This man is right on the money I do everything that he does preventative maintenance is the key to a reliable vehicle. I also have three Hondas. My cars all go high miles with very few problems. I have a 2007 Honda fit sport with 260,000 miles on it now it’s still very reliable and everything thing works as it should. Still drives like a brand new car. Goes through about a half a quart of oil between oil changes still has no leaks anywhere on engine or transmission.
But you’re spending more on maintenance. It all balances out. I’d rather maintain it less, get less use out of it, and get newer cars more often. I don’t need my car going to 260K.
Great video! I agree with you. 2018 Honda Civic EX-Hs with CVT. Oil changed every 5,000 miles and CVT fluid changed at 30,000. 46,000 miles on her now.
Totally agree with you. My ‘08 Accord 2.4L has 353,000 miles and I have no engine or transmission issues whatsoever. I change tranny fluid change every 30,000 miles. Once I get to 400,000 miles I might change to every 25,000 miles on transmission oil change. Engine oil change is 5,000 mile change with Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w-20. Purolator Boss filter. Going to 500,000 miles
In this case I don’t have a Honda - have a Toyota - but I highly rate your approach to maintenance and inspection and general advice and I learn something valuable every video. Thank you. Wish I lived nearer to you. Northumberland is a fair hike!
I go to school and work for Honda in Florida and all your recommendations are the same we recommend at a lot of Honda and Acura dealers in south Florida. We also do video inspection for the customers so they can see what us technicians see when running a multipoint inspection.
That’s a bad Honda Dealership. The one I got to tells me to change the transmission fluid every 25k-30k miles to change my transmission fluid. Even the manual says to change it at 25k
I've never seen Honda recommend meaning the manufacturer for the transmission fluid to be changed at 25,000 me please State the name model year of that vehicle so I can look that up
@@supertec2023 2020 Honda Civic. Look at page 550 of the owner’s Manual. Along with the maintenance minders under the asterisk section it clearly states to replace the transmission fluid at 25k miles if certain conditions such as low speed driving or mountain driving is frequent.
@@supertec2023 That's the recommendation for driving in mountainous areas at low speeds. It's the combination that matters. It's not just driving in the mountains or just low speeds but the combination of the two that causes higher transmission temperatures and requires more frequent fluid changes. If that doesn't apply to you then 25K is probably too soon for your specific driving conditions.
@@supertec202323 hrv sport 2wd it says under normal operation 25k is what’s recommended but if you drive in harsh conditions. Hilly , dusty and muddy or snow 15k is recommended. I live in a harsh climate and I went 25k for the first interval to see what the fluid looked like. Nothing on the magnet but the guild was filthy I’m doing every 4th oil change now so 20k
My wife once went to the dealer for an oil change and was told she needed new wiper blades after I changed her wiper blades literally that same week with brand new top of the line Bosch blades 😂
It happened with me with a cabin filter. Replaced it myself with new oem couple of days before maintenance apt at dealership and they recommended to watch out for dirty cabin filter that should be replaced soon. Did not go back to them!
Same thing happened to my wife last week. She was took her Tiguan in for service. Told her she needed new wipers, air filter, cabin filter, rear brakes and spark plugs. Total $1600. I told them just do the oil change. I told them I replaced the wipers 2 weeks ago and I checked the air filter and it was in goods condition. Monkeys is what they are.
At the end of the day everything comes down to be an educated car owner. People refuse to read the owners manual and learn how to do simple preventive maintenance. Great video btw.
I have a few Hondas in my stable. I just put new Koni shocks on the front of my 01 Prelude the other day in my garage. It was a lot cheaper than getting a shop to do it,easier than I thought but it’s a drag doing it on the ground and not on a lift, I still have to do the rears as well. I like the older cars I have as they are easier to work on. Greetings from British Columbia 😊
I will tell you this much, hydrocarbon chemistry hasn't changed. Molecular oxygen is still highly electronegative and it will transfer electrons and oxidize carbon atoms and create a series of radical reactions. In other words, heat plus oxidizers and containments are still present.
Im in Canada...oil change every 8000km (4971 miles) Honda CRV owner...2.4 litre N/A motor & last year of the 5 speed transmission. Im keeping it forever.
A Canadian here as well, Change oil every 6 months when I change the snow tires. May and November! Did the AT and Spark Plugs on my Camry at 130,000km and air and cabin filters every 2 years.
Here here. I did my own full maintenance as well. I change my oil and transmission and differential oil. And radiator coolant change. I still have my brake fluid to change. All my brakes are inspected and/or changed after 5 years of driving. I did my oil and filter change every 3 - 5,000 miles due to the oil dilution problem on my CRV
Excellent advice. I own a 2017 honda CRV. I change my own oil every 4000 miles. Cvt fluid once each year and differential fluid once a year. Car runs like brand new.
My last maintenance at a Honda dealership was when my Pilot had 22,000 miles on it to get the oil changed. The service person came out with $700.00 in recommended work to be done. The first item on the list was to replace the cabin filter and vacuum out the fan area for $180 I said no to everything and replaced and vacuumed for $12 And I have not gone back.
Awesome Video. I am a believer in everything you said. What's going on is they are hoping that after the older crowd goes away they can stop having vehicles go 317000 miles like my 2012 Honda Ridgeline. I am 63 and it always amazes me how many young people who completely accept these crazy long oil changes. Many don't even know how to check their oil. I really believe they don't want vehicles to last as long as the older Hondas and Toyotas so you will have to buy a new one.
We bought a new 2019 HR/V LX in May 2020. My interval for a drain/refill on the CVT fluid is 20,000 miles. I've already done one. Additionally, upon the first oil change, I started using Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil.
Thank you, couldn't have came out during a better time. I just purchased my 2024 accord last night. Question, so for the Accord EX 1.5, my dealer recommended 87 octaine. I was confused because I'm fairly certain it's 91. And I feel you on the topic of trust when it comes to dealers
87 octane for a Honda accord ex 1.5 I have the 2020 accord exl. I've heard some people recommend higher octane because it helps with potential head gasket problems.
@jimbike8064 thanks. Yeah, it seems like that's what a lot of others have been saying, and also sticking to a consistent fuel station when possible . I think I'm going to use 91, and use Chevron since it's near me
@@LTGONZ0 I heard Ahmd from the Car Care Nut channel say that...try to stick with 1 brand. Had never heard that before. Of course it should always be a top tier gasoline, which Chevron is. I use Shell 95% of the time. Only something else in a pinch. I'm at 52,000 miles on my Accord. No problems, knock wood.
In an online forum I found, a Honda technician in Japan confirmed that all Honda cars required scheduled transmission fluid flush. No exception. No such thing as life-time transmission fluid with Honda.
In South ease Asia, Honda own these dealers, they replace filters and fluid because if the transmission fail, Honda will replace it with loss. BTW it's unlimited mileage with 8 years warranty.
In Asia, the transmission service interval is 37,500 miles and by research the Honda ATF is high quality Group III base oil which required schedule service. For Group VI PAO base ATF will last 60,000 miles often in European cars but never lifetime.
Great info-My 2008 Ridgeline has only been dealer serviced and has 304K on it. They do everything you do, only thing I have not done are the struts, still original and truck drives the same as new
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience! I have found your channel to be very informative! Also, it is very rare that a shop has loaner cars for its customers. That definitely elevates your shop and I'm sure your customers appreciate that courtesy.
Same with the newer Toyota vehicles with these long oil change intervals. I get my oil change done very 5,000 miles or 6 months whichever comes first. I get it done at an independent garage.
I wish we had honest guys like you here in the UK. The wife has a 2020 Mazda 2 and just been caught out on the annual MOT check at the main dealer. It was OK when she took it in (I checked beforehand as I do regularly) but got stung when she went to collect. 😮
I believe that the main problem is customers going with cheap oil and filters. I'm with the camp that follows the maintenance minder but use high quality oil and filters. I have a 130K miles odyssey that follows the built in maintenance minder which is well known for long intervals between oil changes. No issues with oil consumption or anything related. I seen oil analysis done on Hondas that follow the MM recommendation and all metrics are within range. 🤷♂ Will continue to follow the MM no matter what in my new Acura too.
Yeah, his "guarantee" for engine problems by 200K if you go 10K is false. I follow the MM which is typically 10K and my '09 Civic has 320K without issues. I use a full synthetic and burn about 1.5qt between MM changes.
I agree. I own a 2013 Accord EX w/CVT which I bought in 2017 and it had 20k mi. Years later, when I had added 50k to the odometer, I was trying to figure out when to change the CVT fluid. There was no maintenance schedule in the manuals so I called a Honda dealer and asked. I ended up calling several because they weren't too clear on when to do this, nor did they seem to agree with other dealerships' answers. I was given 30k, 50k, 60-100k so I finally asked my mechanic, who I have used for 20 years, and he said he would do it at 80k. So .. at 80k he did a flush for me. The only thing that worries me is should we have changed the fluid, rather than doing a flush? I've heard the machines they use can cause damage. This was 2 years ago, and I have 100k now. So I'm guessing no damage was done but for next time should I change or flush?
What concerns most people with the verbiage "flush" is not really a problem any more. Most shops either do a drain and fill or use a machine for a fluid exchange. Either way has its place.
Great advice! What If your car sits or just doesn’t even hit 5k miles easily? Would you recommend changing the oil every 6 months instead? I have a ‘20 Accord and I’m worried I’m not driving it enough and the oil may go bad over time.
I’m in the same boat as you, I’m barely at 2600 miles since July 15 2023, 2018 accord sport 1.5 CVT, the maintenance minder came on last month, I will be changing the oil soon, honda says not to go past the 1 year mark for vehicles that aren’t driven much, just replace it at the one year mark.
I took my Ridgeline into the dealer for a “free oil change” and they told me I needed new brake pads and rotors. I checked and they had plenty of life left. Two years later I still have 20% of the pad life left according to an honest shop. Just had them check yesterday.
Really good advice being given here - this is how I look after our family's cars. Spending money on maintenance really saves you money in the long run and is critical if you plan on keeping your car a long time. There is no such thing as "lifetime" oil . . . if you don't change it the "life" of the transmission will be severely reduced (run away as fast as you can from anyone claiming otherwise). Change transmission oil at least every 50,000 miles with normal automatic gearboxes and more frequently with crappy CVT's - this is way cheaper than paying for a new transmission - a colleague of mine just had to replace the CVT in his Nissan and it was not a particularly high mileage car. I own a BMW in which the service manual recommends 12,000 mile oil change intervals which to me, as a mechanical engineer is asinine and simply a way to make the maintenance costs seem lower (at least until the engine coughs up is crank bearings). I reduced that interval interval by half. Air filters and cabin filters . . . every 18 - 24 months is usually okay and if you buy decent aftermarket parts from reputable parts companies these particular parts are not expensive and very easy to change yourself so even if you want to do it every 12 months its not going to break the bank.
50k miles is very early. Most basic autos can go to 100k no problems. How are things getting higher maintenance? Should be the opposite. Bad transmissions, bad fluid, or both?
Agree with everything you said beside the struts. Replace those when they need to be replaced. Not at an interval. Newer Honda V6 engines still have timing belt
Good information and clearly right on the money. Your video outlines all the important schedules for maintenance I’m very grateful there’s still a few mechanics and business that are working hard to educate people about car maintenance. I’m a little surprised that you left the Honda dealership with a maintenance agreement but they can be persuasive you just got caught up in the moment. You should get a couple of magnetic sign’s and cover up your own wrap with a feed store sign or something innocuous so any casual observer might not recognize your car in the dealership quick lube for service.
Haha..I bought it from a buddy of mine and he actually gets in a little trouble from management if he doesn't sell a maintenance package or extended warranty. He made it work within what I was willing to pay him for the car.
We work on our Honda/Acura vehicles and maintain them religiously. This is especially true when it comes to the transmissions. We do a simple drain and fill once a year. This keeps our CVT, 5, 6, 9, & 10 speed transmissions very happy.
Transmission fluid for a CVT should be changed, but how about a transmission with clutches? As the transmission gets older, i believe keeping the same fluid is more beneficial, is it not? So that the clutch debris in the fluid can assist the worn out clutch to better engage and not slip.
For a normal transmission it is best to drain and fill the transmission. This keeps about half the old fluid with debris in it. This gives you a good compromise of getting some clean fluid in and still keeping enough of the debris.
About the CVT transmission. I had a 2014 amAccord with a CVT and the Honda dealership recomended changing it evey 30k miles (if I remember corectly). I changed it three times while I had the car. I bought it with around 35k miles on it and the previous owner had changed it at 30k miles. Sold the car with 126k miles on it and the transmission was as smooth as the first time I drove it. So, yeah. Change your CVT fluids.
Toyota had an issue with piston design until about 2015 which was causing oil issues with the 10k mi oil changes, but this was since fixed. Other brands may not have caught it so early, hence the prevalence of problems with 10k mi oil change intervals. It was after the change to low tension piston rings where fuel could blow by and dilute the oil near where the rods connect. I know this affected some Audis until at least 2017 maybe longer too.
I will only use Eneos brand for my '22 Civic Sport for its engine oil and CVT fluid. This brand is OEM for most Japanese cars. I find their engine oil lasting up to 6000 miles, and their CVT fluid still looks good after 30,000 miles but I change it before it reaches 40,000 miles with new CVT filters, pan gasket and o-ring seals in the CVT cooler housing.
10,000 miles or one year oil change intervals have been working well for me. I have been using Mobil 1 0w 20 and a Mobil 1 oil filter in my 2012 Civic's R18. My driving until 2023 was mostly highway miles. I have been putting less than 3,000 miles a year on since 2023.
Very good information, purchased a 2017 Honda Accord Sport and plan on keeping it for a long time, it is ABSOLUTLEY insane for Honda and the dealships to recommend 10k oil changes and state the CVT transmission fluid as LIFETIME. This is totally wrong, most Honda vehicles use a very thin engine oil, 0-20 which as stated in the video breaks down in a much shorter time. It is IMPERATIVE that you stick to a 5k oil change schedule even with full synthetic oil and change your CVT transmission fluid every 30K, and ONLY use the Honda HCF-2 CVT transmission fluid.This will save you in the long run from huge costly repairs, I am just blown away the Honda dealerships/manufacturer would recommend such intervals, sounds to me like they want you to go by their intervals and make lots of $$$$
I have a 2017 honda accord sport also, I do all my own maintenance, penzoil ultra platinum every 3,000 oem transmission fluid every 30,000 wix filters all around.
I have found 0w-20 to be robust in NA applications. Definitely not taking it to 10k miles but when I have it tested at 5k it definitely has some life in it.
I am in New Zealand and I change my Honda Accord cabin filter every 20 to 30k kms. The NZ Honda recommend new spark plugs every 100k kms. We have found Honda wheel bearings only last 90 to 170k kms. I also found alternator and starter motor both needed to be replaced around 160 to 220 kms and it's common with 2.4 Honda Accord.... Just thought I would share my experience....
In Africa Ghana where I live with most untarred roads, I mostly change cabin filters & the Air elements every 5000km, sometimes every other oil servicing.
I do my every 25 thousand miles on my Honda Civic CVT fluid, 5 5,000 miles on engine oil! Serpentine belt at 90k miles now it is 99k miles have zero issues!
I love this . Its worth knowing, GOD bless you Chief
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If I was anywhere near Utah I would be bringing my vehicles to you every time. Preventative maintenance is the way to go. Regardless if it's cars, trucks, motorcycles, boats, etc. A lot of it depends on what climate you live in as well.
For Honda suspension components, do you use aftermarket or OEM? I would be interested to see a video on how you guys decide what you decide when to use aftermarket parts.
Thank you. I have a 22 accord sport 1.5lT I bought new and I worry about the quality of it's engine and transmission as far as longevity. Honda gave me the limited lifetime 10 year warranty when I bought it brand new but I still wonder about it. I only drive it about 3000 a year and baby it but I think I will probably sell it for a Toyota in another year. Thank you for your advice for all service maintenance. I will do as you are instructing. However, I'm doing oil changes at every 3000 miles at the dealership just to be sure. Thanks again.
Same B/S From SUBARU, I've Had CVT Fluid Changed Twice, 140 Thousand On My 15 Outback No CVT Issues! I Change Engine Oil Every 4 To 5 Thousand. Small Local Independent Shop Does Competent Work!
I like this guy. He just tells it like it needs to be said, this is called Quality Customer Service. I own an 02 Accourd bought brand new, it was bought as a company car I Provide IT services to companies. The new accords cannot hold a candle to my 02 LX. I've a 2.3L with 5 Speed Manual Trans; power windows and AC. That's all I need.
Excellent video. Other manufacturers, including Toyota, are giving customers the same bad advice. For any of these newer cars with DOHC engines, you can roll down a window and hear the difference after a 10,000 mile oil change. A clear indication the top end is not getting proper lubrication once the oil has been in the car that long. Same goes for transmission service. Beware of any used cars that have only had service at the new extended intervals.
I can tell you that these recommendations can easily vary wildly by dealership and honestly service advisor and technician. I work on cars and I tell people these things listed below Oil change every 5k check your oil level before changing the oil to make sure you’re not burning any. If you don’t then you will eventually get a P0341, it will jump time and potentially destroy your engine, or the timing chain tensioner/ VTC actuator will rattle on start up. Either one of these will result in a new chain, tensioner, guides, VTC actuator, and in the case of engine failure you trading in the car because you’re gonna say screw putting in a new engine. Trans drain and fill every 30k for CVT( 9/10 speed every 50k, 6 speed auto do a flush(Hondas main weak point honestly has always been their transmissions. I do a flush because the fluid in these pilots after 30k is usually pretty dark and the pilots like to get a P0741 which if that pops up then you’ll need a torque converter. DO NOT USE A FLUSH MACHINE. Drain and refill the transmission fluid and then drive the car to cycle the fluid through the torque converter and repeat this process until the fluid is cherry red. Trust me it works and sometimes if you have a P0741 then it’ll keep it away. This flush will work/help any Honda that takes ATF-DW1.) change the fluid sooner if you tow or haul anything frequently). Transfer case and rear differential fluid every 15k ( I know he said every 30k in the video but I’ve seen some cars come in with a vibration when making sharp turns and when I change the fluid it goes away. These customers waiting 30k instead of 15k. It’s not every car this happens to.) Brake fluid every 3 years or if it’s dark Multi point inspection and tire rotation every 5k. Power steering fluid I usually don’t change unless I’m fixing a leak and need to add some. Flushing it out usually causes a blockage and swelling of the inner tie rod boots. Forcing that fluid around just sometimes causes leaks that weren’t previously there due to aging seems so just leave it alone unless there is a leak. Spark plugs, timing belt w/ tensioner, drive belt, water pump, associated pulleys, and valve check and adjustment every 100k( only use NGK or Denso spark plugs. Not changing the plugs usually makes the coil packs work harder and eventually burns them out. Usually they’ll start to fail under load. If the coil pack does fail only use HONDA products because usually the aftermarket coil packs fail WAYYYYYYYYYY faster and customers are always in disbelief when I tell them the coil the just replaced at autozone has failed. Carbon cleaning every 50k if you have direct injection. All direct injection cars carb up on the valves unless they’re using a dual injection system like Toyota. Hope someone finds this useful and don’t let people talk you into those carbon cleaners where all they do is spray stuff into the throttle body. Half the time it’ll result you needing a catalytic converter sooner than you normally would. My dealer tries to push them but I purposely don’t sell them. The best way to remove carbon is to take the intake off and actually clean the valves manually so it doesn’t get in the catalytic converter. That spray shit barely works at all and just isn’t worth the hassles knowing that a new catalytic converter can be thousands of dollars. My Honda has over 270k on it and I follow these intervals and have had zero issues. Also adding half a quart to a quart of ATF-DW1 every oil change can help keep the engine clean as it does serve as a detergent inside the engine but that’s optional. I usually add about half a quart.
Thanks for the great tips. I definitely want to follow your advice on changing the tramission fluid. Where should I have my CVT fluid changed, at the dealer or a local shop?
Can't argue with any of this advice. The only thing I would add is that oil and tranny fluid won't wear as much during highway driving in temperate conditions. I generally stretch oil changes out during the winter months (in Florida), maybe go 6.000 miles if I'm on the highway a lot. Our Acura flashed a transmission service code at 47,000 miles, right about when I planned on having it done. It spends more than half of its life on the highway.
Hello, I'm retired, I only read a few reviews but they agree with your advice, as do I. I bought a new Honda CRV 1.5 Turbo in 2018, it has very low miles now in 2024. After a life's worth of mostly used, different cars with varying experiences, me and my wife wanted a rock solid car for traveling in retirement. I've always done my own maintenance when possible. So far I haven't experienced oil dilution but it is a concern. Me being 64 when I bought the car, I hoped it might be my last car before I have to stop driving and am determined to baby it and maintain it well to that end. A selling point was the Honda dealer gave lifetime oil changes. I took it in for the first change but discovered that online reviews of the Honda oil filters they use were terrible. Ever since, I change my own with quality filters, quality full synthetic oil every 5 thousand miles and I plan to change transmission fluid at 30,000. I agree Honda dealer recommended mileages aren't realistic for really long life. Even if my oil changes are a little early for my own case, it's a small price to pay for longevity, safety, security and confidence in the vehicle. I'm a well educated user, I think as you said - Honda's marketing and products attract the kind of buyer who intends to do what's needed to make the car last. Love your videos! Don't change a thing! :)
The oil change interval should be as follows 6 months or 5,000 miles period. Use full synthetic oil only! Nice feature that you offer loaner vehicles too!
My cabin filter is easily accessible and i change it once a year. Its always quite dirty filled with debris. A lot depends on the enviroment you are driving in but every 2 years by default is not the best
Another Very important thing is Honda has the built in maintenance minder which we educate our customers on. It’a the numbers and letters that appear on the dash when coming in for maintenance. The system tracks the cars mileage and the vehicle owners over all driving and duration of driving to recommend the proper services. Only way you can mess that up is not doing the recommended service when the car tells you to. A: oil Change B: oil change and filter 1: tire rotation 2: cabin and engine filters 3: transmission service 4: spark plugs 6: differential fluid 7: brake fluid During some of those services if you read the manufacturer repair manual we are instructed to look at other things when performing those services like checking the drive belt or brake pads or the timing chains. Only thing I can say is no matter what we always change the oil filters and do a rotation to give the customer the longest tire life. South Florida Honda dealers are big on maintenance due to our weather not being very extreme that’s our biggest money maker we don’t a lot of big repair jobs at all.
I to like Honda Accords - I had a 1990 and have a 2003 and a 2011 - I change the transmission fluid around 30,000 miles - there is a transmission fluid filter that I replace, but it’s never mentioned in the owners manual as to the interval
As a mechanic and Lover of Honda, I agree 110% with you. You pay me small now or pay huge amount later ??? Auto manufacturers make huge profits through selling parts.
Honda technician here. Our dealership recommends 5k oil change service intervals and 30k for CVT transmissions. It varies from dealership to dealership. Manufacture recommendations aren’t the end all be all because most customers don’t even understand their maintenance minders. They rely on the oil change sticker and the service advisor telling them what they need.
Even Nissan CVTs can go farther if the fluid is changed every 30,000 miles. This is great advice. Also, 10,000 mile oil changes are a recipe for disaster, but that disaster will likely show it's face after 150,000 miles. This gets people into a newer car and they hope that customers can justify 150,000 as the "lifetime" of their car and move on without as much of a fight. The manufacturers care about them, not you.
Thank you for posting! As a long time Honda owner who has done his own wrenching for over a decade, I agree with the advice here. I do have a question about our 2024 Civic 1.5L: when you say CVT service at 30,000 miles do you mean just the fluid or do you drop the pan and replace the filter? I think there are two filters in the circuit. One by the pan and one by the cooler.--Do you recommend these to be changed at an interval or just the fluid? With my past Honda vehicles I have only ever changed the fluid every 30,000 and never had a problem but they were not CVTs.
Great video! Our Subaru dealer told us the same thing about our 2017 Legacy. No shops will touch the car to change transmission fluid because the manual says not to touch it. The dealer wants to flush the transmission at 100k miles, but I've heard negative things about that as well. Very frustrating
@Halum_Movies From what I have read from Mechanics such as Scotty Kilmer and others, Do NOT have a transmission flushed! It breaks stuff loose that would not have caused a problem, but it Now will. Drain it and replace the fluid with the Same amount that was drained.
The 10k service interval come from customers surveys done by automotive manufacturers. Since most cars are leased; the customers do not like going to the dealership for servicing often. This has led to 10k or one year oil changes by the new car dealership service departments
I run Civic GX natural gas cars and I mirror your service recommendations. Though you didn't mention valve adjustments. My 2013 GX get adjusted every 30k miles instead of 60k as the nat gas explosion is twice as hot as gasoline and with no rocker arms it's critical to adjust to maintain motor performance, or so the cng crowd says.
Transmission fluid changes are recommended on all Honda's. The interval is built into the onboard maintenance minder and should occur at approx 80,000km. It's listed in the owners manual and is maintenance code #3
2020 Accord exl owner. Maintenance minder will let you know when to change oil based on a number of variables, besides mileage. I usually change my oil when it gets down to 40%, which is around 7,000 miles. So probably could do 12k and still be under manufacturer guidelines.
Not a CVT believer but bought a 2014 Civic with one. I change the fluid every 25k as cheap insurance. Now at 130k, no issues. Honda also claims there is no filters for the CVT, which is false. There are two filters. One under the battery tray and one in the trans pan.
i just bought my 2022 ridgeline to the dealership for and oil change and tire rotation.caught them in a lie about my tire rotation.i had way of telling if they were rotated.so now i’m doubtful that they even did the oil change. so i’m never going back to the dealership.
well, as Scotty Kilmer says, "It is lifetime fluid if you want your transmission to only last 60-100k miles". I mean it will last the lifetime of that transmission, but the transmission life might be shorter than it would have been had you replaced your fluid at regular intervals (which IMO 30k to 50k for CVTs and 60-100k for geared automatics and manuals). I mean if you figure you pay someone to do it, it's not necessarily cheap (maybe $300-$500 each time perhaps) but if's far cheaper than replacing your transmission even with a rebuilt one (which may still cost you $3k at least with labor and porbably more). $3k would probably still be more than you would have paid in the end if you just do the maintenance at regular intervals, so let's say every 50k miles for $350 average, so for about 300,000 miles, it would have cost you about $2100 to have regular fluid changes, which is probably still much cheaper than having even a rebuilt trans put in for $3k+. Basically ignore the "lifetime fluid" nonsense and change it regularly. It's cheaper and less of a headache, in the long run.
Remember people, service manuals are also written and vetted by lawyers. It’s there to protect them from getting sued. As for the subject of oil or fluid changes, it’s cheaper to change more often than it is to wait and have complete failure that could cost thousands.
@@soapa4279 they will say lifetime fluid then deny your warranty claim when your tranny dies because the fluid wasn’t changed every 25k like the manufacturer recommends…
Excellent advice. But, my dealership now wants to charge me for a cvtf re learn procedure. The price went up and they want to justify the increase with an unnecessary trans re learn after a cvtf change. Wow. I know better.
Idk what’s going on with the dealers near your area, but I’ve never heard of any dealers near me telling their customers their transmission fluid is lifetime along with going 10k on an oil change. Yes the new Hondas do have the maintenance contract that includes free maintenance for the first 2 years and unfortunately the oil wrench does have to be on for the dealer to do it so that might be what the dealer means by going 10k per oil change because the oil life get calculated base on driving so some customers might go 4k where others might go 10k (I’ve seen this happen) I’ve been in the industry for 13 years 10 years of which I’ve been with Honda I’m a master technician and Forman at my dealership and my dealer has always done 30k intervals for all the major fluid. And 5k every oil change. I have customers that come in based on the 5k since we do put a lube sticker on with a 5k interval. But I also have customers that follow the maintenance minders and comes in when the wrench comes on. Majority of Hondas over the years have maintenance codes which tells you exactly when to do the major fluids and tire rotations. The maintenance minder tells you oil changes, tire rotations, air filter, transmission fluid, spark plugs and valve adjustment, coolant, rear differential, and on newish Hondas brake fluid. I agree 10k is a lot to go between oil changes especially with the 1.5L turbos Honda are having issues with oil dilution we’ve had some that go 5k plus on an oil change and when we change it it’s comes out like water and smelling like gas.At that point we advise the customer to change the oil a little more frequent so it dosnt cause future engine problems. Sorry for the long post but not all dealerships are the same we always sell what the customer needs and if they have no history with us we try our best to figure out what has been done so we don’t sell something the customer already did.
What brand of shocks and struts do you recommend or normally use for a Honda Odyssey? I have not been able to locate the brand that Honda uses from the factory. For example, BMW cars use Sachs from the factory and I can find Sachs branded struts for a relatively similar price to other aftermarket parts. Thank you.
I have a 2024 Accord EX-L Hybrid. Did my first oil change at 850 miles, the second at 3500 the third will be the free one at the dealership around 7000 miles then every 5000 after that. I have a question about Tires. What tires do you recommend for the Accord? The oem tires are Hankook's and they suck. A quiet and smooth ride is my priority.
This man is right on the money I do everything that he does preventative maintenance is the key to a reliable vehicle. I also have three Hondas. My cars all go high miles with very few problems. I have a 2007 Honda fit sport with 260,000 miles on it now it’s still very reliable and everything thing works as it should. Still drives like a brand new car. Goes through about a half a quart of oil between oil changes still has no leaks anywhere on engine or transmission.
My 08 civic 192k mi just recently uses almost one qrt at 60% oil change status. Hopefully at 20% it wont be another qrt.
You are having oil dilution as well. It's not one way..
Up your viscosity from 5w20 to 5w30 etc. Or use oil stabalizer. Go 5%, 10% etc until it stops.
@DCSPORTSTER DO ANY OF YOUR HONDAS HAVE A CVT ? OR ARE THEY ALL Traditional transmissions!?
But you’re spending more on maintenance. It all balances out. I’d rather maintain it less, get less use out of it, and get newer cars more often. I don’t need my car going to 260K.
Great video! I agree with you. 2018 Honda Civic EX-Hs with CVT. Oil changed every 5,000 miles and CVT fluid changed at 30,000. 46,000 miles on her now.
Totally agree with you. My ‘08 Accord 2.4L has 353,000 miles and I have no engine or transmission issues whatsoever. I change tranny fluid change every 30,000 miles. Once I get to 400,000 miles I might change to every 25,000 miles on transmission oil change. Engine oil change is 5,000 mile change with Valvoline Restore and Protect 5w-20. Purolator Boss filter. Going to 500,000 miles
In this case I don’t have a Honda - have a Toyota - but I highly rate your approach to maintenance and inspection and general advice and I learn something valuable every video. Thank you. Wish I lived nearer to you. Northumberland is a fair hike!
I go to school and work for Honda in Florida and all your recommendations are the same we recommend at a lot of Honda and Acura dealers in south Florida. We also do video inspection for the customers so they can see what us technicians see when running a multipoint inspection.
i like that...i wish my dealer did that
That’s a bad Honda Dealership. The one I got to tells me to change the transmission fluid every 25k-30k miles to change my transmission fluid. Even the manual says to change it at 25k
I've never seen Honda recommend meaning the manufacturer for the transmission fluid to be changed at 25,000 me please State the name model year of that vehicle so I can look that up
@@supertec2023 2020 Honda Civic. Look at page 550 of the owner’s Manual. Along with the maintenance minders under the asterisk section it clearly states to replace the transmission fluid at 25k miles if certain conditions such as low speed driving or mountain driving is frequent.
@@supertec2023I believe the 25k fluid change applies to CVT transmissions. Your traditional transmissions I would change every 60k imo.
@@supertec2023 That's the recommendation for driving in mountainous areas at low speeds. It's the combination that matters. It's not just driving in the mountains or just low speeds but the combination of the two that causes higher transmission temperatures and requires more frequent fluid changes. If that doesn't apply to you then 25K is probably too soon for your specific driving conditions.
@@supertec202323 hrv sport 2wd it says under normal operation 25k is what’s recommended but if you drive in harsh conditions. Hilly , dusty and muddy or snow 15k is recommended. I live in a harsh climate and I went 25k for the first interval to see what the fluid looked like. Nothing on the magnet but the guild was filthy I’m doing every 4th oil change now so 20k
Very clear sincere humble advise.. God Bless. More power to you Shadetree
My wife once went to the dealer for an oil change and was told she needed new wiper blades after I changed her wiper blades literally that same week with brand new top of the line Bosch blades 😂
It happened with me with a cabin filter. Replaced it myself with new oem couple of days before maintenance apt at dealership and they recommended to watch out for dirty cabin filter that should be replaced soon. Did not go back to them!
Bosch are the best, been replacing my family all with Bosch Icons.
@@TheMarioBrosBrosHonda wiper inserts are cheaper and better then aftermarket 😂
Same thing happened to my wife last week. She was took her Tiguan in for service. Told her she needed new wipers, air filter, cabin filter, rear brakes and spark plugs. Total $1600. I told them just do the oil change. I told them I replaced the wipers 2 weeks ago and I checked the air filter and it was in goods condition. Monkeys is what they are.
Happened to me when getting my windshield replaced.
James from Kenya 🇰🇪 like your Honda explaining safety in engine very much
At the end of the day everything comes down to be an educated car owner. People refuse to read the owners manual and learn how to do simple preventive maintenance. Great video btw.
Especially now, since owners are keeping their vehicles longer.
I have a few Hondas in my stable. I just put new Koni shocks on the front of my 01 Prelude the other day in my garage. It was a lot cheaper than getting a shop to do it,easier than I thought but it’s a drag doing it on the ground and not on a lift, I still have to do the rears as well. I like the older cars I have as they are easier to work on. Greetings from British Columbia 😊
Very glad I found your channel. There's no professionals anymore. You have the best interest of your clients. Thank you for all the info!
I will tell you this much, hydrocarbon chemistry hasn't changed. Molecular oxygen is still highly electronegative and it will transfer electrons and oxidize carbon atoms and create a series of radical reactions. In other words, heat plus oxidizers and containments are still present.
Just found this channel and I love it ! If I need a mechanic, I’ll be going to your shop ! Thanks for the content and keep it up !
Im in Canada...oil change every 8000km (4971 miles) Honda CRV owner...2.4 litre N/A motor & last year of the 5 speed transmission. Im keeping it forever.
A Canadian here as well, Change oil every 6 months when I change the snow tires. May and November! Did the AT and Spark Plugs on my Camry at 130,000km and air and cabin filters every 2 years.
5000km
Here here. I did my own full maintenance as well. I change my oil and transmission and differential oil. And radiator coolant change. I still have my brake fluid to change. All my brakes are inspected and/or changed after 5 years of driving. I did my oil and filter change every 3 - 5,000 miles due to the oil dilution problem on my CRV
@coloradosprings7147 lol no. This isn't the 1950s anymore. No need to change the oil that early unless you like wasting money
@@Xpired_PCPoil changes are cheap, engines are not. Always change your oil every 8-10000 km or every 6 months.
Excellent advice. I own a 2017 honda CRV. I change my own oil every 4000 miles. Cvt fluid once each year and differential fluid once a year. Car runs like brand new.
My last maintenance at a Honda dealership was when my Pilot had 22,000 miles on it to get the oil changed.
The service person came out with $700.00 in recommended work to be done.
The first item on the list was to replace the cabin filter and vacuum out the fan area for $180
I said no to everything and replaced and vacuumed for $12
And I have not gone back.
100% spot on sir 👍🏼 knowledge is power
Great advice, no BS. Wish you guys had a shop here in Charleston SC.
Thanks again. I follow your advice & insight. Excellent.
You are very welcome. Thanks for your support!
Awesome Video. I am a believer in everything you said. What's going on is they are hoping that after the older crowd goes away they can stop having vehicles go 317000 miles like my 2012 Honda Ridgeline. I am 63 and it always amazes me how many young people who completely accept these crazy long oil changes. Many don't even know how to check their oil.
I really believe they don't want vehicles to last as long as the older Hondas and Toyotas so you will have to buy a new one.
I think you nailed it on the head! 👏
I agree with your recommendations. On my 12' Altima I have the CVT fluid changed every 2 years. To me years are just as important as miles.
We bought a new 2019 HR/V LX in May 2020. My interval for a drain/refill on the CVT fluid is 20,000 miles. I've already done one. Additionally, upon the first oil change, I started using Mobil 1 synthetic motor oil.
Thank you, couldn't have came out during a better time. I just purchased my 2024 accord last night. Question, so for the Accord EX 1.5, my dealer recommended 87 octaine. I was confused because I'm fairly certain it's 91. And I feel you on the topic of trust when it comes to dealers
87 octane for a Honda accord ex 1.5 I have the 2020 accord exl. I've heard some people recommend higher octane because it helps with potential head gasket problems.
@jimbike8064 thanks. Yeah, it seems like that's what a lot of others have been saying, and also sticking to a consistent fuel station when possible . I think I'm going to use 91, and use Chevron since it's near me
The 1.5 has a huge oil dilusion issues. Some say high octane helps.
@@LTGONZ0 I heard Ahmd from the Car Care Nut channel say that...try to stick with 1 brand. Had never heard that before. Of course it should always be a top tier gasoline, which Chevron is. I use Shell 95% of the time. Only something else in a pinch. I'm at 52,000 miles on my Accord. No problems, knock wood.
The higher octane has more cleaner in it and will reduce carbon build up.
In an online forum I found, a Honda technician in Japan confirmed that all Honda cars required scheduled transmission fluid flush. No exception. No such thing as life-time transmission fluid with Honda.
In South ease Asia, Honda own these dealers, they replace filters and fluid because if the transmission fail, Honda will replace it with loss. BTW it's unlimited mileage with 8 years warranty.
In Asia, the transmission service interval is 37,500 miles and by research the Honda ATF is high quality Group III base oil which required schedule service. For Group VI PAO base ATF will last 60,000 miles often in European cars but never lifetime.
I’d disagree if you have one of the ZF 9-speed transmissions. Those are only drain and fill every 30k
Honda can keep their "free" oil changes. I just bought a new Ridgeline and they will never touch my truck unless it's a warranty repair
Have one since 2006😊
Great info-My 2008 Ridgeline has only been dealer serviced and has 304K on it. They do everything you do, only thing I have not done are the struts, still original and truck drives the same as new
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience! I have found your channel to be very informative! Also, it is very rare that a shop has loaner cars for its customers. That definitely elevates your shop and I'm sure your customers appreciate that courtesy.
Thank you! Yes our loaner cars have been a big pain in my butt...but my customers love them..haha
Same with the newer Toyota vehicles with these long oil change intervals. I get my oil change done very 5,000 miles or 6 months whichever comes first. I get it done at an independent garage.
I wish we had honest guys like you here in the UK. The wife has a 2020 Mazda 2 and just been caught out on the annual MOT check at the main dealer. It was OK when she took it in (I checked beforehand as I do regularly) but got stung when she went to collect. 😮
I believe that the main problem is customers going with cheap oil and filters.
I'm with the camp that follows the maintenance minder but use high quality oil and filters.
I have a 130K miles odyssey that follows the built in maintenance minder which is well known for long intervals between oil changes. No issues with oil consumption or anything related.
I seen oil analysis done on Hondas that follow the MM recommendation and all metrics are within range. 🤷♂
Will continue to follow the MM no matter what in my new Acura too.
Yeah, his "guarantee" for engine problems by 200K if you go 10K is false. I follow the MM which is typically 10K and my '09 Civic has 320K without issues. I use a full synthetic and burn about 1.5qt between MM changes.
You are 100% right I don't even wait for 5000 miles because it is my car not dealer
I agree. I own a 2013 Accord EX w/CVT which I bought in 2017 and it had 20k mi. Years later, when I had added 50k to the odometer, I was trying to figure out when to change the CVT fluid. There was no maintenance schedule in the manuals so I called a Honda dealer and asked. I ended up calling several because they weren't too clear on when to do this, nor did they seem to agree with other dealerships' answers. I was given 30k, 50k, 60-100k so I finally asked my mechanic, who I have used for 20 years, and he said he would do it at 80k. So .. at 80k he did a flush for me. The only thing that worries me is should we have changed the fluid, rather than doing a flush? I've heard the machines they use can cause damage. This was 2 years ago, and I have 100k now. So I'm guessing no damage was done but for next time should I change or flush?
What concerns most people with the verbiage "flush" is not really a problem any more. Most shops either do a drain and fill or use a machine for a fluid exchange. Either way has its place.
Great advice! What If your car sits or just doesn’t even hit 5k miles easily? Would you recommend changing the oil every 6 months instead? I have a ‘20 Accord and I’m worried I’m not driving it enough and the oil may go bad over time.
I’m in the same boat as you, I’m barely at 2600 miles since July 15 2023, 2018 accord sport 1.5 CVT, the maintenance minder came on last month, I will be changing the oil soon, honda says not to go past the 1 year mark for vehicles that aren’t driven much, just replace it at the one year mark.
@@STILLNIGHTPEARL Thanks man, I appreciate that information!
I took my Ridgeline into the dealer for a “free oil change” and they told me I needed new brake pads and rotors. I checked and they had plenty of life left. Two years later I still have 20% of the pad life left according to an honest shop. Just had them check yesterday.
6:15 Exactly right. Inspect first then replace if needed. Just replacing based on mileage alone is lazy shop work.
Really good advice being given here - this is how I look after our family's cars. Spending money on maintenance really saves you money in the long run and is critical if you plan on keeping your car a long time.
There is no such thing as "lifetime" oil . . . if you don't change it the "life" of the transmission will be severely reduced (run away as fast as you can from anyone claiming otherwise). Change transmission oil at least every 50,000 miles with normal automatic gearboxes and more frequently with crappy CVT's - this is way cheaper than paying for a new transmission - a colleague of mine just had to replace the CVT in his Nissan and it was not a particularly high mileage car. I own a BMW in which the service manual recommends 12,000 mile oil change intervals which to me, as a mechanical engineer is asinine and simply a way to make the maintenance costs seem lower (at least until the engine coughs up is crank bearings). I reduced that interval interval by half. Air filters and cabin filters . . . every 18 - 24 months is usually okay and if you buy decent aftermarket parts from reputable parts companies these particular parts are not expensive and very easy to change yourself so even if you want to do it every 12 months its not going to break the bank.
50k miles is very early. Most basic autos can go to 100k no problems. How are things getting higher maintenance? Should be the opposite. Bad transmissions, bad fluid, or both?
Agree with everything you said beside the struts. Replace those when they need to be replaced. Not at an interval. Newer Honda V6 engines still have timing belt
Good information and clearly right on the money.
Your video outlines all the important schedules for maintenance I’m very grateful there’s still a few mechanics and business that are working hard to educate people about car maintenance.
I’m a little surprised that you left the Honda dealership with a maintenance agreement but they can be persuasive you just got caught up in the moment.
You should get a couple of magnetic sign’s and cover up your own wrap with a feed store sign or something innocuous so any casual observer might not recognize your car in the dealership quick lube for service.
Haha..I bought it from a buddy of mine and he actually gets in a little trouble from management if he doesn't sell a maintenance package or extended warranty. He made it work within what I was willing to pay him for the car.
We work on our Honda/Acura vehicles and maintain them religiously. This is especially true when it comes to the transmissions. We do a simple drain and fill once a year. This keeps our CVT, 5, 6, 9, & 10 speed transmissions very happy.
Transmission fluid for a CVT should be changed, but how about a transmission with clutches? As the transmission gets older, i believe keeping the same fluid is more beneficial, is it not? So that the clutch debris in the fluid can assist the worn out clutch to better engage and not slip.
For a normal transmission it is best to drain and fill the transmission. This keeps about half the old fluid with debris in it. This gives you a good compromise of getting some clean fluid in and still keeping enough of the debris.
About the CVT transmission. I had a 2014 amAccord with a CVT and the Honda dealership recomended changing it evey 30k miles (if I remember corectly). I changed it three times while I had the car. I bought it with around 35k miles on it and the previous owner had changed it at 30k miles. Sold the car with 126k miles on it and the transmission was as smooth as the first time I drove it. So, yeah. Change your CVT fluids.
Toyota had an issue with piston design until about 2015 which was causing oil issues with the 10k mi oil changes, but this was since fixed. Other brands may not have caught it so early, hence the prevalence of problems with 10k mi oil change intervals. It was after the change to low tension piston rings where fuel could blow by and dilute the oil near where the rods connect. I know this affected some Audis until at least 2017 maybe longer too.
I will only use Eneos brand for my '22 Civic Sport for its engine oil and CVT fluid. This brand is OEM for most Japanese cars. I find their engine oil lasting up to 6000 miles, and their CVT fluid still looks good after 30,000 miles but I change it before it reaches 40,000 miles with new CVT filters, pan gasket and o-ring seals in the CVT cooler housing.
10,000 miles or one year oil change intervals have been working well for me. I have been using Mobil 1 0w 20 and a Mobil 1 oil filter in my 2012 Civic's R18. My driving until 2023 was mostly highway miles. I have been putting less than 3,000 miles a year on since 2023.
Very good information, purchased a 2017 Honda Accord Sport and plan on keeping it for a long time, it is ABSOLUTLEY insane for Honda and the dealships to recommend 10k oil changes and state the CVT transmission fluid as LIFETIME. This is totally wrong, most Honda vehicles use a very thin engine oil, 0-20 which as stated in the video breaks down in a much shorter time. It is IMPERATIVE that you stick to a 5k oil change schedule even with full synthetic oil and change your CVT transmission fluid every 30K, and ONLY use the Honda HCF-2 CVT transmission fluid.This will save you in the long run from huge costly repairs, I am just blown away the Honda dealerships/manufacturer would recommend such intervals, sounds to me like they want you to go by their intervals and make lots of $$$$
I have a 2017 honda accord sport also, I do all my own maintenance, penzoil ultra platinum every 3,000 oem transmission fluid every 30,000 wix filters all around.
I have found 0w-20 to be robust in NA applications. Definitely not taking it to 10k miles but when I have it tested at 5k it definitely has some life in it.
I am in New Zealand and I change my Honda Accord cabin filter every 20 to 30k kms.
The NZ Honda recommend new spark plugs every 100k kms.
We have found Honda wheel bearings only last 90 to 170k kms.
I also found alternator and starter motor both needed to be replaced around 160 to 220 kms and it's common with 2.4 Honda Accord....
Just thought I would share my experience....
Awesome! Appreciate you sharing the proper way to maintain a reliable Honda! 👍👍👍
What is a good aftermarket strut manufacturer for a 2014 Honda CRV?
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In Africa Ghana where I live with most untarred roads, I mostly change cabin filters & the Air elements every 5000km, sometimes every other oil servicing.
I do my every 25 thousand miles on my Honda Civic CVT fluid, 5 5,000 miles on engine oil! Serpentine belt at 90k miles now it is 99k miles have zero issues!
My 2015 Honda civic cvt transmission went out at 138K. The dealership advised when I purchased the car brand to never change the trans fluid!
I love this . Its worth knowing, GOD bless you Chief
If I was anywhere near Utah I would be bringing my vehicles to you every time. Preventative maintenance is the way to go. Regardless if it's cars, trucks, motorcycles, boats, etc. A lot of it depends on what climate you live in as well.
For Honda suspension components, do you use aftermarket or OEM? I would be interested to see a video on how you guys decide what you decide when to use aftermarket parts.
Use McPherson!
Thank you. I have a 22 accord sport 1.5lT I bought new and I worry about the quality of it's engine and transmission as far as longevity. Honda gave me the limited lifetime 10 year warranty when I bought it brand new but I still wonder about it. I only drive it about 3000 a year and baby it but I think I will probably sell it for a Toyota in another year. Thank you for your advice for all service maintenance. I will do as you are instructing. However, I'm doing oil changes at every 3000 miles at the dealership just to be sure. Thanks again.
Same B/S From SUBARU, I've Had CVT Fluid Changed Twice, 140 Thousand On My 15 Outback No CVT Issues! I Change Engine Oil Every 4 To 5 Thousand. Small Local Independent Shop Does Competent Work!
I like this guy. He just tells it like it needs to be said, this is called Quality Customer Service.
I own an 02 Accourd bought brand new, it was bought as a company car I Provide IT services to companies. The new accords cannot hold a candle to my 02 LX.
I've a 2.3L with 5 Speed Manual Trans; power windows and AC. That's all I need.
I’m gonna follow this oil change recommendation! Also CVT fluid will be changed .
Thank you, Subaru says never change CVT too. I will change mine around 30
Excellent video. Other manufacturers, including Toyota, are giving customers the same bad advice. For any of these newer cars with DOHC engines, you can roll down a window and hear the difference after a 10,000 mile oil change. A clear indication the top end is not getting proper lubrication once the oil has been in the car that long. Same goes for transmission service. Beware of any used cars that have only had service at the new extended intervals.
Excellent video, thanks so much for posting this.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind comment
I like it except shocks struts. But I agree with 30k transmission oil agreed 100k miles sparkplug agreed cabin air filter 30k yep.yep I'm with u
I can tell you that these recommendations can easily vary wildly by dealership and honestly service advisor and technician. I work on cars and I tell people these things listed below
Oil change every 5k check your oil level before changing the oil to make sure you’re not burning any. If you don’t then you will eventually get a P0341, it will jump time and potentially destroy your engine, or the timing chain tensioner/ VTC actuator will rattle on start up. Either one of these will result in a new chain, tensioner, guides, VTC actuator, and in the case of engine failure you trading in the car because you’re gonna say screw putting in a new engine.
Trans drain and fill every 30k for CVT( 9/10 speed every 50k, 6 speed auto do a flush(Hondas main weak point honestly has always been their transmissions. I do a flush because the fluid in these pilots after 30k is usually pretty dark and the pilots like to get a P0741 which if that pops up then you’ll need a torque converter. DO NOT USE A FLUSH MACHINE. Drain and refill the transmission fluid and then drive the car to cycle the fluid through the torque converter and repeat this process until the fluid is cherry red. Trust me it works and sometimes if you have a P0741 then it’ll keep it away. This flush will work/help any Honda that takes ATF-DW1.) change the fluid sooner if you tow or haul anything frequently).
Transfer case and rear differential fluid every 15k ( I know he said every 30k in the video but I’ve seen some cars come in with a vibration when making sharp turns and when I change the fluid it goes away. These customers waiting 30k instead of 15k. It’s not every car this happens to.)
Brake fluid every 3 years or if it’s dark
Multi point inspection and tire rotation every 5k.
Power steering fluid I usually don’t change unless I’m fixing a leak and need to add some. Flushing it out usually causes a blockage and swelling of the inner tie rod boots. Forcing that fluid around just sometimes causes leaks that weren’t previously there due to aging seems so just leave it alone unless there is a leak.
Spark plugs, timing belt w/ tensioner, drive belt, water pump, associated pulleys, and valve check and adjustment every 100k( only use NGK or Denso spark plugs. Not changing the plugs usually makes the coil packs work harder and eventually burns them out. Usually they’ll start to fail under load. If the coil pack does fail only use HONDA products because usually the aftermarket coil packs fail WAYYYYYYYYYY faster and customers are always in disbelief when I tell them the coil the just replaced at autozone has failed.
Carbon cleaning every 50k if you have direct injection. All direct injection cars carb up on the valves unless they’re using a dual injection system like Toyota.
Hope someone finds this useful and don’t let people talk you into those carbon cleaners where all they do is spray stuff into the throttle body. Half the time it’ll result you needing a catalytic converter sooner than you normally would. My dealer tries to push them but I purposely don’t sell them. The best way to remove carbon is to take the intake off and actually clean the valves manually so it doesn’t get in the catalytic converter. That spray shit barely works at all and just isn’t worth the hassles knowing that a new catalytic converter can be thousands of dollars.
My Honda has over 270k on it and I follow these intervals and have had zero issues. Also adding half a quart to a quart of ATF-DW1 every oil change can help keep the engine clean as it does serve as a detergent inside the engine but that’s optional. I usually add about half a quart.
Thanks for the great tips. I definitely want to follow your advice on changing the tramission fluid. Where should I have my CVT fluid changed, at the dealer or a local shop?
Great, great video…thanks so much for sharing.
I just bought a new 2024 Honda Pilot elite. At what mileage would you recommend the transmission oil change? 30,000 miles or 50,000 miles?
Fellow Utahn here, please keep making these helpful videos 🙏🏽
Thank you! You got it
Can't argue with any of this advice. The only thing I would add is that oil and tranny fluid won't wear as much during highway driving in temperate conditions. I generally stretch oil changes out during the winter months (in Florida), maybe go 6.000 miles if I'm on the highway a lot. Our Acura flashed a transmission service code at 47,000 miles, right about when I planned on having it done. It spends more than half of its life on the highway.
If the CVT fluid came out “pretty” dirty @ 30k, why not move the change interval to 25k? I know the fluid is pricey, but… still.
Hello, I'm retired, I only read a few reviews but they agree with your advice, as do I. I bought a new Honda CRV 1.5 Turbo in 2018, it has very low miles now in 2024. After a life's worth of mostly used, different cars with varying experiences, me and my wife wanted a rock solid car for traveling in retirement. I've always done my own maintenance when possible. So far I haven't experienced oil dilution but it is a concern. Me being 64 when I bought the car, I hoped it might be my last car before I have to stop driving and am determined to baby it and maintain it well to that end. A selling point was the Honda dealer gave lifetime oil changes. I took it in for the first change but discovered that online reviews of the Honda oil filters they use were terrible. Ever since, I change my own with quality filters, quality full synthetic oil every 5 thousand miles and I plan to change transmission fluid at 30,000. I agree Honda dealer recommended mileages aren't realistic for really long life. Even if my oil changes are a little early for my own case, it's a small price to pay for longevity, safety, security and confidence in the vehicle. I'm a well educated user, I think as you said - Honda's marketing and products attract the kind of buyer who intends to do what's needed to make the car last. Love your videos! Don't change a thing! :)
The oil change interval should be as follows 6 months or 5,000 miles period. Use full synthetic oil only! Nice feature that you offer loaner vehicles too!
My cabin filter is easily accessible and i change it once a year. Its always quite dirty filled with debris. A lot depends on the enviroment you are driving in but every 2 years by default is not the best
I usually do a 6 month or a 4500 mile (which comes first) oil. I know for some lt seems excessive but i love taking care of my investment and car lol
No that’s not excessive. Nice work!
An oil change twice a year seems quite inexpensive when compared to the cost to replace an engine.
That’s what the Toyota Lexus car care nut recommends
Another Very important thing is Honda has the built in maintenance minder which we educate our customers on. It’a the numbers and letters that appear on the dash when coming in for maintenance. The system tracks the cars mileage and the vehicle owners over all driving and duration of driving to recommend the proper services. Only way you can mess that up is not doing the recommended service when the car tells you to.
A: oil Change
B: oil change and filter
1: tire rotation
2: cabin and engine filters
3: transmission service
4: spark plugs
6: differential fluid
7: brake fluid
During some of those services if you read the manufacturer repair manual we are instructed to look at other things when performing those services like checking the drive belt or brake pads or the timing chains.
Only thing I can say is no matter what we always change the oil filters and do a rotation to give the customer the longest tire life. South Florida Honda dealers are big on maintenance due to our weather not being very extreme that’s our biggest money maker we don’t a lot of big repair jobs at all.
I to like Honda Accords - I had a 1990 and have a 2003 and a 2011 - I change the transmission fluid around 30,000 miles - there is a transmission fluid filter that I replace, but it’s never mentioned in the owners manual as to the interval
I always replace trans fluid 40-50k miles , oil change 4-5k miles . Never fails on me and all of them reached over 200k miles with no issues .
As a mechanic and Lover of Honda, I agree 110% with you. You pay me small now or pay huge amount later ??? Auto manufacturers make huge profits through selling parts.
Honda technician here. Our dealership recommends 5k oil change service intervals and 30k for CVT transmissions. It varies from dealership to dealership.
Manufacture recommendations aren’t the end all be all because most customers don’t even understand their maintenance minders. They rely on the oil change sticker and the service advisor telling them what they need.
Even Nissan CVTs can go farther if the fluid is changed every 30,000 miles. This is great advice. Also, 10,000 mile oil changes are a recipe for disaster, but that disaster will likely show it's face after 150,000 miles. This gets people into a newer car and they hope that customers can justify 150,000 as the "lifetime" of their car and move on without as much of a fight. The manufacturers care about them, not you.
Thank you for posting! As a long time Honda owner who has done his own wrenching for over a decade, I agree with the advice here. I do have a question about our 2024 Civic 1.5L: when you say CVT service at 30,000 miles do you mean just the fluid or do you drop the pan and replace the filter? I think there are two filters in the circuit. One by the pan and one by the cooler.--Do you recommend these to be changed at an interval or just the fluid? With my past Honda vehicles I have only ever changed the fluid every 30,000 and never had a problem but they were not CVTs.
I sure wish your shop was near me in Virginia. A really good shop like yours is hard to find these days.
Great video! Our Subaru dealer told us the same thing about our 2017 Legacy. No shops will touch the car to change transmission fluid because the manual says not to touch it. The dealer wants to flush the transmission at 100k miles, but I've heard negative things about that as well. Very frustrating
@Halum_Movies From what I have read from Mechanics such as Scotty Kilmer and others, Do NOT have a transmission flushed! It breaks stuff loose that would not have caused a problem, but it Now will. Drain it and replace the fluid with the Same amount that was drained.
@@robertneal6878 that's exactly what I've heard and that's my fear. I feel put in a position by Subaru to fail
I wish you had an older car for sale. I would love to buy a car from you, You definitely take care of them for sure....
Thank you!
Everything on this vid is spot on! This guy knows what he is talking about.
Thank you!
The 10k service interval come from customers surveys done by automotive manufacturers. Since most cars are leased; the customers do not like going to the dealership for servicing often. This has led to 10k or one year oil changes by the new car dealership service departments
I run Civic GX natural gas cars and I mirror your service recommendations. Though you didn't mention valve adjustments. My 2013 GX get adjusted every 30k miles instead of 60k as the nat gas explosion is twice as hot as gasoline and with no rocker arms it's critical to adjust to maintain motor performance, or so the cng crowd says.
Transmission fluid changes are recommended on all Honda's. The interval is built into the onboard maintenance minder and should occur at approx 80,000km. It's listed in the owners manual and is maintenance code #3
i have seen some dealer recommend flushes on cvt transmissions
Good. Glad it’s not everywhere
But would they really do it? They would charge you for it.
not a good idea to flush any transmission
2020 Accord exl owner.
Maintenance minder will let you know when to change oil based on a number of variables, besides mileage. I usually change my oil when it gets down to 40%, which is around 7,000 miles. So probably could do 12k and still be under manufacturer guidelines.
Not a CVT believer but bought a 2014 Civic with one. I change the fluid every 25k as cheap insurance. Now at 130k, no issues. Honda also claims there is no filters for the CVT, which is false. There are two filters. One under the battery tray and one in the trans pan.
Good info, thanks for sharing!
i just bought my 2022 ridgeline to the dealership for and oil change and tire rotation.caught them in a lie about my tire rotation.i had way of telling if they were rotated.so now i’m doubtful that they even did the oil change. so i’m never going back to the dealership.
well, as Scotty Kilmer says, "It is lifetime fluid if you want your transmission to only last 60-100k miles". I mean it will last the lifetime of that transmission, but the transmission life might be shorter than it would have been had you replaced your fluid at regular intervals (which IMO 30k to 50k for CVTs and 60-100k for geared automatics and manuals). I mean if you figure you pay someone to do it, it's not necessarily cheap (maybe $300-$500 each time perhaps) but if's far cheaper than replacing your transmission even with a rebuilt one (which may still cost you $3k at least with labor and porbably more). $3k would probably still be more than you would have paid in the end if you just do the maintenance at regular intervals, so let's say every 50k miles for $350 average, so for about 300,000 miles, it would have cost you about $2100 to have regular fluid changes, which is probably still much cheaper than having even a rebuilt trans put in for $3k+. Basically ignore the "lifetime fluid" nonsense and change it regularly. It's cheaper and less of a headache, in the long run.
Remember people, service manuals are also written and vetted by lawyers. It’s there to protect them from getting sued.
As for the subject of oil or fluid changes, it’s cheaper to change more often than it is to wait and have complete failure that could cost thousands.
The owners manual says 25k idk where they got lifetime fluid from…
@@Hardworkpays209 Not sure, but other manufacturers like BMW also suggest CVT fluid is “lifetime” Which we all shouldn’t believe.
@@soapa4279 they will say lifetime fluid then deny your warranty claim when your tranny dies because the fluid wasn’t changed every 25k like the manufacturer recommends…
The Honda 9 speed transmission has expensive fluid, where do you get yours…from a 55 gal barrel?
Excellent advice. But, my dealership now wants to charge me for a cvtf re learn procedure. The price went up and they want to justify the increase with an unnecessary trans re learn after a cvtf change. Wow. I know better.
Great video, thank you!
Do you recommend 5,000 miles (or sooner) for the first oil change on a new Pilot?
Idk what’s going on with the dealers near your area, but I’ve never heard of any dealers near me telling their customers their transmission fluid is lifetime along with going 10k on an oil change. Yes the new Hondas do have the maintenance contract that includes free maintenance for the first 2 years and unfortunately the oil wrench does have to be on for the dealer to do it so that might be what the dealer means by going 10k per oil change because the oil life get calculated base on driving so some customers might go 4k where others might go 10k (I’ve seen this happen) I’ve been in the industry for 13 years 10 years of which I’ve been with Honda I’m a master technician and Forman at my dealership and my dealer has always done 30k intervals for all the major fluid. And 5k every oil change. I have customers that come in based on the 5k since we do put a lube sticker on with a 5k interval. But I also have customers that follow the maintenance minders and comes in when the wrench comes on. Majority of Hondas over the years have maintenance codes which tells you exactly when to do the major fluids and tire rotations. The maintenance minder tells you oil changes, tire rotations, air filter, transmission fluid, spark plugs and valve adjustment, coolant, rear differential, and on newish Hondas brake fluid. I agree 10k is a lot to go between oil changes especially with the 1.5L turbos Honda are having issues with oil dilution we’ve had some that go 5k plus on an oil change and when we change it it’s comes out like water and smelling like gas.At that point we advise the customer to change the oil a little more frequent so it dosnt cause future engine problems. Sorry for the long post but not all dealerships are the same we always sell what the customer needs and if they have no history with us we try our best to figure out what has been done so we don’t sell something the customer already did.
You are obviously one of the good ones making our Industry look good. Thank you my friend!
What brand of shocks and struts do you recommend or normally use for a Honda Odyssey? I have not been able to locate the brand that Honda uses from the factory. For example, BMW cars use Sachs from the factory and I can find Sachs branded struts for a relatively similar price to other aftermarket parts. Thank you.
I have a 2024 Accord EX-L Hybrid. Did my first oil change at 850 miles, the second at 3500 the third will be the free one at the dealership around 7000 miles then every 5000 after that. I have a question about Tires. What tires do you recommend for the Accord? The oem tires are Hankook's and they suck. A quiet and smooth ride is my priority.