happy friday guy, thanks for the video!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +7

      Great suggestion, thanks! QYs are on the list for much too long!

  • @vroenis
    @vroenis 3 года назад +5

    omg that Rebirth screenshot 😆😆
    Minidisc! Ticking all the nostalgia boxes!
    OK early 00’s corporate video music & stock footage is a step too far, I’m having flashbacks (good job 😆)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      😂😂😂

    • @liudas5377
      @liudas5377 3 года назад

      That rebirth screenshot.....

  • @unclemick-synths
    @unclemick-synths 3 года назад +1

    Great video. I'll be keeping my eye out for one of these if it's a bargain and already has the downloads.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! Prices are OK ATM!!!

  • @Yuzuki1337
    @Yuzuki1337 3 года назад +2

    I'll take "Things I did not expect to see here" for 500! :D Thanks for the episode as always and have a nice weekend! ❤️

  • @Frisqo
    @Frisqo 2 года назад +10

    The TR-8 is already a classic. It accompanied me at many performances. More versatile than you think, love it!

    • @andrewfar2461
      @andrewfar2461 2 года назад

      How you use It in a performance? I want to use It in USB mode, and put effects on It's channels. The problem Is that to use It in multitrack mode you have to use It as audio interface in ableton but i can't mute the dry sound from the drum machine (i hear ableton sounds + effected tr8 + TR8 DRY SOUND). How can i mute the dry sound, i don't want to use another audio interface because in that way i can't put different effects on every single Channel. Glad if you can help me

    • @Frisqo
      @Frisqo 2 года назад

      @@andrewfar2461 I just use the stereo out from the TR-8. If you want multitrack, you can work around with the assignable outs

  • @corrosiveabuser
    @corrosiveabuser 3 года назад +4

    I was wary of the ACB stuff from Roland when first released, having owned many of their classic pieces over the years, like many others I was hoping for some real analogue units, - but once I tried the little TR-08 Boutique, around the summer of 2018, I was really surprised. I now have 5 of the boutiques, the SH-01A, Ju-06A, TR-08, TR-06, TB-03 a TR-8s, System-8 and only recently managed to get hold of an immaculate secondhand TR-8 +expansions. With superb secondhand examples going for as cheap as £200, I couldn't resist buying the 8, - although I think I paid around £350, just to get an immaculate, as new, example...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Cool collection!!!

  • @onlychld6121
    @onlychld6121 2 года назад

    Is it weird that i've watched some of these episodes so many times I have unwillingly memorized some dialogue? Top RUclips show

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад +1

      ❤️❤️❤️Thanks!❤️❤️❤️

  • @Synthsound
    @Synthsound 4 месяца назад

    Wie immer: ein sehr cooles Video! Danke dafür 🙂 Zur TR-8: Der Grundsatz "Weniger ist mehr" gilt hier für mich persönlich absolut. Rasch viel liefern ohne stundenlanges Nachlesen im Handbuch, kein Menu-Diving wie bei der TR-8S. Ich habe meine erste TR-8 verkauft, weil ich mir eine TR-8s gekauft habe. Ich wurde aber nie glücklich damit und habe meinen Entscheid, die TR-8 wegzugeben, zu tiefst bereut.

  • @ultralife73
    @ultralife73 3 года назад +46

    Sequencing this thing with an external sequencer like the Beatstep Pro over midi wil REALLY give it more depth. Also: Get a second hand one with the upgrades for 707, 727 and 606 included. They are about 300 bucks. Great value for money. I love this thing. It sounds amazing, Roland's ACB absolutely nails the sounds of their own classic drum machines. Fuck all the naysayers! :-)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Yeah, I'd love to test the 7x7 upgrade!

    • @LousyFacelift
      @LousyFacelift 3 года назад +8

      The "naysaying" has to do with the fact that Roland obviously felt the need to "improve" on their ACB sound quality in their boutique versions and TR 8S only two years after the TR 8 was released, without offering a way to upgrade to the new standard, despite having marketed the TR 8 as a largely expandable concept. The difference in sound between these versions is hardly noticable, the whole debate is not really about sound quality, it's about Roland raising high expectations in the longevity of the TR 8 and then making a money greedy move by replacing it. They made it look future proof, sold tons of it and then did everything to make it look unattractive and devalue it after only two years. Not cool....

    • @PorchBass
      @PorchBass 3 года назад

      Until the mk2 with better sound....

    • @ultralife73
      @ultralife73 3 года назад

      @limelight81 Oh, this thing looks like a turd, totally agree :-)

    • @ultralife73
      @ultralife73 3 года назад +1

      @@LousyFacelift Ah, ok, yeah, that's a dick move. I can imagine feeling cheated when you paid full retail and two years later the machine was as good as abandoned in favor of the new and shiny, by it's own creator. I have had some discussions with people who think it does not sound good, and not like the originals. But that's probably nitpicking from their side. I think it sounds great. having said that, it's a bargain second-hand for 300 bucks, including the expansions...

  • @DonnDeVoreMusic
    @DonnDeVoreMusic 3 года назад +14

    I've always enjoyed the green-ness of it. and the sound.

  • @romanbrandle319
    @romanbrandle319 3 года назад

    Despite having reverted back to being a metal guitarist ,your channel is one of my favorites and as they would say in Swiss German but with bad spelling, " Du bisch e geile siech" which strangely keeps me hoping that they never stop making bad gear .

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! I'm pretty sure we will never run out of Bad Gear!

  • @BCThunderthud
    @BCThunderthud Год назад +1

    Just rewatching this and I laughed out loud at the inspirational business montage.

  • @snowleopard9749
    @snowleopard9749 3 года назад +3

    Sometimes I get worried that you're going to run out of Bad Gear to review, but then I realised that won't be a problem while Roland is still in business!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Yeah, Roland keeps this channel going!

  • @low_rise5030
    @low_rise5030 3 года назад +5

    "bald claim" - LMAO!! :D :D
    wether it was intentional or not - made my day!

  • @futureworldmachines4407
    @futureworldmachines4407 3 года назад

    I had my TR-8 for sale on reverb until I saw this, I'm keeping it now, thanks for making me sense!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Happy to hear that! Fun machine for jamming!

  • @ballpowermdk
    @ballpowermdk 3 года назад

    That little scatter jam in the middle is one of your best yet

  • @mitchelviolins210
    @mitchelviolins210 Год назад +3

    The 707 is my most used kit on this. Also the 909 kick through distortion gets wild.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Год назад

      Yeah, love 707 sounds!

    • @mitchelviolins210
      @mitchelviolins210 Год назад +1

      @@AudioPilz probably should have been free though lol

  • @issahumps
    @issahumps Год назад +6

    Got a tr-8s but I always come crawling back to the tr-8 😂. Very easy to just get into making drum loops. The tr-8s just feels overly complicated. I’m still a noob after a few years so maybe it’s me.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Год назад +1

      TR-8 is a modern classic!

  • @MrBeatcreep
    @MrBeatcreep 3 года назад +1

    das mpc update ist der wahnsinn. ich krieg die karre nur noch kurz aus um deine videos zu gucken. :)

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Danke für's Pause machen;)

  • @audiolego
    @audiolego 3 года назад +2

    That is the best drum machine I ever had. 29 tracks later. It was sold so I can now use a sampler, MPCX. I was going for Mc707 or TR8s but went with a true sampler. That acb is legit

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      True, ACB is pretty spot on

  • @sennstrato7281
    @sennstrato7281 2 года назад +5

    I use my tr8 all the time. It's fun!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад +1

      Agreed, super fun modern drum machine

  • @vladv5126
    @vladv5126 3 года назад +13

    ski-ba-bop-ba-dop-bop, I'm the scatter man

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +4

      Hit record material;)

    • @axidhaus
      @axidhaus 3 года назад

      SchizZzz going everywhere

  • @187onasimp
    @187onasimp 3 года назад +2

    I had this first but upgraded to the TR8S...then I sold my TR8S... missed it and brought it again a month later. That says enough right there... it's awesome.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Very immediate machine!

  • @audreyazwell
    @audreyazwell 2 года назад +2

    oh man for a second I thought you were doing the TR 8s lol I'm like "wait isn't that a fairly universally loved drum machine?!" lol I know next to nothing about the previous model so I can't wait to dig in!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад

      That one is really nice but - well - not perfect;)

  • @synthlord2368
    @synthlord2368 3 года назад +11

    Another review on a piece of gear I own.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Nothing personal;)

  • @FuZZbaLLbee
    @FuZZbaLLbee 3 года назад +11

    Finally discussing a machine I have
    Actually not bad gear 😋

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      You know the drill: one man's Bad Gear;)

    • @abstractmodule4574
      @abstractmodule4574 3 года назад

      Welcome to my world. They got me with the MicroKorg episode. Lol

    • @TheOriginalEUrban
      @TheOriginalEUrban 3 года назад +2

      MicroKorg ES2 user here. I consider it a badge of honor to see my toys on this series.

  • @andrewstanworth529
    @andrewstanworth529 Год назад +1

    The TR8 is a wonderful piece of gear! It's so unroland like when it comes to the workflow! It just works!! Very Well! Shocked 😮! And pleased!

  • @kassemir
    @kassemir 3 года назад +1

    that footage of a guy putting a white square in a frame up next to a photo of you on a white wall - love it :D

  • @jacobtaves8471
    @jacobtaves8471 3 года назад +3

    Love the show, still want you to track down a zoom street box drum machine!

    • @kingcobra124
      @kingcobra124 3 года назад

      Hell yeah, I just got a RT-123 RhythmTrax. It would be sick to see it on here!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks for the suggestion! I still have to find enough hate for it;)

  • @gordon2402
    @gordon2402 3 года назад +13

    Auch wenn acid ziemlich einfach zu programmieren ist ( wenn man es als erfahrener Musiker mal genau nimmt)
    Aber du schüttelts mal wirklich paar coole lines hin . 👍🏻🎹🎶

  • @syntxtre
    @syntxtre 3 года назад +1

    TR8 is a great drum machine. No parameter locking but did offer complete MIDI CC control over all the parameters including scatter depth and pattern selection tuning and decay for all instruments.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      That's the good thing about the midi implementation of the TR-8;)

  • @alchimerical2613
    @alchimerical2613 3 года назад +2

    I love how this show points out everything bad about a bit of gear and then makes said bit of gear sound great.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад

      Thanks! That's the mission!!!

  • @annee1272
    @annee1272 3 года назад +4

    7:27 hahaha you nailed it with the "inspirational" corporate videos lmao

    • @gasolineandwine
      @gasolineandwine 3 года назад

      727 time stamp?

    • @annee1272
      @annee1272 3 года назад

      @@gasolineandwine wdym

    • @gasolineandwine
      @gasolineandwine 3 года назад +1

      @@annee1272 727 as in Roland TR-727 😎

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +3

      Thank you!!! They're a constant PITA;)

    • @RumchugMusic
      @RumchugMusic 3 года назад +1

      I can feel the synergy.

  • @blimolhm2790
    @blimolhm2790 3 года назад +4

    Behringer is waking up Roland to create new unique instruments, one classic at a time.. thankfully The Matrix colour scheme didn't lure me into grabbing one of these. My volca drum still keeps me very happy to this day as a percussion/tone generator.
    You look so futuristic in a turtle neck

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Turtle neck & chain!!! ;)

    • @187onasimp
      @187onasimp 3 года назад +1

      lol, Behringer isn't doing anything but rummaging around in Roland's closet. Roland has always innovated their products they never look back it's why they haven't gone back to analog but instead perfect technology to make a more efficient version of it with ACB tech. The TR8 was impressive as it had everything you could want from an 808 but when they made the TR8S they pretty much gave you all of Rolands best offerings in one box that covers it all.

    • @smts0243
      @smts0243 3 года назад +2

      @@187onasimp calling a company innovative for doing nothing much for the past 25 years but putting samples of their glorious past into yet another plastic box, may be a bit bold. It's like a news outlet that goes from paper to web in a bid to stay current, but then keeps printing the exact same articles every year. The super saw was the hoarse last breath from a company with more to look back on than to look forward to. I know that's an over the top statement, but it's the comment section of bad gear and all in fun 😀

    • @lumer2b
      @lumer2b 3 года назад

      @@smts0243 Oh the horror, a company using their own IP in newer products! BTW those are not samples, but emulation of the analog circuits. You can tweak parameters you can’t on sample boxes, and they sound good.

    • @smts0243
      @smts0243 3 года назад

      @@lumer2b oh the innovation. Totally new sonic experiences 😁

  • @AngelusNielson
    @AngelusNielson 2 года назад +1

    This channel wouldn't be half as great without your accent. Good stuff.

  • @TT-md7mm
    @TT-md7mm 3 года назад

    Bruh, got me sold on your channel within the first 3 seconds, just gonna go ahead and hit that subscribe button. lol

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thanks for subscribing!

  • @framzoid
    @framzoid 3 года назад +38

    It's a very "in demand" unit these days. It's pluses outweigh it's minuses and I ALWAYS thought it's 808 and 909 emulations were dead on.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +10

      Really like the sounds too!

    • @jimmywheelo
      @jimmywheelo 2 года назад +1

      coupled with the full midi implementation it's a must have for X0X heads. Sequenced from the DAW it is hard to beat

  • @oldowl4290
    @oldowl4290 Год назад +3

    As an older drummer who is mainly into EDM music I have to say I find it kind of odd how much old school electronic drum sounds still permeate most, if not all, dance music even now in 2022 some 40 years after the 808. The sounds in something like the TR-8 are barely any different from what I have in my old MC-307 Groovebox. So I have to wonder is it the fact that most EDM music makers are not actually drummers with a kit to record so this is just what they use and are used to and or is it mostly a European thing? For example, you'll find USA west coast bass music, neurofunk, future funk, etc, using a lot different and more modern, more realistic full drum sounds and samples (via DAW) and not any "OG" sounding machines like this which seem to still permeate hiphop, house, and techno. I definitely enjoy both styles but am also very surprised by how much the vintage drum machine sounds have stayed around, as again they are not that much different than their original counter-parts. Lastly, I've yet to hear any modern drum machine, synth based or sample based, including Roland drum pads like the SPD-SX or SPD-30 have any sort of modern, fuller, drum sounds. I'm 50 btw, and after a 20 year hiatus am diving back into playing as a DJ-Drummer. My IG is HydBtr.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  Год назад +2

      808s are classic sounds like a Stratocaster through a Marshall. It just works.

    • @oldowl4290
      @oldowl4290 Год назад

      @@AudioPilz Yes, it does but also consider that it “just works” mainly because that’s all you’ve heard for 40 years. We’ve all been conditioned to it. I’m heavily exploring new sounds with grit, dirt, glitch, detuned, gated, etc. I’ve never used drum machines much because I’ve always had real kits and also don’t really like pure electronic drum kits either. I like using triggers. I’ll be showcasing what I mean very soon. Also check out Sunhouse triggers. It’s a whole new world.

  • @Gmartin4049
    @Gmartin4049 3 года назад

    Brilliant. love the montage! well done dude. HA

  • @kemek3000
    @kemek3000 3 года назад

    Maybe it's the coffee talking but that was an exceptionally fun episode. Keep up the great work.

  • @Plexyglazz
    @Plexyglazz 3 года назад +17

    The stock footage video was a very disturbing match to your Royalty Free Music Tracks From Only One Dollar Downtempo AF Orchestral Glo-Fi Ballad.
    I definitely need a drink to recover from that!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +2

      Thanks & Cheers!!!

  • @mutantdisco87
    @mutantdisco87 3 года назад +18

    I laugh a lot with "What did they mess up this time"... Ah Roland... They were good 35 years ago...

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +7

      Make Roland great again;)

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee 2 года назад +1

    The last jam had such a wholesome and optimistic stock music video!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад

      🧘🏻‍♀️ 🧘🏻 🧘🏻‍♂️

  • @drop7vogue
    @drop7vogue Месяц назад +1

    Ahhh, a Bad Gear episode on a gear I'm looking for! Thank you for all of your videos 👌
    It's been a month or so that I daily watch RUclips videos or read stuff about drum machines, I'm looking for a simple but effective drum box to have fun with, with no menu diving to do sound design. I first took a look at the Drumbrute but the sounds are not for me, it seems that I'm an other Roland drum sounds guy 😅 I found some units for 150/200 bucks with the 7x7 expansion, hard to find something to compete in that price. The Volca Drum is interesting but not sure about the knobs solidity and have enough space around for my big fingers 😅 this conclusion helps me to take the right decision 👍 have a nice day!

  • @cooloutbeats
    @cooloutbeats 3 года назад +21

    I'll admit the 707 expansion is a bit pricey. However, it's worth noting that the Roland ACB tech isn't samples...even on sampled based units like the 707/727, Roland also modeled the non-pristine converters and signal path of the original units.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +5

      True, but the samples are still samples (just like the few sample-based voices of the 808/909 kits) - they certainly emulate the post-digital signal path of them

    • @cooloutbeats
      @cooloutbeats 3 года назад +2

      @@AudioPilz Perhaps there's some additional audio voodoo going on like crosstalk or aliasing...or just to offset R&D costs, it's built into the bottom line of the product to charge for the expansion since the TR8 doesn't import samples at all.
      Charging extra for little add-ons is common in software but still hardware manufacturers do this occasionally, like how Waldorf charges $100 just to enable a pitiful 60mb of sample loading into the Blofeld.

    • @cadra400
      @cadra400 3 года назад +3

      it seems they also modeled the phasing effect you get when playing snare and clap simultaneously, like on the TR-909 (where both circuits used the same noise source). apparently some people found that "annoying", but that's actually a very neat touch on roland's part.

  • @goo9637
    @goo9637 3 года назад +4

    The first drum machine that implements paid downloable content.... Roland always one step ahead !

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo668 3 года назад

    Ha! I have one of these. I haven't tried any of the latter things you have done with it though. Awesome vid yet again.

  • @MD_is_me
    @MD_is_me 2 года назад +1

    Ahhhh... I see what you did there with the episode thumbnail and TNG. Well played.

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  2 года назад

      Thanks!!! Classic color scheme!

  • @marcelfrehse
    @marcelfrehse 3 года назад +3

    ahhh my fridaily dosis of gear pr0n.

  • @cthallborgtheineffable5583
    @cthallborgtheineffable5583 3 года назад +3

    Yes

  • @soepil
    @soepil 3 года назад +1

    Another great video. Am I the only one thinking that the jam at 6:10 has some serious Chris & Cosey-vibes to it? :)

  • @jazzseba
    @jazzseba 3 года назад

    I'm a simple musician! I see bad Gear video release, I watch it! Thanks!!!

    • @AudioPilz
      @AudioPilz  3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much!