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  • @thesuperframe
    @thesuperframe  2 года назад +184

    My quick video explaining my one villainous scene, the introduction to the big man of crime.. TOMBSTONE !
    EDIT: If you guys can tweet this video at NandosVMovies and help get it added to the playlist that'd be great :D

    • @fictiontheorizer4253
      @fictiontheorizer4253 2 года назад +5

      There's so many great villains' in this series that it's hard to pick one. From Venom and Green Goblin, to Doc Ock and Tombstone, and even less prominent villains like the Vulture and Rhino, there were some really awesome characters that came out of this show. Also congrats on knowing what "The Batman" tv show is. I generally find it to be extremely underrated.

  • @AegixDrakan
    @AegixDrakan 2 года назад +882

    Oh my gosh. That...That's a REALLY nifty villain twist. "I'm only sending supervillains out so that it keeps you from dealing with the low ranking criminals that are my actual money-makers"...Damn that's a good one.

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 2 года назад +98

      Makes sense, Dark Knight Rises, pretty much showcases why Supervillains arent the best money-makers, most of them are ulterior motives, are too chaotic, etc... to be of any actual profit, they work far better as Superhero deterrents.

    • @Marsh388
      @Marsh388 2 года назад +82

      It’s really brilliant. They aren’t even made to kill Spider-Man, just to be his playmates while small time crooks pick the city clean. I was hoping the MCU would have adapted this, it would have DEFINITELY went hand in hand with Tony Stark saying small time crime was beneath the superpowers crowd.

    • @aaronjackson7244
      @aaronjackson7244 2 года назад +14

      It's pretty smart yet quite realistic actually 💯💯💯them supervillains just give OG spidey a warm up, keeping him company while da big Dawgs handle grown man business ya dig?

    • @benjaminbierley2074
      @benjaminbierley2074 Год назад +7

      @@Marsh388 If you listen during the first Black Panther and in Spiderman Homecoming it's exactly this logic and approach the villains are trying to cultivate, basically actively making an effort to stay under the "superheroes" radar, in the case of Klaw making a museum robbery appear "sloppy" on purpose to keep the supes from realizing it was done by professionals, and in the case of the Vulture and his crew making sure they didn't make a scene with the tech they were using or giving themselves super villain names that would surely catch the heroes notice.

    • @vylbird8014
      @vylbird8014 Год назад +3

      There are lots of ways you can work with the idea. I just read one book which puts a new twist on it: There's a villain shortage. Heroes in that setting can have lucrative public careers, getting corporate sponsorships, selling product endorsements, and being adored by the public - but they have been so successful that all the big villains are dead or securely incarcerated, and any upcoming new villains are swiftly dealt with in a curb-stomp battle with heroes far above their level. Without a good threat to fight - and a properly terrifying villain - there is no glory for the heroes and a lot less money. The big conspiracy of the setting is a shadowy secret society of villains... which turns out to be a front group working on behalf of the heroes: They seek out newly-empowered people with villainous potential, give them better resources and training, cultivate their public image while posing as allies - and once the sucker has a public profile sufficient to instil terror in the masses, their weaknesses and location are sold to a hero who gets the glory of taking down a 'real' threat.

  • @ItsAVolcano
    @ItsAVolcano 2 года назад +1342

    Once you actually get into his character, it's amazing Tombstone isn't a regular foe of Luke Cage. He's basically a highly successful warped mirror image of Cage; a poor African American man growing up in New York City and finding himself getting tougher and stronger as he grows up, looks around at the unjust system and decides to do something about it.

    • @lavellelee5734
      @lavellelee5734 2 года назад +8

      You ever play cod advance warfare? This idea/plotline( or more of the idea the act man presented in his review) mixed with your comment would be noice

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 2 года назад +52

      That's why Titan in Invincible is inspired by both?:D
      Problem is that mirror image characters don't always work great. You can't just have them for every character you have or it'll grow stale.
      As for why he wasn't used this way? Not all versions of Tombstone were black. In fact this was probably one of the first ones to be. So they just glossed over the fact that that might have also changed the characters background.
      /cough/ not exactly. It's not like white Tombstone would be coming from happy rich family. Hmm, thinking about it Marvel unintentionally makes all such villain motivations right. Hard to argue against "might makes right" and "get rich by any means" mentality when all your villains became criminals solely because poverty or being abused by society. Ah yes, let's beat them anyway!

    • @fictiontheorizer4253
      @fictiontheorizer4253 2 года назад +68

      The problem is that Tombstone isn't usually this powerful or influential. This is very much a adaptation, which has more in common with the Kingpin than Tombstone from the comics.

    • @TheArklyte
      @TheArklyte 2 года назад +50

      @@fictiontheorizer4253 yes and no. Usually only Kingpin is depicted this way, BUT logically this is what smaller bosses SHOULD be. Even if Tombstone is usually depicted as enforcer and not a boss. The thing is he and guys like Hammerhead are in completely separate league from street criminals, but he is far away from the level Kingpin operates upon(Fisk attacked SHIELD on multiple occasions, operates internationally and keeps Osborn aka Marvel's version of Boeing in his pocket). So it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to expect the likes of Tombstone to be "management" on city scale level.
      While supervillains usually operate fully independently from criminal underworld and its hierarchy. It's not their world, they just come in for a paycheck.

    • @ItsAVolcano
      @ItsAVolcano 2 года назад +28

      @@fictiontheorizer4253 oddly enough this version feels like a natural evolution of the old super thug from the 90's cartoon, we're just seeing him way further down the line. Over the years in the comics Tombstone went from a super powered thug of the Kingpin to leader of his own street gang, to building up his gang into elite enforcers of the Kingpin and eventually into a proper mafia style operation. Plus, the way his powers work, he's constantly getting stronger and tougher so even his higher power level fits here if we assume he's just older than most versions we meet.

  • @TheDevilkiller1
    @TheDevilkiller1 2 года назад +527

    A smart villain is dangerous, but a smart villain with the strength to back them up nightmare material.

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 2 года назад +26

      Tombstone is a good example of this, using Time and Presence against Spiderman is a auto-loss for him from the start, he aint fast enough to stop the petty thugs and the supervillains at the same time and he doesnt have the Presence to be at two places at once.

    • @gustavobassi3052
      @gustavobassi3052 2 года назад +17

      DC's version of this is Bane (or should be Bane, as good Bane stories are rare)

    • @cosmicghost811
      @cosmicghost811 2 года назад +12

      My Favorite kind of villain (especially when it's a street level villain). Both brains and brawn.

    • @christopherauzenne5023
      @christopherauzenne5023 10 месяцев назад +3

      100% Yep and yet so many series refuse to do an accurate bane

  • @TheAwesomeMed
    @TheAwesomeMed 2 года назад +1089

    Any mention of Spectacular Spider-Man is immediately deserving of a like!

    • @jasircook138
      @jasircook138 2 года назад +13

      My exact thought process 💀

    • @DwarfDaddy
      @DwarfDaddy 2 года назад +5

      Agreed

    • @dekay1428
      @dekay1428 2 года назад +9

      Like Teen Titans I thought the ending closing of the series before it really finished anything was soooooo disappointing

    • @jefferyandbob3137
      @jefferyandbob3137 2 года назад +5

      I second that... or fifth that I guess

    • @icarusrising2787
      @icarusrising2787 2 года назад +3

      As does a comment about liking a video about a likeable show!

  • @bmvthemoviefanatic7282
    @bmvthemoviefanatic7282 2 года назад +278

    "All you have to remember is to look the other way on occasion. On any occasion I choose."
    "I can't ever look the other way again."
    *Chills*

    • @CasualNickname
      @CasualNickname 7 месяцев назад +4

      He looked the other way *_once._* _One time,_ and it cost him more than he could have ever imagined, a mistake that completely changed the course of his life. *_Never again._*

  • @National7575
    @National7575 2 года назад +646

    Tombstone was a brilliant villain, this version made me like him more than kingpin

    • @matthewk822
      @matthewk822 2 года назад +14

      Yes I agree but disappointing that Kingpin should be in the show and work with tombstone to defeat Spider-Man

    • @uncannydcmarvelous5732
      @uncannydcmarvelous5732 2 года назад +42

      @@matthewk822 It had to do with the rights of Kingpin for TV (cartoons/live action) and movies.
      Despite starting as a Spidey villain, Frank Miller's work coined him as Daredevil's nemesis, which put the character on a shared situation but because of DD's rights returned to Marvel Studios, Sony just kinda didn't want to any deals just for one character.

    • @milkiassamuel780
      @milkiassamuel780 2 года назад +46

      @@matthewk822 Honestly as much as I would've loved to have seen Kingpin on Spectacular Spiderman, I think re-imagining an underrated villain like Tombstone as a competent, calculating crime-lord works very well, despite his similarities to Kingpin. I honestly prefer his depiction on this show as it works quite well, even though Tombstone looks ominous to an obvious extent despite how respected he in this universe.
      Besides at least we have Kingpin as a crime lord on the 90s Animated Series and the Daredevil Netflix show, played absolutely phenomenally by Vincent D'onofrio.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 2 года назад +1

      Ironic he is writen as the Kingpin.

    • @National7575
      @National7575 2 года назад

      @Justin Gary superpowered?

  • @SpoonDude
    @SpoonDude 2 года назад +609

    “I can’t ever look the other way again” is one of my favorite lines from the show. I loved how this show subtly alluded to his origin, versus the more in your face flashbacks of the 90s animated series
    For a one villainous scene, my immediate pick is Joker revealing how he tortured Tim Drake and turned him into his “Joker junior”, ending his horrific monologue by revealing he knows Batman is Bruce Wayne. Mark Hamill’s animated Joker is arguably the definitive portrayal on TV and arguably all media outside comics, and it was chilling seeing him do something so damaging to the Bat family- especially since he’s had to be more restrained before because the animated series was targeted at kids.

    • @crangejo
      @crangejo Год назад +3

      Yo where is that Joker scene from?

    • @Partyboy22
      @Partyboy22 Год назад +4

      @@crangejo Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker

  • @meep9231
    @meep9231 2 года назад +190

    My One Villainous Scene has to be Lex Luthor's campaign reveal to Question. The whole segment of Lex telling him that he spent billions on a campaign that was ENTIRELY FAKE to make Superman paranoid was genius writing. Especially when trying to discredit the JLU with hacking the Watchtower to fire on civilians, and with Question going off on Superman when he sees the tape. Honestly, this scene perfectly showcased how far and capable Lex's genius is.

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 2 года назад +13

      I fucking LOVE that scene. The Question is definitely my favorite character in the JLU

    • @lewismartinez812
      @lewismartinez812 2 года назад +15

      When he tells the question on how much power he would lose if he became President was one of the most goosebump inducing scenes I’ve ever scene

  • @WhiteFangofWar
    @WhiteFangofWar 2 года назад +315

    Another subtle layer of genius to this scene: He never actually says he is the Big Man. For the entirety of the show Frederick Foswell, the person who was the Big Man in the comics, goes around doing suspicious things a bit like Norman Osborn. It's entirely possible that Foswell might have been revealed as the true Big Man had the show been allowed to continue, or perhaps some other twist.

    • @MagnificantSasquatch
      @MagnificantSasquatch 2 года назад +47

      He doesn’t, and that’s not any mistake. For the entirety of the show, he never once refers to himself as the Big Man, he specifically uses third person, just in case whoever he’s talking to is bugged or the like. After a ghost like Foswell took down the last Big Man, Tombstone takes no chances.

    • @randallflagg3700
      @randallflagg3700 2 года назад +8

      Indeed, it's a bit like the *Arrow* season 5 twist with Vigilante & Prometheus.
      Comic book readers knowledge is used against them to lead them into a trap, and casuals (not using the word as an insult of course) can also enjoy the season without even knowing they're missing a layer.

  • @PhazonOmega
    @PhazonOmega 2 года назад +152

    "Spectacular Spiderman is, to me, the definitive version of Spiderman outside of the comics."
    Hey, I know we just met, and I've never really heard of your channel before, but you want to go get coffee? Talk? Pick out a china pattern?

  • @captaincomic8678
    @captaincomic8678 2 года назад +72

    I have to admit, the idea of combining Tombstone and the Big Man was brilliant character design-wise, since the original Big Man's mask heavily resembled Tombstone's natural face.

  • @williampulfer-melville8536
    @williampulfer-melville8536 2 года назад +30

    2:38 it's worth noting that Tombstone was actually voiced by Keith David in his first appearance on the show

    • @sjmhadsock4586
      @sjmhadsock4586 2 года назад +3

      Yep then Kevin Michael Richardson in subsequent appearances

    • @AWeirdLizard
      @AWeirdLizard 2 года назад +3

      Was looking for this before throwing it out there myself. Can't mistake Keith David.

  • @THESLASHFIVE1
    @THESLASHFIVE1 2 года назад +17

    “I just took down the rhino, a pale guy in suit dose-“
    *S M A C K*

  • @alexandredesouza3692
    @alexandredesouza3692 2 года назад +50

    I must have watched this scene when I was 8 or something. It changed my life.
    Because until that point, everything was simple. To me, every episode of any cartoon had to end with the hero winning and the villain losing. The very thought of an ending like this had never crossed my mind. And after that I couldn't fathom Spider-Man ever coming close to defeating Tombstone.
    At that age, it was my introduction to nuanced writing, something I've been wanting to recreate ever since.

  • @master0fthearts894
    @master0fthearts894 2 года назад +23

    2:37 I like how you used Kevin as an example of some of the most scariest villains ever, but the picture you use has him look like the most nicest and wholesome guy in the universe.

  • @SirCowduck
    @SirCowduck 2 года назад +87

    I feel like Eddie Brock first becoming Venom in this show would also make a great scene for one villainous scene. It's basically been built up over the entire series to that point, with Brock's relationship with Peter falling apart throughout the season. Then he sees Spidey try to kill the symbiote, which Brock sees as the last hope for getting back his job at the lab, which sets up the symbiote being able to show that *that* was Peter too... It's such a good payoff for his entire arc up to that point.

    • @trla6505
      @trla6505 2 года назад +3

      I love the last scene brook on his knees and saying "he only love me because I hated"

    • @SirCowduck
      @SirCowduck 2 года назад +2

      @@trla6505 Oh man. When I first watched that scene I misunderstood what he meant, and thought it meant there was hope for him to let go of Venom. Rewatching and realizing I had had it completely backwards that whole time made that scene crushingly sad for me.

    • @parkerboy795
      @parkerboy795 2 года назад +7

      Yeah. Another good one was Peter's last attempt to reason with him:
      "Don't do this bro!"
      "We're not brothers! Our parents may have died together but you had your precious aunt and uncle. We had no one. We've always been alone. Until now."
      "Then we're done talking."

  • @dongeonmaster8547
    @dongeonmaster8547 2 года назад +37

    I don't remember Tombstone being so quick in the comics and I was reading them back when Tombstone came into the super strength and durability. For a long time prior to that he was just an albino thug with no super powers. This quicker version also seems smarter and thus more menacing.

    • @--CHARLIE--
      @--CHARLIE-- 2 года назад +11

      This version is their kingpin stand-in, as well as this universes version of the big man. He's basically a different character here altogether. But a much more compelling one imo.

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois 2 года назад +306

    My favorite Villainous Scene has to be Slade’s Final scene in the teen Titan ep “Haunted” where he explains to Robin how he’s the monster he’ll never be able to beat. Yes That was a vision of Slade in Robin’s head but considering the stuff we know about him, he’d definitely do something like this

    • @slospop1125
      @slospop1125 2 года назад +14

      he did don't forget Slade made it so that the "dust" from his mask would give Robin those visions

    • @shonenbois
      @shonenbois 2 года назад +3

      @@slospop1125 yeah I know

    • @RorikH
      @RorikH 2 года назад +13

      Ron Perlman played Slade so well. One of my favorite villains.

    • @maylabrown4584
      @maylabrown4584 2 года назад +7

      What's worse is that is Robin's realization of Slade: That he will never, ever truly defeat Slade.

    • @fictiontheorizer4253
      @fictiontheorizer4253 2 года назад +7

      I'm partial to the scene with Terra where Slade beats her up and then turns on the armor to control her. The look on her face as she realizes her life is no longer her own is both heart rentching and terrifying.

  • @Lawlietftw30
    @Lawlietftw30 2 года назад +29

    This set up Tombstone as a perfect thematic villain for this particular hero.
    Peter is fighting someone bigger and stronger than him. The fight is proving futile both on the micro scale (the two of them in the room) and the macro scale (where Tombstone will just keep making problems for Spiderman so petty crooks can get away with it). He is staring defeat and futility in the face, and Tombstone makes an offer. An almost perfect offer, except Peter would have to betray the very core of his superhero journey.
    "All you have to remember is to look the other way on occasion. On any occasion I choose."
    "I can't ever look the other way again."
    The themes of the story continue to play out in the fight between the characters, and I love it. Tombstone isn't just a great villain, he's a great villain FOR Spiderman.

  • @silverblade357
    @silverblade357 2 года назад +12

    I loved this interaction of Tombstone more than any version of Kingpin. Tombstone is more of a businessman than a crime boss. He exercises control over lesser criminals because chaos is bad for business. On some level, he understands and might even respects the hero's motivations, but knows the world is not so simple.
    Sadly, Spectacular was another brilliant show that got canned was too soon.

  • @mikegould6590
    @mikegould6590 2 года назад +30

    The voice acting here is so on point.

  • @milkiassamuel780
    @milkiassamuel780 2 года назад +64

    My One Villainous Scene, it would have to be *Mr Freeze and Batman's discussion scene* on Batman The Animated Series episode Heart of Ice where we immediately know everything about Freeze in a short compact scene, his motive, his tragic origin and how much of a poetic character he truly is, not to mention seeing a side to Batman that we never usually see.

    • @tcrpgfan
      @tcrpgfan 2 года назад +4

      Let me guess. The part of Batman we never usually see here is the part where he was truly horrified and angered by what happened to Victor Fries and his wife Nora.

  • @LeonardoSilva-nh2gg
    @LeonardoSilva-nh2gg 2 года назад +9

    I think the green goblin monologue in the 2002 movie with Spider man, about making a drastic decision about what to do or fight forever while threatening other people's lives is pretty good too.

  • @steele2015
    @steele2015 2 года назад +13

    My one villainous scene would easily be the hallway scene in starwars. Just becuase it shocases the power of the darth vader very well, and makes him absolutely terrifying to us the viewer. He calmly walks into the room and ignites his lightsaber, seemingly alredy knowing how this will end. As he advances, he isnt running down the hall trying to stop the plans, hes walking casually down the hallway, effortlessly dispatching every single rebel who gets near him, and some that dont. Hes taking his time, but hes not pulling any punches. Its not a fight, as you cant really hope to fight Darth Vader. Its a massacre, an execution, a butchery, and it instantly sets up who this character is, and exactly why we should fear him, and why the rebles are terrified of the emperors main enforcer.

  • @MinuteLeech2
    @MinuteLeech2 2 года назад +4

    I love when Tombstone makes a deal with black-suit Spider-man he says "Don't fight crime for a week. But if its threatening public safety I'll make an exception"

  • @scumbad7953
    @scumbad7953 2 года назад +7

    Tombstone in this series was straight cold.

  • @kanemccarthy1979
    @kanemccarthy1979 2 года назад +6

    I am so happy to see this scene and this version of tombstone get the recognition they deserve.

  • @BBmetalhead04
    @BBmetalhead04 2 года назад +4

    Honestly any Villain written by Greg Weisman are phenomenal. Xanatos from Gargoyles, Tombstone from Spectacular Spider-Man, and Vandal Savage from Young Justice are just masterminds of constructing scenarios where they always win (it’s the reason why the “Xanatos Gambit” is a tv trope).

  • @TheOvervoid
    @TheOvervoid 2 года назад +39

    Let's hope with Spidey's actor voicing Steve from Captain Carter ep, we'll get a a third season of the show. The possibility of this happening is higher than what you'd think because Marvel Animation working on new animated shows rn and they have the animation rights for the character. It would be a smart choice.

    • @spideyviewer327
      @spideyviewer327 2 года назад +9

      Except Sony owns the rights to Spectacular itself.
      Marvel does own the rights to make Spidey cartoons, but they don't have the rights to that version of the character, so they can't continue it, while Sony has the rights to Spectacular, but they can't make Spidey cartoons.
      And right now, there's no reason for either party to think working out a deal that'd allow a third season would be profitable or a good investment of money.

    • @TheOvervoid
      @TheOvervoid 2 года назад

      @@spideyviewer327 true

    • @LeonardoSilva-nh2gg
      @LeonardoSilva-nh2gg 2 года назад +2

      @@spideyviewer327 let's hope he appears in spiderverse 2

    • @cmdrjanjalani
      @cmdrjanjalani 2 года назад +3

      The legal crap was what cancelled Spectacular. It seems that neither side felt it was worth it at the time. Now even with better relations betwen Sony and Disney, it's more than a decade already.

  • @nathansheehan3334
    @nathansheehan3334 2 года назад +3

    Another great villain scene from this show came in the Season 2 Episode "Gangland" where the Green Goblin eliminated his competition and claim the title of the Big Man of Crime in one night. For most of the series he was just seen as a crazy mad man who enjoys making life hell for Tombstone and Spider-Man, but we didn't think he capable of doing anything big or smart. That all changed where in secret he summons the big crime bosses of New York(Tombstone, Silvermaine, and Doc Ock) to one place, then he tricks Hammerhead to start a fight between them, and once the dust settled no one was left but him to claim the throne which shows that he has a crafty mind behind all that laughter.

    • @AlguienCualquieraDelMundo
      @AlguienCualquieraDelMundo 9 месяцев назад +1

      Definitely the most compelling GG in any Spiderman show, not to mention him being his most evil version too

  • @thedorkknight9684
    @thedorkknight9684 2 года назад +18

    I grew up on a dvd of the first season of this show, and while i was a bit too young to truly appreciate the story, there was always something about Tombstone that just stuck with me.
    He was mesmerizing, haunting. Whenever Spidey fought the villains, I'd cheer, because i knew he'd always win. But with Tombstone, i was on the edge of my seat. He just had this terrifying quality to him that made me legitimately worried about Spidey. Tombstone's probably one of my favorite villains now, if only because of how well this series potrayed him.

  • @yinwithoutyang732
    @yinwithoutyang732 2 года назад +18

    Tombstone is such a great villain in the show. Great job, man 😃

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 2 года назад +3

      Feels weird that outside of this cartoon and his appearance in the ps4 game, Tombstone has practically Killer Moth levels of obscurity.

    • @ALIEN-DUDE
      @ALIEN-DUDE 2 года назад

      @@JaelinBezel well, he's in spiderverse and the 1994 spider man show introduced me to tombstone, so he's definitely getting a little bit of a rise in popularity.

  • @berndb23
    @berndb23 2 года назад +3

    I was going to snarkily say that Kevin Michael Richardson "just" does an incredible Keith David impression, but I looked it up and apparently he replaced him on the show (David was the first episode). That's what he was going for! Unbelievably impressive from him.

  • @GOODYGOODGOOD789
    @GOODYGOODGOOD789 11 месяцев назад +2

    4:26 Fun fact if Tombstone feels similar to the Kingpin in this that's because he was written to be because at the time Sony didn't share the rights with the Kingpin with Marvel because Fox had full rights over them because at the time it was ruled at the rights to the Kingpin went under the rights to Daredevil (you may remember Fox using him in the 2003 Daredevil movie with Ben Affleck everyone loved). So of course that had to create a substitution for him and it did work with Tombstone. Also I might add that if you are questioning why Kingpin is in Into the Spider-Verse I actually don't know the answer to that question and I can only assume (but keep in mind that this isn't fact this is purely speculation) that Sony asked Marvel for the rights and they allowed them or that the ruling changed and it was ruled he is under the rights to both Daredevil and Spider-Man.

  • @KingClovis
    @KingClovis 2 года назад +4

    I always loved Lex Luther schooling the Question in JLU.

  • @WeezerFan505
    @WeezerFan505 Год назад +1

    Kevin michael richardson has such a great voice, to a funny and wise grey jedi, to a violent and scray villain

  • @slospop1125
    @slospop1125 2 года назад +5

    The spectacular Spiderman was the first show I watched that introduced me to character depth and show me that even villains complex people

  • @christopherauzenne5023
    @christopherauzenne5023 10 месяцев назад

    I really love how this show interconnected the villains but didn’t ignore their motivations/backstories and such. Vulture, electro and lizard were very individual and unrelated but they showed tombstone a way to get Spider-Man distracted from his organized crime and that Norman role could aid him. Sandman and rhino are more petty crooks so having them be test subjects works without taking away too much from their stories, then to cover his tracks Norman sabotages doc ock/creates the goblin to sever ties with the crime syndicate. (Then later the jackal is introduced who starts aiding creating supervillains for his own scientific persuits or having mysterio, the tinkerer and chameleon be a team because their methods of villainy mesh well) It’s really brilliant

  • @Narratorway
    @Narratorway 2 года назад +1

    It is unsettling how good KMR's Keith David impersonation is in this show.

  • @luiscortazar6291
    @luiscortazar6291 2 года назад +4

    I think for me the one villainous scene would be Harry's fake out Goblin Reveal. For the actions that Harry took and the consequences he will face going forward, how it forces Norman to lay low, and lie to the person he "loves", and what it does to Peter Parker and Spiderman for the rest of the series. After coming back to NY, he tells flash he was on drugs while playing, he got them further and Flash injuried himself to win the championship. Whether it was a sense of integrity or for the girl he tells everyone about it and the championship is taken away. Everyone still respects Flash, and he's even grown to respect himself, but Harry is now a parriah, he cost the team everything they sacrificed, and Harry feels alone more than ever. He places that burden on Gwen, who doesn't feel the same, it crushes him and he begins to use his father's "death" as tool to keep her.

  • @uncannydcmarvelous5732
    @uncannydcmarvelous5732 2 года назад +14

    2:40 I thought it was Keith David, and KMR replaced him on Season 2.

    • @themikx2939
      @themikx2939 2 года назад +9

      Keith David did his voice in the pilot episode but it was KMR who did it every time after that

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 2 года назад

      @@themikx2939 Ahhhh yeah that makes sense. I was so confused.

  • @dariusbrock2713
    @dariusbrock2713 2 года назад +1

    My favorite villainous scene has to be from this show itself but involving the Green Goblin. He systematically used spider-man to take down the crime bosses one by one only to swoop in and fill the vacuum and become the only Bigman of crime in NYC. Manipulated hammerhead into betraying tombstone, funded the sinister 6 as norman osborn only to have them destroy the competition along with themselves and ofc spider-man himself to eliminate the loose ends like Tombstone. The most meticulous and cunning plot ever, really showed Osborn's intelligence as a businessman and his ruthless drive for power. He did win the war for a brief period until he had to fake his death and escape

  • @ihavespoken9871
    @ihavespoken9871 Год назад +1

    2:38 Thank you so much for pointing that out! Kevin Michael Richardson is such an underrated and talented voice actor and deserves so much more credit for his work.

  • @alexlemonds2838
    @alexlemonds2838 2 года назад +2

    Tombstone should've been the big bad in ASM2.
    Think about it: Peter's searching for Uncle Ben's killer,
    busting up robberies, drug dens, smuggling, human trafficking, etc.
    Pissing off the wrong people, who ultimately inform their boss.
    Lonnie T. Lincoln a.k.a. Tombstone. Charity organizer by day,
    head gangster by night.
    Including him, having Spidey tackle organized crime,
    fits the first movie's gritty, street level sensibilities.

  • @RaggedyManCosplay
    @RaggedyManCosplay 2 года назад +4

    Kevin Michael Richardson did take over for Tombstone in the show, but this scene was Keith David's doing.

    • @Barghaest
      @Barghaest 2 года назад +1

      Was going to say it sounded more like Keith David and he’s got a pretty distinct voice. My favorite voice role is him doing Vhailor in Planescape: Torment.

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 2 года назад

      @@Barghaest Um, Goliath from Gargoyles?

    • @Barghaest
      @Barghaest 2 года назад +2

      @@SRosenberg203 Oh, all his voice work is excellent: Goliath, Spawn, and the Arbiter are probably the most recognized but I really got immersed in the story of Planescape: Torment and the character Vhailor was very interesting to me.

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 2 года назад +1

      @@Barghaest That's true, he's been in a lot of shit, and he's fantastic in all of it. I also remember him in live-action as one of the Generals from Armageddon who was like "Why can't we just nuke the asteroid!?!"

  • @jmmproductions6741
    @jmmproductions6741 2 года назад +2

    Tombstone was really the one character that frightened me when I watched this show as a kid. Sure, Venom was more scary, but when Tombstone stood up, then just starting beating the crap out of Spidey like nothing, I had an "Oh shit" moment.

  • @educatedlaziness3268
    @educatedlaziness3268 2 года назад +5

    It's a niche role that not many people today would know him for but whenever I hear Kevin's voice I immediately go back to Baldur's Gate, and his role as the main antagonist, Sarevok

    • @OceanicManiac
      @OceanicManiac 2 года назад +2

      I knew i recognized that voice, im playing through BG:EE right now for the first time, pretty good so far, but the time it takes to level up is a bit annoying

  • @tabiusthompson8101
    @tabiusthompson8101 2 года назад +6

    This is one of my favorite scenes of this Series .

  • @antaresmaelstrom5365
    @antaresmaelstrom5365 2 года назад +1

    "I've been called many names, my favourite is tombstone."
    Me: "I'm partial to Zima Blue."

  • @mr.brightside2665
    @mr.brightside2665 2 года назад +2

    I think that was tombstones way of saying "If you're good at something never do it for free "

  • @XericSol
    @XericSol 2 года назад +2

    Trigun: The introduction of Legato Bluesummers. Still chilling to this day.

  • @ultraironicman1853
    @ultraironicman1853 4 дня назад

    “Let me teach you the facts of life.” L. Thompson Lincoln

  • @protocol4043
    @protocol4043 2 года назад +1

    1:41 He got back slapped. No spider sense helping him there.

  • @puffpuffpassmako
    @puffpuffpassmako 2 месяца назад

    One thing that is never pointed out is Peter's spider sense doesnt go off before getting smacked across the room. Thats cause Peter didnt see Tombstone as a threat whatsoever, only saw him as a greedy crime boss that hides in his tower. Really shows how Tombstone hides his physical attributes. He doesnt boast about it or make a big deal of it. He just smacks Spidey across the room and fades him into the ground in seconds without saying a word. Really love that Tombstone is so good at keeping his cover, he tricks Peters spider sense

  • @almostshawn3230
    @almostshawn3230 2 года назад +2

    What I love if this reveal is I assumed "the Big Man" would always be Kingpin. And then Tombstone shows up.

  • @blackknight3699
    @blackknight3699 2 года назад +4

    My favorite scene is when thanos explains what happened to titan the music and lines such a perfect moment ❤️🧡💛💙💜💚

  • @jackfoxx6351
    @jackfoxx6351 2 года назад +4

    Slade(technically an hallucination) fighting robin in the dark on the 200's teen titans would be the scene I would had picked.

  • @JeremyBelpoisX
    @JeremyBelpoisX 5 месяцев назад

    Tombstone was voiced by Keith David in the pilot, but KMR took over (as he was more affordable I think, most likely) but in this scene, he reached that gravitas that Goliath is known for. KMR was always a gem for me, but this took it above and beyond.

  • @airay053
    @airay053 2 года назад +5

    God I miss this show

  • @ichigo11220
    @ichigo11220 2 года назад +1

    This scene was what made tombstone more formidable than kingpin for me

  • @jeremycrouch4356
    @jeremycrouch4356 2 года назад +17

    My one villainous scene would be from an anime called Overlord. There are a number of moments you could choose from. I have them all listed below. Some still sound a bit strange if you haven't seen the show however, and the main reason there are so many is that the main characters are the bad guys. Most of them are far more evil than anyone else in the series. I'd greatly recommend it, but know that some of the fanservice scenes are a tad chringy at times, and it is incredibly dark the further you get into it.
    Season one, the main character's first experience with the people of the new world, his interaction with the people they worked for, the Dance of Death.
    Season two, the Royal Procession, Cocytus vs the Lizardmen army, the lesson to overcome the fear of Death, what it means to be unworthy of life, the proof of loyalty, the Eight Fingers, Zero vs Sebas, Mare finds the most important person in the house, Demierge vs the Blue Roses, Explaining the Plan.
    Season three, Ains meets with the Giant of the East, the gladiator match, the massicar in the Empire, Tea Time, Death sits upon the throne, applaud the Great One, PVP, Momon vs Ains.

    • @enumaelish9193
      @enumaelish9193 2 года назад +1

      My guy. You should pick up the Light Novels if you're into that there is some messed up stuff in there I'm not sure they can animate.

    • @jeremycrouch4356
      @jeremycrouch4356 2 года назад +1

      @@enumaelish9193 I have, and I know. I just thought I'd mention the anime stuff since you can watch it.

    • @CrownofMischief
      @CrownofMischief 2 года назад

      My favorite one is where he really decides he just wants to flex on the lizard men and changes the weather, freezes an entire swamp, has an army of undead equipped with high level equipment(only to be used as stairs), had a giant golem that was just there to throw a podium, and then had one of his generals kill off the high level summons he used just to deliver a message

    • @jeremycrouch4356
      @jeremycrouch4356 2 года назад

      @@CrownofMischief that would be 'The Royal Procession'. I tried to use mainly vague titles, what they're called on Crunchyroll or what the characters call the situation so I don't spoil too much.

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 2 года назад

      Ains one shotting the Knight dude was probably the best villainous scene he ever had.

  • @tenkenroo
    @tenkenroo 2 года назад +1

    The gangland episode of spectacular Spider-Man was perhaps the best Spider-Man media ever

  • @raymond-reviews
    @raymond-reviews 2 года назад +2

    This show to this day has my favorite version of Tombstone.

  • @seanwhitehall4652
    @seanwhitehall4652 Год назад

    1:44 if you slow down and/or go frame by frame, Tombstone has his hand up to catch Spidey's fist before it's even raised.

  • @williampulfer-melville8536
    @williampulfer-melville8536 2 года назад +2

    I always had a feeling that Tombstone used to be picked on a lot as a kid to due to his albinoism

  • @MatheusYami
    @MatheusYami 2 года назад

    That was really an epic scene and great choice from you to analyse it, great video!

  • @benmosley3190
    @benmosley3190 2 года назад +1

    That fight scene in the sewers was amazing (or Spectacular)!

  • @jorgeperez2872
    @jorgeperez2872 2 года назад

    HOOOOOOLY... I just love this Spiderman series.

  • @CreatureCal
    @CreatureCal 2 года назад +2

    1:54
    Is pool used as symbolism in the show? Tombstone has a lot of pool table related scenes and so did Green Goblin in the Molten Man episode.

  • @Protocol36
    @Protocol36 2 года назад +3

    Tombstone is so good in the show! Awesome video as always, man!

  • @iBenjamin1000
    @iBenjamin1000 2 года назад

    I might have to make a note of this series. That's some really good voice acting and I like the character designs too.

  • @CormDaCrow
    @CormDaCrow 2 года назад +1

    Wait Tombstone and 2004 Joker are voice by the same person!?
    Jesus that guy has a massive amount of range

  • @manuelc1664
    @manuelc1664 Год назад +1

    I’ve always been scared of tombstone he one of my favorite villains in the series.

  • @funakfunak2740
    @funakfunak2740 2 года назад

    This is by far my favourite scene of my favourite spiderman series, great choice.

  • @dearheroine9280
    @dearheroine9280 Год назад

    Great scene to choose, and even greater analysis.

  • @radrno7
    @radrno7 2 года назад +1

    I like how this Tombstone is a crime boss compared to all his other counterparts. Basically it's like we already meet him as a level 100 mobster, where as other iterations keep him at the level 10.
    If there ever came to be a story showing Tombstone rise to power, facing low level thugs like the Enforcers to the top of the Maggia mafia, with the likes of Hammerhead and the ultimate head of New York underground world, Kingpin... that would be awesome.

  • @eidaxiel
    @eidaxiel Год назад

    Spidey here got beaten down so fast that his peter tingle didn't even get to react from the first strike.

  • @griffgileatsbread9500
    @griffgileatsbread9500 2 года назад +1

    Kevin Michael Richardson does an amazing job! But Kieth David has also done a great job voicing tombstone in Spectacular Spiderman too. Both amazing voice actors who can give some of the most intense performances one can find.

  • @IftiAlam1999
    @IftiAlam1999 2 года назад +1

    Tombstone as a mob boss is way cooler and menacing than a petty criminal and a biker gang leader.

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 2 года назад +1

    Love this video, so glad to see Tombstone getting some respect!

  • @Adamax93
    @Adamax93 Год назад

    Spectacular Spider-Man is the best Spider-Man cartoon. Hands down.

  • @austinmorrison6953
    @austinmorrison6953 4 месяца назад

    They fused Tombstone with the Kingpin to make a truly memorable and threatening villain. I think the last portrayal I loved as much as this version was the PS4 Tombstone. And yeah he gave an epic boss fight and was a key player in part of that game’s plot, he still wasn’t as…shall we say refined or as eloquent as this variant. This Tombstone really does live up to his name as The Big Man.

  • @MarkARoutt
    @MarkARoutt 2 года назад

    Wish I had the video capabilities to do stuff like this. Love breaking down characters.

  • @_thomas1031
    @_thomas1031 2 года назад +1

    I hadn't expected A SPECTACULAR SPIDERMAN VILLIAN in this series! A pleasant surprise 😆👌

  • @omalleycaboose5937
    @omalleycaboose5937 2 года назад

    I'm glad you picked Tombstone. I don't know anything about him outside this show but man I love him in this show

  • @civilwarfare101
    @civilwarfare101 2 года назад +1

    Tombstone was probably my first introduction to Kevin Michael Richardson, I legit thought he was Keith David lol. He's always my favorite character in everything he is in lol.

    • @SRosenberg203
      @SRosenberg203 2 года назад

      Apparently Keith David voiced him in the first few episodes, and KMR voiced him in the rest. I was super confused too lmao

    • @civilwarfare101
      @civilwarfare101 2 года назад

      @@SRosenberg203
      I recall Keith David only voicing him in Episode 1

  • @yumatsukumo1096
    @yumatsukumo1096 2 года назад

    One of the best scenes in the show hands down

  • @ElJorro
    @ElJorro 2 года назад

    This is probably my favorite scene in the entire series and Tombstone my favorite villain.

  • @IccyTheOne
    @IccyTheOne 2 года назад +1

    This iteration of Tombstone and Spiderman ps4 one are the best ones.

  • @jihef03
    @jihef03 Год назад

    Great video! And while this scene is mostly about Tombstone, I do love how it's pointed that criminals are legitmaly afraid of Spider-Man. It's a good reminder.

  • @radspiderjackson
    @radspiderjackson 2 года назад

    it was nice seeing spidey get slapped up a bit

  • @datsunracer9378
    @datsunracer9378 Год назад +1

    Would love to see Tombstone in a live action Spiderman movie.

  • @Colejones9505
    @Colejones9505 Год назад

    This is most likely my favorite version of tombstone a man that is both a threat in brawn and brains. I really like how they made him a intelligent business man instead of just the muscle for someone else makes him more of a threat.

  • @dalenlewin
    @dalenlewin 2 года назад

    Such an underutilized villain, very interesting and working in the shadows while possessing a fighting style that allows him to be able to take down Spider-Man, and he’s in only a few episodes. They were probably going to do something more with him, but then the series got canceled.

  • @guywithrevolver
    @guywithrevolver 2 года назад

    Kamek dishes out the facts of life

  • @thenotrealslimshady7402
    @thenotrealslimshady7402 2 года назад

    I think one of the best scenes would be from justice league crisis on two earths. Regarding owl man speech to superwoman about his plan to destroy earth, and the pursuit of proving the only real outcome there is in existence, which is to destroy it

  • @joe77andino
    @joe77andino 2 года назад

    Dam that a good pick best Spidey animation .

  • @davidcase8635
    @davidcase8635 7 месяцев назад

    He's no Wilson Fisk, but Tombstone makes a good Kingpin. In fact, this version of Tombstone kinda reminds me of Tobias Whale from DC's Black Lightning show.

  • @Draftsman_MC1300
    @Draftsman_MC1300 2 года назад +2

    So tombstone is just ridiculously strong right? Cuz Spider-Man catches buses basically on the regular and maxes at about 10 tons. Dude should be able to curb stomp just about anyone.
    EDIT: though I do realize that this is supposed to be a young Spider-Man, also it takes around 5 TONS of force to do what Tombstone did to that 8-ball

    • @Frogman1212
      @Frogman1212 2 года назад +1

      Probably caught spidey unawares. He never starts with his full strength unless it's like Green Goblin, Rhino, Venom, etc. And in that scene he just saw a guy in a suit.

    • @Draftsman_MC1300
      @Draftsman_MC1300 2 года назад

      @@Frogman1212 true

    • @Draftsman_MC1300
      @Draftsman_MC1300 2 года назад

      @@Frogman1212 even then he doesn’t use his FULL strength, case in point being when Ock swapped bodies with him in Superior Spider-Man and then proceeded haul off on scorpion and relieve him of his lower jaw.

    • @Frogman1212
      @Frogman1212 2 года назад

      @@Draftsman_MC1300 Yeah true. Whenever he fights the hulk he acts like he's outmatched but he takes Hulk's punches like the best of em. Spidey doesn't give himself enough credit.