Using the brakes properly in a corner saved my ass last week. Spotted a car speeding on the wrong side of the road in a blind corner. Managed to use the brakes to slow the bike down and turn quickly to get out of the way. I appreciate the work you put into these videos Fast Eddie💪🏿
We all noobs at some point..where we used to think front braking is like front braking bicycle that it will lift u forward to a crash or rear brake on turns will automatically slide rear tire..then the more you ride all this will come naturally..like even with a little lean on turn little support from both brake is a very very huge help..and using front brake is actually your best friend in any situations
This is probably stating the obvious - but it’s amazing how quickly practice seems to pay dividends. I was on a tight narrow blind chicane on a road near me, with my daughter on the back, I was just starting to flick the bike over when a bus came round the corner and was way over the line - I didn’t decide what to do but I got on the brakes soft all the way up-to hard and picked a new line without a thought. It was kind of a ‘where did that come from moment’ - but clearly it was an unconscious reflex that came from conscious practice. I still can’t quite believe how much brake pressure I built up with it leaned over. Practice folks ! It does more than your realise.
This just proves that if you're good at what you're doing - you don't need high-tech graphics and expensive production! Absolutely love your one-take videos. You're really good at explaining these things.
Ah yes, but just imagine how cool it would be if he had animation showing the dude wearing board shorts and flip flops flying off the Cliff and getting eaten by a shark!
I am a new rider and quickly realized that I could use the front brake as long as it wasn't too much pressure. Thank you so much for reinforcing that technique. It's all about being smooth with those controls and getting comfortable. I still have so much to learn.
Exactly right James...wish more riders understood what you do already. You have a bright future ahead. Check out MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
New rider too and I admit I’m skurred to try this. I’ll have to pick a nice corner with no traffic and get brave. Typically I REALLY focus on slowing enough BEFORE the lean.
@@lunamcnally2062 Luna the pressure you're looking for is basically not much more than what actually activate the brake light in the rear of the motorcycle. You can actually practice this in the garage by putting it in neutral rocking your bike back-and-forth and just slowly engage the front brake to you feel some resistance that's about what you could start utilizing in your cornering and you should be absolutely fine. It's when you mash that front brake you really asking for trouble. I am sure their are others here that could chime in and have some helpful comments. Good luck and enjoy the ride.
I certainly admire your patience in consistently bringing the same message to your audience albeit with new and insightful examples. Learn from the experts aka take courses, and shut up and practice. You can’t improve without a commitment to both. Thanks Greg. It’s a message we can’t hear too often!
A well executed corner is a great feeling! I’ve learned lots from your videos and when I get sloppy on a turn I’m embarrassed because I know better. Hitting the apex of the turn at the right speed and lean along with following through is magical when it’s perfect! Thanks Fast Eddie!
Just bought the app - nice work! Love having all the info and videos in one easy place. Almost ready to get back on the road after a long New England winter. I like to watch one of your videos than go out and consciously practice what I’ve learned. Thanks for helping to keep an old experienced rider alive! Always learning is the smart way to stay safe.
Summary : don't hesitate to brake in corners, brake until you're going on the right path, and when leaning in a curb, slowly release the brake in order not to lose the grip.
I’ve been on bikes for 20 years but primarily rode dirt. I picked up my first sportbike last year and these videos and reading a twist of the wrist II have been a huge help getting transitioned. I try to watch one of these every time before I go out and focus on a new technique. Thanks for all the tutorials!
I had a right turn crash because, as a new rider, I believed that myth: thou shalt not use the brakes in a turn. Luckily some skin rash was all I got out of it. Great video! Very clear and easy to understand.
Thank you; best advice ever. I used to go way outside to way inside to way outside. I had no room for error. I feel so much more opportunity to adjust staying a little closer to the middle.
Thanks for this video reminder. The other day I was talking to a friend with loads more years riding than myself and stunningly he said trail braking doesn’t exist, just break before the corner. When coming too fast into a corner or in the twisties I use to trail brake, saves me from several injuries. Think is something you have to master through training. Cheers to you
I am so happy I watch your videos. This scenario literally happened to me when I first started riding. Coming home from work during rush hour, with a bus on my tail, at an intersection. Trying to put distance between me and the bus, went into the turn too fast. You will learn to lean your bike and brake VERY quickly when your only other option is to hit the first or second car sitting at the light over the double yellow lol
Great advice and explanation. If you can afford a bike with "cornering ABS", this scenario is a perfect example of where it can act as a safety net preventing a lowside by riders who do not have a perfect sense of how much brake they can use
Technology won't prevent a low side...no technology will prevent crappy technique. This is a perfect example of learning how to use the brakes...not a perfect example of thinking some technology will save you. Check out MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
Brakes should be your best friend, not technology. If you can't do what you can on a bike with no technology vs a bike with all of it, you need to step your skill up.
@@MotoJitsu Skill is ideal, but I think you are forgetting the fact that humans often panic. Electronics help when the rider freaks out or makes an incorrect judgement. Insurance studies show that 30% less people die on motorcycles with ABS - so I don't think it's fair to call technology useless
I'm forgetting the fact that humans often panic? Is that what I'm doing? I've been a motorcycle instructor for almost 7 years now, know all about riders who panic...have more technology on their bikes wouldn't have helped any but only given a false sense of security. I never said it was useless...just not to be relied upon like a magic cheat code.
Been following your videos since your long hair days 🤣 and as a direct result, my life has been saved, not because of avoiding action but because I never have any need to do it. Thank you 👍👏👏
*Many thanks for your great content!* Just started using trail braking with my Road King _( after learning from you )_ and came around a corner to find an auto accident scene. My speed and control were never in doubt. Works as advertised;)
@@MotoJitsu Got it. Bought your books and the app. Many thanks. _( BTW, I am probably the only person on earth who didn't know what googlePlay meant.)_
First, I find your videos straight forward, easy to understand, and based in factual information. I've been around for a while, I did some road racing when I was a younger man, but still ride fast. I could never explain how, and why I did what I did to get around the track/road, it just seemed the right thing to do, instinct. Your videos, and others are now putting words, and logic to the explanations I could never seem to express myself. Thanks. Second, I think there is another scenario when you come into a corner too hot. Get onto the brakes heavy(not too sharply), shift your weight to the inside in preparation for the turn, go deep into the corner, this will allow you to better see what is ahead, at this point you might have a better idea of your options. Best case: ease up on the brakes, late apex, swing her over, still scrubbing speed, stay in your lane, and exit the turn. Ok case: still too hot, but no oncoming traffic, same as before, but you need to use the other lane. Worst case: still too hot, and/or oncoming traffic which will not allow you to use the other lane, then try and to stop. Of course this may be too much to ask for a beginning rider, and there is not much time to think about this, if any. Your option would be the best, all things being equal, but there may be something on the pavement that may not allow for that line. I wish your videos were around when I started. Keep it up.
Welcome. There's no option to "try and lowside" I had to lay 'er down just translates to "I have no idea what I'm doing" stay with the brakes to get the bike to slow down, if there's a pothole or dead squirrel, try not to hit it MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
@@MotoJitsu My point was, if you are in way too hot, and you all else fails, crossing over to the far shoulder and making an effort to stop, preferable on two wheels. This is assuming there is traffic coming in the opposite direction, which could lead to disastrous consequences if you stayed there. Sometimes there are only bad options, pick your poison. I am sure we would both agree to have the smarts not to get yourself into that position to begin with, but since your channel seems to cater to more than a few new riders they may have a tendency make more & bigger mistakes, as we all have and do, keeping them small is my goal at least.
My channel is for everyone...not for any type of rider regardless of experience. I will never tell people to "try and lowside on the opposite shoulder" no matter what circumstance they're in. That's not a technique to know or learn or practice therefore irrelevant and useless to mention.
Awesome review Fast Eddie! As you’re taking I’m picturing in my head a ride I had two weekends ago and experienced the same scenario. Your voice came on and said, “use the breaks”. Yup, lightly I used them, trailed through and it worked. I safely came out of it. Thanks!
Nice illustration. Radius=mph. Explains why we are using the brakes. Lean angle staying the same - Higher speed larger turn radius. Lower speed smaller turn radius. Engine braking although reduces your speed is no where near as good as your brakes to reduce speed.
You're coming in too fast for your comfort, use the brakes for sure....that is the #1 control to go for. Check out MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
I have only had 2 or 3 bad scares in the last 18 years of riding but have to say, your advice here is excellent. One time in particular when I came hot into a tight corner, I still had a generous 60 feet of straight line left before entering the corner and I found braking hard in a short straight line just before entering scrubbed lots of speed and got me down to a completely manageable speed to complete the corner within my skill level.
Hey thanks man! I will practice this type of coming in too hot braking at slower speeds in the parking lots. The braking technique is clearly imperative for all situations before I even get on public roads!
Another excellent lesson, as usual. Now that the bike is out of hibernation and had a fresh oil change it is time to practice like hell. Will try getting into a class soon, life is sweet! Thanks again for what you do!
I recommend watching Nick Ianatsche’s brake light initiative. You absolutely can squeeze the brakes too hard and fast and stand the bike up in the middle of a turn! Being lightly on the brakes before the turn is a ride changing practice. Yes, you can judiciously apply the brakes at many lean angles but as Nick Ianatsche recommends as you increase lean angle you should decrease brake pressure aka trailing off. Being happy with your speed and direction is his mantra.
ABS on my BMW K1200RS saved my butt several times riding in the Blueridge mountains when I underestimated a curve. I’ll never have another bike without ABS, it’s a lifesaver.
I do this almost every corner when riding sporty.. I brake hard while leaning (and countersteering) and let of the brake progressively towards the apex.. transforms the confidence in turns for me.
You're coming into a corner too fast, of course you won't keep the throttle on, you roll off the gas to 0% and get onto the brakes. Go ride and play with small amounts of brake pressure mid-turn and feel the effects and do a lot of stopping very quickly in a straight line to get to know the brakes very well. Check out MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
Na thanks to you man, these new riders need a go to guy for advice and knowledge.. Keep up the good work fella also love the scooter, I've got a x9 500 lol its a bit shit but i love it 😂
Also, as you trail brake with the front brake, it changes the geometry of the bike reducing the rake and shortening the wheel base which allows the bike to turn sharper.
I've been trying to find a good balance as a newer street rider. Trying to learn to judge my entry speed and implement trail braking when needed. Often I've found it's good to keep steady throttle throughout the corner to keep the bike's geometry planted.
Thank you. Been a subscriber for a while . Riding the Tail of the Dragon today in TN. This was a good reminder .. I'm a huge proponent of trail braking. Thanks for your help.!
Using delayed apex on a blind turn along with using the front brake to load up the forms and the contact patch of the tire has saved my butt so many times!
Yo what up bro by me doing that exact braking you're describing actually saved my life just the other day so thank u for making this video bcuz I now knw without a doubt I did the right thing correcting my wrong doing approaching too fast into a turn and to not buy into the myth of not braking at all in a turn so thanks bro and keep doing what u do...bcuz most if not all of us appreciate it trust me!
Your welcome. I asked a question on a different vid of yours. Can you refresh my memory on which vid talked about your "Turn in Late " for curves philosophy ? It was very helpful, but I need to re watch getting ready for riding season here in Virginia. Thanks again Fast Edddie.
Videos on line selection...but it doesn't really matter because on the street...I start somewhere on the outside-ish and only really go towards the middle of the lane, the back to the outside...so however early or late I turn it, doesn't really matter since I'm only going to the middle anyway.
Hey Motojitsu! Just paid for your app today and it's amazing! Helps me practise more because of the convenience xD Great stuff and thanks again for your videos 😁
From what I learned , in streets always load the front brakes ( very )slightly in a corner, until you see the exit. This will shift weight to front and reduce the trail of the bike , and more contact patch on front tyre. And even if we see an unexpected obstacles , we have already loaded front brakes , we can grab it even further to slow down without surprising the tyre.
My instinct was from Champ School training where they drill in "100 points of traction" - so lean takes some away, brakes take some away, and zero throttle means you can do a lot of the first two. Just progressively. Brake to remove your kinetic energy, and lean to direct what's left. Everything always smoothly. Smoothness comes with practice.
Good description of what the hands feet and body should be doing. Kind of disappointed there wasn't more focus on what the head and eyeballs should be doing. This situation is 9 times out of 10 going to be in an unfamiliar corner. Coming in to any corner too hot is stressful. Training or instinct will determine if the rider turns through safely or target fixates on a spot on the guardrail or a passing car. It is absolutely *critical* that head and those eyeballs are physically forced to be facing where they need to be to get the rest of the package where it needs to go. Keep up the good work, love your stuff 🤙
I mention look through the turn, but if you don't get the bike to slow down, going to be a bad day. Check out MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, etc. Thanks for watching.
Very proven..stay with the brakes till its slowed down enough to be pointed in the right direction and slowly releasing it simultaneously pickin up the throttle to remove lean..thanks sir Greg..
Also, 1) force yourself to look through the corner where you WANT to go - do not target fixate on where you DON'T want to go, and 2) your tires likely have significantly more grip than you think.
of course, but if you don't slow the bike down, it's going to be bad...I mention vision. MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, etc. Thanks for watching!
From my understanding, the concept explained here is trail braking in which you begin braking before the corner (and before the bike is leaned over). What should you do if you find yourself in a situation where you are in a considerable lean mid corner (without activating the brakes) and there is a hazard ahead? Great video as always :)
Trail braking is getting onto the brakes before the corner with no lean angle...then as you start to lean, you slowly release brake pressure in relation to how much you lean. The best thing to do is not hit the hazard...so go around it..if you have to go over it, get the bike upright as much as possible before hitting it...so adding body position will help and slowing down as much as you can before hitting it too.
On a side note, with skill and breaking correctly- I had to use some emergency breaking today for the first time. Light changed yellow- cars were going, the one in front of me decided not to go and just hit the breaks. I had about a car length and a half with damp roads from rain early in the AM. Didn’t panic, just applied progressive to firm breaking pressure and just came to a stop. Didn’t even think about it, just did it. It’s pretty crazy how skills are just in your head bouncing around till you need them.
I’m going to use this in my Motogp20. I always miss those sharp turns. Now I know the technique. I’m inclined to follow that pink line, seems like a default thing to do. Thanks for pointing the right method.
thanks will visit that link you shared. motogp20, just a ps4 game with a tiny bit of realism. I love motorbikes unfortunately that’s the only closest thing I can possess right now 😂
I find these videos about trail braking so perplexing. I spent my youth offroad so I just assumed that everyone used brakes in the corner like this. You quickly learn just how much you can/cannot brake in corners, but it's a skill you must use. To think there are so many street riders that won't even consider braking in corners baffles my mind
Most people have no idea how much they can do because they're never taught it at a high level place like Yamaha Champions Riding School taught by high level current professional racers. Share this video and check out MotoJitus.com for my app, books, merch, etc. :)
When I started riding I had a couple of episodes where I came too fast in the corner and as a beginner I panicked and went over the line. I didn’t crash just went super wide because of the speed. Luckily for me there never was upcoming traffic. Since then I learned to not go too fast especially on a road that I’m not completely familiar with.
Once, on my 1979 GS750, i took a corner way too fast. I could not lean any further as the exhaust was scraping on the street and threatening to pivot the rear wheel of the tarmac. I pulled the bike up straight and went full on the brakes. And into the dry ditch next to the road...
Another great video! I watch you and Jerry @ ride like a pro. He has even made positive references to your videos.....thanks much and keep up the good work, btw, your charts and drawings are the best !
Very educational video. But what do you do with the throttle while in the curve? Is it rolled off? Or do you keep a bit of "maintenance" throttle during the turn?
Going into a turn, you generally roll off the gas and maybe use the brakes to slow yourself down to your comfort. This video isn't about anything you're asking...I have other videos about that.
One thing that might help i would mention is don’t down shift in the turn to use engine braking. It sounds good on the surface but it can cause a lot of bad things form upsetting the geometry to locking up the rear wheel. Just brake.
One good thing my trainer told to get how hard you can apply front breaks and be really safe while cornering. With no ignition just standing near you bike try to push the bike forward and while pushing gently apply the front break. At some point bike will stop due to breaks pressure. So till that point you can apply the front break while cornering with no risk.
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. I remember watching a video that explained that a tire only has so much traction and combining leaning with braking can exceed the amount of available traction. I don't have a sense yet of what the limits are for the tires, but I have it in my mind that I shouldn't lean hard and brake hard at the same time.
@@MotoJitsu The idea is explained in a youtube video called 100 POINTS OF GRIP with CHAMPSCHOOL's Nick Ienatsch. The concept is that a tire starts with 100 points of grip. Lean angle and brake pressure make up the points. If the lean angle is zero, the break pressure can be 100%. If the lean angle is 50%, break pressure can be 50%. It might be a simplistic way to look at it, but it has stuck with me.
I was existing a freeway and the exit turned into a tight curve. I was a little too fast. Thanks for the countersteering move I could clear the curve. If I didn't countersteered I would have crashed
It's not necessarily should be "trail braking", you can get on the brakes mid turn, also most likely you need to lean more. So if you're going wide - slightly apply brakes, look as far into the turn as you can, and lean more(push that handlebar, it won't push itself)
Thanks for such a great explanation. I have one question on a different topic. Might sound silly, but haven't been able to figure out myself. While taking a turn/corner we should look into the turn. What should we do when riding at night, as there's no light around the corner.
Good stuff. Too much breaking. Been there done that. I thought I would low side I was so far over on my super hawk. I had two months on a sport bike with no training. I came into a 120 degree corner chasing a skilled rider. I accepted that I was going to wreck into the oncoming old growth maple tree. I let off the brake completely to give all available traction. I leaned the bike to grind the pegs. 15 minutes later we stopped for gas. I was still shaking. The methods taught here are ok but would have ended up with me dead or broke if I followed them. The best teacher is experience. I learned young on dirt. This video is good info. you will not be able to react to a surprise in any way other than your subconscious reaction. The only way to change that is with training.
Best teachers are high level teachers like those at Yamaha Champions Riding School and American Supercamp because the instructors are the best....current professional racers. MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
wife and were two up on our Harley U.C. going to Yellowstone. from wa.st. going north on 89 toward Jackson. I came around sweeping corner about 60, heres this mule deer standing its head just over the centerline. I think I will go into the other lane scoot past. the deer decides to start moving forward. I had to lean hard right and just squeaked around the back, stood the bike up, here's deer two standing there, I leaned the bike over hard left and squeeze past in front of it. this all happened in milliseconds, no braking, with no throttle changes. I did end up with a case of shingles that my doctor said was the worst case she had seen in her 25 year career.
Don't jump on any brake...but the front brake should be your go-to brake since it's the most powerful...if you that's not your first instinct, need to practice more and learn how to use it better. Check out MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, etc. Thanks for watching.
@@MotoJitsu That's a good reminder. I tend to rely too heavily on 'engine breaking' but this isn't the best tactic if you have approached a corner to fast.
Given a certain radius of a corner and friction of your tire, there is a maximum speed that your bike can physically travel through that curve. If you're going too fast into the corner or increase speed during, your bike will understeer or worse break traction/wipe-out. That's why these racers enter fast and modulate speed/hold brakes during the corner like Greg says to reach or maintain that maximum possible speed. Bc theyre racing lol
I practice front brake stopping all the time high speed also in turns. I feel it’s really effective in downhill turns.I worked on top of mountain for years . I remember early on getting to hot going downhill.I feel more accurate with pressure using my hand . Really had and have to practice back braking. Easy to overdo to me even a different pair of boots you better get the feel down. Just my opinion
Yes, learning how to get your bike to slow very quickly, even mid-turn is the point of this video. check out MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, etc. :)
when coming in hot, i will often brake HEAVY early, turning in late while letting up on the brake then release the brake as early as possible. of course this would be an unplanned exercise. i think most people panic and hammer the front brake 1/2 way through the turn washing out the front wheel, or low siding. staying on the brakes in a panic turn seems very dangerous, the risk of locking up the front or rear is high. the more speed you can scrub before the turn gives you less energy to deal with in the turn. I don't doubt you are right but skill is the big variable. practice with those brakes and knowing the limits of your bike, tires and skill is criticle.
I remember when I started riding I was going to meet my friend, but instead of taking a turn at intersection I thought I needed to do it earlier ( thanks google maps ). I was going ~40mph and the turn was 90* to a parking lot surrounded by cones that are mounted to asphalt. Fortunately after watching tons of your s dandanfireman’s videos, it sank in my head that you shouldn’t panic. I did my best to brake as much as possible and my head was pointed in the right direction. Fortunately, I was able to make it and not crash.
Nice. I don't think I've said "you shouldn't panic" it's an automatic response…you don't have a choice. What I focus on is the techniques of what to do. MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merchandise, affiliate links, etc. Thanks for watching & check out my other videos, over 300 to go through :)
Some times the problem comes from not enough signage indicating how bad these corners can actually be. Many a time I've come across signs indicating that a real nasty bend is coming up, so you slow down and then you wonder where this bend actually is.
( cruiser ) I tend to turn too early and then have to correct mid turn. I used to do this more when I was starting out. But I still do it sometimes. I also now brake into the corner ( front brake ) and drag it a bit toward the apex. Now granted I'm not going fast at all.
:) nothing to do with speed...more about being in control and modulating your radius with brakes and throttle, not so much lean angle. MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merch, etc.
I’m not a pro rider but in my experience you are just dragging the front or rear brakes just ever so slightly. Maybe Greg can expand in a reply he always replies
Also I’m pretty sure it’s mostly front brake. It just feels better to me but I can’t explain why. Maybe because you’re loading the front forks as you use front brake. I can’t explain exactly why but I think it just mashes the front tire into the ground more giving you better grip? Idk maybe I’m just an idiot I’ll stick to practicing not teaching lol
This video may help a lot, its What FastEddie mentions in his videos all the time! This helps explain the 100 points of grip (: ruclips.net/video/Fy1AIAc76Qo/видео.html
Good video I would also ad don't panic and look at the outside of the turn or the ditch etc because that's where u will end up. Tell yourself u will make the turn and try to look around the inside of the turn. Chances are you will make the turn and keep in your own lane. Believe me I've done both scenarios and got away with it!
"Don't panic" isn't useful because it's pretty much uncontrollable...if it was under your control, no one would..and yes, I mention keep looking to where you want to to go.
@@MotoJitsu I'm 100 percent with you. What I meant by don't panic is try not to target fixate on ditch, cliff etc. I see so many RUclips videos of people running off the road and crashing because they have panicked looked at the ditch and already told themselves there going to crash when if they had looked through the turn they would have made it
Truth is no one knows what is going through the mind of a person like that...and I don't guess what it is plus I don't watch videos of people crashing.
Going back to the lane placement and not riding shoulders, I’ve found, especially on the small and un-policed island I live on haha, half the car/truck drivers are out of their lane in most corners, and Im always speeding. My round rear tire lets me corner until my pegs grind, + a bit more if I need if I lift my foot and let the peg spring up, but when you’re hard over like that, you take up a lot of lane, and if a vehicle comes around just out of their lane, I’ve had nothing I could do except lift my head/chest over out of the way of their bumper haha, so I tuck hard to the right side on lefts now haha. On a right turn I’ll trace that outside line with my knee frequently, but had my head just miss deer, and then broken down/barely pulled over vehicle. So I try to keep my head in my lane now if I can’t see around the corner haha 🤣 Probably common sense of course, but I had to almost learn the hard way haha. You guys know how hard it is to stay upright haha
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Ain't nobody talking about the colouring skills? even put relief on that cliff 😂
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Range Cards for days..
Lets just say that as a Marine, he knows his way around a crayon.
in psychology, right brain dominant people are good in perceiving and depicting depth.
Bro I been thinking this lmao. No offense to the guy he’s great but I didn’t peg him as an artist! 😅
Using the brakes properly in a corner saved my ass last week. Spotted a car speeding on the wrong side of the road in a blind corner. Managed to use the brakes to slow the bike down and turn quickly to get out of the way. I appreciate the work you put into these videos Fast Eddie💪🏿
Very welcome!!
Great work as always. Thank you
We all noobs at some point..where we used to think front braking is like front braking bicycle that it will lift u forward to a crash or rear brake on turns will automatically slide rear tire..then the more you ride all this will come naturally..like even with a little lean on turn little support from both brake is a very very huge help..and using front brake is actually your best friend in any situations
This is probably stating the obvious - but it’s amazing how quickly practice seems to pay dividends.
I was on a tight narrow blind chicane on a road near me, with my daughter on the back, I was just starting to flick the bike over when a bus came round the corner and was way over the line - I didn’t decide what to do but I got on the brakes soft all the way up-to hard and picked a new line without a thought.
It was kind of a ‘where did that come from moment’ - but clearly it was an unconscious reflex that came from conscious practice. I still can’t quite believe how much brake pressure I built up with it leaned over.
Practice folks ! It does more than your realise.
YES
This just proves that if you're good at what you're doing - you don't need high-tech graphics and expensive production! Absolutely love your one-take videos. You're really good at explaining these things.
Thanks! :)
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Ah yes, but just imagine how cool it would be if he had animation showing the dude wearing board shorts and flip flops flying off the Cliff and getting eaten by a shark!
I am a new rider and quickly realized that I could use the front brake as long as it wasn't too much pressure. Thank you so much for reinforcing that technique. It's all about being smooth with those controls and getting comfortable. I still have so much to learn.
Exactly right James...wish more riders understood what you do already. You have a bright future ahead.
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New rider too and I admit I’m skurred to try this. I’ll have to pick a nice corner with no traffic and get brave. Typically I REALLY focus on slowing enough BEFORE the lean.
@@lunamcnally2062 Luna the pressure you're looking for is basically not much more than what actually activate the brake light in the rear of the motorcycle. You can actually practice this in the garage by putting it in neutral rocking your bike back-and-forth and just slowly engage the front brake to you feel some resistance that's about what you could start utilizing in your cornering and you should be absolutely fine. It's when you mash that front brake you really asking for trouble. I am sure their are others here that could chime in and have some helpful comments. Good luck and enjoy the ride.
Thanks James! My brain gets that...I’m just concerned my fingers skipped class.
I've been riding 41 years...and still watch videos and LEARN from them. Not always what to do- but what NOT to do.
“oh crap... aaaaaahhhhh!!!” those dialogues definetly add a lot of life to these videos! 😀 👍👍👍
lol!!!
Greatly appreciated
also, quite realistic^^
Trailbraking is something I have been purposely working on. It makes corners a completely different feeling in a good way.
:) keep at it
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just practice it in every corner and get used to it, make it second nature.
A big benefit is that it compresses the front which shortens the wheelbase, making the bike easier to turn.
It's a win-win.
I certainly admire your patience in consistently bringing the same message to your audience albeit with new and insightful examples. Learn from the experts aka take courses, and shut up and practice. You can’t improve without a commitment to both. Thanks Greg. It’s a message we can’t hear too often!
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Your lessons on use of front brake are so clear and powerful. I hope many bikers can benefit from them as much as I did. Thank you.
Hope so too!
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The one dislike is from a rider who went off the cliff
probably true.
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2 dislikes now,, 2nd one followed him to doom
Up to three, birds of a feather crash together
@@adamakins9748 guys, we're up to 4 now
at least he made it then lol
I see, your production quality went up a fair bit. You got more colouring pens and time to spend on the drawings. Cool! Keep it up!
Never had anything less
A well executed corner is a great feeling! I’ve learned lots from your videos and when I get sloppy on a turn I’m embarrassed because I know better. Hitting the apex of the turn at the right speed and lean along with following through is magical when it’s perfect! Thanks Fast Eddie!
:) welcome
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Just bought the app - nice work! Love having all the info and videos in one easy place. Almost ready to get back on the road after a long New England winter. I like to watch one of your videos than go out and consciously practice what I’ve learned. Thanks for helping to keep an old experienced rider alive! Always learning is the smart way to stay safe.
Thank you!! :)
Summary : don't hesitate to brake in corners, brake until you're going on the right path, and when leaning in a curb, slowly release the brake in order not to lose the grip.
Yes, master the brakes.
Thanks! Wish I saw this comment earlier. Too much unnecessary repetition in the video. The infos are valuable though.
Thank you...i am always so afraid for being too hard on the brakes
Ride the brake, stay on the throttle.
Trail braking is your friend.
I’ve been on bikes for 20 years but primarily rode dirt. I picked up my first sportbike last year and these videos and reading a twist of the wrist II have been a huge help getting transitioned. I try to watch one of these every time before I go out and focus on a new technique. Thanks for all the tutorials!
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I had a right turn crash because, as a new rider, I believed that myth: thou shalt not use the brakes in a turn. Luckily some skin rash was all I got out of it. Great video! Very clear and easy to understand.
LEARN THOSE BRAKES!! :)
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As someone that’s made a living as an educator for 30 some years; thus gentleman is a tremendous teacher. I’ve learned so much from him.
Thank you; best advice ever. I used to go way outside to way inside to way outside. I had no room for error. I feel so much more opportunity to adjust staying a little closer to the middle.
You are so welcome!
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Thanks for this video reminder. The other day I was talking to a friend with loads more years riding than myself and stunningly he said trail braking doesn’t exist, just break before the corner. When coming too fast into a corner or in the twisties I use to trail brake, saves me from several injuries. Think is something you have to master through training. Cheers to you
Just proves years of riding means little to nothing without formal, high level training and practice
Perfect practice makes perfect
I am so happy I watch your videos. This scenario literally happened to me when I first started riding. Coming home from work during rush hour, with a bus on my tail, at an intersection. Trying to put distance between me and the bus, went into the turn too fast. You will learn to lean your bike and brake VERY quickly when your only other option is to hit the first or second car sitting at the light over the double yellow lol
Glad to hear Elisa :)
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Great advice and explanation. If you can afford a bike with "cornering ABS", this scenario is a perfect example of where it can act as a safety net preventing a lowside by riders who do not have a perfect sense of how much brake they can use
Technology won't prevent a low side...no technology will prevent crappy technique.
This is a perfect example of learning how to use the brakes...not a perfect example of thinking some technology will save you.
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@@MotoJitsu There's definitely videos proof of traction control and cornering abs preventing low sides but yes you shouldn't rely on them.
Brakes should be your best friend, not technology. If you can't do what you can on a bike with no technology vs a bike with all of it, you need to step your skill up.
@@MotoJitsu Skill is ideal, but I think you are forgetting the fact that humans often panic. Electronics help when the rider freaks out or makes an incorrect judgement. Insurance studies show that 30% less people die on motorcycles with ABS - so I don't think it's fair to call technology useless
I'm forgetting the fact that humans often panic? Is that what I'm doing? I've been a motorcycle instructor for almost 7 years now, know all about riders who panic...have more technology on their bikes wouldn't have helped any but only given a false sense of security. I never said it was useless...just not to be relied upon like a magic cheat code.
Been following your videos since your long hair days 🤣 and as a direct result, my life has been saved, not because of avoiding action but because I never have any need to do it. Thank you 👍👏👏
And before that was short hair days lol
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haha..me since the baldy days..hahahahaha..now I'm a confident rider but still keeps on learning thru practice...hehehehe
*Many thanks for your great content!* Just started using trail braking with my Road King _( after learning from you )_ and came around a corner to find an auto accident scene. My speed and control were never in doubt. Works as advertised;)
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@@MotoJitsu I have Android.
So? my app is on Andriod too. Look in the description of any video I have or go to my website.
@@MotoJitsu Got it. Bought your books and the app. Many thanks. _( BTW, I am probably the only person on earth who didn't know what googlePlay meant.)_
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First, I find your videos straight forward, easy to understand, and based in factual information. I've been around for a while, I did some road racing when I was a younger man, but still ride fast. I could never explain how, and why I did what I did to get around the track/road, it just seemed the right thing to do, instinct. Your videos, and others are now putting words, and logic to the explanations I could never seem to express myself. Thanks.
Second, I think there is another scenario when you come into a corner too hot. Get onto the brakes heavy(not too sharply), shift your weight to the inside in preparation for the turn, go deep into the corner, this will allow you to better see what is ahead, at this point you might have a better idea of your options. Best case: ease up on the brakes, late apex, swing her over, still scrubbing speed, stay in your lane, and exit the turn. Ok case: still too hot, but no oncoming traffic, same as before, but you need to use the other lane. Worst case: still too hot, and/or oncoming traffic which will not allow you to use the other lane, then try and to stop. Of course this may be too much to ask for a beginning rider, and there is not much time to think about this, if any. Your option would be the best, all things being equal, but there may be something on the pavement that may not allow for that line.
I wish your videos were around when I started. Keep it up.
Welcome. There's no option to "try and lowside" I had to lay 'er down just translates to "I have no idea what I'm doing"
stay with the brakes to get the bike to slow down, if there's a pothole or dead squirrel, try not to hit it
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@@MotoJitsu My point was, if you are in way too hot, and you all else fails, crossing over to the far shoulder and making an effort to stop, preferable on two wheels. This is assuming there is traffic coming in the opposite direction, which could lead to disastrous consequences if you stayed there. Sometimes there are only bad options, pick your poison. I am sure we would both agree to have the smarts not to get yourself into that position to begin with, but since your channel seems to cater to more than a few new riders they may have a tendency make more & bigger mistakes, as we all have and do, keeping them small is my goal at least.
My channel is for everyone...not for any type of rider regardless of experience. I will never tell people to "try and lowside on the opposite shoulder" no matter what circumstance they're in. That's not a technique to know or learn or practice therefore irrelevant and useless to mention.
Deeply appreciate your work, best teacher, big up from Poland! :)
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Awesome review Fast Eddie! As you’re taking I’m picturing in my head a ride I had two weekends ago and experienced the same scenario. Your voice came on and said, “use the breaks”. Yup, lightly I used them, trailed through and it worked. I safely came out of it. Thanks!
Awesome!! :)
thanks for your dedication and true care for safety.
you’re real pro✌️
i have learned a lot so far! 👍
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I’ve made these mistakes when first riding moving to a much more powerful bike nearly cost me my life, this lesson is essential....
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Nice illustration. Radius=mph. Explains why we are using the brakes. Lean angle staying the same - Higher speed larger turn radius. Lower speed smaller turn radius. Engine braking although reduces your speed is no where near as good as your brakes to reduce speed.
You're coming in too fast for your comfort, use the brakes for sure....that is the #1 control to go for.
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Great advice and embedding trail braking as a skill cannot be understated! Saved me twice when fatigued on the return from a long ride!
I have only had 2 or 3 bad scares in the last 18 years of riding but have to say, your advice here is excellent. One time in particular when I came hot into a tight corner, I still had a generous 60 feet of straight line left before entering the corner and I found braking hard in a short straight line just before entering scrubbed lots of speed and got me down to a completely manageable speed to complete the corner within my skill level.
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That's great and much needed advice for me as an inexperienced rider. Your instruction has saved me from wiping out a couple times already.
Glad to hear it!!
Hey thanks man! I will practice this type of coming in too hot braking at slower speeds in the parking lots. The braking technique is clearly imperative for all situations before I even get on public roads!
Exactly!
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Another excellent lesson, as usual.
Now that the bike is out of hibernation and had a fresh oil change it is time to practice like hell. Will try getting into a class soon, life is sweet!
Thanks again for what you do!
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I recommend watching Nick Ianatsche’s brake light initiative. You absolutely can squeeze the brakes too hard and fast and stand the bike up in the middle of a turn! Being lightly on the brakes before the turn is a ride changing practice. Yes, you can judiciously apply the brakes at many lean angles but as Nick Ianatsche recommends as you increase lean angle you should decrease brake pressure aka trailing off. Being happy with your speed and direction is his mantra.
I know what it says, I’ve read it and posted it to my social media. I didn’t say you can’t squeeze too hard causing problems, of course you can.
Getting back into riding just the type of reminder i needed, you put it so well
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ABS on my BMW K1200RS saved my butt several times riding in the Blueridge mountains when I underestimated a curve. I’ll never have another bike without ABS, it’s a lifesaver.
It’s good for the beginner to intermediate riders.
Really good advice. Thank you. This could save a person's life.
I hope so!
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I do this almost every corner when riding sporty.. I brake hard while leaning (and countersteering) and let of the brake progressively towards the apex.. transforms the confidence in turns for me.
Hi there thanks for all the great info.
2 questions: what's the best way to practice this safely?
What about the throttle, ease it off, keep it?
You're coming into a corner too fast, of course you won't keep the throttle on, you roll off the gas to 0% and get onto the brakes.
Go ride and play with small amounts of brake pressure mid-turn and feel the effects and do a lot of stopping very quickly in a straight line to get to know the brakes very well.
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Thanks!
you're welcome!! thank you :)
for all you new riders, this is where you need to come for advice and to learn, this guys knows what he's talking about, listen and learn.
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Na thanks to you man, these new riders need a go to guy for advice and knowledge.. Keep up the good work fella also love the scooter, I've got a x9 500 lol its a bit shit but i love it 😂
Also, as you trail brake with the front brake, it changes the geometry of the bike reducing the rake and shortening the wheel base which allows the bike to turn sharper.
yup
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I've been trying to find a good balance as a newer street rider. Trying to learn to judge my entry speed and implement trail braking when needed. Often I've found it's good to keep steady throttle throughout the corner to keep the bike's geometry planted.
That may work for a certain pace
Thank you. Been a subscriber for a while . Riding the Tail of the Dragon today in TN. This was a good reminder .. I'm a huge proponent of trail braking. Thanks for your help.!
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Using delayed apex on a blind turn along with using the front brake to load up the forms and the contact patch of the tire has saved my butt so many times!
Master those brakes :)
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@@Snoupity It is delaying when you start to cut into the turn until you can see your exit from the curve.
Yo what up bro by me doing that exact braking you're describing actually saved my life just the other day so thank u for making this video bcuz I now knw without a doubt I did the right thing correcting my wrong doing approaching too fast into a turn and to not buy into the myth of not braking at all in a turn so thanks bro and keep doing what u do...bcuz most if not all of us appreciate it trust me!
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Thanks Fast Eddie ! You sure explain things well. You are an asset to the riding community.
I appreciate that!
Your welcome. I asked a question on a different vid of yours. Can you refresh my memory on which vid talked about your "Turn in Late " for curves philosophy ? It was very helpful, but I need to re watch getting ready for riding season here in Virginia. Thanks again Fast Edddie.
Videos on line selection...but it doesn't really matter because on the street...I start somewhere on the outside-ish and only really go towards the middle of the lane, the back to the outside...so however early or late I turn it, doesn't really matter since I'm only going to the middle anyway.
Great advice Eddie. And I will re watch the line selection videos again. Ride safe my friend.
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From what I learned , in streets always load the front brakes ( very )slightly in a corner, until you see the exit. This will shift weight to front and reduce the trail of the bike , and more contact patch on front tyre. And even if we see an unexpected obstacles , we have already loaded front brakes , we can grab it even further to slow down without surprising the tyre.
Whatever works for you depending on the pace you're going, traction levels, etc.
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My instinct was from Champ School training where they drill in "100 points of traction" - so lean takes some away, brakes take some away, and zero throttle means you can do a lot of the first two. Just progressively.
Brake to remove your kinetic energy, and lean to direct what's left. Everything always smoothly. Smoothness comes with practice.
Now just go practice this yourself :)
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Good description of what the hands feet and body should be doing. Kind of disappointed there wasn't more focus on what the head and eyeballs should be doing.
This situation is 9 times out of 10 going to be in an unfamiliar corner. Coming in to any corner too hot is stressful. Training or instinct will determine if the rider turns through safely or target fixates on a spot on the guardrail or a passing car.
It is absolutely *critical* that head and those eyeballs are physically forced to be facing where they need to be to get the rest of the package where it needs to go.
Keep up the good work, love your stuff 🤙
I mention look through the turn, but if you don't get the bike to slow down, going to be a bad day.
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This exact scenario happened to me as a
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Reading the corner, i.e. ‘the limit of observation’ should always prevent going in too fast.
Many reasons why this happens...even if riders know the corner very well it still does.
Very proven..stay with the brakes till its slowed down enough to be pointed in the right direction and slowly releasing it simultaneously pickin up the throttle to remove lean..thanks sir Greg..
Yes!
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Also, 1) force yourself to look through the corner where you WANT to go - do not target fixate on where you DON'T want to go, and 2) your tires likely have significantly more grip than you think.
of course, but if you don't slow the bike down, it's going to be bad...I mention vision.
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Moto J you have help me so much in my new motorcycle ride journey. Keep the vids coming brah!🏍
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10/4. Downloaded a while ago. 😎
Keep on bike’n🤟
Thank you!
From my understanding, the concept explained here is trail braking in which you begin braking before the corner (and before the bike is leaned over). What should you do if you find yourself in a situation where you are in a considerable lean mid corner (without activating the brakes) and there is a hazard ahead?
Great video as always :)
Trail braking is getting onto the brakes before the corner with no lean angle...then as you start to lean, you slowly release brake pressure in relation to how much you lean.
The best thing to do is not hit the hazard...so go around it..if you have to go over it, get the bike upright as much as possible before hitting it...so adding body position will help and slowing down as much as you can before hitting it too.
I ran into a situation much like that except it was a vertical rock wall,learned to drive that motorcycle real good real fast.
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On a side note, with skill and breaking correctly- I had to use some emergency breaking today for the first time. Light changed yellow- cars were going, the one in front of me decided not to go and just hit the breaks. I had about a car length and a half with damp roads from rain early in the AM. Didn’t panic, just applied progressive to firm breaking pressure and just came to a stop. Didn’t even think about it, just did it. It’s pretty crazy how skills are just in your head bouncing around till you need them.
practice = muscle memory.
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I’m going to use this in my Motogp20.
I always miss those sharp turns. Now I know the technique. I’m inclined to follow that pink line, seems like a default thing to do. Thanks for pointing the right method.
what's motogo20?
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thanks will visit that link you shared. motogp20, just a ps4 game with a tiny bit of realism. I love motorbikes unfortunately that’s the only closest thing I can possess right now 😂
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I find these videos about trail braking so perplexing. I spent my youth offroad so I just assumed that everyone used brakes in the corner like this. You quickly learn just how much you can/cannot brake in corners, but it's a skill you must use. To think there are so many street riders that won't even consider braking in corners baffles my mind
Most people have no idea how much they can do because they're never taught it at a high level place like Yamaha Champions Riding School taught by high level current professional racers.
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When I started riding I had a couple of episodes where I came too fast in the corner and as a beginner I panicked and went over the line. I didn’t crash just went super wide because of the speed. Luckily for me there never was upcoming traffic. Since then I learned to not go too fast especially on a road that I’m not completely familiar with.
Once, on my 1979 GS750, i took a corner way too fast. I could not lean any further as the exhaust was scraping on the street and threatening to pivot the rear wheel of the tarmac. I pulled the bike up straight and went full on the brakes. And into the dry ditch next to the road...
Sheesh
another great condensed teaching clip ! thank you !!
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"Mr Pink is all like AAAAAAHHHHH" 😅😂
Love these drawings and explanations you do, very thought provoking. Cheers 👍
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Another great video! I watch you and Jerry @ ride like a pro. He has even made positive references to your videos.....thanks much and keep up the good work, btw, your charts and drawings are the best !
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Very educational video. But what do you do with the throttle while in the curve? Is it rolled off? Or do you keep a bit of "maintenance" throttle during the turn?
Going into a turn, you generally roll off the gas and maybe use the brakes to slow yourself down to your comfort.
This video isn't about anything you're asking...I have other videos about that.
@@MotoJitsu Thank you, I'll look for them!
One thing that might help i would mention is don’t down shift in the turn to use engine braking. It sounds good on the surface but it can cause a lot of bad things form upsetting the geometry to locking up the rear wheel. Just brake.
That's why I didn't talk about downshifting
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One good thing my trainer told to get how hard you can apply front breaks and be really safe while cornering. With no ignition just standing near you bike try to push the bike forward and while pushing gently apply the front break. At some point bike will stop due to breaks pressure. So till that point you can apply the front break while cornering with no risk.
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. I remember watching a video that explained that a tire only has so much traction and combining leaning with braking can exceed the amount of available traction. I don't have a sense yet of what the limits are for the tires, but I have it in my mind that I shouldn't lean hard and brake hard at the same time.
Who said to do that?
@@MotoJitsu The idea is explained in a youtube video called 100 POINTS OF GRIP with CHAMPSCHOOL's Nick Ienatsch. The concept is that a tire starts with 100 points of grip. Lean angle and brake pressure make up the points. If the lean angle is zero, the break pressure can be 100%. If the lean angle is 50%, break pressure can be 50%. It might be a simplistic way to look at it, but it has stuck with me.
Yeah I know what the video is, who said to "lean hard and brake hard at the same time?"
@@MotoJitsu he said 'shouldn't' not 'should'
I know...I never said to do that either.
Should have watched this when it came out. Could have saved me from my lowside last week.
lesson learned :)
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Dude I love your channel
Always find myself thinking "this could save my life" and then clicking on the video
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I was existing a freeway and the exit turned into a tight curve. I was a little too fast. Thanks for the countersteering move I could clear the curve. If I didn't countersteered I would have crashed
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It's not necessarily should be "trail braking", you can get on the brakes mid turn, also most likely you need to lean more.
So if you're going wide - slightly apply brakes, look as far into the turn as you can, and lean more(push that handlebar, it won't push itself)
That may be true for some circumstances.
Thanks for such a great explanation. I have one question on a different topic. Might sound silly, but haven't been able to figure out myself.
While taking a turn/corner we should look into the turn. What should we do when riding at night, as there's no light around the corner.
Look as far as you can see.
Subbed. Very clear description. Good stuff
Awesome, thank you!
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Good stuff. Too much breaking. Been there done that. I thought I would low side I was so far over on my super hawk. I had two months on a sport bike with no training. I came into a 120 degree corner chasing a skilled rider. I accepted that I was going to wreck into the oncoming old growth maple tree. I let off the brake completely to give all available traction. I leaned the bike to grind the pegs.
15 minutes later we stopped for gas. I was still shaking. The methods taught here are ok but would have ended up with me dead or broke if I followed them. The best teacher is experience. I learned young on dirt. This video is good info. you will not be able to react to a surprise in any way other than your subconscious reaction. The only way to change that is with training.
Best teachers are high level teachers like those at Yamaha Champions Riding School and American Supercamp because the instructors are the best....current professional racers.
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wife and were two up on our Harley U.C. going to Yellowstone. from wa.st. going north on 89 toward Jackson. I came around sweeping corner about 60, heres this mule deer standing its head just over the centerline. I think I will go into the other lane scoot past. the deer decides to start moving forward. I had to lean hard right and just squeaked around the back, stood the bike up, here's deer two standing there, I leaned the bike over hard left and squeeze past in front of it. this all happened in milliseconds, no braking, with no throttle changes. I did end up with a case of shingles that my doctor said was the worst case she had seen in her 25 year career.
dang!
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So true. Remember your rear brakes...& don’t “jump” on the front breaks.
Don't jump on any brake...but the front brake should be your go-to brake since it's the most powerful...if you that's not your first instinct, need to practice more and learn how to use it better.
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@@MotoJitsu That's a good reminder. I tend to rely too heavily on 'engine breaking' but this isn't the best tactic if you have approached a corner to fast.
it's never a good tactic. Brakes are.
Given a certain radius of a corner and friction of your tire, there is a maximum speed that your bike can physically travel through that curve. If you're going too fast into the corner or increase speed during, your bike will understeer or worse break traction/wipe-out. That's why these racers enter fast and modulate speed/hold brakes during the corner like Greg says to reach or maintain that maximum possible speed. Bc theyre racing lol
Learn how to use the brakes, even mid-turn is the point of this video.
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I practice front brake stopping all the time high speed also in turns. I feel it’s really effective in downhill turns.I worked on top of mountain for years . I remember early on getting to hot going downhill.I feel more accurate with pressure using my hand . Really had and have to practice back braking. Easy to overdo to me even a different pair of boots you better get the feel down. Just my opinion
Yes, learning how to get your bike to slow very quickly, even mid-turn is the point of this video.
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While on the brakes use progressive pressure as needed.
Use whatever you need to not go into the other lane.
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Thank you for that most useful guidance!
Glad it was helpful!
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when coming in hot, i will often brake HEAVY early, turning in late while letting up on the brake then release the brake as early as possible. of course this would be an unplanned exercise. i think most people panic and hammer the front brake 1/2 way through the turn washing out the front wheel, or low siding. staying on the brakes in a panic turn seems very dangerous, the risk of locking up the front or rear is high. the more speed you can scrub before the turn gives you less energy to deal with in the turn. I don't doubt you are right but skill is the big variable. practice with those brakes and knowing the limits of your bike, tires and skill is criticle.
Not knowing how to use the brakes mid-turn is what causes all the problems.
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Important to know your road conditions, to many riders think just because one road is dry and clean the next bend will be the same.
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I remember when I started riding I was going to meet my friend, but instead of taking a turn at intersection I thought I needed to do it earlier ( thanks google maps ). I was going ~40mph and the turn was 90* to a parking lot surrounded by cones that are mounted to asphalt. Fortunately after watching tons of your s dandanfireman’s videos, it sank in my head that you shouldn’t panic. I did my best to brake as much as possible and my head was pointed in the right direction. Fortunately, I was able to make it and not crash.
Nice. I don't think I've said "you shouldn't panic" it's an automatic response…you don't have a choice. What I focus on is the techniques of what to do. MotoJitsu.com for my new app, books, merchandise, affiliate links, etc. Thanks for watching & check out my other videos, over 300 to go through :)
Such skill is a must in case of the assumption does not meet reality. Thanks for the video, very useful 👍🏼
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Some times the problem comes from not enough signage indicating how bad these corners can actually be. Many a time I've come across signs indicating that a real nasty bend is coming up, so you slow down and then you wonder where this bend actually is.
Yup that’s why I don’t rely much on them
Great vid! You masterfully nailed every sound I’ve ever made while on motorcycle 😂
hahahahha
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"aaaaaaaahhhhhh going flying off the cliff!!!!" Hilarious!
( cruiser ) I tend to turn too early and then have to correct mid turn. I used to do this more when I was starting out. But I still do it sometimes. I also now brake into the corner ( front brake ) and drag it a bit toward the apex. Now granted I'm not going fast at all.
:) nothing to do with speed...more about being in control and modulating your radius with brakes and throttle, not so much lean angle.
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Why didn't you have this a month ago!!! That's exactly what happen to me. but it was a double apex..and didn't make the 2nd one. Great info, thanks!
I have lots of videos about brakes, line selection already :)
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When you say trail braking, what percentage of breaking are we talking about? Thanks for your video!
I’m not a pro rider but in my experience you are just dragging the front or rear brakes just ever so slightly. Maybe Greg can expand in a reply he always replies
Also I’m pretty sure it’s mostly front brake. It just feels better to me but I can’t explain why. Maybe because you’re loading the front forks as you use front brake. I can’t explain exactly why but I think it just mashes the front tire into the ground more giving you better grip? Idk maybe I’m just an idiot I’ll stick to practicing not teaching lol
He did a video on trail braking and there is the famous Yamaha video on how you have a 100 points to spend between lean angle and brakes
This video may help a lot, its What FastEddie mentions in his videos all the time! This helps explain the 100 points of grip (: ruclips.net/video/Fy1AIAc76Qo/видео.html
@@AlphaMorning Yeah, that does not tell me anything if i do not low side to know what the 100 points are.
Good video I would also ad don't panic and look at the outside of the turn or the ditch etc because that's where u will end up. Tell yourself u will make the turn and try to look around the inside of the turn. Chances are you will make the turn and keep in your own lane. Believe me I've done both scenarios and got away with it!
"Don't panic" isn't useful because it's pretty much uncontrollable...if it was under your control, no one would..and yes, I mention keep looking to where you want to to go.
@@MotoJitsu I'm 100 percent with you. What I meant by don't panic is try not to target fixate on ditch, cliff etc. I see so many RUclips videos of people running off the road and crashing because they have panicked looked at the ditch and already told themselves there going to crash when if they had looked through the turn they would have made it
Truth is no one knows what is going through the mind of a person like that...and I don't guess what it is plus I don't watch videos of people crashing.
Thanks for the video. This is important knowledge for anyone who rides.
Love your videos! Any way you might be able to demo this live in a twisty with a multiple camera set up showing your speed, brake and lean?
thanks. No there is no way for me to do that.
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Going back to the lane placement and not riding shoulders, I’ve found, especially on the small and un-policed island I live on haha, half the car/truck drivers are out of their lane in most corners, and Im always speeding. My round rear tire lets me corner until my pegs grind, + a bit more if I need if I lift my foot and let the peg spring up, but when you’re hard over like that, you take up a lot of lane, and if a vehicle comes around just out of their lane, I’ve had nothing I could do except lift my head/chest over out of the way of their bumper haha, so I tuck hard to the right side on lefts now haha. On a right turn I’ll trace that outside line with my knee frequently, but had my head just miss deer, and then broken down/barely pulled over vehicle. So I try to keep my head in my lane now if I can’t see around the corner haha 🤣
Probably common sense of course, but I had to almost learn the hard way haha. You guys know how hard it is to stay upright haha
bro i really love your videos you deserve more subs!!