The funny thing is that I've just bought a Barista Pro, and got myself a Normcore tamper too. I'll dial it in today, right when my coffee is delivered. Thanks again for the great content and tips!
Mate, thanks for letting me know about the Burr Grinder settings. I was so confused as to why my bottomless handle was spurting everywhere, when I had the grind set to the lowest. This fixed it.
This was my first machine and loved it. Highly recommend it. I eventually got a Specialita grinder and moved to the Dual Boiler. Ended up giving my pro to my brother. Still enjoy using it when im over his house and want caffeine.
I use the razor to make sure the volume in the basket is right every time i open a new bag, then I weigh it and commit that to memory and put the razor back up till I open a new bag. I just weigh my beans after that (pre-ground, as I single dose with a Niche Zero) and it's pretty simple. I have had variances of nearly a gram for the same ground volume in the basket between different beans PANTHER 1985 espresso is consistently 18.5g in my 54mm stock Bambino Plus over more than a dozen bags. This stuff is good, neutral, traditional style flavor learning toward medium or at least less dark.
I find that this machine works best when the dose is no more than 2mm below the dose trimming tool. But also, thanks for letting us know it’s only tight in the beginning :)
i watched the video for 3 times by now. thanks for your content, love to see more of those. hopefully i will soon get my first good cappuccino out of my barista pro.
Changung the burr to 2 has meant changing the outside grind, eventually to 11, and has been a great improvement, so thanks for this. *Warning* Be careful with your scales if weiging the extraction, as mine got water in it and fried on my next use 😕
Nice video Tom. Watching brought me memories of my first time using the BBE about 4 years back. This new grinder seems like a great improvement. I was never a fan of the BBE grinder so bought a Niche Z and the experience was far superior. Remember that with time using the grinder and seasoned burrs the dialing will get better. Cheers!
Woow! Veeeery veeery nice late art at the last minutes of the video! Very good machine, i like the way this machine looks and function! I will bear in mind for the future for one of these!😅 Have a nice day Tom!☕️
Even though I have a Breville Bambino Plus, l still find all of your commissioning videos very helpful and informative. Your methods translate perfectly to most any combination of grinders and machines. Like you say “you just need to practice” Once again, thanks!
Good review but would be good to get a comparison chat to say, the Silvia, Gaggia or Apex to understand whats better. Also would be nice to know about the quality of the grinder compared to a standalone one.
Hi Tom, if you had to choose between the best espresso you can make with a Barista Pro versus the best espresso from the Delonghi Dinamica Plus which one would you recommend? same question with Cappuccino. Thanks for the help *Background my wife likes the simplicity of the automated machines, but I would like whatever makes a good barista style espresso and cappuccino.😄
Well, you have a lot more control over the Barista Pro, and it can make better espresso and silkier milk foam. But it requires developing the skill, which is why a lot of people go for the superautomatics. I did a quick and dirty comparison here: ruclips.net/video/wL3dPH2HrUw/видео.html
Tried the single basket just once: Ground, tamped, levelled; then when I tipped it sideways over the bin to get rid of the razored-off excess the whole damned puck slid out. Doubles ever since.
Do you recommend the sage barista pro or sage bambino with eureka mignon silenzio? I think the bambino is very similar to the barista pro but the integrated grinder is not as good as mignon. The price is pretty similar.
SOOOOO much better!!!! than the erectile dysfunction model dude Sage use in their 'instructional videos' that spends more time regurgitating spiritual garbage at me instead of doing his job actually instructing on how to's with the Sage Barista Pro. Tom, you are mostly well-spoken, relevant to subject matter, humourous at the rightest moments and your Instruction Video a clear mile more fruitful than that of Sage. Thank you Tom and you earned a fan for life with me :)
i left my iner bur the way it was. and so far i grind at number 10. if it gets a little older 9. have a coffee at 12 too. have not yet had to go lower.
Its only tight in the beginning!! very cheeky but relived. I thought i was having to be a tad bit aggressive to lock in the basket on my first go round.
Need help to fix the sour espresso on this machine 😢 tried to play with the dose, extraction time, all looks good. Increased the temperature a little, but same sour taste.. cappuccino is good although
I am very confused about your 11 seconds grind time. I setup the machine exactly as you did with the bur setting at 3 and the machine setting at 6. To get to 16 grams I need to set the grind time to 24 seconds 😮
Great video as always, Tom! Just curious if you ever use the razor tool that comes with the Breville machines? Also, how do you feel about puck screens?
No, I don't see the utility of the Razor. Puck screens? I only use them on machines that have terrible shower screens, but the screens on the Sage's are a-ok. Cheers!
Hi, I bought a delongi Electra explorer, and I am configuring it, can you explain me how to ground al 7 number… for more fine cafe??? Before I had the barista touch impress but was very difficult for me, and I decided to return it and change for the delongui…. Greetings from Spain! I like very much your channel.
Brilliant! I just bought a Barista Pro to use it in my bookshop. I couldn't expect a better introduction on how to use this Espresso machine. The only thing I'll be tempt to change is the water filtre which has plastic inside. Would you have any recommandation or advice for water filtre without plastic that suits to Barista Pro ? Thanks for all your work on this channel.
I've seen that you tried a lot of barista Express and I wanted to know if you ever tried to grind some coffee with a barista Express grinder and use that same coffee to do some pour over. Do you think that the grinder is grinding course enough ? Thanks for your answer
It looks like the models sold in the US don't come with the updated Baratza 6 point grinder. I can't seem to find that grinder separately either from Breville or Amazon. 🙄
In Australia at least, there are still shops that have stock of the old 5 point burrs. I rang Breville Australia and they said all new pros now come with the Baratza six flute burrs. I had a Breville barista pro on order from a shop and picked it up yesterday and it did in fact have the Baratza burrs. It's really easy to check in the shop by removing the lid and undoing the handle in the middle of the bowl 90 deg and you can easy see the conical burr in the hole and see if it's 5 or 6. I checked several machines on the stand in one shop and half had 5 and half had 6, so some shops will still have old stock. Note, I think only the pro model and above now have the six but I may be wrong on that.
I have the same machine and tried matching the settings Tom was using but the grinding was quite a bit slower on mine. I grinded at a burr setting of 3 and fineness setting (or whatever that dial is called) of 6 and I only got 6 grams in 10 seconds of grinding. So curious why the difference? I also cleaned everything out before hand to clear out old grindings. One problem I have had often is when I try to go finer on the grind, the espresso barely drips out and doesn't extract at a normal rate, ends up wasting the grinds. Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong?
Tom, Thanks for all your great content and tips. Can you recommend a super fully automatic machine that makes the best and warmest (hottest) coffee and espresso?
Well, your milage may vary. For me, this is a good setting. I'd just suggest to experiment with different grind sizes and doses - that's part of the fun.
Will the temperature of the drinks be hot enough since this machine turns off so quickly compared to other Breville machines? That is the only concern I have about this machine. The auto shut-off should be after half an hour, like the Infuser and Express. I get that it has new technology to get up to temperature a lot quicker, but it seems like the drinks cool down pretty fast. Or did you not just preheat the other cup?
In my experience, this and all other Brevilles turn off after about 20 minutes, even the Dual Boiler. But it doesn't really matter with this one, since it doesn't warm up the brew group anyway. All the machines with the ThermoJet technology have the disadvantage, that they do not warm the brew group, and therefore the portafilter: Bambino Plus, Barista Pro, Touch, Touch Impress.
t could also be that your grinder is not ideal for espresso. Check out this short blog post: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/ Or this one, with some good cheap grinders: tomscoffeecorner.com/best-espresso-machine-and-grinder-setups-under-500/ These videos may also help: How to Get Crema: ruclips.net/video/00NSG9459a8/видео.html Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ruclips.net/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/видео.html How to estimate bean roast age for Lavazza: ruclips.net/user/liveQmVRpBGOokE How to extract the perfect espresso: ruclips.net/video/piO6c695Op8/видео.html ***I’d recommend looking on google maps for local coffee roasters. That's the best way to ensure freshly roasted beans. Cheers, Tom
tom bro these machines are expensive do u profit from these kind vids or does the companies send it to you? i am asking because upload ALOT on espresso machines.
Yeah there are different variants... There is the Barista Express, the Barista Pro (which is in this video), the Barista Express Impress, the Barista Touch and the Barista Touch Impress. Only the Pro model seems to come with the dosing funnel. Only the Pro and Touch models seem to come with a Baratza grinder. Not 100% sure on everything but that is my observation from reviews of this confusing amount of versions.
@@eyup26 Yeah that's weird... I have had the same issue with my bambino plus that was bought a few years ago, where they only came with pressurized baskets so I think there is some weird revision-thing going on... Ugh, those guys really have to get that stuff together or at least designate correctly. It is kind of a lootbox rn... I mean you can buy it but it is still a pretty sour taste there
Why will you throw it at 12:26 ☹️ that coffee bean went through a long global supply chain! If it was a little coarse just use it in drip or Aeropress or something. #sustainableways
I've been using this machine for almost 3 weeks(Breville rather than "Sage"- black colour btw) and it says that I need to flush, so many attempts and changes..🥲 Now the issue is that my cleaning rubber basket has a hole in it, which what I've seen across the internet is not good at all- because it won't backflush properly and all of water would come out of the portafilter. I don't want to waste a cleaning tablet... should I wait until a rubber basket without a hole arrive or do it with the one that came with the machine? Use it every day;) (Heard that this basket belongs to "newer models" idk)
Good question. They seem to deliver these rubber discs with and without the hole, depending on the vintage. I guess it should work with the hole too, but probably not as well. I suppose it might have the advantage however of cleaning the basket and portafilter while it's at it. Cheers!
Why was there such a big difference in steam time between the first and second cup, from 51 seconds to just 30 seconds,less milk? I will probably "downgrade" from a nice e61 machine to this one, I'm tired of long warm-up times.
It gets faster at getting up to steam temperature, and also steaming, once you have already steamed once or twice. So I guess that the thermo block retains some heat. I agree with you on the E 61 by the way. I don’t have patience for those to warm up either.
Hope this commissioning video helped you guys!
Check prices here: geni.us/BrevilleEspressoMach (Breville/Sage affiliate link)
Do you have an episode discussing what your favorite coffee accessories are?
@@gbriank1 Hi there! I discussed my favorite Breville accessories in my most recent Bambino Plus review. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thanks Tom! How are things in Bavaria?
The funny thing is that I've just bought a Barista Pro, and got myself a Normcore tamper too. I'll dial it in today, right when my coffee is delivered.
Thanks again for the great content and tips!
Mate, thanks for letting me know about the Burr Grinder settings. I was so confused as to why my bottomless handle was spurting everywhere, when I had the grind set to the lowest. This fixed it.
@@i_Amazin_ very nice, glad to help!
This was my first machine and loved it. Highly recommend it. I eventually got a Specialita grinder and moved to the Dual Boiler. Ended up giving my pro to my brother. Still enjoy using it when im over his house and want caffeine.
I use the razor to make sure the volume in the basket is right every time i open a new bag, then I weigh it and commit that to memory and put the razor back up till I open a new bag. I just weigh my beans after that (pre-ground, as I single dose with a Niche Zero) and it's pretty simple. I have had variances of nearly a gram for the same ground volume in the basket between different beans
PANTHER 1985 espresso is consistently 18.5g in my 54mm stock Bambino Plus over more than a dozen bags. This stuff is good, neutral, traditional style flavor learning toward medium or at least less dark.
I think 16g is too low for the standard double shot basket, I put 18.5 grams and my grind setting inner 3 outer 15
I don't know, more than 16 grams billows out with my med-dark roast. Are you using a lighter roast?
Hello. I have had this coffee machine for three months and I am very satisfied.
I find that this machine works best when the dose is no more than 2mm below the dose trimming tool. But also, thanks for letting us know it’s only tight in the beginning :)
It's always important to mention, as some people are put off by it being too tight, lol.
Very helpful video, looking forward to getting started with mine any day now :)
i watched the video for 3 times by now. thanks for your content, love to see more of those. hopefully i will soon get my first good cappuccino out of my barista pro.
@@Manu-ut9jo Thanks for your support!
Love this machine! Very quiet overall, solid quality. :)
Changung the burr to 2 has meant changing the outside grind, eventually to 11, and has been a great improvement, so thanks for this.
*Warning*
Be careful with your scales if weiging the extraction, as mine got water in it and fried on my next use 😕
Nice video Tom. Watching brought me memories of my first time using the BBE about 4 years back. This new grinder seems like a great improvement. I was never a fan of the BBE grinder so bought a Niche Z and the experience was far superior. Remember that with time using the grinder and seasoned burrs the dialing will get better. Cheers!
Excellent review. Good job. Thank you.
The first cappuccino looked very nice!!!
Woow! Veeeery veeery nice late art at the last minutes of the video! Very good machine, i like the way this machine looks and function! I will bear in mind for the future for one of these!😅
Have a nice day Tom!☕️
Excellent video, I am considering buying this machine so seeing the setup process is very valuable.
Your videos just making want to go and making the coffee
Amazing review thanks
Bought this in black s/steel in November best one out there for home.
Even though I have a Breville Bambino Plus, l still find all of your commissioning videos very helpful and informative. Your methods translate perfectly to most any combination of grinders and machines. Like you say “you just need to practice” Once again, thanks!
Thanks so much for the feedback!
I just bought this! Its my first machine, thanks for your help! Would love a review of this machine compared to others (ie the impress or express)
08:34 I Can confirm it's just tight at the beginning
Any tips on always sour shots? I jave my inner burr to 3 and grind to 4 and it is pucker sour. I wonder if it is my beans as this point.
Good review but would be good to get a comparison chat to say, the Silvia, Gaggia or Apex to understand whats better. Also would be nice to know about the quality of the grinder compared to a standalone one.
Great video. Thank you
Hi is this Sage Barista Pro Bean to Cup Coffee Machine in Black Stainless Steel, SES878BST ?
Thanks For showing how 😊
I preferred the delonghi le specialista
Hi Tom, if you had to choose between the best espresso you can make with a Barista Pro versus the best espresso from the Delonghi Dinamica Plus which one would you recommend? same question with Cappuccino. Thanks for the help
*Background my wife likes the simplicity of the automated machines, but I would like whatever makes a good barista style espresso and cappuccino.😄
Well, you have a lot more control over the Barista Pro, and it can make better espresso and silkier milk foam. But it requires developing the skill, which is why a lot of people go for the superautomatics. I did a quick and dirty comparison here: ruclips.net/video/wL3dPH2HrUw/видео.html
Tried the single basket just once: Ground, tamped, levelled; then when I tipped it sideways over the bin to get rid of the razored-off excess the whole damned puck slid out. Doubles ever since.
Lol, that's happened to me before, too. But really, the single is just not enough for me. Cheers!
Do you recommend the sage barista pro or sage bambino with eureka mignon silenzio? I think the bambino is very similar to the barista pro but the integrated grinder is not as good as mignon. The price is pretty similar.
SOOOOO much better!!!! than the erectile dysfunction model dude Sage use in their 'instructional videos' that spends more time regurgitating spiritual garbage at me instead of doing his job actually instructing on how to's with the Sage Barista Pro. Tom, you are mostly well-spoken, relevant to subject matter, humourous at the rightest moments and your Instruction Video a clear mile more fruitful than that of Sage. Thank you Tom and you earned a fan for life with me :)
Thanks for your encouragement!
i left my iner bur the way it was. and so far i grind at number 10. if it gets a little older 9. have a coffee at 12 too. have not yet had to go lower.
What dose size are you using, and what bean roast?
Looks like third shift in the Midwest. Pairs up pretty well with your german schedule l o l
Its only tight in the beginning!! very cheeky but relived. I thought i was having to be a tad bit aggressive to lock in the basket on my first go round.
😉
#BaristaPro excelent video, thank you Tom
Need help to fix the sour espresso on this machine 😢 tried to play with the dose, extraction time, all looks good. Increased the temperature a little, but same sour taste.. cappuccino is good although
After this demo, it is no wonder why people go with the super automatics!
It's more work with a semi-automatic, but I enjoy the process.
I am very confused about your 11 seconds grind time. I setup the machine exactly as you did with the bur setting at 3 and the machine setting at 6. To get to 16 grams I need to set the grind time to 24 seconds 😮
Well, there might be manufacturing tolerances, but I am guessing our beans are also quite different. You will need to adjust accordingly. Cheers!
thanks nice teatch
Great video as always, Tom! Just curious if you ever use the razor tool that comes with the Breville machines? Also, how do you feel about puck screens?
No, I don't see the utility of the Razor. Puck screens? I only use them on machines that have terrible shower screens, but the screens on the Sage's are a-ok. Cheers!
Hi, I bought a delongi Electra explorer, and I am configuring it, can you explain me how to ground al 7 number… for more fine cafe??? Before I had the barista touch impress but was very difficult for me, and I decided to return it and change for the delongui…. Greetings from Spain! I like very much your channel.
Brilliant! I just bought a Barista Pro to use it in my bookshop. I couldn't expect a better introduction on how to use this Espresso machine.
The only thing I'll be tempt to change is the water filtre which has plastic inside. Would you have any recommandation or advice for water filtre without plastic that suits to Barista Pro ?
Thanks for all your work on this channel.
I only know of water filters with plastic casings. Even my Brita and Zero Water use plastic casings...
I'm sorry. I was thinking at the portafilter and I wrote water... I have no word to excuse me.😅
Are you using the single wall or double wall filter basket? Great video!
Single wall, unpressurized. Cheers!
Does any one know what Tom's final setting were? I'm giving my friend one and would like to get it all dialed in.
Thanks for the great review. I’m planning to get either this one or Barista Touch. Any advice on that? I’m a beginner but would love to slowly learn.
Hi! I think they're both very similar, but the Touch has the cooler display. Should be very similar otherwise.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Got it, thanks
I've seen that you tried a lot of barista Express and I wanted to know if you ever tried to grind some coffee with a barista Express grinder and use that same coffee to do some pour over. Do you think that the grinder is grinding course enough ? Thanks for your answer
It looks like the models sold in the US don't come with the updated Baratza 6 point grinder. I can't seem to find that grinder separately either from Breville or Amazon. 🙄
In Australia at least, there are still shops that have stock of the old 5 point burrs. I rang Breville Australia and they said all new pros now come with the Baratza six flute burrs. I had a Breville barista pro on order from a shop and picked it up yesterday and it did in fact have the Baratza burrs. It's really easy to check in the shop by removing the lid and undoing the handle in the middle of the bowl 90 deg and you can easy see the conical burr in the hole and see if it's 5 or 6. I checked several machines on the stand in one shop and half had 5 and half had 6, so some shops will still have old stock. Note, I think only the pro model and above now have the six but I may be wrong on that.
I have the same machine and tried matching the settings Tom was using but the grinding was quite a bit slower on mine. I grinded at a burr setting of 3 and fineness setting (or whatever that dial is called) of 6 and I only got 6 grams in 10 seconds of grinding. So curious why the difference? I also cleaned everything out before hand to clear out old grindings. One problem I have had often is when I try to go finer on the grind, the espresso barely drips out and doesn't extract at a normal rate, ends up wasting the grinds. Any thoughts on what I am doing wrong?
Tom, Thanks for all your great content and tips.
Can you recommend a super fully automatic machine that makes the best and warmest (hottest) coffee and espresso?
So far, I like the Dinamica Plus the best. I made a review of it.
@@TomsCoffeeCorner Thank you, Tom. The Dinamica does not have a grinder and is not fully super automatic. What is your next best?
I was looking at Breville. I think you referred to De'Longhi, am I right?
temperature test?
Hi, I have a question, why use the Sage brand instead of Breville directly?
It's Breville in AU, CA and USA. It's Sage in Europe. Same company though.
I can't grind under the 13(inner 3), otherwise the coffee is overextracted. I use robust grains with dark toasting. Am I wrong ?
Well, your milage may vary. For me, this is a good setting. I'd just suggest to experiment with different grind sizes and doses - that's part of the fun.
#BaristaPro Thank you for this review ❤
Will the temperature of the drinks be hot enough since this machine turns off so quickly compared to other Breville machines? That is the only concern I have about this machine. The auto shut-off should be after half an hour, like the Infuser and Express. I get that it has new technology to get up to temperature a lot quicker, but it seems like the drinks cool down pretty fast. Or did you not just preheat the other cup?
In my experience, this and all other Brevilles turn off after about 20 minutes, even the Dual Boiler. But it doesn't really matter with this one, since it doesn't warm up the brew group anyway. All the machines with the ThermoJet technology have the disadvantage, that they do not warm the brew group, and therefore the portafilter: Bambino Plus, Barista Pro, Touch, Touch Impress.
I have no clue what to do. I grind finer and finer and the coffee flows like crazy (14-15) seconds. I tamp as hard as I can😢. Any help appreciated.
t could also be that your grinder is not ideal for espresso.
Check out this short blog post: tomscoffeecorner.com/what-are-the-best-beans-for-espresso/
Or this one, with some good cheap grinders: tomscoffeecorner.com/best-espresso-machine-and-grinder-setups-under-500/
These videos may also help:
How to Get Crema: ruclips.net/video/00NSG9459a8/видео.html
Why Supermarket Coffee Beans are RUINING your Espresso! ruclips.net/video/5BgMKqu8fJI/видео.html
How to estimate bean roast age for Lavazza: ruclips.net/user/liveQmVRpBGOokE
How to extract the perfect espresso: ruclips.net/video/piO6c695Op8/видео.html
***I’d recommend looking on google maps for local coffee roasters. That's the best way to ensure freshly roasted beans.
Cheers,
Tom
What scale was he using?
Timemore Basic
tom bro these machines are expensive do u profit from these kind vids or does the companies send it to you? i am asking because upload ALOT on espresso machines.
Well, I buy most of them, but sometimes I get loaners, like this one.
mine doesn't say baratza on the grinder and didn't get the dosing funnel.
Yeah there are different variants...
There is the Barista Express, the Barista Pro (which is in this video), the Barista Express Impress, the Barista Touch and the Barista Touch Impress.
Only the Pro model seems to come with the dosing funnel.
Only the Pro and Touch models seem to come with a Baratza grinder.
Not 100% sure on everything but that is my observation from reviews of this confusing amount of versions.
@@Technicellie i mean i just got the barista pro but it didn't come with a dosing funnel.
@@eyup26 you can contact sage , they will send you one
@@eyup26 Yeah that's weird...
I have had the same issue with my bambino plus that was bought a few years ago, where they only came with pressurized baskets so I think there is some weird revision-thing going on...
Ugh, those guys really have to get that stuff together or at least designate correctly. It is kind of a lootbox rn...
I mean you can buy it but it is still a pretty sour taste there
@@Technicellie exactly, also my dirty water tray scratched very at cornery sides.
#baristapro 😉
I’m not getting a good feeling with this machine. Specially with the grinder
Why not?
Why will you throw it at 12:26 ☹️ that coffee bean went through a long global supply chain! If it was a little coarse just use it in drip or Aeropress or something. #sustainableways
I've been using this machine for almost 3 weeks(Breville rather than "Sage"- black colour btw) and it says that I need to flush, so many attempts and changes..🥲
Now the issue is that my cleaning rubber basket has a hole in it, which what I've seen across the internet is not good at all- because it won't backflush properly and all of water would come out of the portafilter. I don't want to waste a cleaning tablet... should I wait until a rubber basket without a hole arrive or do it with the one that came with the machine? Use it every day;)
(Heard that this basket belongs to "newer models" idk)
Good question. They seem to deliver these rubber discs with and without the hole, depending on the vintage. I guess it should work with the hole too, but probably not as well. I suppose it might have the advantage however of cleaning the basket and portafilter while it's at it. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner wow thank you so much:)
How to often do I need to descale the machine?
"You don't have to be so a*** every single time you do this obviously" 😂
My portafilter also is quite hard to tighten. Do I have to tighten the portafilter all the way to the end stop?
Why was there such a big difference in steam time between the first and second cup, from 51 seconds to just 30 seconds,less milk?
I will probably "downgrade" from a nice e61 machine to this one, I'm tired of long warm-up times.
It gets faster at getting up to steam temperature, and also steaming, once you have already steamed once or twice. So I guess that the thermo block retains some heat.
I agree with you on the E 61 by the way. I don’t have patience for those to warm up either.
Hero
Why no pressure gauge?
Good question. I dont' know why they omit them on the machines with displays...
All of that fuss just to make a cup of coffee??? I'm returning the machine!!!!.... ufff...
@@mexicolindo5411 Sorry to hear that!
I appreciate what you do for us..
thanks so much tom..🤍🌹