These are greedy corporations. They don’t give a shit about the consumer. Only reason why prices are low is because they can’t compete with Nvidia in performance
It’s almost always the case but this was just inconvenient timing. Basically amd is always trying to give the newest rtx series performance with a previous series pricing but shortly discovered nividia was actually releasing a lower price for the 50 series. (Which is shocking because a 4090 can go up to 3000$+) but decided to release a fairly decent price for the newest line. Amd will continue to sell their newest series below the 50 series but have to deal with compensating for giving out 50 series pricing for 50 series performance.
Wait... this whole time... you thought prices were based on.... what? Charity? Chance? Your own bank balance? NEWS JUST IN: BUSINESS DOES BUSINESS EXPOSED!
@@oldoddjobs Stop defending corporate greed. Price should be based on business expenses + around 10% or 20% more for said business to grow and not stagnate. Putting 300+% price is in fact considered greedy among people.
There's no way this is true, though? Especially considering AMDs' recent statements of catering to being more price-friendly; this price tag doesn't make any sense whatsoever, even from a greedy corporations perspective.
Hi @UFDTech, this was mentioned in a lot of comments, including mine, but it's important to note, that bulgarian (and most european) prices have 20% VAT included. US msrp would have been lower than those prices.
Even if you accounting for the 20% VAT, it would still be $750 for the 9070xt and $625 for the non xt version. Ain’t no way they would compete with NVIDIA even if NVIDIA keep their 40 series pricing at that price
Even then, that's more expensive than a highend 7900 XT at every retailer in my country (Germany) and even some XTXs have sold for around the same. I realize that 9070 XT will have some upsides over previous gen 7900-series, but definitely not VRAM size.
i think you may be the one with the error if the $ symbol doesnt mean usd why the article later specify that it's getting lowered to 479 that would be like 200 something usd which you'd be insane if you think AMD would sell it that cheap
True, that reminds of a RadiumPCs video where they made a PC build with an Ryzen 5 5600+RX 6600 for $1000 without saying they're Australia, and most of the comment section called it a scam, which was funny, but they ended up specifying it in the replies.
I found no evidence to support your claim that Bulgarian Lev is commonly written as $; especially since $ is an inherently North American symbol (initially meaning Mexican Pesos).
@@whohan779 article doesn't talk about any currency conversion which is rare for a multiple currency situation like Lev and USD. And on the article itself: Update [1/28/2025] - AMD's Frank Azor has responded to the new pricing rumor and stated that the $899 US starting price point was never part of the plan, so we can expect a lower price point. End of article. IMO say most likely the price would be between 459 to 550USD. Not 899 USD but 899Lev.
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Worth noting is that tech based products such as phones and GPUs tend to have a much higher price outside the US, as was the case in this example. Sometimes 50%, sometimes multiples. This doesn’t take into account sales tax, which I don’t believe is a prominent thing outside the US. It could be, but here in the EU we use VAT so that’s another thing to keep in mind.
That shows you how huge the margins are and how we are making everyone rich while we are selling vital organs to buy a slightly better GPU. As always competition is the key for us the customers.
Yeah i might upgrade my 6900XT to a 7900XTX at some point, but honestly a undervolted 6900xt works perfectly on 2k resolution. Runs the newest games like no problem.
Idk if this is true. 9070xt is better than the 5070ti in performance but 10% worse than the 5080. Still, card should be around $700 or less given the state of the 7900xtx, which has similar performance for around those prices and with more VRAM.
I'm at the point where I've genuinely given up on new gpus and new games. I got a 25yr backlog and the hardware I have atm runs most of it pretty well. I'm skipping out until I have no choice.
@Rullino32no that's a lie. The full video said 2000BGN which is 900USD. If it was 479USD instead, how much further do you think they were going to drop it lol. Stop covering for AMD. They are as bad as Nvidia and Intel. Look at the CPU market. Intel been the budget/value king for a while now. AMD barely launches any Ryzen 3. Look at 7800x3D vs 9800x3D
@@hypocriticaljusticeFTW remember the athlon 200 ge? 50 bucks and you could get yourself a cpu with integrated graphics that could play a whole lot of games, with some tweaking, for not a whole lot of money. Pair it with a decent graphics card and you could get yourself a triple-a 1080p capable machine
@@lorenzopollocaffe6277 yeah but those days are gone now. Athlon is dead. Better to just get a 12th/13th gen i3. 12100F was goated on release and is the chip that made Intel the value king (Ryzen 3 3100/3300X were the last time AMD tried to compete on the low low end). Edit 1: The 12400F is an absolute champ for a more mid range leaning setup too. Edit 2: The 3100 barely competed, I was wrong. The 10100f beat it half the time. Even the 3300X was slower
I find those reports hard to believe seeing as the 5000 series is shaping up to be incredibly undwerwhelming and even more cut down than the 4000 series below the xx90 class cards and even the 5090 is nothing to write home about. There is no way the people at AMD thought it was gonna be worse than it is. If the 5000 series was priced literally any higher or was any slower it couldnt even compete with the 4000 series.
@@aflyingcowboy31 Actions speak louder than words. Just because AMD may have _planned_ to launch at ludicrous prices doesn't make it as bad as when Nvidia _actually_ does.
@@whohan779 It is as bad? AMD literally still uses GDDR6, how are their prices even close to NVidias? Point of fact their last GPUs were still on what a 5/6nm? Yea AMD really is fooling people like you. AMD always launches at slightly less then Nvidia's pricing and you somehow think AMDs prices aren't ludicrous? Some of you guys actually need a reality check.
@@aflyingcowboy31 Nope, you're not profiling who I am correctly. I only ever buy AMD if they are good value or feature _more_ (not necessarily faster) VRAM, because they almost never have exciting exclusive features. The most highend card I have is a 7800 XT out of a discounted prebuild (I harvested other parts from) that I'm selling on. I'm considering getting another 6800, but only because it's $323 (pre-VAT). Last time I actively sought out Radeon was when the 970 was a total scam.
Shame about the fake frames. I don't notice the problems people have with DLSS other than some slight smearing here and there, but I definitely don't like the trend of AI frames increasing then playing it off like a performance increase.
@@SonnoMaku it's a fucking optional feature which is always great to have. The raster performance is still good, the price has been slashed, vram usage reduced a lot, the vram has been upgraded too, reflex has been overhauled. Sure game devs shouldn't rely on it, but that's a dev problem and not Nvidia's. Nvidia has given us free performance, which is always great.
I see. If they CAN adjust the price to that much, then how much does NVIDIA's card really are worth? Maybe it's really only half of the price to build the GPU.
There was one content creator who was talking about what AMD's plan should be, involving short-term profit or stealing away market-share from Nvidia by severely undercutting them in price to make buying AMD a no-brainer for the low-mid tier buyers. Seems like their initial goal was "none of the above." And honestly, with them moving their pricing down to only be approximately what Nvidia's direct competing cards are, it would seem that their answer is still, "none of the above."
I think that AMD bought into the industry rumours that NVidia was going to price gouge the market, and AMD wanting to get as much cash as possible to get AMD more competitive and get more resources. The rumours had the 5090 at $2500 USD and the 5080 at $1500 USD, but those same rumors were that the 5090 was going to be a 4.25 slot card and a 2 slot card water cooled. If NVidia was behind those leaks their marketing team must be patting themselves on the back.
Hopefully Intel gets enough success with Battlemage at $249 to keep going with future 16GB, 24GB, and 32GB releases particularly for people who want to use 32GB cards for their personal and household AI applications.
Just goes to show you that the price on the box is obscenely higher than the cost of production. They could make back their costs 4 or 5 fold to meet investors unrealistic expectations of 5% or higher profits from the previous year... every year.
For anyone wondering, AMD officially came out saying these rumors were not true. I can't confirm how honest they were but yeah they said these rumors were completely false.
Bought a RX7800XT around January 18th with the intent to potentially swap it for a 9070xt with the Newegg refound policy when the new card lunches on January 23rd. I thought the 7800xt was amazin bang for the buck. Holy is that thing unstable. I've had so many crashes in the 48 hours I've had the card. Then I checked Reddit, found it's s very known issue (Famous green and black screen freeze) and the fixes are mind-blowing. Why would you buy a 700$ (CAD) GPU just to metaphorically duck tape it just for it to be stable? Found a 4070 ti super certified refurbished and just ordered it. Good bye AMD
So they CAN sell for FAR LESS MONEY, but they decide NOT TO. They see competition selling for less, and they KNOW NOONE will buy theirs. SO, instead of being NOT GREEDY from the beginning and probably profit MORE, they ALWAYS decide that GREED is the way to go.
And people call Nvidia greedy lol. At least they innovate constantly. CUDA, DLSS/DLAA, Reflex 1/2, RTX-HDR, DLDSR, ChatRTX, NVENC, NTC are all genuinely awesome tech that AMD either doesn't even compete with or competes with pathetically. I am also favorable to frame gen but it has more issues than the above so I'll leave that out. AMD makes worse products, has miniscule market share, and still tries to price gouge consumers. Pathetic. Look at their profit margin if they can half the price and still profit. "The gamer's friend", "budget king" my ass. Their CPUs are peak tho. Overpriced as fuck, but peak. Especially on mobile. But the only AMD gpu I've ever bought is the 780M on my 8845hs.
@@hypocriticaljusticeFTWI still rather there cpu than whatever the hell intel is offering in that department nowadays but what's rlly shocking is that yall believe this video and rumors 😅
I’m having a hard time giving this rumor any merit… One retailer in another country communicates their pricing with AMD, and now we KNOW what AMD was thinking? Different market, different money, different retailers, different people. I don’t think Americans have anything to learn from this. Doesn’t align with anything we’ve heard previously.
I find it hilarious that AMD is supposed to be the underdog and Nvidia was the one that caught them off guard with the pricing, I was a little confused to begin with because I didn't think Nvidia even saw AMD is competition but they still lowered the prices
To be fair they actually reacted correctly in this situation and if they actually have good stock compared to Nvidias non existant stock they could still do ok. But it's AMD they will mess it up regardless.
Can we maybe go back to profit margins below 100%? If you can change your price from 900 to 500 on a whiff that means you have more than 400 of profit...
I think the march delay is less it taking that much time to reimburse retailers and more they need to see exactly how well NVIDIA cards perform to know where they can price their cards. This is classic how it works though. AMD sets prices, everyone buys NVIDIA and then AMD lowers prices. Every generation AMD initiates prices thinking they're equals to NVIDIA and then realize NVIDIA provides more compelling features and they need to lower prices to sell their product.
what makes me actually wonder is, if they planed to sell for 900 and now go down to 5 or 600, that would make a down of 3 - 4 dollars. so either they were planning on massively income by actually hard overprizing or they making a big loss now ... either way its fishy
When min wage keeps getting increases, so does the cost of living cause the laziest and poorest people can actually afford things so now its gotta be rebalanced
Great for Nvidia this time around to drive prices down through competition. But, I think when the Next Generation of GPUs come around, Nvidia will take the hint and gouge higher.
That would be extremely stupid seeing how there's still a few 7900XTX's available online for $897. And a 7900XTX will kick the crap out of a 9070XT, and has 24 gigs of Vram too.
if you think about it, it's a limited edition card, making it +100 bucks and then + tax = 899, so the price might be closer to 649 msrp more or less. the best fair price if they really wanna sell their gpus is 400 for 9070 and 500 for 9070xt if they really wanna compete with nvidia but obviously this is never gonna happen and their gonna price it 50 bucks less than nvidias card like always; they never learn
True, the newer generations should bring the same if not better performance than the previous ones for similar or cheaper prices, selling an RX 9070xt would've destroyed the entire Radeon branding, if it weren't for RDNA 2, AMD would've pretty much failed to establish a mindshare of users who care about their products.
Seems like a bunch of outrage mongering, considering that this price isn’t confirmed and the actual retail price in response to Nvidia Probably will be lower.
if they can just drop the price like that they must really make a profit on these things. makes you wonder how "competitive" they could really be as seeing how much they just dropped it.
A mid-tier graphics card that costs more than a PS5 Pro is insane, but I've heard AMD denied the claim, so hopefully it'll be priced at $479 like they claimed, this rumor has left a bad taste for both PC builders as well as the console gamers who who claimed that PC gaming is expensive, especially when there are many people who think that 1440p is the standard and anyone who can't afford it is broke and/or stuck in the past, I swear that 1440p gamers are the reason why PC gaming isn't convincing, or at least the toxic ones, I've never had a positive experience with one, or at least not that much.
See, this is why it’s so dangerous for there to only be a few competitors in a market. What if AMD and Nvidia had colluded to both set insane prices for their new GPUs? And people wonder why grocery prices are so high when there are only a handful of companies that own 95% of the brands in stores. And with groceries, they didn’t even have to collude, they could just keep the high prices that the COVID supply chain issues caused and then brag at shareholder meetings about how they’ve never had higher profits.
"Mid GPU" was awfully true.
Lol yeah
AMD was rly boutta take a big L on this one if it wasn't for Nvidia's 5070
Like actually factual. AMD said it themselves in writing that it was mid too
Yeah
oh please, if nvidia was more expensive we would all be happy about the pricing. Sorry that AMD assumed the worst in Nvidia like everyone else does.
The fact that they can reduce price in half and still have revenue left for both
It's not a charity
sound like a made up story to make the lineup appear a bargain
@thecornfieldiii2069 Its true i tell this to any homeless person i see begging for money
Their revenue goes to R&D. This means that they have less money per gpu sold to invest in better gpus next time around
@@thijskroft785stop making excuses for billionaire corporations screwing people over.
I think someone else quoted this, “AMD Never Misses an Opportunity to Miss an Opportunity.”*
your quote bad, should be "AMD never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity"
@ not a very nice comment.
Real
@@TJunChuanyour gremma is bad
Well in the gpu department at least in the cpu department they took all the opportunities
I thought AMD is the competitor that reduce nvidia gpu price, apparently it's quite the opposite
It is, however Nvidia is more popular so AMD is done with it.
These are greedy corporations. They don’t give a shit about the consumer. Only reason why prices are low is because they can’t compete with Nvidia in performance
It's just rumours, probably a bunch of lies, like what happened with NVidia leaks
It’s almost always the case but this was just inconvenient timing.
Basically amd is always trying to give the newest rtx series performance with a previous series pricing but shortly discovered nividia was actually releasing a lower price for the 50 series. (Which is shocking because a 4090 can go up to 3000$+) but decided to release a fairly decent price for the newest line.
Amd will continue to sell their newest series below the 50 series but have to deal with compensating for giving out 50 series pricing for 50 series performance.
You mean, AMD is the competitor that always prices their products 50-100 dollars less than Nvidea?
Gentlemen we have a new ngreedia
It should be nvaluedia
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NGreedyA and AMGreeDy nice 😂
GreenaMD
Jensen's jacket just got a little shinier
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Please stop talking about business people as if you know them
@@oldoddjobs it's more shiny because of more RTX
Not with that new Chinese ai. Nvidia stock dropped like 15% after that.
@@torahibikihappend before yet they climbed way up the food chain despite that
They'll charge what ever they feel they can get away with, haven't seen any reviews yet tho so elts see how they stack up with each other
If they actually went with those prices it would've been suicide glad they changed it
Wait... this whole time... you thought prices were based on.... what? Charity? Chance? Your own bank balance?
NEWS JUST IN: BUSINESS DOES BUSINESS
EXPOSED!
yhea dropping from 900 to 400. tells me their production costs must be less than a 100 per card.
@@oldoddjobs Stop defending corporate greed. Price should be based on business expenses + around 10% or 20% more for said business to grow and not stagnate.
Putting 300+% price is in fact considered greedy among people.
@@NothingMeansNothingButNothingincredibly greedy, especially when you're not the top of your own industry lol
This seems a bit weird considering that they were going to stop competing at the high end, but this is like not far off from the 7900 XT price.
AMD already commented and said this $900 mark isnt remotely close.
> Criminal says he's innocent
Imagine thinking they would ever acknowledge that this was their original plan
@Augusto9588 the thing about that is the inoccent and the criminal both say they are inoccent. Evidence is how you try to sort them out.
How convenient the company that got its pants pulled down for overpricing. Just never planned it to be 900
@@Augusto9588 also bulgaria has 21% vat. Even if it was true US Msrp was never close to 900
@@Augusto9588There is a mistake in the article. It’s listed as $899 but it’s 899 in the Bulgarian currency lev. This is around $479 USD.
There's no way this is true, though? Especially considering AMDs' recent statements of catering to being more price-friendly; this price tag doesn't make any sense whatsoever, even from a greedy corporations perspective.
look at the pricing of the Ryzen 7 9800X3D and the Ryzen 7 7800X3D
@@ServantOfAssalamNot the same situation. They have 0 competition in the CPU market currently. They're not leading the GPU market at all.
It's simple really, AMD doesn't profit a lot from these GPUs. And everyone buys Nvidia.
It's simple really, AMD doesn't profit a lot from these GPUs. And everyone buys Nvidia.
I think the 750 usd is true. They tought they could get away with it, but then they saw the 550 price for the 5070 and had to re-think.
Hi @UFDTech, this was mentioned in a lot of comments, including mine, but it's important to note, that bulgarian (and most european) prices have 20% VAT included. US msrp would have been lower than those prices.
In the end, it still should be about 10% as American prices don't show tax when advertising.
Even if you accounting for the 20% VAT, it would still be $750 for the 9070xt and $625 for the non xt version. Ain’t no way they would compete with NVIDIA even if NVIDIA keep their 40 series pricing at that price
Even then, that's more expensive than a highend 7900 XT at every retailer in my country (Germany) and even some XTXs have sold for around the same. I realize that 9070 XT will have some upsides over previous gen 7900-series, but definitely not VRAM size.
The tax isn’t shown in US prices until the point of sale. I have a 10% sales tax and it’s supposed to get higher, sadly.
They have 20% vault tech assisted targeting?!
The Article has an error on the $ symbol doesn't represent USD but Bulgarian lev as currency.
899 lev is 479 USD which is 70 dollar cheaper than 5070.
i think you may be the one with the error if the $ symbol doesnt mean usd why the article later specify that it's getting lowered to 479 that would be like 200 something usd which you'd be insane if you think AMD would sell it that cheap
@@H4L0GUY117 The $ doesn't mean USD...other currencies use the same symbol for their currency.
True, that reminds of a RadiumPCs video where they made a PC build with an Ryzen 5 5600+RX 6600 for $1000 without saying they're Australia, and most of the comment section called it a scam, which was funny, but they ended up specifying it in the replies.
I found no evidence to support your claim that Bulgarian Lev is commonly written as $; especially since $ is an inherently North American symbol (initially meaning Mexican Pesos).
@@whohan779 article doesn't talk about any currency conversion which is rare for a multiple currency situation like Lev and USD. And on the article itself:
Update [1/28/2025] - AMD's Frank Azor has responded to the new pricing rumor and stated that the $899 US starting price point was never part of the plan, so we can expect a lower price point.
End of article. IMO say most likely the price would be between 459 to 550USD. Not 899 USD but 899Lev.
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“We are going to be targeting the budget tier”
@@pattyd343 fr lol
What budget??
"Everyone's and their insurance money too"
Worth noting is that tech based products such as phones and GPUs tend to have a much higher price outside the US, as was the case in this example. Sometimes 50%, sometimes multiples. This doesn’t take into account sales tax, which I don’t believe is a prominent thing outside the US. It could be, but here in the EU we use VAT so that’s another thing to keep in mind.
That shows you how huge the margins are and how we are making everyone rich while we are selling vital organs to buy a slightly better GPU.
As always competition is the key for us the customers.
i can feel the pain in your voice
The 7900xtx is readily available for $800-900 bruh
If you know that why would you think that AMD was planning to release a card that's supposed to be lower tier at almost the same MSRP?
Yeah i might upgrade my 6900XT to a 7900XTX at some point, but honestly a undervolted 6900xt works perfectly on 2k resolution. Runs the newest games like no problem.
Idk if this is true. 9070xt is better than the 5070ti in performance but 10% worse than the 5080. Still, card should be around $700 or less given the state of the 7900xtx, which has similar performance for around those prices and with more VRAM.
I'm at the point where I've genuinely given up on new gpus and new games. I got a 25yr backlog and the hardware I have atm runs most of it pretty well. I'm skipping out until I have no choice.
Now im excited for 5070.
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Love he fact that you wear so many South African sports teams and stuff it's super cool.
hell, amd is going full green style, we need more competition in this sector.
Hope intel can successfully rise from the ashes
From what someone said in the comments, they meant 899 in Bulgarian currency, which is $479, which came from a journalist using the wrong symbol.
@Rullino32no that's a lie. The full video said 2000BGN which is 900USD. If it was 479USD instead, how much further do you think they were going to drop it lol. Stop covering for AMD. They are as bad as Nvidia and Intel. Look at the CPU market. Intel been the budget/value king for a while now. AMD barely launches any Ryzen 3. Look at 7800x3D vs 9800x3D
@@hypocriticaljusticeFTW remember the athlon 200 ge? 50 bucks and you could get yourself a cpu with integrated graphics that could play a whole lot of games, with some tweaking, for not a whole lot of money. Pair it with a decent graphics card and you could get yourself a triple-a 1080p capable machine
@@lorenzopollocaffe6277 yeah but those days are gone now. Athlon is dead. Better to just get a 12th/13th gen i3. 12100F was goated on release and is the chip that made Intel the value king (Ryzen 3 3100/3300X were the last time AMD tried to compete on the low low end).
Edit 1: The 12400F is an absolute champ for a more mid range leaning setup too.
Edit 2: The 3100 barely competed, I was wrong. The 10100f beat it half the time. Even the 3300X was slower
I find those reports hard to believe seeing as the 5000 series is shaping up to be incredibly undwerwhelming and even more cut down than the 4000 series below the xx90 class cards and even the 5090 is nothing to write home about.
There is no way the people at AMD thought it was gonna be worse than it is. If the 5000 series was priced literally any higher or was any slower it couldnt even compete with the 4000 series.
AMD stated that these prices were never correct. It doesn't make any sense.
Never thought i'd hear something like this in my life
I’m just glad I have a decent gpu already I don’t have to worry about all these new ones
To be fair amd has come out and said these prices were never considered but who knows if they considered $50 under those prices
They were guessing nvidia was going to price the 5070 at a grand and the ti at 1150.
You probably mean the non-Ti @900. Because even NGreedia cannot just encroach on previous-gen 80-series pricing that rapidly.
@@whohan779 I like how Nvidia is the greedy one when AMD is literally no different.
@@aflyingcowboy31 Actions speak louder than words. Just because AMD may have _planned_ to launch at ludicrous prices doesn't make it as bad as when Nvidia _actually_ does.
@@whohan779 It is as bad? AMD literally still uses GDDR6, how are their prices even close to NVidias? Point of fact their last GPUs were still on what a 5/6nm? Yea AMD really is fooling people like you.
AMD always launches at slightly less then Nvidia's pricing and you somehow think AMDs prices aren't ludicrous? Some of you guys actually need a reality check.
@@aflyingcowboy31 Nope, you're not profiling who I am correctly. I only ever buy AMD if they are good value or feature _more_ (not necessarily faster) VRAM, because they almost never have exciting exclusive features. The most highend card I have is a 7800 XT out of a discounted prebuild (I harvested other parts from) that I'm selling on. I'm considering getting another 6800, but only because it's $323 (pre-VAT). Last time I actively sought out Radeon was when the 970 was a total scam.
Nvidia having competitive pricing WAS NOT on my 2025 bingo card
Shame about the fake frames. I don't notice the problems people have with DLSS other than some slight smearing here and there, but I definitely don't like the trend of AI frames increasing then playing it off like a performance increase.
Every time I get news about GPUs it's just more silliness and chaos. I hate these companies so much.
@@SonnoMaku it's a fucking optional feature which is always great to have. The raster performance is still good, the price has been slashed, vram usage reduced a lot, the vram has been upgraded too, reflex has been overhauled. Sure game devs shouldn't rely on it, but that's a dev problem and not Nvidia's. Nvidia has given us free performance, which is always great.
@@hypocriticaljusticeFTW its the same performance as last gen which is trash when they were comparing 5070s to 4090s
I'm pretty sure these are the prices in Bulgaria, not in the USA, which is with accounted 20% tax rate of imported goods
This was alr debunked by AMD themselves. They were never going to release them that high.
I see. If they CAN adjust the price to that much, then how much does NVIDIA's card really are worth? Maybe it's really only half of the price to build the GPU.
Still too expensive. Needs to be 399
4080s for 399 sounds kinda delulu but I wanted it to be like this too tbh
Not cheap enough. It should be $300.
@@FrostclawTheGatomon not cheap enough it needs to be 199
$399 is too low, $449-499 makes more sense.
@@marlontel4934 still not cheap enough, should be $149
There was one content creator who was talking about what AMD's plan should be, involving short-term profit or stealing away market-share from Nvidia by severely undercutting them in price to make buying AMD a no-brainer for the low-mid tier buyers. Seems like their initial goal was "none of the above." And honestly, with them moving their pricing down to only be approximately what Nvidia's direct competing cards are, it would seem that their answer is still, "none of the above."
I think that AMD bought into the industry rumours that NVidia was going to price gouge the market, and AMD wanting to get as much cash as possible to get AMD more competitive and get more resources. The rumours had the 5090 at $2500 USD and the 5080 at $1500 USD, but those same rumors were that the 5090 was going to be a 4.25 slot card and a 2 slot card water cooled. If NVidia was behind those leaks their marketing team must be patting themselves on the back.
Hopefully Intel gets enough success with Battlemage at $249 to keep going with future 16GB, 24GB, and 32GB releases particularly for people who want to use 32GB cards for their personal and household AI applications.
That was a fake price announced by the store. AMD have dismissed this rumor
Amd? from what source did you read that or your just making shit up
we used to say: Thanks AMD for being a competitor with Nvidia. Now we say: Thank Nvidia for being a competitor with AMD !
The price would have been lower in the US since we really get inflated prices for PC hardware here in Bulgaria
Just goes to show you that the price on the box is obscenely higher than the cost of production. They could make back their costs 4 or 5 fold to meet investors unrealistic expectations of 5% or higher profits from the previous year... every year.
That's why competition is important
Nvidia saving gamers' money is something i didn't expect
Yeah, never going to happen.
For anyone wondering, AMD officially came out saying these rumors were not true. I can't confirm how honest they were but yeah they said these rumors were completely false.
Bought a RX7800XT around January 18th with the intent to potentially swap it for a 9070xt with the Newegg refound policy when the new card lunches on January 23rd. I thought the 7800xt was amazin bang for the buck. Holy is that thing unstable. I've had so many crashes in the 48 hours I've had the card. Then I checked Reddit, found it's s very known issue (Famous green and black screen freeze) and the fixes are mind-blowing. Why would you buy a 700$ (CAD) GPU just to metaphorically duck tape it just for it to be stable?
Found a 4070 ti super certified refurbished and just ordered it.
Good bye AMD
Im still disappointed that they may just about match the 5070 price instead of being significantly cheaper 😒
Boy am I glad Intel is starting to figure it out. We desperately need a strong 3rd competitor.
So they CAN sell for FAR LESS MONEY, but they decide NOT TO. They see competition selling for less, and they KNOW NOONE will buy theirs.
SO, instead of being NOT GREEDY from the beginning and probably profit MORE, they ALWAYS decide that GREED is the way to go.
And people call Nvidia greedy lol.
At least they innovate constantly. CUDA, DLSS/DLAA, Reflex 1/2, RTX-HDR, DLDSR, ChatRTX, NVENC, NTC are all genuinely awesome tech that AMD either doesn't even compete with or competes with pathetically. I am also favorable to frame gen but it has more issues than the above so I'll leave that out.
AMD makes worse products, has miniscule market share, and still tries to price gouge consumers. Pathetic. Look at their profit margin if they can half the price and still profit. "The gamer's friend", "budget king" my ass. Their CPUs are peak tho. Overpriced as fuck, but peak. Especially on mobile. But the only AMD gpu I've ever bought is the 780M on my 8845hs.
According to AMD's most recent statement the news about 899 price is bull
@@hypocriticaljusticeFTWI still rather there cpu than whatever the hell intel is offering in that department nowadays but what's rlly shocking is that yall believe this video and rumors 😅
Dropping 200$ and still making profit on the card shows how insanely high the profit margins are......
I’m having a hard time giving this rumor any merit… One retailer in another country communicates their pricing with AMD, and now we KNOW what AMD was thinking?
Different market, different money, different retailers, different people. I don’t think Americans have anything to learn from this. Doesn’t align with anything we’ve heard previously.
Holy crap, they were charging nearly double?!
Yeah pretty sad. If they can cut their price that easily it's a pretty mess up.
I find it hilarious that AMD is supposed to be the underdog and Nvidia was the one that caught them off guard with the pricing, I was a little confused to begin with because I didn't think Nvidia even saw AMD is competition but they still lowered the prices
AMD never misses the opportunity to miss an opportunity
To be fair they actually reacted correctly in this situation and if they actually have good stock compared to Nvidias non existant stock they could still do ok. But it's AMD they will mess it up regardless.
Can we maybe go back to profit margins below 100%? If you can change your price from 900 to 500 on a whiff that means you have more than 400 of profit...
This is just an example of why competition is important for is customers
It's good if it's on par with the 5080 but if not then it's op, it will certainly fail
I think the march delay is less it taking that much time to reimburse retailers and more they need to see exactly how well NVIDIA cards perform to know where they can price their cards.
This is classic how it works though. AMD sets prices, everyone buys NVIDIA and then AMD lowers prices. Every generation AMD initiates prices thinking they're equals to NVIDIA and then realize NVIDIA provides more compelling features and they need to lower prices to sell their product.
what makes me actually wonder is, if they planed to sell for 900 and now go down to 5 or 600, that would make a down of 3 - 4 dollars. so either they were planning on massively income by actually hard overprizing or they making a big loss now ... either way its fishy
When min wage keeps getting increases, so does the cost of living cause the laziest and poorest people can actually afford things so now its gotta be rebalanced
Great for Nvidia this time around to drive prices down through competition. But, I think when the Next Generation of GPUs come around, Nvidia will take the hint and gouge higher.
You could buy a really good tv for the price of that thing. Its insane how much these companies are charging for computer parts.
they are pricing their products not by the manufacturing cost or the quality, but by the prices their competitors make.
Going from 900 to 480 just shows how insane there profit margin is.
the fact they are able to do this tells you all about the markup on these products you need to know.
900! My freaking 7900xtx was 1k.
Why would anyone get the 9070xt if their current top end is only 100 more.
Intel my beloved
Intel burned themselves hopefully they get gpus right 😅
To be able to cut prices like that and still make good profit makes me wonder what they would cost if they were priced fairly.
When your competition has better stuff at LOWER prices actually gets costumers
That would be extremely stupid seeing how there's still a few 7900XTX's available online for $897. And a 7900XTX will kick the crap out of a 9070XT, and has 24 gigs of Vram too.
if you think about it, it's a limited edition card, making it +100 bucks and then + tax = 899, so the price might be closer to 649 msrp more or less. the best fair price if they really wanna sell their gpus is 400 for 9070 and 500 for 9070xt if they really wanna compete with nvidia but obviously this is never gonna happen and their gonna price it 50 bucks less than nvidias card like always; they never learn
I'm assuming they wanted to change their pricing to align with Nvidia, to also have a 2000 dollar flagship at some point
how could they cut down the price by 300$ ? are they gonna sell on a loss or were they getting ready to sell overpriced gpu's ?
That's too insane to be real
If they go for $479, they will probably be competitive. At least if the performance is about a 4080.
True, the newer generations should bring the same if not better performance than the previous ones for similar or cheaper prices, selling an RX 9070xt would've destroyed the entire Radeon branding, if it weren't for RDNA 2, AMD would've pretty much failed to establish a mindshare of users who care about their products.
They decided they only wanted to make mid range GPUs, and they're losing in that department to...Nvidia and Intel...? What a flip
Good but now i don't know what i should buy.... Wanted to go AMD but that pricing is bad.
the problem is people are always trying to defending corporations, they are like politicians, never trusty them.
And here is your reminder that the company doesn't care of you like them, you're a consumer, not a person
Seems like a bunch of outrage mongering, considering that this price isn’t confirmed and the actual retail price in response to Nvidia Probably will be lower.
As a South African, this is the 2nd time I noticed you wearing something representing our country 😅. You a fan of our country?
So AMD tried to copy the prices of nvidia too I guess
@@amartyapanja2235 they already did last gen
Really locked in on that 'nvidia but shittier' treadmill.
AMD: We're doing great, lets overcharge our customers
Nvidia's prices were lower because the cards have garbage improvements. Don't thank them, they didn't do it because they are kind.
I only buy graphics cards that are between $475 and $500.😊
They are probably waiting for nvidia's gpu prices to go way up so when they finally release their gpu we won't feel bad about that 900 price tag
This is why we need intel
Why? Amds newer cpus are still incredibly fairly priced it's only resellers selling them at ridiculous prices that are ruining must things
@EndersandYTWe need intel gpus, also amd is getting comfortable with cpus, the ryzen 9000 was a rebranded 7000 series with a 5% performance pricing
AMD after nvidia released their prices: "Guess I'll die then"
If those cards started at 500 bucks, everybody and their mother would own one that would be better for them in the long run
Wow just goes to show how greedy companies are if no one else had a lower price they would all claim that they’d be bankrupt from such a move
if they can just drop the price like that they must really make a profit on these things. makes you wonder how "competitive" they could really be as seeing how much they just dropped it.
Never thought Nvidia would have competitive pricing
They never will have.
I think competitive pricing for 9070 xt should be 500$ and for 9070 450$
I would go even lower.9070 XT at 450 and 9070 380-400.And going even lower if anything from Nvidia gets within 20% of the performance at these prices.
A mid-tier graphics card that costs more than a PS5 Pro is insane, but I've heard AMD denied the claim, so hopefully it'll be priced at $479 like they claimed, this rumor has left a bad taste for both PC builders as well as the console gamers who who claimed that PC gaming is expensive, especially when there are many people who think that 1440p is the standard and anyone who can't afford it is broke and/or stuck in the past, I swear that 1440p gamers are the reason why PC gaming isn't convincing, or at least the toxic ones, I've never had a positive experience with one, or at least not that much.
See, this is why it’s so dangerous for there to only be a few competitors in a market. What if AMD and Nvidia had colluded to both set insane prices for their new GPUs?
And people wonder why grocery prices are so high when there are only a handful of companies that own 95% of the brands in stores. And with groceries, they didn’t even have to collude, they could just keep the high prices that the COVID supply chain issues caused and then brag at shareholder meetings about how they’ve never had higher profits.
And people thought they would release them at a lower price than the 5070 😂
Don’t need a flagship gpu when they can charge flagship pricing for mid-range cards.
Amd stated in a official statement that that price was never intended an those leaks were false