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@@Ca55per i haven't kept track, but mix of mystery and rebirth. however charm tables seem to be buggy for some, and just not working right in general, so try as one might but they may not even see the talisman they're looking for, or be on a repeated rotation. supposedly capcom is aware of the issue, but unsure of time to fix it. hopefully next update. you can read more info here: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/mtv2ak/the_charm_tables_have_converged_i_see_into_your/ narwa seems like the best bloodrun jewel farm currently. 3-5 jewels on average. so there's that if you want to hold off on melding.
@@PWARGaming Yeah, I haven't gotten a WE 2, Pierce Up, Ammo Up, Spread Up, or Spare Shot 2 talisman yet at all... let alone with good slots. A spare shot 2 talisman would revolutionize my bowgun gameplay. Edit: Or Rapid Up... I knew I forgot one.
@@Ca55per these just popped up. 2 tables people have mapped out. unfortunately my combination in the video is not on these list so idk what table i'm on, but perhaps you may get a spare shot 2 if you have talismans on either of these tables: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qU8rCYAsZCmF83_YjKBcFIEfotuO6mGucJylNTYcDVc/edit#gid=0
Aim Booster helps shorten critical distance. So you don't need to be a mile away to be in critical distance. The critical distance is super generous with it.
you dont need lvl 3 reload speed or recoil down for the narga lbg with 1 lvl of reload speed you max out your reload speed and 2 lvls of recoil to max it
NO SHOT. Really? awesome, i'll scrounge up a better build then. tho, they're just lv1 slots so it might not be that big a deal. lv3 stun resist i suppose :p
Slicing is good when narwa’s weak points are not glowing anymore. So when you start to do white dmg all over the body and even the face. Then switch to slicing ammo on the face. It will do yellow dmg vs where pierce will do white. Also when it’s in this state, para it. So it’s glowing belly will be exposed again and you keep doing dps.
If you haven't been able to increase your times i recommend just using a plain old crit boost 2, wex 2, attack 4, peirce up and all that its a drastic increase in dps and will help with completion times my build i can get sup 8 minutes each hunt
I personally would replace your gloves with rathalos and your legs with rajah with a weakness exploit talisman. This allows enough slotage to get your attack boost to 7 along with if you have a weakness exploit 2 talisman, you will be able to make use of that crit boost on rajang legs.
Me: I don’t wanna use a bow gun, I like getting right in their faces! BG mains: Turns monster to Swiss cheese as my cart rolls pass them the second time.
6:10 **Thank you** for putting regimented chapter markers and all the info on screen at the same time; armor, skills, talisman, _and_ gems. So many of these build guides spend 20 minutes babbling and when you bring up the video to double check everything you have to waste time scanning through the video to find the specific parts where they mention the exact items. Or they don't list the gems at all, just the skill screen, so I need to bring out my crystal ball to magically divine which gems go into that list of skills...
Great vid definitely going to try the set up to farm her but I have learned using BG not to use craft all since the pierce 2 crafts 4 at a time you can craft more then what you would need and waist mats during a hunt
just combine all when you run out of ammo. max ammo pierce 2 is 60 which is devidable by 4. or you can just rid the 2 points in ammo up (2 points for 1 shot is just not worth it imo) and you can craft whenever.
When I tested Wex seemed to underperform on pierce so i dont use that either on narga lbg also my pierce 2 only need 2 recoil 2 reload speed. Aim booster 3 definitely not needed, 2 is okay
Still working my way through the game. Interesting build may actually look into a lbg build later. Right now trying to get to a point to do a charge blade or switch axe part braker build. I got most of the build planed out so far. Just need to get to a point to farm parts.
Damn Narga is a superstar in this game bruh. I mainly used LS and Narga's final upgrade (i haven't fought Narwa yet) is 180 raw damage + good amount of white sharpness + 35% aff + a Lvl 2 deco slot (which fits Quick Sheath deco perfectly) which is kinda disgusting tbh lmao
Iirc, you dont need recoil and reload at 3. The extra point doesnt improve the pierce shots. Also, i think the point for aim booster was so each pierce hit is in critical distance. If you hit at the absolute maximum distance for crit distance, the first hit will only be in crit distance, other hits will hit for lower
I feel like this will still be the best charm farm for most people simply because you fight her in one area. The elder dragons have mats with similar costs, but unless you're killing them before they move to a different area you're just going to take extra time chasing it across the zone.
So I really enjoyed Rise, but honestly with the lack of a suitable end game challenge that makes grinding worth it I've kinda since put in on hold. BUT it was also my first MH game, so I just picked up World, and have been grinding that till more comes out in Rise. Reallllllly excited to see what they come up with seeing the much more robust end game of World/Iceborn to match the fun faster pace of Rise with the wirebug combo system
@@simonshura9144 historically speaking, G rank is never included in the first release. Prior to World, it was always in a second release of the game (as in the case of Monster Hunter Generations ULTIMATE, and the many games before it). With World, it was released as a DLC expansion in the form of Iceborne, which is likely what they'll do with rise if I were to guess.
Oh, and it will. I play Hammer, Greatsword and HBG, and every single time I switch to my gloryfied Portable bofors AM (anti monster, get it?) to pound the monsters with rounds of 30 MV of pure justice, I mix up the commands at least 5 times each hunt, for the next 5 hunts, after which, I go back to melee, only to fuck up some more. It’s very funny. Hail HBG btw
I know nargacuga is more "meta" but I prefer the ibushi lbg as it has rapid pierce 2, rapid spread 2, and rapid shrapnel 2 and holds 2 slicing in a clip default without any armor skills, doesn't hav the best ramp skills granted but I'm fine with increased damage against all flying creatures
I was sort of able to make your set. I still need practice but I did it in 15 minutes. Still better than relying on randoms for 20+ minutes lol I didn’t understands, when is it best to use slicing? Update: did 11 minutes just now. Totally worth it.
nice! you'll improve as you get more familiar of the best distance for each attack n such. slicing and piercing, depends on positioning and distance. if she's too close, use slicing. if she's in critical range for pierce, use pierce. some attacks a slicing can stick to her as she rotates away from you which would be easier to aim for than using pierce. when she falls, sometimes her arm blocks you from shooting her belly till you move in correct angle to not hit her arms, to which case you could use slicing on her arms as you rotate to a better position to use piercing on her belly. slicing can hit more orange numbers vs parts that piercing can't. its got limited ammo tho, so you tend to have to use both. i see speedrunners use both, so i recommend using both as well.
I was specifically searching on google builds for narwa a few days ago! This is perfect! I have a question though, how do you unlock the dragonator and the wyvernshot early? You did it for example @8:45 but i swear even watching the video i don't get how the rock just breaks offf!
The rocks breaking are scripted; once you fight Narwa a few times you can tell when she's about to break the rocks so you can use the dragonator and wyvernshot respectively :) EDIT: It has to do with the amount of damage you do to her. After you reach a certain point she breaks each rock.
yah its a dmg thing. the goal for any lbg build you go for against her should be able to make her fall just shortly after you flash her. as it'll speed up that time she moves to the middle. it takes some getting used to to know when she goes, but eventually you'll get the feel for it. extra tip is when fighting her, slowly rotate to the left(or right), dont just attack in place. this will put you closer to the wyvernshot shot as if she's between you and the wyvernshot adn she goes to the middle she'll do a roar thing and kinda stunlock you slowing your killspeed down.
Honestly lbg isnt the most big brain weapon to use, nor the most complex one. But I just really like the simplicity and just the fun in going pew pew to the monster. Just something to relax and chill for farming, instead of my greatsword with wich I sweat and swear everysecond of the hunt
i dunno... like... first time i tried this build, it took me 15 minutes to kill her and i died 2 times, then i learn a little, and manage to kill her without dying... in 15 minutes... no matter how good i play i finish this fight in no less than 15 minutes... not in less than 6....
yah we had a hh user in a couple hunts on my narwa stream. got some decent times, sub 9, maybe sub 8. i think fastest time was 6'41 with all lbgs or something tho.
I thought I’d never like guns in this game and even after playing for so many years, it blows my mind that any weapon feels so good to play with, even the ones you’d never see yourself using 😂
How did you get a sub 6 bro?!? I have crafted several variations of this set one of them that has spare shot 3, attack boost 4 and 100% crit with crit boost 2. With good spare shot rng my set significantly out-damages the attack boost 4 ammo up set and i’ve fought her like 20 times with LBG and still can’t get a sub 6. My fastest time is 6:17 , you need to be positioned perfectly next to the wyvern shot and dragonator when she goes to the center because if you have to run all the way there it eats up the clock and when she lifts the rocks you get wind blasted further wasting time. I have this fight down to script and still can’t get a sub 6 Edit: I was able to get the sub-6, with good rng and near perfect play (didn’t get hit once) I got a 5:30. I used fanning maneuver often to get the damage buff, I used a 100% crit build with crit boost 2 and spare shot, and brought two palicos with power drum. I absolutely nuked her ass and it was a no-hit run
Do you consistently get these times with this build? I've never touched any of the guns in these games before (playing since Tri) but I need stuff to do while waiting for the update so this may be something I try!!
I'm playing Monster Hunter for 15 years, and my first run with this build against narwa was like 18minutes because I struggled with the new moves and I didn't made a loadout yet. But sub 10 minutes is pretty much garantied when you now the controls.
the 2nd or 3rd try with my build version 1 (with ammo up) i got the sub 6 clear :p i then tried out the 2nd version (with crit boost and wex) and got 2 sub 7's in 3 runs total. i'd say pretty consistent for a total of less than 10 uses with the wpn, and having ZERO prior experience with gunning at all. then again i'm decent at shooter games so maybe that's why i'm doing ok with it.
@@kupo5430 pretty much. spinning laser move = loss time. if you get hit by the roar on way to wyvern shot/dragonator = loss time. best rng is upside attacks. upright position i tend to use slicing now
Thanks, very helpful, but I'm confused about something. You said switch this switch that, but (I might be wrong, maybe I didn't pay great attention), you've been using pretty much only Pierce Ammo? lol
sometimes narwa rotates weird and makes pierce hard to hit, whereas slicing ammo can get some good dmg in while you reposition. if you dont have aim booster you can't be too close either for piercing, and sometimes she flies towards you. for the run i mainly use piercing but general advice is use both, as speedrunners mix in both as well. example if narwa has her tail in front of you, instead of using pierce which will likely not hit good dmg, use slicing on the tip of her tail, which does max dmg still, WHILE rotating to a better position, if that makes sense.
I was under the impression that "Normal/Rapid Up" only applied to Bow, while "Rapid Fire Up" applied to the bowguns? Do they both apply to bowguns? If so, do they stack?
the first is bow only yah. there is no rapid shot for example for gun. while bowgun has normal shots, they're usually kinda sucky so no one builds them often. rapid "fire" up is specifically for the rapid fire ammo setting that some bowguns have, like narga for its pierce shots, which you can tell by the icons from looking at ammo. if you had lets say, normal shot with rapid fire up, then both would stack i imagine.
Does someone know why my damage numbers are white instead of yellow even if I'm shooting to her weak spots? The only time where I see yellow numbers is when I shoot the ball sack. (I'm pretty much using the exact same build)
Well this would have been useful 2 weeks back... I feel content with my charm-farm having netted me 1 WEX 2, wirebug whisperer 2, 2-0-0 talsiman and one WEX 2, speed sharpening 1, 1-1-0 talisman. Also the endgame is a bit horrid I feel, as there really isn't enough variety for me to keep playing for long periods of times, just 2-3 challenging event-style quests would have gone a long way to keep me engaged, I think, but now all I do is waiting for the update
i buff at start. so mega demon drug, demon powder, and might seed. i also eat for temper, booster, and marksman with dango ticket for 100% success, like i recommended. if you bring cat with go-fight win, you also get atk increase from them occasionally.
Ive already done 70 Something of this with the other lbg build and same, i never played lbg before. Its so easy with that. But why take pierce 2 over 3? Is there a reason?
rapid fire pierce 2. It just pumps out the damage like nobody's business. i dont know if there is even a rapid fire pierce 3 (which would likely be even more OP).
rapid 3 is very slow. might deal more per hit, but its a dps loss. the same goes for pierce 1 vs 2. pierce 1, from my testing, did more overall dps. but that's in training room and not in battle. you'll run out of pierce 1 quickly if you do that so pierce 2 is the better play. oh yah and pierce 3 has no rapid fire, only pierce 1-2 on narga lbg
I got lucky with a god talisman for bow guns with spare shot 2 recoil down 1 and a 1 slot and my build is currently attack boost 5 spare shot 3 pierce 3 recoil 3 crit boost 2 reload 2 a few free skills and 4 free lv 1 slots
i've seen speedrunners slice the face and pierce the belly, and then i seen pierce face and..still pierce more. so think it depends on angle and distance. if closer and you got a nice shot use slice, if further, use pierce. always pierce belly. i would say the faster speedruns mainly used slicing at beginning of the fight after you flash her, so flash>slice face > she falls > pierce. from there its up to you, most do piercing majority of the rest of the fight.
Great build! Unfortunately, even the strongest builds can't help me with my trash skills T_T Still finishing the run 3x longer while using the same build LMAO
noooo marc. gotta put that practice in i suggest watching speedruns and essentially copying their movement, what parts they hit, how they dodge attacks, etc. was the only way i could even get close to the time i did. for example this guy: ruclips.net/video/rquq8iA5d4M/видео.html
So uh...I made a weird discovery. I used this same build, but with the Heavy Mizutsune Bowgun. And...it wrecks shit. Doesn’t feel as satisfyingly fast, but it hits harder.
nah, slicing needs recoil 3 i think. the reload might be the same case, maybe lv2. also, people are not factoring in TEMPER food meal, which increases recoil, so i think you end up needing lv3 anyhow
i don't have a wex 2 or crit boost lv2 or atk boost 2 charm so i just went with the spare shot one i had. i get lucky a lot of time and it saves time on reloading, altho reload is pretty fast anyhow. ideally rapid up would be the best dmg increase with pierce but that's also hard to build
The endgame it's fine i guess? Rampage is fun if you're multiplayer and narwa is decent fight but i got spoiled by generation's endgame with the deviants
i've seen speedruns use both, no seige, and siege. bottom line is, if a gattling gun or cannon spawn near you, go for them i would say. minmax might be to waste all the ammo and instead of reloading and trying to fire again, just leave and go bow. cuz if you dont the lag time between the reload and reaching full firing speed, and the delayed animation of the rock breaking shortly after, might be a dps loss, vs just using 1 clip, then getting off and using bow. cannons should always use i think.
just means you killed the monster before that time in minutes. so sub 6 would mean took you less than 6 minutes to beat the quest. sub 4 would be under 4 minutes, etc. I would say sub 7-8 is fine for average player. the faster you kill them, the faster/more mats in total you'll get (over time).
from argosy submarines. farming certain items give special materials occasionally. you'll see it on the lower right corner when you go to choose a material to farm. i believe armored bream is on same one as toxic kamuri, which is needed for spio/electrya waist for other builds too.
whoa respect for using the mag bow. why not narga tho? :o but yah, lbg pierce is a nice turn-brain-off while bopping to some music or have stream/podcast on the side and get that grind passively
@@PWARGaming The whole crit meta kinda bores me, all these bois scrambling over weakness exploit talismans. Meanwhile i'm over here with Arachnid HH and volvidon armor para attack/slugger hop online and get 3 para's and 3 knock outs and the monsters can't even leave the area they started in. Yall can keep your narga long swords lol.
i've heard you just need 2, but i think you need 3 if you eat for temper, which increases recoil. temper is a dps boost so yah. if u dont need 3 with temper, than just a noob mistake on my part :p
As much as I love the lbg I still don't understand how people are getting 6 minute times with it on narwa. Using this exact build and using every slicing ammo I had and non stop Pierce 2 rounds I got 10 mins. I can get 6 mins with my meta ass longsword build but not with the thing that's supposed to be broken against this monster.
hmm i think it would be a distance and hitzone problem on your end. aiming with a gun is different than hitting with a melee wpn, some peoples left thumb just isn't up to snuff heh. even with the dmg variant after my ammo up version, i still got consistent sub 7's without trying too hard. i watched like a dozen speedrun videos by various people and tried to imitate what they shot at as best i could, that can be the only advice i can offer to do the same. you could also just be a god at LS :p my melee attempts have been 9-12 minutes. though i haven't used item buffs. are you using demondrug>powder>seed? least seed and maybe drug should be used if killspeed is what you're aiming for.
mines ugly like everyone elses U.U its my recording and filters added from obs/vegas that make it look somewhat decent :p least more saturated then in-game.
pretty sure it does, least for slicing ammo. i tested just marksman alone, and without it (no temper booster either). and without it i got 27-37. while with marksman i got 30-40
Thats what you get for crying about farming Decorations .....doing 1 Monster over and over again ....to hope you get a good rng charm ~.~
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Still better than decorations. A charm is only 1 part of the build. Decorations are many parts of the build. If you don't have the decos you can do nothing. If you don't have the talisman your build may not be the best but it's at least good.
Nope, dude's full of crap. Fkn clickbait. Title is supposed to be sub 16. No way LBG first timers can do sub 6. My first time was 12 minutes then it was me who kept dying.
@@brokenglish Oh ok I havent even completed the quest with this build. Yeah it was my first time touching a gun or a bow. So, did I waste my time collecting those mats for the decos and the armor sets?
Ok now I don't think I want to go with this build now. I never used any of the bowguns before so I'm not confident with this quest. Is doing it with other people faster?
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What melding tier did you get your spare shot level 2 talisman?
@@Ca55per i haven't kept track, but mix of mystery and rebirth. however charm tables seem to be buggy for some, and just not working right in general, so try as one might but they may not even see the talisman they're looking for, or be on a repeated rotation.
supposedly capcom is aware of the issue, but unsure of time to fix it. hopefully next update. you can read more info here: www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunterMeta/comments/mtv2ak/the_charm_tables_have_converged_i_see_into_your/
narwa seems like the best bloodrun jewel farm currently. 3-5 jewels on average. so there's that if you want to hold off on melding.
@@PWARGaming Yeah, I haven't gotten a WE 2, Pierce Up, Ammo Up, Spread Up, or Spare Shot 2 talisman yet at all... let alone with good slots. A spare shot 2 talisman would revolutionize my bowgun gameplay. Edit: Or Rapid Up... I knew I forgot one.
@@Ca55per these just popped up. 2 tables people have mapped out. unfortunately my combination in the video is not on these list so idk what table i'm on, but perhaps you may get a spare shot 2 if you have talismans on either of these tables: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qU8rCYAsZCmF83_YjKBcFIEfotuO6mGucJylNTYcDVc/edit#gid=0
2 recoil down 1 quick reload is enough
If Narwa does the purple lasers she opens up her Thunder sac and exposes her weakspot. So do not shoot her face but her Thuder sac instead.
Nice I've played LBG in every Monster Hunter game since PSP(I do play other weapons too). Glad you finally gave it a shot. Lol
Aim Booster helps shorten critical distance. So you don't need to be a mile away to be in critical distance. The critical distance is super generous with it.
So... To be a mile away with bowgun is a disadvantage? :/
@@stevelleremy1685 Yes. Because there's a few things called deviation and bullet drop-off.
you dont need lvl 3 reload speed or recoil down for the narga lbg with 1 lvl of reload speed you max out your reload speed and 2 lvls of recoil to max it
NO SHOT. Really? awesome, i'll scrounge up a better build then. tho, they're just lv1 slots so it might not be that big a deal. lv3 stun resist i suppose :p
@@PWARGaming The extra recoil and reload is for slicing ammo, which does not cap at 2 and 1 respectively.
@@Ca55per ah, hmm than i suppose its fine as is then. would reload lv2 be fine for slicing or needs max lv3?
@@PWARGaming I'm pretty sure reload 2 is fine to get fastest reload speed for slicing.
Slicing is good when narwa’s weak points are not glowing anymore. So when you start to do white dmg all over the body and even the face. Then switch to slicing ammo on the face. It will do yellow dmg vs where pierce will do white. Also when it’s in this state, para it. So it’s glowing belly will be exposed again and you keep doing dps.
Great Guide !!
Going to use it for my Entry into LBG !! THNX
Great video! This is my first time ever utilizing the LBG as my main weapon!
so 16 minutes was my best run so far with this build
really? lmao
same, no matter how hard i try, no matter if i cart 2 times or 0. My end result always 15 minutes or more...
If you haven't been able to increase your times i recommend just using a plain old crit boost 2, wex 2, attack 4, peirce up and all that its a drastic increase in dps and will help with completion times my build i can get sup 8 minutes each hunt
@@smurphy55656 3 pierce is better than 4attack
@@Plastic_Existence oh no when i say pierce up i just mean in general pierce 3 my bad made it sound misleading
I personally would replace your gloves with rathalos and your legs with rajah with a weakness exploit talisman. This allows enough slotage to get your attack boost to 7 along with if you have a weakness exploit 2 talisman, you will be able to make use of that crit boost on rajang legs.
This is such a good mhr channel bro, by far the most helpful for base rise bums like me. Thanks
Thank you kind sir. Loved the hbg/lbg previous titles and I think I'll go back to them after watching some gameplay!
I love all of your videos for MHR. and I love the fact the you have different builds for hammers that are useful. so thank you and keep it up!
aww hey thanx :3 glad the effort i put into my videos pays off for some people
Great Video, thanks for the tips!!
Me: I don’t wanna use a bow gun, I like getting right in their faces!
BG mains: Turns monster to Swiss cheese as my cart rolls pass them the second time.
Lol
6:10 **Thank you** for putting regimented chapter markers and all the info on screen at the same time; armor, skills, talisman, _and_ gems. So many of these build guides spend 20 minutes babbling and when you bring up the video to double check everything you have to waste time scanning through the video to find the specific parts where they mention the exact items. Or they don't list the gems at all, just the skill screen, so I need to bring out my crystal ball to magically divine which gems go into that list of skills...
Still working my way through the game. Just took a couple runs at Narwa that did not pan out. So found your video
Ur video is so amazing.. Clear and easy to understand
Great vid definitely going to try the set up to farm her but I have learned using BG not to use craft all since the pierce 2 crafts 4 at a time you can craft more then what you would need and waist mats during a hunt
just combine all when you run out of ammo. max ammo pierce 2 is 60 which is devidable by 4. or you can just rid the 2 points in ammo up (2 points for 1 shot is just not worth it imo) and you can craft whenever.
When I tested Wex seemed to underperform on pierce so i dont use that either on narga lbg also my pierce 2 only need 2 recoil 2 reload speed. Aim booster 3 definitely not needed, 2 is okay
Still working my way through the game. Interesting build may actually look into a lbg build later. Right now trying to get to a point to do a charge blade or switch axe part braker build. I got most of the build planed out so far. Just need to get to a point to farm parts.
Damn Narga is a superstar in this game bruh. I mainly used LS and Narga's final upgrade (i haven't fought Narwa yet) is 180 raw damage + good amount of white sharpness + 35% aff + a Lvl 2 deco slot (which fits Quick Sheath deco perfectly) which is kinda disgusting tbh lmao
Rapid fire pierce builds take down everything so easily
There was a ton of good call outs in this vid
Intro was spot on
Iirc, you dont need recoil and reload at 3. The extra point doesnt improve the pierce shots. Also, i think the point for aim booster was so each pierce hit is in critical distance. If you hit at the absolute maximum distance for crit distance, the first hit will only be in crit distance, other hits will hit for lower
I main LBG. 1:23 you can buy a Horipad controller (Ninentdo Official) and set the R2 button to Turbo. Saved me tons of hand fatigue.
I feel like this will still be the best charm farm for most people simply because you fight her in one area. The elder dragons have mats with similar costs, but unless you're killing them before they move to a different area you're just going to take extra time chasing it across the zone.
It's pain in the butt with a hammer user like me, thanks for the Guide.
So I really enjoyed Rise, but honestly with the lack of a suitable end game challenge that makes grinding worth it I've kinda since put in on hold.
BUT it was also my first MH game, so I just picked up World, and have been grinding that till more comes out in Rise. Reallllllly excited to see what they come up with seeing the much more robust end game of World/Iceborn to match the fun faster pace of Rise with the wirebug combo system
Exactly my thoughts as well, i come from mhgu and so on so im not impressed too w the lack of grank lol
@@simonshura9144 historically speaking, G rank is never included in the first release. Prior to World, it was always in a second release of the game (as in the case of Monster Hunter Generations ULTIMATE, and the many games before it). With World, it was released as a DLC expansion in the form of Iceborne, which is likely what they'll do with rise if I were to guess.
"R1 + A" gave me some weird kind of cognitive dissonance
Oh, and it will. I play Hammer, Greatsword and HBG, and every single time I switch to my gloryfied Portable bofors AM (anti monster, get it?) to pound the monsters with rounds of 30 MV of pure justice, I mix up the commands at least 5 times each hunt, for the next 5 hunts, after which, I go back to melee, only to fuck up some more. It’s very funny. Hail HBG btw
Not really what a cognitive dissonance is, but I get the idea
@@waselu7578 hence "some weird kind"
Noice i havent played any gunner weapons since MHFU, finally finally i can try it now
I know nargacuga is more "meta" but I prefer the ibushi lbg as it has rapid pierce 2, rapid spread 2, and rapid shrapnel 2 and holds 2 slicing in a clip default without any armor skills, doesn't hav the best ramp skills granted but I'm fine with increased damage against all flying creatures
I was sort of able to make your set. I still need practice but I did it in 15 minutes. Still better than relying on randoms for 20+ minutes lol I didn’t understands, when is it best to use slicing?
Update: did 11 minutes just now. Totally worth it.
nice! you'll improve as you get more familiar of the best distance for each attack n such. slicing and piercing, depends on positioning and distance. if she's too close, use slicing. if she's in critical range for pierce, use pierce. some attacks a slicing can stick to her as she rotates away from you which would be easier to aim for than using pierce. when she falls, sometimes her arm blocks you from shooting her belly till you move in correct angle to not hit her arms, to which case you could use slicing on her arms as you rotate to a better position to use piercing on her belly. slicing can hit more orange numbers vs parts that piercing can't. its got limited ammo tho, so you tend to have to use both.
i see speedrunners use both, so i recommend using both as well.
@@PWARGaming awesome thanks for the tips! I just got a Wex 2 s2-1-0 talismán farming this way!
@@Imm0rtal49 oh shit hypuuu!
I was specifically searching on google builds for narwa a few days ago! This is perfect!
I have a question though, how do you unlock the dragonator and the wyvernshot early? You did it for example @8:45 but i swear even watching the video i don't get how the rock just breaks offf!
The rocks breaking are scripted; once you fight Narwa a few times you can tell when she's about to break the rocks so you can use the dragonator and wyvernshot respectively :)
EDIT: It has to do with the amount of damage you do to her. After you reach a certain point she breaks each rock.
@@Krissi2917 aaah it makes sense! Thank you!
yah its a dmg thing. the goal for any lbg build you go for against her should be able to make her fall just shortly after you flash her. as it'll speed up that time she moves to the middle. it takes some getting used to to know when she goes, but eventually you'll get the feel for it.
extra tip is when fighting her, slowly rotate to the left(or right), dont just attack in place. this will put you closer to the wyvernshot shot as if she's between you and the wyvernshot adn she goes to the middle she'll do a roar thing and kinda stunlock you slowing your killspeed down.
Good video! Thank you
Honestly lbg isnt the most big brain weapon to use, nor the most complex one.
But I just really like the simplicity and just the fun in going pew pew to the monster. Just something to relax and chill for farming, instead of my greatsword with wich I sweat and swear everysecond of the hunt
i dunno... like... first time i tried this build, it took me 15 minutes to kill her and i died 2 times, then i learn a little, and manage to kill her without dying... in 15 minutes... no matter how good i play i finish this fight in no less than 15 minutes... not in less than 6....
If you want to do bowgun narwa multi's I recommend bringing a buffing HH to increase the damage even further, its like playing with 5 people
yah we had a hh user in a couple hunts on my narwa stream. got some decent times, sub 9, maybe sub 8. i think fastest time was 6'41 with all lbgs or something tho.
The tips are good!
I thought I’d never like guns in this game and even after playing for so many years, it blows my mind that any weapon feels so good to play with, even the ones you’d never see yourself using 😂
Should I put any extensions on the bowgun? The silencer for example?
long range. i briefly mention it when i talk about rampage skill, just before build talk i believe
How did you get a sub 6 bro?!? I have crafted several variations of this set one of them that has spare shot 3, attack boost 4 and 100% crit with crit boost 2. With good spare shot rng my set significantly out-damages the attack boost 4 ammo up set and i’ve fought her like 20 times with LBG and still can’t get a sub 6. My fastest time is 6:17 , you need to be positioned perfectly next to the wyvern shot and dragonator when she goes to the center because if you have to run all the way there it eats up the clock and when she lifts the rocks you get wind blasted further wasting time. I have this fight down to script and still can’t get a sub 6
Edit: I was able to get the sub-6, with good rng and near perfect play (didn’t get hit once) I got a 5:30. I used fanning maneuver often to get the damage buff, I used a 100% crit build with crit boost 2 and spare shot, and brought two palicos with power drum. I absolutely nuked her ass and it was a no-hit run
Hello, where to get those layered armor head gear you are using? Thanks!
That's no layered it's *Rhenoplos Helm S* also layered armor will come for _Amiibo_ exclusives
@@solaireofastora7766 thank you!
Is int rapid up only for bow?
normal up that was for LBG/HBG.
and another rapid fire up that for rapid ammo LBG/HBG.
Do you consistently get these times with this build? I've never touched any of the guns in these games before (playing since Tri) but I need stuff to do while waiting for the update so this may be something I try!!
I'm playing Monster Hunter for 15 years, and my first run with this build against narwa was like 18minutes because I struggled with the new moves and I didn't made a loadout yet. But sub 10 minutes is pretty much garantied when you now the controls.
the 2nd or 3rd try with my build version 1 (with ammo up) i got the sub 6 clear :p i then tried out the 2nd version (with crit boost and wex) and got 2 sub 7's in 3 runs total. i'd say pretty consistent for a total of less than 10 uses with the wpn, and having ZERO prior experience with gunning at all. then again i'm decent at shooter games so maybe that's why i'm doing ok with it.
RNG on some of her moves can make you have a faster/slower clear. Pray XD
@@kupo5430 pretty much. spinning laser move = loss time. if you get hit by the roar on way to wyvern shot/dragonator = loss time. best rng is upside attacks. upright position i tend to use slicing now
Thanks, very helpful, but I'm confused about something. You said switch this switch that, but (I might be wrong, maybe I didn't pay great attention), you've been using pretty much only Pierce Ammo? lol
sometimes narwa rotates weird and makes pierce hard to hit, whereas slicing ammo can get some good dmg in while you reposition. if you dont have aim booster you can't be too close either for piercing, and sometimes she flies towards you. for the run i mainly use piercing but general advice is use both, as speedrunners mix in both as well. example if narwa has her tail in front of you, instead of using pierce which will likely not hit good dmg, use slicing on the tip of her tail, which does max dmg still, WHILE rotating to a better position, if that makes sense.
@@PWARGaming ohhhhh, thanks
Nice video ty
I was under the impression that "Normal/Rapid Up" only applied to Bow, while "Rapid Fire Up" applied to the bowguns? Do they both apply to bowguns? If so, do they stack?
the first is bow only yah. there is no rapid shot for example for gun. while bowgun has normal shots, they're usually kinda sucky so no one builds them often. rapid "fire" up is specifically for the rapid fire ammo setting that some bowguns have, like narga for its pierce shots, which you can tell by the icons from looking at ammo.
if you had lets say, normal shot with rapid fire up, then both would stack i imagine.
Does someone know why my damage numbers are white instead of yellow even if I'm shooting to her weak spots? The only time where I see yellow numbers is when I shoot the ball sack. (I'm pretty much using the exact same build)
Well this would have been useful 2 weeks back... I feel content with my charm-farm having netted me 1 WEX 2, wirebug whisperer 2, 2-0-0 talsiman and one WEX 2, speed sharpening 1, 1-1-0 talisman. Also the endgame is a bit horrid I feel, as there really isn't enough variety for me to keep playing for long periods of times, just 2-3 challenging event-style quests would have gone a long way to keep me engaged, I think, but now all I do is waiting for the update
I follow your build excactly the same, but why my damage is only around 7-9? I saw you hit narwa in the head is about 10-12. Any sugest?
i buff at start. so mega demon drug, demon powder, and might seed. i also eat for temper, booster, and marksman with dango ticket for 100% success, like i recommended. if you bring cat with go-fight win, you also get atk increase from them occasionally.
may i ask, why dont you use pierce ammo 3?
Ive already done 70 Something of this with the other lbg build and same, i never played lbg before. Its so easy with that. But why take pierce 2 over 3? Is there a reason?
rapid fire pierce 2. It just pumps out the damage like nobody's business. i dont know if there is even a rapid fire pierce 3 (which would likely be even more OP).
rapid 3 is very slow. might deal more per hit, but its a dps loss. the same goes for pierce 1 vs 2. pierce 1, from my testing, did more overall dps. but that's in training room and not in battle. you'll run out of pierce 1 quickly if you do that so pierce 2 is the better play. oh yah and pierce 3 has no rapid fire, only pierce 1-2 on narga lbg
i was happy to finally beat narwa using LBG at less than 15 mins then i saw this xD
weeb stick user since MHFU
I got lucky with a god talisman for bow guns with spare shot 2 recoil down 1 and a 1 slot and my build is currently attack boost 5 spare shot 3 pierce 3 recoil 3 crit boost 2 reload 2 a few free skills and 4 free lv 1 slots
nicee, sounds tasty. i would try to sneak in some crit so CB is more consistent. latent power or max might should be possible with that setup.
I got a rapid fire up charm and im running a similar build without spare nor ammo up and i got a 7:15, i may try this build and see how it goes
What tier of melding did you get the rapid fire up talisman?
@@Ca55per the second to last one, 5 charms per meld
Thanks Guy ! How did you get Spare shot lvl 3 ?
my charm was a spare shot lv2 with divine blessing, no slots. without spare shot i would go with a dmg version with wex and crit boost.
what armour set searcher do you use?
mhrise.wiki-db.com/sim/?hl=en
I wouldn't even call this an end game grind compared to generations ultimate. jesus christ that game is massive. still though, it is a lot of fun.
I've farmed 78 Nargas just trying to get a single medulla. Im bout to give up and say fuck this gun lol
Have you checked how to get it? I think you need to break the back or something
Best way is to cut the tail and slay it. Shouldn't take much more than 5 hunts to get one:
Tail carves 12%
Body carves 7%
Capture 3%
Target Reward 5%
@@randymarsh9247 lmao that's what I've been doing except it still took 10 hunts to get a medulla
I was confused by how you phrased it, when is slicing better and when is pierce better vs narwa?
i've seen speedrunners slice the face and pierce the belly, and then i seen pierce face and..still pierce more. so think it depends on angle and distance. if closer and you got a nice shot use slice, if further, use pierce. always pierce belly. i would say the faster speedruns mainly used slicing at beginning of the fight after you flash her, so flash>slice face > she falls > pierce. from there its up to you, most do piercing majority of the rest of the fight.
I love you, I find but hard using hh always above 10min
What's your silkbind skills?
no rapid fire up as well or did i miss it?
when do you use slice and when pierce?
how do you make your graphic so fancy and so smooth...
Great build! Unfortunately, even the strongest builds can't help me with my trash skills T_T Still finishing the run 3x longer while using the same build LMAO
noooo marc. gotta put that practice in i suggest watching speedruns and essentially copying their movement, what parts they hit, how they dodge attacks, etc. was the only way i could even get close to the time i did. for example this guy: ruclips.net/video/rquq8iA5d4M/видео.html
can you use this build for other monsters?
So uh...I made a weird discovery.
I used this same build, but with the Heavy Mizutsune Bowgun. And...it wrecks shit. Doesn’t feel as satisfyingly fast, but it hits harder.
I like the new shrapnel ammo but it does seem pierce is better atm
This would definitely make my life easier as i have only played with duel blades & yet to start my other main bow its a long fight with db’s 😂
You only need 2 recoil down and 1 in reload to max Pierce ammo
nah, slicing needs recoil 3 i think. the reload might be the same case, maybe lv2. also, people are not factoring in TEMPER food meal, which increases recoil, so i think you end up needing lv3 anyhow
I don't think spare shot is that necessary for a pierce LV2 build, cause like you have over 400 rounds to fire in a single mission...
i don't have a wex 2 or crit boost lv2 or atk boost 2 charm so i just went with the spare shot one i had. i get lucky a lot of time and it saves time on reloading, altho reload is pretty fast anyhow. ideally rapid up would be the best dmg increase with pierce but that's also hard to build
The endgame it's fine i guess?
Rampage is fun if you're multiplayer and narwa is decent fight but i got spoiled by generation's endgame with the deviants
You know as much as this is a great video
Imma just bonk this elder dragon
How do you get that head gear?
you should carry some honey in your loadouts so you can craft some hi potions too
It can be nice if you use a lot or when learning a monster but it's not necessary when you've learned their patterns and get hit less.
ah ive been using something very similar but my best time has been 6:03 solo, forgot to gem in reload speed lol. wish id done that before 170 runs XD.
So is it faster to do this then using the siege weapons
Or should you still alternate
i've seen speedruns use both, no seige, and siege. bottom line is, if a gattling gun or cannon spawn near you, go for them i would say. minmax might be to waste all the ammo and instead of reloading and trying to fire again, just leave and go bow. cuz if you dont the lag time between the reload and reaching full firing speed, and the delayed animation of the rock breaking shortly after, might be a dps loss, vs just using 1 clip, then getting off and using bow. cannons should always use i think.
their is a setting so you dont have to hold zl all the time. much easier
What setting? I was looking for it but couldn't find it (I've never used bowgun before just bow)
@@yoshikagekira1719 look harder, you really expect people to spoonfeed you something that trivial?
@@schnibist calm dafuq down dude
@@schnibist I didn't see it so maybe it's labeled as something I'm not familiar with? I'm not a gunner, never have been.
@@yoshikagekira1719 okay I give up, it's in the camera options
noob question what is a sub-6? this is my 1st full MH game so idk all the jargons...
just means you killed the monster before that time in minutes. so sub 6 would mean took you less than 6 minutes to beat the quest. sub 4 would be under 4 minutes, etc. I would say sub 7-8 is fine for average player. the faster you kill them, the faster/more mats in total you'll get (over time).
@@PWARGaming thanks for the info...
Anyone able to tell me what the BGM is bc it sounds so nice
Where does the armored bream come from? I need it still for the valk set qwq
from argosy submarines. farming certain items give special materials occasionally. you'll see it on the lower right corner when you go to choose a material to farm. i believe armored bream is on same one as toxic kamuri, which is needed for spio/electrya waist for other builds too.
Definitely gonna try this, looks very auto pilot. I can sub 5 with blast boost magna bow but I have to give it my all every time.
whoa respect for using the mag bow. why not narga tho? :o but yah, lbg pierce is a nice turn-brain-off while bopping to some music or have stream/podcast on the side and get that grind passively
@@PWARGaming The whole crit meta kinda bores me, all these bois scrambling over weakness exploit talismans. Meanwhile i'm over here with Arachnid HH and volvidon armor para attack/slugger hop online and get 3 para's and 3 knock outs and the monsters can't even leave the area they started in. Yall can keep your narga long swords lol.
i can NOT wait for the update
Well you have to 😕
Although i get wex2 ab2 no slot
I still want spareshot
Why you need 3 levels of recoil down ?
i've heard you just need 2, but i think you need 3 if you eat for temper, which increases recoil. temper is a dps boost so yah. if u dont need 3 with temper, than just a noob mistake on my part :p
How do you get Sub-6 runs on Narwa? Best I can get is sub-11
He literally explained how LOL
As much as I love the lbg I still don't understand how people are getting 6 minute times with it on narwa. Using this exact build and using every slicing ammo I had and non stop Pierce 2 rounds I got 10 mins. I can get 6 mins with my meta ass longsword build but not with the thing that's supposed to be broken against this monster.
hmm i think it would be a distance and hitzone problem on your end. aiming with a gun is different than hitting with a melee wpn, some peoples left thumb just isn't up to snuff heh. even with the dmg variant after my ammo up version, i still got consistent sub 7's without trying too hard. i watched like a dozen speedrun videos by various people and tried to imitate what they shot at as best i could, that can be the only advice i can offer to do the same.
you could also just be a god at LS :p my melee attempts have been 9-12 minutes. though i haven't used item buffs. are you using demondrug>powder>seed? least seed and maybe drug should be used if killspeed is what you're aiming for.
its all about positioning, if you're not in that "sweet spot" its seriosly the difference between 5-10 minutes.
Ngl i might just buy the switch for that one game
Bro why is your game so pretty??
mines ugly like everyone elses U.U its my recording and filters added from obs/vegas that make it look somewhat decent :p least more saturated then in-game.
@@PWARGaming i see 😔 thank you
Hmm something i am missing. My record is at 12 minutes.
It's bad enough for the charms, but the decos are the worst part lmso
do you want to cry. yes i do
Meta bulid for bow plz
Does Dango Marksman works on LBG's? anyone?
pretty sure it does, least for slicing ammo. i tested just marksman alone, and without it (no temper booster either). and without it i got 27-37. while with marksman i got 30-40
@@PWARGaming thanks man!
i did it with this build, it took me 30min :/
Thats what you get for crying about farming Decorations .....doing 1 Monster over and over again ....to hope you get a good rng charm ~.~
Still better than decorations. A charm is only 1 part of the build. Decorations are many parts of the build. If you don't have the decos you can do nothing. If you don't have the talisman your build may not be the best but it's at least good.
I think I'm the only one here who failed the quest with this build...
Nope, dude's full of crap. Fkn clickbait. Title is supposed to be sub 16. No way LBG first timers can do sub 6. My first time was 12 minutes then it was me who kept dying.
@@brokenglish Oh ok I havent even completed the quest with this build. Yeah it was my first time touching a gun or a bow. So, did I waste my time collecting those mats for the decos and the armor sets?
@@cutiegwen5195 maybe one day it'll come in handy...
@@brokenglish Ok
Ok now I don't think I want to go with this build now. I never used any of the bowguns before so I'm not confident with this quest. Is doing it with other people faster?