Hey, I hope you enjoy the video and I hope it answers a lot of your questions about game. Also, if you have other questions about the overall nature or efficacy of game, please don't hesitate to write them below... I'm more than happy to do a follow-up video if there are good questions/comments. Finally, we don't generally do long infield breakdowns on RUclips these days, but the infield for the thumbnail can be found in full here: systembytodd.com/ or a shorter version can be found for free here: www.toddvdating.com/vault
Hey its off topic but I have a question. You’ve talked about it before years ago about how to game differently between europe and america. I travel quite a bit and I’d actually be interested in a video like that but every region. Esp asia australia and places like dubai. Thanks
Great videoTodd as always. How does one start from scratch. Out again after the lockdown. Let’s say no social circle, what’s the blueprint? To go out approach girls and date them?
@@rubenjr4908 Exactly. Pickup isn't based in “theory”. It’s based in practice and experience. If back in the oldschool days Mystery found that Negs don’t work or Juggler found that it was better to tell all about yourself right away, that’s what the PUA teachings would reflect. All we care about is what consistently works in real life.
@Marsonic There's some truth to that. But you'd be surprised what a little charm can do for you. Especially if you work out and don't look like a troll.
Man I'm so grateful for all the incredibly valuable content Todd puts out. When I started game I was so sceptic, and also a virgin at 21, had not even kissed. Now with 23 I have such a great dating life. This week I had a date with my personal 10, a girl that my past self would have been looking at from the distance, thinking how I'd never have someone like that. The date went amazing, thej girl was chasing me HARD, and I was able to pull. And the best part is, as good as the girl is (and she was holy shit), I don't feel like I need her, I have abundance, if anything were to happen that would be okay, it's not hard for me to get a girl of that caliber again, and I'd say that all of this is mostly thanks to Todd, yes I also learned from other PUAs such as mystery, but game didn't really click for me until I saw Todds content, extremely nuanced explanations, that's when it all made sense. Thank you Todd!! You changed my life completely.
@Instant_Gaming honestly I think I’ve watched every single Todd video multiple times lol. Both in his main channel and his other channel (and even that channel that uploads his old rsd videos) and I found every single one of them extremely useful. however, if you want something concrete that I’d say is the best content by Todd it would be the system. There you’ll find everything you need, and the infields there are also god tier and are shown from start to finish, pretty much all the content from the system is just amazing. I’ve been following that model and I’d say I went from virgin to advanced in a couple of months, now I can pull almost everytime I go on a date, like 80-90%. I just realized this is so positive it sounds like shilling but it’s not, this is coming from my own experience, game works like black magic you guys.
@Instant_Gaming also, I’d say that the reason I got so good so fast might because I’m naturally good socially already, like I never had any issues making male friends or being funny, and even charismatic sometimes in social gatherings. It’s just that went it came to girls I just had no idea what to do, how to spark attraction, how to show her that I liked her without just literally saying out of nowhere like an anime confession lol, i did that twice and the girls rejected men and I was literally traumatized. I think that the most genius thing Todd ever came up with was the concept of Premise as opposed to showing intent, from the moment I understood that my success skyrocketed, it’s not comparable, telling the girl the reason you are talking is for a sexual relationship without giving away your power, so fucking smart. And it’s probably something no other guys does, whenever I see another guy trying to show intent is just hilarious, really once you have good game the difference with other guys is so big you can’t help but laugh and also feel a little bit bad for them.
@Instant_Gaming watch 10 videos of the most important thing that hurts of game from various coaches and execute on the solution. What he watched for his level wont help you in your level
dude say what you want about todd the guy is fucking good most PUA's channels have turned into self help bullshit Todd not only keeps talking about what he trully enjoys, but he keeps finding new things to talk about, with clear presentation . Great video brother
Agree, I always since genuine integrity with Todd. Don’t over do game. I am working on incorporating it just when I’m out snd about at a store concerts and regular life. I am not going to clubs every night like I was, but will go here and there. I feel more rested cause life is busy for us as adults. It’s more efficient for me. But Again, I since integrity’s and he is straight up from his experience.
Partly true - if you come across as anxious then this will transmit to her. But an unattractive guy who is very confident will just come across to a girl as delusional
This is an extremely brilliant video that summarizes and deals with all misconceptions about game in one take. One of the best of Todd V of the last 20 years in my opinion
11:00 - Exactly what has worked for me. I was way overanalyzing all of my interactions, so I originally just took a break from game altogether...but obviously the knowledge is still there, and I realized I can have mostly “normal” interactions and sprinkle in some game if the moment is right. It’s a little more subtle and I don’t feel like I need to force anything.
From what I can tell, that's the subtle distinction between intermediate in game and truly attractive advanced people in game. Once you adopt some of the behaviours and game becomes instinctual it gets much easier.
Oh God, I went on an instadate with this cute camp counselor I cold approached at a Barnes and Nobles. She asked what my passion was... and I could ONLY think of social dynamics (ie. learning to be present in the moment, self-improvement as a whole, etc). Todd is so fucking spot-on lol. I've been obsessive with game for literally a year now. I have no other hobbies
@ilum88 Are you playing professionally? Do you have an Instagram where you post your strategies about that game? Do you play other games and have a group of friends you play with? Do you go to game conventions? Develop a social life around video games, develop social skills, be proud of what you do and then start gaming. Also diversify your interests.
I made the same mistake in one of my first cold approaches; trying to validate the idea that as long as both parties are in agreement with the dynamics of the interaction, then it shouldn't be a frowned-upon measure for meeting women. I didn't get blown out nor did she hesitate to give me her number, but looking back, it was still WAY too much information- like validating your reeling method to a saltwater fish. My interaction was at a bookstore too, lol.
Guys. ""Game"" is being an attractive and valuable person and being able to **CONVEY** said attractiveness and value to other people. Will it get you everything you want 200% of the time? Of course not. But it will get you things more often then someone with no game.
I personally do cold approach on a regular basis and here are my thoughts on the controversirs of this subject: 1. Its works BUT! you cannot show that this is your lifestyle. You need to blend it with other areas of life coz otherwise people become suspicious 2. You cannot talk about it openly with people that don't understand it (99% of the population) - its a controversial subject and you are likely to lose friends, career etc if you confess that you do it 3. It can make you paranoid in social situations - you can become tpo focused on techniques and start suspecting that other people know about it too and the quality of your normal interactions will suffer 4. Understand the difference between game, cold approach, seduction and influencing. A lot of people who do daygame single sets call themselves seducers but all they do is spam approaching and getting number that flake. True results come when your see beyond just game, techniques and get the entire seduction process and learn how to apply it different areas/situations of your life So in summary - just like with everything else in life, there are strings attached. Its best to follow guidance to avoid the common pitfalls
I also have a chronic fatigue, and still able to game too. But the result is very bad. I went to tinder date, and was so tired that my convo became boring and emotionless. How about u?
I THOUGHT I had chronic fatigue once, but what I really had was a shitty sleep schedule and out-of-shape body. Try exercise my guy, worked miracles for my chronic pain and constant fatigue. Also coffee helps a lot.
The people that say game doesn't work are trying to avoid responsibility for them being incel. They need success with women to be fate so failure is justifiable instead of pathetic.
@John m I agree that it's not 100% game either and that it can be discouraging when you have to talk to 100 of them to find success. But when I say "incel" I'm not referring to the people who believe their decisions can affect outcome with women. That would make it voluntary. The incels are the ones that intentionally, often delusionally, characterize success with women as fate out of comfort. If it's their fault they can't get laid, that would make them lazy, incompetent, or both. Everybody is lazy and incompetent to some extent but most people are mentally strong enough to acknowledge it and don't need to pretend it doesn't exist out of comfort. Sometimes they also characterize it as fate as a way of rejecting the idea that the man who gets laid more is more powerful, instead of directly refuting the idea. They have little person syndrome and need to bring everybody else down to feel equal in worth. While incels will act in a way that makes most people not feel sorry for them (selfish, callous, violent, etc) I see them as mentally ill and in need of treatment
yes indeed those would be the internet communities known as Red Pill and ‘mgtow’ .. i.e. don’t worry it’s not your fault it’s societies fault, women’s fault, it’s the “system”, its feminists fault , its everyone else’s fault …
@John m in any field, it's difficult to accept that you suck, recognize that you need to take responsibility for your present moment, and that you are in control of what you do, that should grant you the power you need to move from where you are to where you wanna be
@@Black-Circle don’t be foolish. Rejection is a part of any skill or endeavor. most successful people encountered a lot of rejection when they started. Stephen king was once rejected by 30 publishers. JayZ was rejected by a ton of Labels early on. successful people don’t “make things work every single time” that’s stupid. game is the art of handling rejection and consistently getting better at interaction until you skew the ratio in your favor .
Todd, subbed your channel for long time. You still giving out great words and wisdom,even in this age where lots of everyone on youtube trying to be pickup artist and female nature guru by talking aggressively and dissing other channel, you still manage to be calm and collected. Thank you
Me having a girlfriend rn is a prime example of game working. I wouldn't have been able to do it without the system. Not even capping, I was fucking terrible. Game at helped me slowly but surely and if me and my girlfriend were to break up rn, I wouldn't have an existential crisis because I would have a logical guideline leading me close to the right way to communicate with women. Deny game as much as you want, that's more opportunities for us to connect with the women that you would've
@@darkblade47kv it's honestly amazing. I got it the week it came out a couple years ago (the system). I was intermediate (still am) when I got it and it still helped me out a fuck ton. I highly recommend it for cold approach especially.
The point that really hit home was about implementing just a little bit of game at a time. I've definitely been thinking too much about lots of different things to try to remember, instead of doing instinct + 1. I feel kinda dumb, since the principle is exactly the same as in lifting. You don't start by adding all the 20 kg plates in the gym, you start small and gradually increase. So from now on: instinct + 1, until it becomes just instinct, then add the next plate.
Lots of helpful PUA literature, videos, and advice regarding 'Approach Anxiety' out there (including from Todd). You just gotta take the time to research it.
game is having a sense of humor, being able to smile and laugh in conversations, throwing banter, having a distinct accent or knowing a language she might like, using flirty body language while talking and being able to tease her.
For the longest time, I did not understand that game even existed. After learning through YT for a couple years now, I see female psychology in a completely different light and actually sometimes cringe at the thoughts I had at 16. What's actually incredible about this, most people go out partying and have average game at best. So I don't agree with the attraction argument, because I've seen way fatter and shorter dudes than the average guy get amazing results due to just natural wittiness. So in conclusion, game definetly does work.
I stopped with gaming around 7 years ago, because there was so much unethical behaviour and narcissism in game, and focused more on inner game and the quality of my life. It has worked out, but I am so glad you are having success, Todd. Greatest source on game that I have come across recently! Keep up the good work.
@@jose.brother Manipulation with malicious intent, gaming to inflate ego's, not respecting implicit and explicit boundaries, abuse of power, loss of human dignity and values because of an obsession with game, financial malpractice and scamming of young people who want to desperately learn game, etc, etc.
@@ThePathOfEudaimonia That has nothing to do with pickup itself, that's the fault of the teachers. I can say pickup can be a shady business cuz it's so easy to be an "expert." But real pickup has always been about having healthy but effective interactions. You might have just been on the wrong side of pickup.
@@rubenjr4908 You are misreading or misinterpreting my comments. I am not saying there is anything wrong with game, if it is done ethically (eg. Todd). There was something wrong with (a large part of) the community then, which I was unable to ignore.
My problem is I find the game in general frustrating and overly difficult,when both genders want the same thing at the end of the day. It frustrating to have to constantly be doing something that's not fun or yields results more often than not when I have so many other thing that I need to be doing even as a prerequisite... It frankly makes me upset at women on top of the fact that idk how to trust them anymore now that I know slot more about the game
Read The Rationale Male by Rollo Tomassi, I think you'll find it both enlightening and aware of the new opportunities now presented to you with this new lens.
It's a "numbers game" the same way Poker is a number game. Like there's always going to be random elements out of your control, but with the proper strategy you can greatly increase the odds in your favor 💪
Something that I have come across as an obstacle in cold approach is that girls tend to be antagonistic, dismissive, and condescending. It's hard to actually get through to the girl and get her attention and interest in order to portray my personality.
I mean that's relative. Are all women you approach like that? Is your game causing that? There's a lot of factors in play. It might just be that you are improving and women are now seeing you as an actual sexual threat now. And now that they actually see you as a "man with a d" they are giving you honest feedback. It can be a lot of things.
@@rubenjr4908 You are right. I have no clue what it is. I have the suspicion that part of it is a reflection of the general attitude that women from where I am from have. I think Bulgarian women tend to think really highly of themselves.
I think that the process of learning game generally doesn't work because a) it's very hard to practice isolated skills, and b) there is no difficulty progression in the sets you encounter. If you were learning to play basketball, you could practice free throws every day for hours. Imagine if you could only throw them during an actual match. And when you're a beginner, you play against people who are as bad as you are, and so you have a decent chance of winning even though you suck. Imagine if every match you got a random opponent from all possible teams. Both objections are to a certain extent circumventable. You could practice specific routines in front of the mirror (or "game the wall"). You could choose a specific thing and practice it in every set, even if it doesn't bring you the best results. You could redefine what a "win" is so that there is some sort of escalating difficulty curve. But, on a fundamental level, the learning process is flawed. That's what makes game so hard, at least for me. It's a chaotic free-for-all where, as a beginner, all you get are bad responses. Instead of a difficulty ladder, it sometimes look as a single gigantic difficulty step.
It's hard at the beggining but in the beggining you're much more prone to have sex, because of your natural sense with woman, as well it's much more easy to screw up
I completely agree with that. Has been my case for years. But I just met someone for whom it's clear, and whose able to find the more importants elements to work on, and how to implement them. It makes all the differences. And it's not about one coaching, it's about consistent feedbacks from him, until you understand the logic.
@@DjTic64 totally true. But the person in front of the coach should be able to listen him. I personally mastered game after 12 years, there's absolutely nothing that I couldn't know. Not even RSD give me so much info like before. Still though I admire Todd and it helped me in stuff that maybe I wouldn't never know by myself and beyond it's good to see the other person's perspective HOWEVER there's not many types of game like others say. There's maybe two in a very simplistic way to say: chase or being chased. All others paths should lead to the same BECAUSE even old game like Mr. Mystery it's exactly what modern coaches are providing but in a less technical and more efficient way. I approve every Todd's video HE IS IN THE RIGHT PATH. I only disagree with maybe two of his choices in perspective: 1.online dating and 2. Some approaches to woman(hoewever he makes it in a very sophisticated ways sometimes and he knows how to reframe a situation) but I respect the guy, because he don't lie he gets to the point he's direct and the videos are very helpful. There's actually much more advanced stuff that coaches don't tell you, but the reason they don't tell you is bc you need to master the basics and intermediate level of game very well. So he would insist and insist. This is why sometimes it looks like they're saying the same thing But they're not. Do as they say. Literally. *And observe his interactions with woman in the night club videos, if you understand well there's advanced game there *The power of reframing*
That's why I love and advocate for the system above other pickup styles. Because there is a predictable and obvious progression system like in your basketball example. From begginer to advanced you know exactly what you need to work on and how it all fits together.
You are the man. Although my first comment was not approval. Now I'm learning. Greetings from Poland. U have to come to Gdansk one day. Waldemar Wagner Gdynia. Vidomir
If you have no game, you will not be able to proactively choose the girls you want and pretty much every girl you get will be through luck or some other factor that has nothing to do with you.
It's so sad that Todd has to actually make this video in order to explain away all the feminist propaganda telling young men that "game is lame" nowadays. I feel sorry for Gen Z.
True. By this [feminist propaganda] weak men are sorted out (with some collateral damage, maybe). I believe, this is nothing new. In the old days, let's say, in the ancient times, weak men were killed in fights, in battles, were enslaved, put in prisons [to die], put in galleys or in monasteries, etc.. Only the strong and or confident got women. Today these men are the incels. It just looks different. Nothing new under the sun.
Game is just as manipulative as preparing for a job interview. When you prepare for a job interview you are learning stuff about the company, thinking about what they may ask and coming up with answers all to get someone to hire you. Game is exactly the same thing. You prepare things to say and learn how to act in order for the woman to get attracted to you. Women wear make-up - Society doesn't condemn that as manipulating the guy into dating someone that looks completely different.
The only thing that falls outside of game is your actual body. Everything else you can modify. How you talk, how you move, the status you communicate with your attire and how you carry yourself. That's all game.
@@ToddVDating Technically true. But ideally we'd like to see newbies get in shape AFTER they understand how irrelevant it is, so their confidence is based on their internals and their Game, not their externals.
@@stealth797 You're slightly mis-interpreting looks. Even owen has said looks matter. But they only dont matter after a certain level of game. And by looks I mean your style, hygiene, etc. But I still agree that newbies need to approach without looks, as I can testify to how effective that is for self confidence.
@@rubenjr4908 I pretty much agree. IMO newbies who are learning to socialize and pick up girls should be focusing on their game and being infield approaching. If they can squeeze in a workout, cool, but nowadays SO many guys in the modern PUA community (I know Todd's not one of them) are elevating looks above other tools in the game toolbox and just feeding them what they want to hear ie - “I can do this solo thing that doesn’t involve putting myself in social situations because those are scary, and it’ll get me laid because it’s almost as good as having game and that game stuff is scary and involves getting too far out of my comfort zone, now lemme put my headphones on cause I’m not gonna talk to these girls in my gym this is my sanctuary brah when I get down to 11.235% bodyfat THEN I’ll start talking to girls cuz they’ll all wanna fuck me according to what I read on the internet about looks!”
Lead generation , purposeful closing, motivating you to improve your value , and the open,hook,vibe close or get in state in loud clubs are some of the things in game that clearly seem to work.
Todd V-open, hook, vibe, close VS mysterie's open, attract, build comfort seduce. open(it's the same in both systems and really it doesn't matter what you say as long as it's not super weird, as long as you do it with confidence and assumed attraction and rapport. Then move things forward. The only difference is I don't think you should go direct whereas Todd V tends to do that because I think you need to attract the girl first and give her space to like you so she doesn't have to make a decision right away. Plus I think it shows your higher value when you wait to see if she's what you want with qualifying questions after she shows interest, before you show interest, Todd V might say it makes the interaction man to woman and non friend interaction but I think that the interactions should be an interaction between two new friends till you decide whether you're interested in her and then you can show intent through physical escalation without running the risk of her thinking that you're only going after her for Her looks, before you showing her that you like her personality), attract(you do need to hook the girl and see indicators of interest then qualify Her with questions based on your interests, hobbies, values ECT), build report/comfort(vibings sounds better because it sounds more chill and flirty and you do need to flirt while you're getting to know the girl and build a fun connection), seduce(close sounds better because people think seducing a girl's manipulative but at this stage you should just go for and if she says no back off. Or find out why she's not ready and answer her concerns.A lot of times it's not you, she just needs more time and that means that you didn't build enough comfort. that's why I prefer the word comfort because vibing just sounds like you're enjoying each other's time but not building rapport and a connection but that's also why I like the word vibing because I think you also need to enjoy each other's time while you're doing comfort. And the way you do that is by flirting, being funny, having fun enjoying yourself ,encouraging her to enjoy yourself. Where to go on adventures with you.
This is why "small chunking it" so so important. Like with ANY skill you practice it one piece at a time. For example the next week I'm going to focus on 'misdirection'. In every set 'misdirection' is going to be my main focus. like I'm still gonna try and go for the pull and all that, but I'm only gonna judge myself on how well I did on using the 'misdirection' technique. The goal is to get so good at each facet of Pickup that it comes naturally to you where you're not consciously thinking about it. Remember the 4 stages go: 1) unconscious incompetence 2) conscious incompetence 3) conscious competence 4) unconscious competence
We are introverts, so whether we like it or not, cold approaches are our only option! This is sort of a catch 22 because we are not very sociable, yet we have to do the most extroverted thing in single-handedly approaching women! 🤯
You definitely are a great mentor on this field! As being English my second language I found that I lack some references either culturally or from the language itself or internal jokes that only American understand and get it. Do you have any advice on that? How do you deal when a client of yours is from another country ? Thank you!
Todd absolutely is! Love his content, watched it for years. just putting in my two cents here, but I think your cultural difference could actually help you my man. Use it to your advantage, it makes you unique and also great for conversation material. And be authentic about your lack of understanding american/english culture. (authenticity overall is very attractive) Depending on the situation and how invested she is, I believe more than likely she will be happy to explain those references in the convo. Hope this helps!
@@jaimerestrepo8321 Bill Burr, Tom segura, Kevin Hart, Milton Jones, ect.. are all great ones to watch. However rather than studying so hard on their material (Jokes and actual words), focus on their demeanor and delivery. (vibe they give off) I would say do research and find a comedian that you resonate with and genuinely find funny as hell lol This is really gonna help with adding that humorous element into your interactions. Self amusement is key in the interaction 🔑
@@tytheguide1675 definitely I've been implementing storytelling from Kevin hart i just love the way he pictures the whole scene so I try to get some of those tricks into my stories. Thank you for the advice and the help, wish you the best.👊
Hey Todd, what some people are saying is when you approach a girl she either finds you attractive or she doesn’t. No game will change this, so forget all the game pua techniques since it’s all just a numbers game. I don’t buy into this, but I keep seeing this argument over and over again online. You may want to cover this in your follow up video. Sounds like guys trying to justify why they don’t have good game and shouldn’t try to improve.
_Hey Fr.Todd, what some people are saying is when you approach God, he either finds you acceptable or he doesn’t. No amount of good works will change this, so forget all the Catholic teachings since it’s all just a numbers game._ _I don’t buy into this, but I keep seeing this argument over and over again online. You may want to cover this in your follow up video._ _Sounds like guys trying to justify why they don’t have good work ethic and shouldn’t try to improve._ (From Wiki: Justificatio sola fide (or simply sola fide), meaning justification by faith alone, is a Christian theological doctrine commonly held to distinguish the Reformed and Lutheran traditions of Protestantism, among others, from the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches) You PUA ppl are hilarious
IT IS a numbers game!! No matter how much you improve you'll ALWAYS get blow outs ALWAYS The thing is, the better you get the more you'll convey Value before the girl rejects you so that's cool
Hey Todd, hope you're enjoying your day. My question for you is how do you improve your verbal game if English is your second language? I've lived in the Netherlands for a few years and I find it difficult to break past the 7-8 barrier, whereas when I go on vacation to my home country I have 9s and 10s asking me out. In my mother tongue, I find it effortless to tease, joke, banter, have good vocal tonality, etc. (it also helps that I know the culture and what the ladies respond to there) but here in NL there is both a language and a culture barrier. Thank you for all your good work and best of luck!
For my homies in the comments who think they're unattractive consider this: unless you're gay you don't know what an attractive man looks like because you don't find men attractive. Take it from a very goofy looking, average height guy who still has decent enough cold approach to get laid.
Sad you had to make this video. But I get why. There are new generations coming up without the weekly knowledge bombs and infield footage we got. Such a pity it was taken down. I never had the money for any programs but the free RUclips content was sooooo amazing that if you got stuck in and picked up on all the nuances you could help yourself become a pretty good ladies man.
The whole reason I took the time to study game is for the sales skills, and while I haven't really put the woman side into practice it's a nice benefit to have an understanding of where I might be messing up when I do start making an effort into finding someone to have a relationship with.
Todd something that's hard to grasp is the "value" of a man. I think part of what makes a man valuable is his attention, being in the moment, his fun, charm, masculine presence, wit, intelligence, confidence, so on. But it's a really big concept that when we try to implement, it's hard to do if you never got used to people saying you're so amazing or other. Another thing, which is kind of tied in, is how anxious it can make us guys to cold approach. That can ruin our days and we may not even approach in the first place, or be frustrated after dozens of approaches.
I think he's right. At 25 I'm a Virgin. I don't think I'm super model looking but I know for a fact that I'm decent looking. I have been told so by people of all ages and gender. I'm able to get girls attention but don't know wat to do with it (in the moment). To make it worse I work and study from home and stay in all day. Infact last I tried talked to a girl (romantically that is) was couple years ago at a social gathering. Lookin back I realized that she was DTF but I was too much of a chode.
i can tell you i was there for some time because on how i was raised as a child, a good thing that helped was just go on walks to the mall, park, go watch your local games, etc and speak to randoms, first could be ask for the time, then after some time, you could even have a convo with 10 people in 1 day like it's nothing and from there, going to places & talking to random Girls is a breeze
@@edgaral tnks ya it does help. I was talking to atleast a couple strangers for time and stuff during morning walks. Then lock down hit and momentum was gone. Now I find it hard to get out of the house for no reason. But I know if I push myself for like a week it will get easier.
the “just be on your purpose” and “just be high SMV” and the women will follow crowd doesn’t get is that there is always going to be men of equal or higher purpose/SMV than you. No matter how high I’m the totem pole you think you are. Especially if you live in large cities, male competition is fierce there are MANY men who are “on their purpose” and have “smv”. There is nothing particularly special about it to women. …. what makes the difference? doing those things *and* GAME.
Exactly. Taking on challenging goals in training, sport, business, hobby, career, education and having a higher purpose can be super important for men. But learning that stuff doesn”t produce the same development that a girl laughing in their face or guys AMOG’ing them produces. Because, as a former nightclub promoter, almost every time I would take guys who are successful in other areas (business, hobbies, career, education, whatever), and put a hot girl in front of them, they would chode out and freeze up. Because they’re learning situational confidence and only a few of the subcomms that actually relate to interacting with and seducing women. Hitting the field DIRECTLY forces men to develop subcomms (Game) that relate to interacting with and seducing women.
What you said makes perfect sense! I find what works best is just being in the moment..completely natural conversation..spur of the moment..add a little humor..maybe a “ one- liner” ,,get them to laugh..it’s important..My major problem is I can’t close the deal...I always just got scared to ask for their number..and I fucking hate it bc I’m always alone..no girls at all...🦁🦁☘️☘️😞😞✌️✌️
Todd! Love your work brother. One point I differ on you with. Robert Greene in the Art of Seduction said that we must leave morals at the door. Seduction is a battle and anything goes. Plus, some women in particular are dying for the ups and downs a good seduction can bring her.
Here's one that I've heard: Game DOES work... IN THE BEGINNING, but you can't keep the girl, because even if you can "fake" the signals to convey high value, you're not gonna be able to fake them all along the relationship with the girl.
If you think game is about "faking" being high value then you misunderstand it. Game has always been about eventually becoming high value through practice and experience. Don't cap.
Purposely commenting before I’ve finished @13:49 because I think Todd’s pretty smart and may address it but so far it seems like, sure game can work when done right and on some level the circumstances it’s done under matter and better circumstances/ higher value help scale. But this just seems like a neutral statement that applies to arguments against it as well. If someone builds a life they are very proud of and has some socially perceived indicators of success then, under the right circumstances they could achieve the same results. The average person (maybe not extreme cases) who enjoys certain hobbies or activities that will position them in spaces where people they are attracted to are and fall into the ‘life they are proud of’ category will probably do just as well as the person more reliant on game = conveying value which they have less of. You can do simple things to convey value that don’t even require speaking. The way you dress, the environments you are in, people you are around, how you spend your time, etc. then even when you do communicate verbally you just share your honest truth about the life you are proud of and that conveys value inherently. I think, the real argument against committing so much time to game is that, at the end of the time commitment...if you don’t achieve the social results you want will you still be happy? Vs If you commit that time to building a life you are proud of and don’t get the social results will you still be happy? Even if the answer is no on both, at least you have something you are proud of in the latter and at least you have the resources all the internet coaches will ask for so that you can get quality help. If you spend the same time any coach did on game and it isn’t making you money you are going to regret that. TL:dr game is nice to learn but don’t prioritize it > building a life you are proud of. Spend your time wisely.
Everyone makes excuses based on their view of the world for why success/failure happens. The short or tall guy thinks it’s a height thing, the ugly or perfect face guy thinks it’s a facial aesthetics thing, the poor or rich guy thinks it’s a money thing, etc etc And if the short guy could grow a few feet and still wasn’t getting laid he would say “oh it must be a facial/money” thing depending on what he doesn’t have. It’s an endless cycle because they don’t really understand how attraction works. And a lot of guys put on a front that they’re confident, or come across confident when you talk to them at the gym or in the boardroom, etc. But put their perfect hot girl in front of them and tell them to approach her and see how many of those guys can translate that confidence to macking her and how many chode out and drop the ball as their internals fall apart, even if you introduce the girl TO him. I don’t even listen to guys (good-looking or ugly) talking about what pimps they are or how they’re going to go fuck some sluts tonight bla bla during a pregame when I meet new dudes. I just wait till we’re in the field and see how that confidence actually holds up, and throw girls at them, poke at their frames a bit in front of the girls, etc to see what they do and find out who ACTUALLY has a strong frame and who was full of shit. The VASSSST majority of the time the guys (no matter how good looking or successful) are full of shit. You don’t get better at seducing women by hitting the gym or making money. You get better at seducing women by seducing women.
Hey Todd! Epic video. I’m very impressed with the quality. I feel like you hired a professional even for the background and setting to look just right. Not in an obvious set up way, but after a few minutes in, I was like hang on, this is spot on. Haha. Also how you weren’t polarising in a negative way. For instance as Mother Teresa would say, you can’t be anti-war, you have to be pro peace. I feel like you conveyed game to someone who may be triggered by it, excellently, while also, allowing me to realise, yea, it’s ok, despite the climate, this is the truth I need to follow, I can trust it again, despite the climate of people removing such advice and inspirations. Some great other points too.
When it comes to medium size cities up to 500.000 population, how do you make game work best, as in this case, you end up meeting people you met before, or some people heard of you. Or in my case, game a girl which then tells one of her girls about the experience just to find out that I have spoken to her as well. This is one of my only impressions about game that it doesn't work. Would be nice to hear your take in this. Although you did mention in the video that game works best in the big cities, but still how should one adapt in a middle size city?
“Leave women better than you found them.” Gospel. Thank you Todd. 🙏 However, I would take it a step further and say leave people in general, better than you found them.
Hey Todd, Im getting girls to agree to go on dates with me and such but the problem now is actually finding a time and day that works for both of us (due to work and sports) what do you suggest for this?
Are you sure they are really having no time to go out with you? Not trying to insult you in any meaning but maybe you just don’t convey enough value to girls🤷🏻
This is a logistical problem. The best logistics are same day lays. Aside from that, anything short of screening for girls with better logistics or creating better logistics for yourself is going to require you to sacrifice your work or sports. Someone said better value can help, but that only goes so far.
@@rubenjr4908 I seeee, I can always increase my value as a man and will continue to work on that, as you say though i may just have to find girls who suit my schedule!
Hey Todd great video! Here’s another. In 2021, many people say that we should stop “bothering” women by approaching them and just leave them to their business when they’re already doing something, like waiting for coffee or walking somewhere. This has especially been spurred on by the feminist movement who say that men that are strangers who approach women are potentially dangerous to those women. With that message potentially becoming more popular, what would you say to those that say game doesn’t work because women are bothered or even afraid being approached? Looking forward to your response! Also to anyone reading I’m not saying feminism is bad or anything, I’m just saying this is a topic they’ve been exploring
If you want to improve or just maintain a decent level of game you have to constantly be working on it. A girlfriend will slow down your progress. That’s why in my opinion the goal is not to find a girlfriend but to become more confident and meet (have sex with) as many girls as possible. That way you’ll always be improving your game.
The goal is to thrive. For some people that means finding a high quality girlfriend. For others it's to have sex with many women. But in order to reach those goals, we need to improve our processes. Game is the process and the way, both internal and external.
But then you stop improving your game. You’ll have to start from scratch when you eventually move on. The problem with having a girlfriend is not only that your game deteriorates because you’re no longer approaching and interacting with other girls but your confidence also is affected and in most cases you also stop working out since you’re no longer exposing yourself to other girls.
@@JoaoMassot My personal experience is the complete opposite of this. But my initial point was that game shouldn't be the goal. It is the process, or the skillset to reach your goals more efficiently. It is the "Path", not the "Destination".
@@JoaoMassot Then you're using game as a crutch because you're lacking innergame skills. The idea that your game deteriorates is only partially true, but it doesnt dramatically deteriorate. Just like riding a bike doesnt go away. You only have to relearn from scratch if you dont internalize the lessons learned, and that is from a lack of innergame. You can maintain game and have a gf at the same time.
this cute girl who worked at subway asked me if i had plans when we were talking while she was making my sub, and for some reason i didnt ask for her number, and i havent seen her yet since when i go there. wish i was thinking about picking her up bc i was just waiting for the sub and didnt even cross my mind since i dont go out much
I couldn't agree more with it all. I do mean all. I do NOT sell game courses like you ha ha, yet I always mention your points in discussing this topic. One unmentioned, is that most guys dislike rejection too much and use cynism and "it doesn't work" as coping mechanism for their bruised egos. Or blame women in general for not thinking like... men. I've been in sales and the similarities are near complete. I started that career thinking sales was scummy and all that before I was in the business. Of course many salespeople ARE scummy, but it's got nothing to do with the skillsets, but with the motives or bad they are at it... like game. I recall cringing at the "influence" part of the super famous How to Win Friends and Influence People book. But I realized reading it it's "influence", not "manipulate"! Big difference. And when you are bad at game or social skills or whatever, you still use it anyway... but get bad results. Game works, I know ha ha.
6 Minutes into this video and it is highly objective and profound. If you took a basketball ball team with forwards, point guards, ect and each one of your players represented one facet of your game you need to bring out the best performance of each player. So physicality may be your forward scorer, while style may be your point guard. Your team needs to always be practicing and posting points in every area of game. Do that and you will win way more than you lose. So with that said KOBE and Jordan would be what part of your game and what in game is the most important part though all parts are important. 1 star like Jordan or Kobe can win you a ton of games. What part of game can get you the most consistent wins? I would imagine you need to be strong at the minimum 2 categories as a passer and shooter. So for Kobe and Shaq what elements of game would they be? Please chime in.
Completely agree with all youre saying. But the whole value story seems too serious to me. For me what worked best is when I just stopped giving a fk about life and just started having fun, sometimes even being reckless. Thats not really showing value, but it did work in attracting women.
lol it cant seem to serious when were just trying to be happy in life but its still a very valid model for example; You were conveying your value as a fun, entertaining guy when you stopped giving a fuck and focused on fun. People saw you and thought, "hey that guy is really enjoying himself and loving life, I want a piece of that action too let me get to know him better"
I don't do any of this garbage line crap. I show up to a bar late at night, around 11:30 to 1am, usually by myself, order a drink relatively near some people, and a lot of times girls will approach me. Works at least 50% of the time. No effort. The fact I'm by myself and there isn't a friend for them to feel nervous around is all they need to approach. Doesn't hurt the way I look, but that's all planned with my long hair, working out, style, etc. I've worked on that. Honestly I like going by myself more. Don't have to deal with jealous friends, or try to help them, I don't have to feel bad, etc. My success rate is tremendous by myself, not great with friends due to the previously mentioned reasons.
The game is like theoretical material and inspiration, for those who do not understand at all how to behave with women. What's important to them and what's hooking them. Well, at least that's what I can deduce from the RUclips videos.
Game is just social aptitude. It does work given you meet certain threshholds. Just like practicing basketball will make you a better basketball player, but a guy who is 5 feet tall will never be a great basketball player whereas a guy who is 6'10 has a much higher chance.
i think a big part of game, or the reason guys are bad at game is because they cant handle the brutal competition. they are decent with a girl one on one, but as soon as another guy with more confidence shows up they melt away. that feeling is so painful that they give up entirely or settle for an ugly girlfriend.
This is not a question related to Game but: can you give an example of how you'd pitch a product? I really do believe that you're a fantastic salesman!
Isn’t game basically the art of being interesting and entertaining in a dynamic way, which is attractive? If yes, then of course game works, according to a man’s skill with it.
yes but its very specific also with certain techniques that a lot of guys wouldnt learn from experience (or it would take them a long time). for example sexual escalation is something a lot of guys are bad at even if they are interesting and entertaining. game teaches how to avoid resistance and landmines and to do it as quickly as possible instead of going on 5 dates first.
A lot of game is a description of intuitive actions. If you don't have those intuitions, you need to learn them. If you don't, you will stay where you are.
I agree game is essential. And I learned this in an interesting way. For me, I never had more and better game than the 4-5 years I was in a touring punk rock band in my late 20s. My guitar player, drummer and I used to keep little lists so we didn't all sleep with the same girls. (although that certainly happened). But after that I grew up a bit, had a kid with my ex-wife and it was like a cold shower. I came to figure out what the girls liked was not us per se, but the status that came with being the center of attention (i.e. high value - in a successful band/musician). The "bad boy" aesthetic also helped (punky look, hair, clothes, edgy etc..) plus being in our physical prime. However,...Now that I am older, a dad, and divorced, I am trying to get back into the dating scene but it's very difficult. ESPECIALLY now that many of the cute girls are married off, and staying in shape is HARD after 30, game becomes ESSENTIAL. So even if you are naturally beautiful, wealthy, or naturally super interesting (I am *none of those* , trust and believe, my game was always my intellect and being charming) do yourself a BIG favor and learn at least some of what he is teaching. You might just find yourself at 37 and looking for a hot 25 year old to parade in front of your ex wife as a big middle finger. LOL Or like me, you may just miss that feminine energy in your life and having lots of ass. So learn this man's techniques. I also STRONGLY recommend reading The Rational Male by Rolo Tomassi. Absolutely crucial info in that book, (although the author takes a dim view on modern women which I don't necessarily share 100%.)
Game isn’t manipulative it’s having superior social skills and being your best self. Anything can be used for bad purposes. Getting good builds confidence and self-esteem and it’s self development.
What are your thoughts on the BEST places/situations to practice game infield? I've heard that crowded places are best for practice especially for beginners because you can just disappear into the crowd if the set goes bad and move on to the next one. But, for people who don't have access to crowded spots, what areas would you say are decent/better alternatives?
Hey, I hope you enjoy the video and I hope it answers a lot of your questions about game. Also, if you have other questions about the overall nature or efficacy of game, please don't hesitate to write them below... I'm more than happy to do a follow-up video if there are good questions/comments. Finally, we don't generally do long infield breakdowns on RUclips these days, but the infield for the thumbnail can be found in full here: systembytodd.com/ or a shorter version can be found for free here: www.toddvdating.com/vault
Damn!!!!
I missed that infield from JP
Hey its off topic but I have a question. You’ve talked about it before years ago about how to game differently between europe and america. I travel quite a bit and I’d actually be interested in a video like that but every region. Esp asia australia and places like dubai. Thanks
If you are in a speed dating scenario, where you are meeting 20 people and you are capped at 1-2 minutes interactions, what should you convey?
Great videoTodd as always.
How does one start from scratch. Out again after the lockdown. Let’s say no social circle, what’s the blueprint? To go out approach girls and date them?
@@By.daniieel that guy is just too smooth
"Game is about conveying whatever you have in the best possible light." I like it.
Like the OGs said: what's creepier than learning game? Not learning game.
girls reward good game, good game works
@@rubenjr4908 Exactly. Pickup isn't based in “theory”. It’s based in practice and experience. If back in the oldschool days Mystery found that Negs don’t work or Juggler found that it was better to tell all about yourself right away, that’s what the PUA teachings would reflect. All we care about is what consistently works in real life.
@Marsonic TRUE!
@Marsonic There's some truth to that. But you'd be surprised what a little charm can do for you. Especially if you work out and don't look like a troll.
learning social circle game is way easier and way less creepy lol
Man I'm so grateful for all the incredibly valuable content Todd puts out. When I started game I was so sceptic, and also a virgin at 21, had not even kissed. Now with 23 I have such a great dating life. This week I had a date with my personal 10, a girl that my past self would have been looking at from the distance, thinking how I'd never have someone like that. The date went amazing, thej girl was chasing me HARD, and I was able to pull. And the best part is, as good as the girl is (and she was holy shit), I don't feel like I need her, I have abundance, if anything were to happen that would be okay, it's not hard for me to get a girl of that caliber again, and I'd say that all of this is mostly thanks to Todd, yes I also learned from other PUAs such as mystery, but game didn't really click for me until I saw Todds content, extremely nuanced explanations, that's when it all made sense. Thank you Todd!! You changed my life completely.
@Instant_Gaming honestly I think I’ve watched every single Todd video multiple times lol. Both in his main channel and his other channel (and even that channel that uploads his old rsd videos) and I found every single one of them extremely useful. however, if you want something concrete that I’d say is the best content by Todd it would be the system. There you’ll find everything you need, and the infields there are also god tier and are shown from start to finish, pretty much all the content from the system is just amazing. I’ve been following that model and I’d say I went from virgin to advanced in a couple of months, now I can pull almost everytime I go on a date, like 80-90%.
I just realized this is so positive it sounds like shilling but it’s not, this is coming from my own experience, game works like black magic you guys.
@Instant_Gaming also, I’d say that the reason I got so good so fast might because I’m naturally good socially already, like I never had any issues making male friends or being funny, and even charismatic sometimes in social gatherings. It’s just that went it came to girls I just had no idea what to do, how to spark attraction, how to show her that I liked her without just literally saying out of nowhere like an anime confession lol, i did that twice and the girls rejected men and I was literally traumatized. I think that the most genius thing Todd ever came up with was the concept of Premise as opposed to showing intent, from the moment I understood that my success skyrocketed, it’s not comparable, telling the girl the reason you are talking is for a sexual relationship without giving away your power, so fucking smart. And it’s probably something no other guys does, whenever I see another guy trying to show intent is just hilarious, really once you have good game the difference with other guys is so big you can’t help but laugh and also feel a little bit bad for them.
@Instant_Gaming watch 10 videos of the most important thing that hurts of game from various coaches and execute on the solution. What he watched for his level wont help you in your level
what a load of bullshit, as if cold approach works
@@loudybullet5262 it does work...I've followed their advice and got laid multiple times. What's my incentive to lie to you? None
dude say what you want about todd
the guy is fucking good
most PUA's channels have turned into self help bullshit
Todd not only keeps talking about what he trully enjoys, but he keeps finding new things to talk about, with clear presentation .
Great video brother
Agree, I always since genuine integrity with Todd. Don’t over do game. I am working on incorporating it just when I’m out snd about at a store concerts and regular life. I am not going to clubs every night like I was, but will go here and there. I feel more rested cause life is busy for us as adults. It’s more efficient for me. But Again, I since integrity’s and he is straight up from his experience.
Todd is a LEGEND!
I found rsd juliens stuff has helped
Pimp and shift
Havnt tried there new stuff tho
game is as important as everything else but yea Todd is great
Agreed but Julian’s self help does work IMO
It always comes down to confidence and being comfortable around women.
Not really, it's just asking the right question and say something funny here and there, that really works
@@chadbest5411 no it isn't
You’re talking about charisma. It’s all about confidence and charisma.
Partly true - if you come across as anxious then this will transmit to her. But an unattractive guy who is very confident will just come across to a girl as delusional
@@caleb_gonsalves yep, not this "game" horseshit
This is an extremely brilliant video that summarizes and deals with all misconceptions about game in one take. One of the best of Todd V of the last 20 years in my opinion
I am disabled and Brooke. But because of game I have my pick of women. Because of your videos. Thank you Todd v
Does your game involve your credit card
Lol how did that happen?
@@chadbest5411 he's disabled bro. Give him a break. It could of been difficult...
who is brooke?
Who said I don’t get no bitches ?
Got em 😆🤦♂️
Your video editor needs to definitely get a promotion. This man is hustling.
11:00 - Exactly what has worked for me. I was way overanalyzing all of my interactions, so I originally just took a break from game altogether...but obviously the knowledge is still there, and I realized I can have mostly “normal” interactions and sprinkle in some game if the moment is right. It’s a little more subtle and I don’t feel like I need to force anything.
From what I can tell, that's the subtle distinction between intermediate in game and truly attractive advanced people in game.
Once you adopt some of the behaviours and game becomes instinctual it gets much easier.
Exactly. Game has to be natural and instictual or it feels forced and the women will back away.
Oh God, I went on an instadate with this cute camp counselor I cold approached at a Barnes and Nobles. She asked what my passion was... and I could ONLY think of social dynamics (ie. learning to be present in the moment, self-improvement as a whole, etc). Todd is so fucking spot-on lol. I've been obsessive with game for literally a year now. I have no other hobbies
The good news is that once you get hobbies again, you'll STILL have game skills. Just find balance and you'll be all set.
@ilum88 Are you playing professionally? Do you have an Instagram where you post your strategies about that game? Do you play other games and have a group of friends you play with? Do you go to game conventions? Develop a social life around video games, develop social skills, be proud of what you do and then start gaming. Also diversify your interests.
@ANLF88 If you only play video games in your basement, you may get women but lose them again. That will happen.
I made the same mistake in one of my first cold approaches; trying to validate the idea that as long as both parties are in agreement with the dynamics of the interaction, then it shouldn't be a frowned-upon measure for meeting women. I didn't get blown out nor did she hesitate to give me her number, but looking back, it was still WAY too much information- like validating your reeling method to a saltwater fish. My interaction was at a bookstore too, lol.
@FlyHigh Find a better hobby. There are 100 better things you could be doing.
Your work has changed my life. Whoever says it doesn't work hasn't tried hard enough or for long enough.
What’s really been working for me is disqualifications and having her evaluate herself to me almost within 30 seconds I’m like Todd v is a genius
Guys.
""Game"" is being an attractive and valuable person and being able to **CONVEY** said attractiveness and value to other people.
Will it get you everything you want 200% of the time? Of course not. But it will get you things more often then someone with no game.
Exactly, game can't get you every girl, but it sure as hell can get you every type of girl.
@@yardy88 Great advice.
I personally do cold approach on a regular basis and here are my thoughts on the controversirs of this subject:
1. Its works BUT! you cannot show that this is your lifestyle. You need to blend it with other areas of life coz otherwise people become suspicious
2. You cannot talk about it openly with people that don't understand it (99% of the population) - its a controversial subject and you are likely to lose friends, career etc if you confess that you do it
3. It can make you paranoid in social situations - you can become tpo focused on techniques and start suspecting that other people know about it too and the quality of your normal interactions will suffer
4. Understand the difference between game, cold approach, seduction and influencing. A lot of people who do daygame single sets call themselves seducers but all they do is spam approaching and getting number that flake. True results come when your see beyond just game, techniques and get the entire seduction process and learn how to apply it different areas/situations of your life
So in summary - just like with everything else in life, there are strings attached. Its best to follow guidance to avoid the common pitfalls
usually the 1st one, can be negated with an excuse that you were there for something else
I have a chronic pain disease (widespread pain, exhaustion, fizzyness and many other symptoms) and I am still able to game. No excuses.
how's your game going for you?
I stutter and I compensate for it with my confidence and game. Good job man
I also have a chronic fatigue, and still able to game too. But the result is very bad. I went to tinder date, and was so tired that my convo became boring and emotionless. How about u?
Wow man
I THOUGHT I had chronic fatigue once, but what I really had was a shitty sleep schedule and out-of-shape body. Try exercise my guy, worked miracles for my chronic pain and constant fatigue. Also coffee helps a lot.
The people that say game doesn't work are trying to avoid responsibility for them being incel. They need success with women to be fate so failure is justifiable instead of pathetic.
@John m I agree that it's not 100% game either and that it can be discouraging when you have to talk to 100 of them to find success. But when I say "incel" I'm not referring to the people who believe their decisions can affect outcome with women. That would make it voluntary. The incels are the ones that intentionally, often delusionally, characterize success with women as fate out of comfort. If it's their fault they can't get laid, that would make them lazy, incompetent, or both. Everybody is lazy and incompetent to some extent but most people are mentally strong enough to acknowledge it and don't need to pretend it doesn't exist out of comfort.
Sometimes they also characterize it as fate as a way of rejecting the idea that the man who gets laid more is more powerful, instead of directly refuting the idea. They have little person syndrome and need to bring everybody else down to feel equal in worth.
While incels will act in a way that makes most people not feel sorry for them (selfish, callous, violent, etc) I see them as mentally ill and in need of treatment
yes indeed those would be the internet communities known as Red Pill and ‘mgtow’ .. i.e. don’t worry it’s not your fault it’s societies fault, women’s fault, it’s the “system”, its feminists fault , its everyone else’s fault …
@John m in any field, it's difficult to accept that you suck, recognize that you need to take responsibility for your present moment, and that you are in control of what you do, that should grant you the power you need to move from where you are to where you wanna be
@John m any new skill or endeavor is daunting to beginners. that’s why they are called ‘beginners’ lol
@@Black-Circle don’t be foolish. Rejection is a part of any skill or endeavor. most successful people encountered a lot of rejection when they started. Stephen king was once rejected by 30 publishers. JayZ was rejected by a ton of
Labels early on. successful people don’t “make things work every single time” that’s stupid. game is the art of handling rejection and consistently getting better at interaction until you skew the ratio in your favor .
Todd, subbed your channel for long time. You still giving out great words and wisdom,even in this age where lots of everyone on youtube trying to be pickup artist and female nature guru by talking aggressively and dissing other channel, you still manage to be calm and collected. Thank you
Me having a girlfriend rn is a prime example of game working. I wouldn't have been able to do it without the system. Not even capping, I was fucking terrible. Game at helped me slowly but surely and if me and my girlfriend were to break up rn, I wouldn't have an existential crisis because I would have a logical guideline leading me close to the right way to communicate with women.
Deny game as much as you want, that's more opportunities for us to connect with the women that you would've
U have his course? Is it gud?
Awesome man
@@darkblade47kv it's honestly amazing. I got it the week it came out a couple years ago (the system).
I was intermediate (still am) when I got it and it still helped me out a fuck ton.
I highly recommend it for cold approach especially.
@@Nacho-zj6pw lol I thought you were my cousin for a second. We also call him nacho 😭❤️
@@survive678 appreciate the reply. Am considering getting and following it.
"Everything in excess in unhealthy"
Ancient greek wisdom quote:
"Μηδεν αγαν" (Miden agan)
Meaning "Nothing in excess"
Pes ta!!😆😎
oust vromiari :))
You are definitely correct my man. Game does work with practice and balance.
Most balanced talk I have heard in the PUA glad you debunking all the BS these 'coaches' spread.
Todd's logic is unassailable.
good word.
Hey Todd when is Verbal Game Academy coming out?
The point that really hit home was about implementing just a little bit of game at a time. I've definitely been thinking too much about lots of different things to try to remember, instead of doing instinct + 1.
I feel kinda dumb, since the principle is exactly the same as in lifting. You don't start by adding all the 20 kg plates in the gym, you start small and gradually increase. So from now on: instinct + 1, until it becomes just instinct, then add the next plate.
game doesnt work if you cant get yourself do to an approach. still working on it.
Its more like inner trauma than game itself
Exactly
Lots of helpful PUA literature, videos, and advice regarding 'Approach Anxiety' out there (including from Todd). You just gotta take the time to research it.
@@stealth797 appreciate it bro
Man this is top quality content ! Keep it up master
game is having a sense of humor, being able to smile and laugh in conversations, throwing banter, having a distinct accent or knowing a language she might like, using flirty body language while talking and being able to tease her.
Value is like the weight and muscular mass of a boxer, and game is like the technique and ability of the boxer
Brilliant as always
For the longest time, I did not understand that game even existed. After learning through YT for a couple years now, I see female psychology in a completely different light and actually sometimes cringe at the thoughts I had at 16. What's actually incredible about this, most people go out partying and have average game at best. So I don't agree with the attraction argument, because I've seen way fatter and shorter dudes than the average guy get amazing results due to just natural wittiness. So in conclusion, game definetly does work.
I stopped with gaming around 7 years ago, because there was so much unethical behaviour and narcissism in game, and focused more on inner game and the quality of my life. It has worked out, but I am so glad you are having success, Todd.
Greatest source on game that I have come across recently! Keep up the good work.
give example of this unethical behaviour. dont put everything in the same bag
@@jose.brother Manipulation with malicious intent, gaming to inflate ego's, not respecting implicit and explicit boundaries, abuse of power, loss of human dignity and values because of an obsession with game, financial malpractice and scamming of young people who want to desperately learn game, etc, etc.
@@ThePathOfEudaimonia That has nothing to do with pickup itself, that's the fault of the teachers. I can say pickup can be a shady business cuz it's so easy to be an "expert." But real pickup has always been about having healthy but effective interactions. You might have just been on the wrong side of pickup.
@@rubenjr4908 You are misreading or misinterpreting my comments. I am not saying there is anything wrong with game, if it is done ethically (eg. Todd). There was something wrong with (a large part of) the community then, which I was unable to ignore.
@@ThePathOfEudaimonia Then I agree.
My problem is I find the game in general frustrating and overly difficult,when both genders want the same thing at the end of the day. It frustrating to have to constantly be doing something that's not fun or yields results more often than not when I have so many other thing that I need to be doing even as a prerequisite... It frankly makes me upset at women on top of the fact that idk how to trust them anymore now that I know slot more about the game
Read The Rationale Male by Rollo Tomassi, I think you'll find it both enlightening and aware of the new opportunities now presented to you with this new lens.
Todd is really the true GOAT from the old RSD team, so glad he split off to do it himself
one of the best pure game guys in the field. thanks for your widsom Todd.
Cold approach changed my life. It is a numbers game to an extent yes, but as is business
It's a "numbers game" the same way Poker is a number game. Like there's always going to be random elements out of your control, but with the proper strategy you can greatly increase the odds in your favor 💪
Thanks For Continuing To Educate & Inspire This Generation & So On, Keep It Up Todd💯.
Something that I have come across as an obstacle in cold approach is that girls tend to be antagonistic, dismissive, and condescending. It's hard to actually get through to the girl and get her attention and interest in order to portray my personality.
I mean that's relative. Are all women you approach like that? Is your game causing that? There's a lot of factors in play. It might just be that you are improving and women are now seeing you as an actual sexual threat now. And now that they actually see you as a "man with a d" they are giving you honest feedback. It can be a lot of things.
@@rubenjr4908 You are right. I have no clue what it is. I have the suspicion that part of it is a reflection of the general attitude that women from where I am from have. I think Bulgarian women tend to think really highly of themselves.
I think that the process of learning game generally doesn't work because a) it's very hard to practice isolated skills, and b) there is no difficulty progression in the sets you encounter.
If you were learning to play basketball, you could practice free throws every day for hours. Imagine if you could only throw them during an actual match. And when you're a beginner, you play against people who are as bad as you are, and so you have a decent chance of winning even though you suck. Imagine if every match you got a random opponent from all possible teams.
Both objections are to a certain extent circumventable. You could practice specific routines in front of the mirror (or "game the wall"). You could choose a specific thing and practice it in every set, even if it doesn't bring you the best results. You could redefine what a "win" is so that there is some sort of escalating difficulty curve. But, on a fundamental level, the learning process is flawed.
That's what makes game so hard, at least for me. It's a chaotic free-for-all where, as a beginner, all you get are bad responses. Instead of a difficulty ladder, it sometimes look as a single gigantic difficulty step.
It's hard at the beggining but in the beggining you're much more prone to have sex, because of your natural sense with woman, as well it's much more easy to screw up
I completely agree with that. Has been my case for years. But I just met someone for whom it's clear, and whose able to find the more importants elements to work on, and how to implement them. It makes all the differences. And it's not about one coaching, it's about consistent feedbacks from him, until you understand the logic.
@@DjTic64 totally true. But the person in front of the coach should be able to listen him. I personally mastered game after 12 years, there's absolutely nothing that I couldn't know. Not even RSD give me so much info like before. Still though I admire Todd and it helped me in stuff that maybe I wouldn't never know by myself and beyond it's good to see the other person's perspective HOWEVER there's not many types of game like others say. There's maybe two in a very simplistic way to say: chase or being chased. All others paths should lead to the same BECAUSE even old game like Mr. Mystery it's exactly what modern coaches are providing but in a less technical and more efficient way. I approve every Todd's video HE IS IN THE RIGHT PATH. I only disagree with maybe two of his choices in perspective: 1.online dating and 2. Some approaches to woman(hoewever he makes it in a very sophisticated ways sometimes and he knows how to reframe a situation) but I respect the guy, because he don't lie he gets to the point he's direct and the videos are very helpful.
There's actually much more advanced stuff that coaches don't tell you, but the reason they don't tell you is bc you need to master the basics and intermediate level of game very well. So he would insist and insist. This is why sometimes it looks like they're saying the same thing
But they're not. Do as they say. Literally.
*And observe his interactions with woman in the night club videos, if you understand well there's advanced game there
*The power of reframing*
That's why I love and advocate for the system above other pickup styles. Because there is a predictable and obvious progression system like in your basketball example. From begginer to advanced you know exactly what you need to work on and how it all fits together.
@@rubenjr4908 are you making publicity to The System of Todd?
You are the man. Although my first comment was not approval. Now I'm learning. Greetings from Poland. U have to come to Gdansk one day. Waldemar Wagner Gdynia. Vidomir
If you have no game, you will not be able to proactively choose the girls you want and pretty much every girl you get will be through luck or some other factor that has nothing to do with you.
Thanks Todd I needed to hear that thinking about game too much is out-gaming myself
It's so sad that Todd has to actually make this video in order to explain away all the feminist propaganda telling young men that "game is lame" nowadays. I feel sorry for Gen Z.
Nah I think this has nothing to do with feminism, it has more to do with these men complaining due to their own lack of competence and confidence
Either way, it’s made for a VERY polished, concise, clear, and collected Todd! I’m very impressed
Jackson Fung I think it comes from both feminists and incels. Like “game is manipulative” is a feminist talking point.
JackdawLifts yep. Todd speaks truth
True. By this [feminist propaganda] weak men are sorted out (with some collateral damage, maybe). I believe, this is nothing new. In the old days, let's say, in the ancient times, weak men were killed in fights, in battles, were enslaved, put in prisons [to die], put in galleys or in monasteries, etc.. Only the strong and or confident got women. Today these men are the incels. It just looks different. Nothing new under the sun.
Game is just as manipulative as preparing for a job interview. When you prepare for a job interview you are learning stuff about the company, thinking about what they may ask and coming up with answers all to get someone to hire you. Game is exactly the same thing. You prepare things to say and learn how to act in order for the woman to get attracted to you. Women wear make-up - Society doesn't condemn that as manipulating the guy into dating someone that looks completely different.
The only thing that falls outside of game is your actual body. Everything else you can modify. How you talk, how you move, the status you communicate with your attire and how you carry yourself. That's all game.
Can work on your physique and style as well.
@@ToddVDating true! Fitness is game as well. :)
@@ToddVDating Technically true. But ideally we'd like to see newbies get in shape AFTER they understand how irrelevant it is, so their confidence is based on their internals and their Game, not their externals.
@@stealth797 You're slightly mis-interpreting looks. Even owen has said looks matter. But they only dont matter after a certain level of game. And by looks I mean your style, hygiene, etc. But I still agree that newbies need to approach without looks, as I can testify to how effective that is for self confidence.
@@rubenjr4908 I pretty much agree. IMO newbies who are learning to socialize and pick up girls should be focusing on their game and being infield approaching. If they can squeeze in a workout, cool, but nowadays SO many guys in the modern PUA community (I know Todd's not one of them) are elevating looks above other tools in the game toolbox and just feeding them what they want to hear ie - “I can do this solo thing that doesn’t involve putting myself in social situations because those are scary, and it’ll get me laid because it’s almost as good as having game and that game stuff is scary and involves getting too far out of my comfort zone, now lemme put my headphones on cause I’m not gonna talk to these girls in my gym this is my sanctuary brah when I get down to 11.235% bodyfat THEN I’ll start talking to girls cuz they’ll all wanna fuck me according to what I read on the internet about looks!”
Lead generation , purposeful closing, motivating you to improve your value , and the open,hook,vibe close or get in state in loud clubs are some of the things in game that clearly seem to work.
Todd V-open, hook, vibe, close VS mysterie's open, attract, build comfort seduce. open(it's the same in both systems and really it doesn't matter what you say as long as it's not super weird, as long as you do it with confidence and assumed attraction and rapport. Then move things forward. The only difference is I don't think you should go direct whereas Todd V tends to do that because I think you need to attract the girl first and give her space to like you so she doesn't have to make a decision right away. Plus I think it shows your higher value when you wait to see if she's what you want with qualifying questions after she shows interest, before you show interest, Todd V might say it makes the interaction man to woman and non friend interaction but I think that the interactions should be an interaction between two new friends till you decide whether you're interested in her and then you can show intent through physical escalation without running the risk of her thinking that you're only going after her for Her looks, before you showing her that you like her personality), attract(you do need to hook the girl and see indicators of interest then qualify Her with questions based on your interests, hobbies, values ECT), build report/comfort(vibings sounds better because it sounds more chill and flirty and you do need to flirt while you're getting to know the girl and build a fun connection), seduce(close sounds better because people think seducing a girl's manipulative but at this stage you should just go for and if she says no back off. Or find out why she's not ready and answer her concerns.A lot of times it's not you, she just needs more time and that means that you didn't build enough comfort. that's why I prefer the word comfort because vibing just sounds like you're enjoying each other's time but not building rapport and a connection but that's also why I like the word vibing because I think you also need to enjoy each other's time while you're doing comfort. And the way you do that is by flirting, being funny, having fun enjoying yourself ,encouraging her to enjoy yourself. Where to go on adventures with you.
Thanks man you are like a big brother, I never had.
unltra-cool-big-brother on maximum capability on mental steroids!)
he's like a father to me
@@Felipe-zt3su he is...
The TODDfather.
Tens of thousands of game concepts and techniques is definitely a sticking point for guys that can’t handle that much.
This is why "small chunking it" so so important. Like with ANY skill you practice it one piece at a time. For example the next week I'm going to focus on 'misdirection'. In every set 'misdirection' is going to be my main focus. like I'm still gonna try and go for the pull and all that, but I'm only gonna judge myself on how well I did on using the 'misdirection' technique. The goal is to get so good at each facet of Pickup that it comes naturally to you where you're not consciously thinking about it. Remember the 4 stages go:
1) unconscious incompetence
2) conscious incompetence
3) conscious competence
4) unconscious competence
We are introverts, so whether we like it or not, cold approaches are our only option! This is sort of a catch 22 because we are not very sociable, yet we have to do the most extroverted thing in single-handedly approaching women! 🤯
Yes, it's true. I use non cold approach and results definitely come
You definitely are a great mentor on this field! As being English my second language I found that I lack some references either culturally or from the language itself or internal jokes that only American understand and get it. Do you have any advice on that? How do you deal when a client of yours is from another country ? Thank you!
Todd absolutely is! Love his content, watched it for years. just putting in my two cents here, but I think your cultural difference could actually help you my man. Use it to your advantage, it makes you unique and also great for conversation material. And be authentic about your lack of understanding american/english culture. (authenticity overall is very attractive) Depending on the situation and how invested she is, I believe more than likely she will be happy to explain those references in the convo. Hope this helps!
@@tytheguide1675 thank you for the advice ! Any suggestions about witty comedians i should watch or shows to have more material in my répertoire ?
@@jaimerestrepo8321 Bill Burr, Tom segura, Kevin Hart, Milton Jones, ect.. are all great ones to watch. However rather than studying so hard on their material (Jokes and actual words), focus on their demeanor and delivery. (vibe they give off)
I would say do research and find a comedian that you resonate with and genuinely find funny as hell lol This is really gonna help with adding that humorous element into your interactions. Self amusement is key in the interaction 🔑
@@tytheguide1675 definitely I've been implementing storytelling from Kevin hart i just love the way he pictures the whole scene so I try to get some of those tricks into my stories. Thank you for the advice and the help, wish you the best.👊
Hey Todd, what some people are saying is when you approach a girl she either finds you attractive or she doesn’t. No game will change this, so forget all the game pua techniques since it’s all just a numbers game.
I don’t buy into this, but I keep seeing this argument over and over again online. You may want to cover this in your follow up video.
Sounds like guys trying to justify why they don’t have good game and shouldn’t try to improve.
_Hey Fr.Todd, what some people are saying is when you approach God, he either finds you acceptable or he doesn’t. No amount of good works will change this, so forget all the Catholic teachings since it’s all just a numbers game._
_I don’t buy into this, but I keep seeing this argument over and over again online. You may want to cover this in your follow up video._
_Sounds like guys trying to justify why they don’t have good work ethic and shouldn’t try to improve._
(From Wiki: Justificatio sola fide (or simply sola fide), meaning justification by faith alone, is a Christian theological doctrine commonly held to distinguish the Reformed and Lutheran traditions of Protestantism, among others, from the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches)
You PUA ppl are hilarious
IT IS a numbers game!!
No matter how much you improve you'll ALWAYS get blow outs ALWAYS
The thing is, the better you get the more you'll convey Value before the girl rejects you so that's cool
Love the quality of your videos man!!
Hey Todd, hope you're enjoying your day. My question for you is how do you improve your verbal game if English is your second language? I've lived in the Netherlands for a few years and I find it difficult to break past the 7-8 barrier, whereas when I go on vacation to my home country I have 9s and 10s asking me out. In my mother tongue, I find it effortless to tease, joke, banter, have good vocal tonality, etc. (it also helps that I know the culture and what the ladies respond to there) but here in NL there is both a language and a culture barrier. Thank you for all your good work and best of luck!
For my homies in the comments who think they're unattractive consider this: unless you're gay you don't know what an attractive man looks like because you don't find men attractive.
Take it from a very goofy looking, average height guy who still has decent enough cold approach to get laid.
Pure gold.
Thanks a lot, Todd!
One of your best videos. SO TRUE. And explained well with great arguments.
Sad you had to make this video. But I get why. There are new generations coming up without the weekly knowledge bombs and infield footage we got. Such a pity it was taken down. I never had the money for any programs but the free RUclips content was sooooo amazing that if you got stuck in and picked up on all the nuances you could help yourself become a pretty good ladies man.
everything is on torrent websites, drives and clouds. Even their old youtibe videos
The whole reason I took the time to study game is for the sales skills, and while I haven't really put the woman side into practice it's a nice benefit to have an understanding of where I might be messing up when I do start making an effort into finding someone to have a relationship with.
It saved my life. Ty Todd, for everything 😊
Same he's an absolute legend
cope looks are everything search blackpill science on reddit. countless of scientific papers about human sexual behavior.
I agree Todd... our boys saying game don't work just because it don't for them... and to be honest, they don't actually try to learn!
Todd something that's hard to grasp is the "value" of a man. I think part of what makes a man valuable is his attention, being in the moment, his fun, charm, masculine presence, wit, intelligence, confidence, so on. But it's a really big concept that when we try to implement, it's hard to do if you never got used to people saying you're so amazing or other.
Another thing, which is kind of tied in, is how anxious it can make us guys to cold approach. That can ruin our days and we may not even approach in the first place, or be frustrated after dozens of approaches.
Great to see your success on youtube and providing awesome videos.
I think he's right. At 25 I'm a Virgin.
I don't think I'm super model looking but I know for a fact that I'm decent looking. I have been told so by people of all ages and gender.
I'm able to get girls attention but don't know wat to do with it (in the moment). To make it worse I work and study from home and stay in all day.
Infact last I tried talked to a girl (romantically that is) was couple years ago at a social gathering. Lookin back I realized that she was DTF but I was too much of a chode.
Better fix your shit, you will be posting this at 50 if you don't.
@@alb12345672 true
i can tell you i was there for some time because on how i was raised as a child, a good thing that helped was just go on walks to the mall, park, go watch your local games, etc and speak to randoms, first could be ask for the time, then after some time, you could even have a convo with 10 people in 1 day like it's nothing and from there, going to places & talking to random Girls is a breeze
@@edgaral tnks ya it does help. I was talking to atleast a couple strangers for time and stuff during morning walks. Then lock down hit and momentum was gone.
Now I find it hard to get out of the house for no reason.
But I know if I push myself for like a week it will get easier.
the “just be on your purpose” and “just be high SMV” and the women will follow crowd doesn’t get is that there is always going to be men of equal or higher purpose/SMV than you. No matter how high I’m the totem pole you think you are. Especially if you live in large cities, male competition is fierce there are MANY men who are “on their purpose” and have “smv”. There is nothing particularly special about it to women. …. what makes the difference? doing those things *and* GAME.
Exactly. Taking on challenging goals in training, sport, business, hobby, career, education and having a higher purpose can be super important for men.
But learning that stuff doesn”t produce the same development that a girl laughing in their face or guys AMOG’ing them produces. Because, as a former nightclub promoter, almost every time I would take guys who are successful in other areas (business, hobbies, career, education, whatever), and put a hot girl in front of them, they would chode out and freeze up.
Because they’re learning situational confidence and only a few of the subcomms that actually relate to interacting with and seducing women. Hitting the field DIRECTLY forces men to develop subcomms (Game) that relate to interacting with and seducing women.
I'm using your video as an positive example in women and life. Great video, nice balance.
this mans genius is scary
What you said makes perfect sense! I find what works best is just being in the moment..completely natural conversation..spur of the moment..add a little humor..maybe a “ one- liner” ,,get them to laugh..it’s important..My major problem is I can’t close the deal...I always just got scared to ask for their number..and I fucking hate it bc I’m always alone..no girls at all...🦁🦁☘️☘️😞😞✌️✌️
it's been 7 months now have u fixed ur issue ?
Todd! Love your work brother. One point I differ on you with. Robert Greene in the Art of Seduction said that we must leave morals at the door. Seduction is a battle and anything goes. Plus, some women in particular are dying for the ups and downs a good seduction can bring her.
You very well put together thank you coach for everything! Yesterday I went to the mall did 4 cold approaches and 2 numbers both really attractive
Fuck yeah bro 💪
Here's one that I've heard:
Game DOES work... IN THE BEGINNING, but you can't keep the girl, because even if you can "fake" the signals to convey high value, you're not gonna be able to fake them all along the relationship with the girl.
Of course you shouldn't lie if a relationship is your goal.
A lot of the thinking behind game still applies.
If you think game is about "faking" being high value then you misunderstand it. Game has always been about eventually becoming high value through practice and experience. Don't cap.
Meh this is just theory, in practice it can work. I've seen my friend do it.
you're not suppose to "fake", what's there to fake about?
Who wants a relationship anyways dude?
I don't care if the woman want to stick with me or nah, I won't be the provider of no one
Purposely commenting before I’ve finished @13:49 because I think Todd’s pretty smart and may address it but so far it seems like, sure game can work when done right and on some level the circumstances it’s done under matter and better circumstances/ higher value help scale.
But this just seems like a neutral statement that applies to arguments against it as well. If someone builds a life they are very proud of and has some socially perceived indicators of success then, under the right circumstances they could achieve the same results.
The average person (maybe not extreme cases) who enjoys certain hobbies or activities that will position them in spaces where people they are attracted to are and fall into the ‘life they are proud of’ category will probably do just as well as the person more reliant on game = conveying value which they have less of.
You can do simple things to convey value that don’t even require speaking. The way you dress, the environments you are in, people you are around, how you spend your time, etc. then even when you do communicate verbally you just share your honest truth about the life you are proud of and that conveys value inherently.
I think, the real argument against committing so much time to game is that, at the end of the time commitment...if you don’t achieve the social results you want will you still be happy?
Vs
If you commit that time to building a life you are proud of and don’t get the social results will you still be happy?
Even if the answer is no on both, at least you have something you are proud of in the latter and at least you have the resources all the internet coaches will ask for so that you can get quality help.
If you spend the same time any coach did on game and it isn’t making you money you are going to regret that.
TL:dr game is nice to learn but don’t prioritize it > building a life you are proud of. Spend your time wisely.
And it won’t cost you and arm and a leg also! Why or how these ‘coaches’ can charge the amount of money they do is criminal.
Writing so long, i bet you dont even have balls to open a RUclips channel showing your face
Everyone makes excuses based on their view of the world for why success/failure happens. The short or tall guy thinks it’s a height thing, the ugly or perfect face guy thinks it’s a facial aesthetics thing, the poor or rich guy thinks it’s a money thing, etc etc And if the short guy could grow a few feet and still wasn’t getting laid he would say “oh it must be a facial/money” thing depending on what he doesn’t have. It’s an endless cycle because they don’t really understand how attraction works.
And a lot of guys put on a front that they’re confident, or come across confident when you talk to them at the gym or in the boardroom, etc. But put their perfect hot girl in front of them and tell them to approach her and see how many of those guys can translate that confidence to macking her and how many chode out and drop the ball as their internals fall apart, even if you introduce the girl TO him.
I don’t even listen to guys (good-looking or ugly) talking about what pimps they are or how they’re going to go fuck some sluts tonight bla bla during a pregame when I meet new dudes. I just wait till we’re in the field and see how that confidence actually holds up, and throw girls at them, poke at their frames a bit in front of the girls, etc to see what they do and find out who ACTUALLY has a strong frame and who was full of shit. The VASSSST majority of the time the guys (no matter how good looking or successful) are full of shit.
You don’t get better at seducing women by hitting the gym or making money. You get better at seducing women by seducing women.
Hey Todd! Epic video. I’m very impressed with the quality. I feel like you hired a professional even for the background and setting to look just right. Not in an obvious set up way, but after a few minutes in, I was like hang on, this is spot on. Haha. Also how you weren’t polarising in a negative way. For instance as Mother Teresa would say, you can’t be anti-war, you have to be pro peace. I feel like you conveyed game to someone who may be triggered by it, excellently, while also, allowing me to realise, yea, it’s ok, despite the climate, this is the truth I need to follow, I can trust it again, despite the climate of people removing such advice and inspirations. Some great other points too.
When it comes to medium size cities up to 500.000 population, how do you make game work best, as in this case, you end up meeting people you met before, or some people heard of you. Or in my case, game a girl which then tells one of her girls about the experience just to find out that I have spoken to her as well. This is one of my only impressions about game that it doesn't work. Would be nice to hear your take in this. Although you did mention in the video that game works best in the big cities, but still how should one adapt in a middle size city?
“Leave women better than you found them.” Gospel. Thank you Todd. 🙏 However, I would take it a step further and say leave people in general, better than you found them.
big advice ,dont get stuck with the first one mediocre girl who let you in. keep pointing up while you improve yourselve.
Hey Todd,
Im getting girls to agree to go on dates with me and such but the problem now is actually finding a time and day that works for both of us (due to work and sports) what do you suggest for this?
Instant dates
Are you sure they are really having no time to go out with you? Not trying to insult you in any meaning but maybe you just don’t convey enough value to girls🤷🏻
This is a logistical problem. The best logistics are same day lays. Aside from that, anything short of screening for girls with better logistics or creating better logistics for yourself is going to require you to sacrifice your work or sports. Someone said better value can help, but that only goes so far.
@@rubenjr4908 I seeee, I can always increase my value as a man and will continue to work on that, as you say though i may just have to find girls who suit my schedule!
Hey Todd great video! Here’s another. In 2021, many people say that we should stop “bothering” women by approaching them and just leave them to their business when they’re already doing something, like waiting for coffee or walking somewhere. This has especially been spurred on by the feminist movement who say that men that are strangers who approach women are potentially dangerous to those women. With that message potentially becoming more popular, what would you say to those that say game doesn’t work because women are bothered or even afraid being approached? Looking forward to your response!
Also to anyone reading I’m not saying feminism is bad or anything, I’m just saying this is a topic they’ve been exploring
youre right, one of the reasons i became a lot more careful with approaches. its not worth a lawsuit.
If you want to improve or just maintain a decent level of game you have to constantly be working on it. A girlfriend will slow down your progress. That’s why in my opinion the goal is not to find a girlfriend but to become more confident and meet (have sex with) as many girls as possible. That way you’ll always be improving your game.
Also known as abundance mindset
The goal is to thrive. For some people that means finding a high quality girlfriend. For others it's to have sex with many women. But in order to reach those goals, we need to improve our processes. Game is the process and the way, both internal and external.
But then you stop improving your game. You’ll have to start from scratch when you eventually move on. The problem with having a girlfriend is not only that your game deteriorates because you’re no longer approaching and interacting with other girls but your confidence also is affected and in most cases you also stop working out since you’re no longer exposing yourself to other girls.
@@JoaoMassot My personal experience is the complete opposite of this.
But my initial point was that game shouldn't be the goal. It is the process, or the skillset to reach your goals more efficiently. It is the "Path", not the "Destination".
@@JoaoMassot Then you're using game as a crutch because you're lacking innergame skills. The idea that your game deteriorates is only partially true, but it doesnt dramatically deteriorate. Just like riding a bike doesnt go away. You only have to relearn from scratch if you dont internalize the lessons learned, and that is from a lack of innergame. You can maintain game and have a gf at the same time.
this cute girl who worked at subway asked me if i had plans when we were talking while she was making my sub, and for some reason i didnt ask for her number, and i havent seen her yet since when i go there. wish i was thinking about picking her up bc i was just waiting for the sub and didnt even cross my mind since i dont go out much
I couldn't agree more with it all. I do mean all. I do NOT sell game courses like you ha ha, yet I always mention your points in discussing this topic. One unmentioned, is that most guys dislike rejection too much and use cynism and "it doesn't work" as coping mechanism for their bruised egos. Or blame women in general for not thinking like... men.
I've been in sales and the similarities are near complete. I started that career thinking sales was scummy and all that before I was in the business. Of course many salespeople ARE scummy, but it's got nothing to do with the skillsets, but with the motives or bad they are at it... like game.
I recall cringing at the "influence" part of the super famous How to Win Friends and Influence People book. But I realized reading it it's "influence", not "manipulate"! Big difference. And when you are bad at game or social skills or whatever, you still use it anyway... but get bad results. Game works, I know ha ha.
6 Minutes into this video and it is highly objective and profound. If you took a basketball ball team with forwards, point guards, ect and each one of your players represented one facet of your game you need to bring out the best performance of each player. So physicality may be your forward scorer, while style may be your point guard. Your team needs to always be practicing and posting points in every area of game. Do that and you will win way more than you lose. So with that said KOBE and Jordan would be what part of your game and what in game is the most important part though all parts are important. 1 star like Jordan or Kobe can win you a ton of games. What part of game can get you the most consistent wins? I would imagine you need to be strong at the minimum 2 categories as a passer and shooter. So for Kobe and Shaq what elements of game would they be? Please chime in.
This is just pure GOLD
I took some notes. Awesome material Todd 👍
Completely agree with all youre saying. But the whole value story seems too serious to me. For me what worked best is when I just stopped giving a fk about life and just started having fun, sometimes even being reckless. Thats not really showing value, but it did work in attracting women.
lol it cant seem to serious when were just trying to be happy in life but its still a very valid model for example;
You were conveying your value as a fun, entertaining guy when you stopped giving a fuck and focused on fun. People saw you and thought, "hey that guy is really enjoying himself and loving life, I want a piece of that action too let me get to know him better"
I don't do any of this garbage line crap. I show up to a bar late at night, around 11:30 to 1am, usually by myself, order a drink relatively near some people, and a lot of times girls will approach me. Works at least 50% of the time. No effort. The fact I'm by myself and there isn't a friend for them to feel nervous around is all they need to approach. Doesn't hurt the way I look, but that's all planned with my long hair, working out, style, etc. I've worked on that. Honestly I like going by myself more. Don't have to deal with jealous friends, or try to help them, I don't have to feel bad, etc. My success rate is tremendous by myself, not great with friends due to the previously mentioned reasons.
Todd is like the uncle we never had
the creepy uncle that wants you to sit on his lap
very good video. Well said Todd
The game is like theoretical material and inspiration, for those who do not understand at all how to behave with women. What's important to them and what's hooking them.
Well, at least that's what I can deduce from the RUclips videos.
Game is just social aptitude. It does work given you meet certain threshholds. Just like practicing basketball will make you a better basketball player, but a guy who is 5 feet tall will never be a great basketball player whereas a guy who is 6'10 has a much higher chance.
i think a big part of game, or the reason guys are bad at game is because they cant handle the brutal competition. they are decent with a girl one on one, but as soon as another guy with more confidence shows up they melt away. that feeling is so painful that they give up entirely or settle for an ugly girlfriend.
This is not a question related to Game but: can you give an example of how you'd pitch a product? I really do believe that you're a fantastic salesman!
VERY WELL PRESENTED.
YOU will be the cold-approach expert I'll be working with, for future reference.
Isn’t game basically the art of being interesting and entertaining in a dynamic way, which is attractive?
If yes, then of course game works, according to a man’s skill with it.
To add to that, game also includes using that entertainment to create the relationship you want with women in general
yes but its very specific also with certain techniques that a lot of guys wouldnt learn from experience (or it would take them a long time). for example sexual escalation is something a lot of guys are bad at even if they are interesting and entertaining. game teaches how to avoid resistance and landmines and to do it as quickly as possible instead of going on 5 dates first.
Would love to hear you and Marquett Burton have a conversation on a podcast or something
The thumbnail… XD Todd is the goat!
A lot of game is a description of intuitive actions. If you don't have those intuitions, you need to learn them. If you don't, you will stay where you are.
dude this is exactly some of the answers I was looking for. Great video todd !
I agree game is essential. And I learned this in an interesting way. For me, I never had more and better game than the 4-5 years I was in a touring punk rock band in my late 20s. My guitar player, drummer and I used to keep little lists so we didn't all sleep with the same girls. (although that certainly happened). But after that I grew up a bit, had a kid with my ex-wife and it was like a cold shower. I came to figure out what the girls liked was not us per se, but the status that came with being the center of attention (i.e. high value - in a successful band/musician). The "bad boy" aesthetic also helped (punky look, hair, clothes, edgy etc..) plus being in our physical prime.
However,...Now that I am older, a dad, and divorced, I am trying to get back into the dating scene but it's very difficult. ESPECIALLY now that many of the cute girls are married off, and staying in shape is HARD after 30, game becomes ESSENTIAL. So even if you are naturally beautiful, wealthy, or naturally super interesting (I am *none of those* , trust and believe, my game was always my intellect and being charming) do yourself a BIG favor and learn at least some of what he is teaching. You might just find yourself at 37 and looking for a hot 25 year old to parade in front of your ex wife as a big middle finger. LOL Or like me, you may just miss that feminine energy in your life and having lots of ass.
So learn this man's techniques. I also STRONGLY recommend reading The Rational Male by Rolo Tomassi. Absolutely crucial info in that book, (although the author takes a dim view on modern women which I don't necessarily share 100%.)
Game isn’t manipulative it’s having superior social skills and being your best self. Anything can be used for bad purposes. Getting good builds confidence and self-esteem and it’s self development.
What are your thoughts on the BEST places/situations to practice game infield?
I've heard that crowded places are best for practice especially for beginners because you can just disappear into the crowd if the set goes bad and move on to the next one. But, for people who don't have access to crowded spots, what areas would you say are decent/better alternatives?
I practice at a college campus. tons of options there.