Because Athena symbolizes something that a woman could never be in their society. She is the line that women are not supposed to cross in ancient greek culture, so she is a guideline for men and a restriction for women
@@Emwashere113 That is not true I can list many names of women who were pristeses, artisans, philosophers, writers and the list goes on. Athena was a patron Goddess of crafts among others, There is not distinction for male or female crafts
Goddess Athena is the embodiment of pure wisdon, that is why she comes right out of her fathers head. She does not tolarete selfishness, petty sentiments, whe urges you to think big. As for the two myths the simple answer is this Arachne was arogant and in her ignorance insulted the Gods with her tapestry so she commites hybris then nemesis has to step in to bring balance. As for Medusa there are two versions of the myth 1st she makes love inside the temple of Athena, thus disrespecting the Virgin Goddess or the second Medusa is raped by Poseidon, Athenas uncle, in her temple. Eventualy the head of Medusa becoms the most dreaded weapon, thus making amends. The philosophical aproach is far more deeper and it will take time
Dear WHE, I love this little video essay. Thanks. The extent to which Wagner drew upon Athena as a source for Brunhilda, whilst seemingly dramatizing only the Norse mythology, is very striking. Wagner, now there is a decent woman-loving, pro-feminist, emotionally and psychically sophisticated bloke. An honorary woman, in fact, whom I playfully rename as Rachael von Wagner. Love andrea
Athena represent caculated cunning, skills that are rooted from war and political interest. Heroes are evaluated by valor, and their exploits are woven into: tapestry, song, and amphora. Yet, women are the central retainers of wisdom. Arachne's work, revealed the cruelty of divine power; a truth, in which Athena felt enraged. Because, weaving is a gift to solidify one's memory on earth...
When we deal with Greek mythology, we mention what the Ancient Greeks believed and wrote and not what the Romans wrote a thousand years later. The distortions of the myths by Ovid and other writers of the Roman era are not trustworthy.
Aries. He was the jealous brother who always wanted to be greater. Sounds like he rejected her help more than once. So she favors the mortal men to fulfill her roles as a sister of war.
"why she only punishes women harshly?" that's a false observation in the first place so the question doesn't even stand here. When you have a lack of knowledge about myths then only you would make that observation. she has helped/punishes many men and women equally.
@@flippednormals297 Athena turned one of her maidens into Medusa after she was forced by Poseidon to have relations. Years later, Athena, aided Perseus to cut off Medusa’s head. That’s just one story. I would love to hear the ones about the men. So please go on…
@@AOE756 Athena punishing men, 1. Ajax Oilean along with so many warriors aswell. 2. Ajax Telamonian 3. Teuthis 4. Laocoom 5. Ilus 6. Tiresias Wanna know other myths where she helps women against a man? 1. Cassandra Ajax myth I already mentioned above. 2. Danaides, 50 women in total. 3. Elaea & Myrsine Since you dare mention Medusa's roman story by ovid. 4. Coroneis, (roman story) Neptune was trying to ***E her, Minerva helps the girls escape him. 5. Nyctimene, she was ***Ed by her father, Minerva takes pity upon her and changes her into an owl who becomes Minvera's companion. Wanna know other where she just generally helps a woman. 1. Ployboia 2. Eurynome 3. Coronides 4. Pandareides
I found an ancient statue that is blue and it's a female wearing a breast plate like wonder woman and a shield on her right and she's holding a vase or something. Come help me out. click the face.
Athena is very real and she was revered. She is a living god. You will be meeting her soon enough. She has many names and she is very old. She also has the ability to transform. She fucking hates human pride. See the flood for reference, female I rule only!!!
"why she only punishes women harshly?" that's a false observation in the first place so the question doesn't even stand here. When you have a lack of knowledge about myths then only you would make that observation. she has helped/punishes many men and women equally.
Why don't you move to the Middle East, or China, or better yet North Korea. I agree with you, Western Civilization treats females very badly, and a woman of such obviously high intellect, as yourself, deserves much more. I'll send you the money pay for the expenses you incur in your move; I wan't you to be happy. So where do you think you want to go live? When will you leave? You might like Saudi Arabia, or maybe Turkey? There are Greek ruins there, maybe you can find the temple of some evil male god, and squat down and piss on his alter...That will show them! Don't take any bull$hit from men here. If you go to Saudi Arabia, you can type real words in your RUclips comments, and not use a dollar sign as an "S," like I HAVE to here in the land of the free, America. Not only will you be able to speak freely, but I think you'll find that they treat women far better there, and your beauty will be fully appreciated. I see you like scarves? Well they'll give a black scarve that covers your whole head, even your face. You'll love your new freedom there, and you will finally get the RESPECT an intellect such as yourself deserves. Let me know when, and where you are moving, so I can get the money together to pay for your voyage. I wish I was smart like you. I feel so dumb seeing my foolish words below your words of wisdom. I think you're wiser than even Athena. Talk to you soon.
Why do you think a goddess of wisdom and women’s crafts would so favour Greek male heroes, and bring such force down on women?
Because Athena symbolizes something that a woman could never be in their society.
She is the line that women are not supposed to cross in ancient greek culture, so she is a guideline for men and a restriction for women
@@Emwashere113 That is not true I can list many names of women who were pristeses, artisans, philosophers, writers and the list goes on. Athena was a patron Goddess of crafts among others, There is not distinction for male or female crafts
Goddess Athena is the embodiment of pure wisdon, that is why she comes right out of her fathers head. She does not tolarete selfishness, petty sentiments, whe urges you to think big. As for the two myths the simple answer is this Arachne was arogant and in her ignorance insulted the Gods with her tapestry so she commites hybris then nemesis has to step in to bring balance. As for Medusa there are two versions of the myth 1st she makes love inside the temple of Athena, thus disrespecting the Virgin Goddess or the second Medusa is raped by Poseidon, Athenas uncle, in her temple. Eventualy the head of Medusa becoms the most dreaded weapon, thus making amends. The philosophical aproach is far more deeper and it will take time
Hail Lady Athena🦉💙
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Dear WHE,
I love this little video essay. Thanks.
The extent to which Wagner drew upon Athena as a source for Brunhilda, whilst seemingly dramatizing only the Norse mythology, is very striking.
Wagner, now there is a decent woman-loving, pro-feminist, emotionally and psychically sophisticated bloke.
An honorary woman, in fact, whom I playfully rename as Rachael von Wagner.
Love andrea
Hail Athena!
🙂👍
Very good! She has many other names too but yeah it was very informative!
Glad you liked it!
Athena represent caculated cunning, skills that are rooted from war and political interest. Heroes are evaluated by valor, and their exploits are woven into:
tapestry, song, and amphora.
Yet, women are the central retainers of wisdom. Arachne's work, revealed the cruelty of divine power; a truth, in which Athena felt enraged. Because, weaving is a gift to solidify one's memory on earth...
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🙂
informative
Thanks for watching!
*LOVE iT*
Thank you! 🙂
My favorite greek mythology figure is Zeus and Athena
When we deal with Greek mythology, we mention what the Ancient Greeks believed and wrote and not what the Romans wrote a thousand years later. The distortions of the myths by Ovid and other writers of the Roman era are not trustworthy.
Athena
Aries. He was the jealous brother who always wanted to be greater.
Sounds like he rejected her help more than once. So she favors the mortal men to fulfill her roles as a sister of war.
We agree. Thanks for watching!
"why she only punishes women harshly?"
that's a false observation in the first place so the question doesn't even stand here.
When you have a lack of knowledge about myths then only you would make that observation.
she has helped/punishes many men and women equally.
@@flippednormals297 Athena turned one of her maidens into Medusa after she was forced by Poseidon to have relations. Years later, Athena, aided Perseus to cut off Medusa’s head.
That’s just one story.
I would love to hear the ones about the men. So please go on…
@@AOE756
Athena punishing men,
1. Ajax Oilean along with so many warriors aswell.
2. Ajax Telamonian
3. Teuthis
4. Laocoom
5. Ilus
6. Tiresias
Wanna know other myths where she helps women against a man?
1. Cassandra Ajax myth I already mentioned above.
2. Danaides, 50 women in total.
3. Elaea & Myrsine
Since you dare mention Medusa's roman story by ovid.
4. Coroneis, (roman story) Neptune was trying to ***E her, Minerva helps the girls escape him.
5. Nyctimene, she was ***Ed by her father, Minerva takes pity upon her and changes her into an owl who becomes Minvera's companion.
Wanna know other where she just generally helps a woman.
1. Ployboia
2. Eurynome
3. Coronides
4. Pandareides
@@AOE756I wanted to add the reasons for punishement, while some stories are sensitive, youtube is filtering my comment for some reason.
I found an ancient statue that is blue and it's a female wearing a breast plate like wonder woman and a shield on her right and she's holding a vase or something. Come help me out. click the face.
why she only punishes women harshly? well because of societal expectations throughout history, and because even Goddesses are dreamt up by men.
Athena is very real and she was revered. She is a living god. You will be meeting her soon enough. She has many names and she is very old. She also has the ability to transform.
She fucking hates human pride. See the flood for reference, female
I rule only!!!
"why she only punishes women harshly?"
that's a false observation in the first place so the question doesn't even stand here.
When you have a lack of knowledge about myths then only you would make that observation.
she has helped/punishes many men and women equally.
Why don't you move to the Middle East, or China, or better yet North Korea. I agree with you, Western Civilization treats females very badly, and a woman of such obviously high intellect, as yourself, deserves much more. I'll send you the money pay for the expenses you incur in your move; I wan't you to be happy.
So where do you think you want to go live? When will you leave? You might like Saudi Arabia, or maybe Turkey? There are Greek ruins there, maybe you can find the temple of some evil male god, and squat down and piss on his alter...That will show them! Don't take any bull$hit from men here. If you go to Saudi Arabia, you can type real words in your RUclips comments, and not use a dollar sign as an "S," like I HAVE to here in the land of the free, America.
Not only will you be able to speak freely, but I think you'll find that they treat women far better there, and your beauty will be fully appreciated. I see you like scarves? Well they'll give a black scarve that covers your whole head, even your face. You'll love your new freedom there, and you will finally get the RESPECT an intellect such as yourself deserves. Let me know when, and where you are moving, so I can get the money together to pay for your voyage. I wish I was smart like you. I feel so dumb seeing my foolish words below your words of wisdom. I think you're wiser than even Athena. Talk to you soon.
😂😂Intriguing.....Jason is my Ex not just a friend lol
😄 Thanks for watching!
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I think you're analyzing ancient stories with a modern lens and it's causing cognitive dissonance.
Thank you for your feedback.
What makes you say that?
God, help break free whoever reads this. Amen.
Thanks for watching!
"Break free" sure hail athena
Goddess please help break free whoever reads this. A woman.