The story behind Chopin's most UNDERRATED Piece

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @federicojulian3165
    @federicojulian3165 5 дней назад +12

    Beautiful video! It's really a shame we don't hear about this work much often, truly a hidden gem. Keep up the good work, bro!

  • @dunkleosteus430
    @dunkleosteus430 5 дней назад +26

    I remember reading that this was one of the pieces he was really proud of, which wasn't common for him.

    • @dunkleosteus430
      @dunkleosteus430 5 дней назад +2

      Oh, I was in the first minute of the video when I commented this, looks like you covered it.

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  5 дней назад

      ​@@dunkleosteus430I did ahahaha

  • @laneotaku7855
    @laneotaku7855 5 дней назад +28

    That piece is crazy, maybe it's not recognized by it's high difficult level

    • @classicallpvault
      @classicallpvault 4 дня назад +4

      That didn't stop the Hammerklavier sonata, Gaspard de la Nuit, the Paganini Variations, or several of the late and barely tonal Scriabin sonatas from becoming standard repertoire and all these works are substantially more difficult. Chopin's 3rd piano sonata is also harder yet also one of his most widely recorded and performed works.

  • @XPKpianist
    @XPKpianist 5 дней назад +8

    It’s one hell of a piece. Definitely one of the hardest solo pieces along with Op.2

  • @thisismoyukhsworld2022
    @thisismoyukhsworld2022 5 дней назад +9

    This piece is said to be revived by the "Spanish Chopin", aka Enrique Granados. In fact Granados Op 46 is also Allegro de Concierto, thus dedicated to Chopin.

    • @Xantares2003
      @Xantares2003 5 дней назад +1

      I like Granados, and both "op 46"s

  • @thegreenpianist7683
    @thegreenpianist7683 5 дней назад +8

    This was thought to be the first movement of a concerto that he ultimately decided not to go through with. It's also low-key one of the most, if not the most difficult Chopin piece.

  • @Turunflo
    @Turunflo 3 дня назад

    Thanks you. This and Op. 52 are my favorites pieces of all time. This pieces is almost jazz. I love this one. Is like an orchestra. I love to play the Op. 46 :D It deserves everything. I actually think this is the hardest pieces by Chopin. Those bars with rapid descending thirds and stuff are insane and pulling out the melody line over a second voice, like the Op. 10 No. 3, having that distance between notes is crazy.
    Btw, listen Arrau playing this. Is soooooo -
    6:18 is literally one of my favorite moments in music history.

  • @Martill3
    @Martill3 5 дней назад +7

    Great video! There is also a Neuhaus recording that I like a lot.

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  5 дней назад +3

      @@Martill3 thanks! I'll check it out

  • @chainuser1774
    @chainuser1774 5 дней назад +1

    Its an amazing piece. The theme that starts around the 4 min mark is one of Chopins most beautiful moments. Crazy how little appreciated Allegro De Concert is.

  • @RhodesyYT
    @RhodesyYT 5 дней назад +6

    YES THE ALLEGRO DE CONCERT WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

  • @aleksanderkalicki5518
    @aleksanderkalicki5518 5 дней назад +1

    Great video! I look forward to watching other videos like this one.

  • @littlesloth1384
    @littlesloth1384 5 дней назад +10

    I've been a Chopin listener for over a decade and I thought I know all of his pieces... until now. Thank you for sharing!

    • @yuiop987
      @yuiop987 5 дней назад +1

      Yes, thought I knew all his pieces...

    • @MaslAlek
      @MaslAlek Час назад

      You should check version played by Michael Ponti with orchestration. Amazing.

  • @PianistDanielFritzen
    @PianistDanielFritzen 3 дня назад +1

    Well, Chopin's quote that he was going to perform it in "free Warsow" only testifies to the heroic character of its March-like theme.

  • @classicallpvault
    @classicallpvault 4 дня назад +1

    One of my favourite Chopin works, and one which I've played myself many years ago. It's not due to its difficulty level that this is largely ignored as the 2nd and 3rd piano sonatas are both more difficult. This is probably somewhere around the level of Ballade no.4 or the Polonaise-Fantaisie (the latter of which I've also learned) and they're some of his most widely performed works. It's very cheerful in nature but never gets frivolous and contains some very impressive displays of virtuoso firework.
    Far harder pieces on the standard repertoire are recorded umpteen times. Take Schumann's Symphonic Etudes, Brahms' Paganini Variations, the Hammerklavier Sonata and the Diabelli Variations by Beethoven, Schubert's Wanderer-Fantasie etc. Or probably the most scary standard repertoire work of them all, Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit. Even plenty of second rate pianists have done CD recordings of these works.

  • @林柏辰-m7i
    @林柏辰-m7i 5 дней назад +2

    Actually I think every work by Chopin is sublime
    Maybe not as great as his most greatest works
    But they deserve to be read and play

  • @EggMCMUFFIN-e4l
    @EggMCMUFFIN-e4l 5 дней назад +2

    Chopin was musically superior than any other of his time. He didn’t need any other instrument as he mastered the piano as an instrument

  • @samaritan29
    @samaritan29 5 дней назад +6

    please do a video on his cello sonata, his late period masterpiece that is seldom talked about on YT.

    • @Dylan_1344
      @Dylan_1344 5 дней назад

      It’s not a bad piece, I have thought about playing it but just like his piano sonatas, they’re are so musically complicated

  • @A_Random_Pianist
    @A_Random_Pianist 5 дней назад +1

    Brian Ganz’s performance is also lovely!

    • @Xantares2003
      @Xantares2003 5 дней назад +1

      He plays with such passion

  • @timlaze1149
    @timlaze1149 День назад

    It's better that way, kept in the shadows. Good music can only be recognized by few ears, and even less well understood by the more blessed ones

  • @parmenioboronat37
    @parmenioboronat37 4 дня назад

    This one feels like a 'I am making sure you have played my whole set of études' piece.

  • @Iko_onthedl
    @Iko_onthedl 2 часа назад

    bro wrote a Concierto a la Polonaise. Img three orchestral mvmts of this. Someone should loki colab with Garrick Ohlsson and "complete" it

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 5 дней назад +1

    very cool

  • @Xantares2003
    @Xantares2003 5 дней назад

    I always thought why this piece is so underrated, but it's so difficult tho.

  • @Camille_Hargraves
    @Camille_Hargraves 5 дней назад

    Wow, I really hear there a background orchestra sometimes in my head. Maybe I'll make a real orchestration, but i'm a bit bad at this stuff I think

  • @Farahmand1010
    @Farahmand1010 4 дня назад +1

    Ce n'est pas un grand chef-d'œuvre, tout simplement.

  • @SpaghettiToaster
    @SpaghettiToaster 5 дней назад

    In my opinion, op. 2 is his most underrated piece, although this one is a close second.

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  5 дней назад +1

      I wouldn't say that... At Chopin time Op 2 was the piece that really started Chopin career.
      After hearing it Robert Schumann said the famous words "Hats off gentlemen, a genius!"

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 4 дня назад

      @@Alessandro.h Yes, that was then, but nowadays nobody really knows it and it is rarely played.

  • @MicheleAngeliniTenor
    @MicheleAngeliniTenor 5 дней назад

    Glad someone discusses this great piece...but please, so many mispronounced words! "de concert" is in French, "concerto" has a ch sound and not an s, Polish and polish are not the same, and even Ashkenazy was not pronounced correctly, among others.

  • @VittoKui
    @VittoKui 5 дней назад +5

    Ballade 3 is so underrated also

    • @jacobgerardy630
      @jacobgerardy630 5 дней назад

      Horowitz's interpretation is absolutely amazing. Rarely can you make Chopin sound "thunderous" appropriately, and he absolutely did

  • @kimsahl8555
    @kimsahl8555 4 дня назад

    Out of mastery...

  • @Hjominbonrun
    @Hjominbonrun 5 дней назад

    Sounds like Beethoven.

  • @miguelisaurusbruh1158
    @miguelisaurusbruh1158 5 дней назад +2

    Neew suuub

  • @bassodivo1
    @bassodivo1 5 дней назад +2

    Its Chopins most boring unmemorable peice

    • @loouuiisssss296
      @loouuiisssss296 3 дня назад

      Then explain why it is memorable to me😂

  • @robertgreene2684
    @robertgreene2684 5 дней назад +3

    Conserto? What is this? Ballade pronounced as ballad?

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt 5 дней назад

      Yeah the pronunciation is off-putting. It doesn't make any sense except in French

    • @seheyt
      @seheyt 5 дней назад +1

      Ah. It's likely an automated voice read. It's also a "polish composer" instead of "Polish composer" at 2:14

    • @ik-now178
      @ik-now178 5 дней назад

      voice is ai generated

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  5 дней назад

      ​@@seheytAhaha I didn't even notice that one about Polish composer
      Anyway yes, the AI voice has some really strange pronunciation sometimes

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  5 дней назад

      Anyway, I find that conserto is alright, it's just the english pronunciation...
      I am Italian, and a looot of other italian therms are mispronounced by even great pianists and important figures, and I don't think that's annoying... Not everyone speaks Italian.

  • @Mr.Dziej72
    @Mr.Dziej72 4 дня назад

    Great information -- terrible AI voice/pronunciation.

  • @bifeldman
    @bifeldman 5 дней назад +6

    The narration must be AI generated.

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  5 дней назад

      It is not, the voice is AI but the narration is 100% human

    • @mbashirov1
      @mbashirov1 4 дня назад

      @@Alessandro.hwhat do you mean the voice is AI but the narration is human, they’d mean the same here. Do you mean the text is written by a human?

    • @Alessandro.h
      @Alessandro.h  4 дня назад +1

      @@mbashirov1 yep, I mean the text is written by human