Fretted Violins?

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  • @codascheuer8426
    @codascheuer8426 Год назад +371

    Y’know, I was never a big fan of fretted violins, but your explanation of needing a landmark when playing in loud rock bands makes a lot of sense. I get why fretted violins need to exist now!

    • @ikon4255
      @ikon4255 Год назад +3

      nobody is buying them

    • @devlintaylor9520
      @devlintaylor9520 Год назад +1

      then you place stickers for reference points, like you do when you first learn to play

    • @numsixber
      @numsixber Год назад +2

      There aren’t very many loud rock bands with violinists, if they do include the violin, it is typically only in one or two songs over the span of their entire career.

    • @codascheuer8426
      @codascheuer8426 Год назад

      @@numsixber Well that was was an incredibly stupid response

    • @numsixber
      @numsixber Год назад +1

      @@codascheuer8426
      No it's not ,it's true. Do a little online research and find out how many rock bands had permanent violinist as a member of the band.The vast majority brought in a violinist for a specific song or two throughout the span of their career. And if the violinist got to go on tour with the band and play on the loud stage they make these little things called stickers that you put on a violin when you're learning to play.I'm sure that they could bust out some stickers if they needed the markers because they couldn't hear their instrument right next to their ear.

  • @YvesLopez
    @YvesLopez Год назад +236

    I’m going to get rich & invent / patent a fretted electric violin with locking nuts & a whammy bar to dive bomb with. 🎻

    • @Blockoumi
      @Blockoumi Год назад +29

      I’m no violinist but how would you grab the whammy bar? With your tongue?

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  Год назад +58

      @@Blockoumi Yeah. Both of our hands are pretty busy. And someone already invented a Whammy pedal.

    • @YvesLopez
      @YvesLopez Год назад +58

      @@ElectricViolinShop oh yeah, forgot about that lol. There goes my get rich idea & now it’s back to powerball tickets.

    • @alafawnduh_eg
      @alafawnduh_eg Год назад +2

      😂

    • @pacificcoastpiper3949
      @pacificcoastpiper3949 Год назад

      @@ElectricViolinShop ooowee! That riff was definitely HOT DAMN! level of good sass

  • @dasportsfan2122
    @dasportsfan2122 Год назад +18

    When he said “sacrilegious nonsense” I died of laughter because I get the reference

  • @finnmcool2
    @finnmcool2 Год назад +7

    If anyone gets snippy about the frets just call it a viol and claim to prefer the subtlety of traditional instruments. Then enjoy their sputtering.

  • @spencerplouzek2126
    @spencerplouzek2126 Год назад +10

    That violin really said “💀“

  • @yoshi1.067
    @yoshi1.067 Год назад +75

    I think it is crazy how some people straight up hate this concept. As if music should not be accessible. I play the guitar but I would really like to learn to play the violin one day and these frets could be a good starting point. It certainly won't be easy one way or another.

    • @Eli-el1he
      @Eli-el1he Год назад +6

      Every single beginner violinist has tape on there violin. As a guitarist who is now also playing standing bass you don’t need the tape forever. There is little to no point to pay extra to have an instrument with permanent fake frets when masking tape or a pencil does the same thing.

    • @rewae
      @rewae Год назад +2

      ​@@Eli-el1he I'm not against it, but by faaar it's not every single beginner. Actually I've never seen it in real life, only heard it that especially kids use it in the very beginning.

  • @hvze9848
    @hvze9848 Год назад +10

    As a bass player, if I had somebody yelling at me every time I didn’t play a fretless I’d probably go insane.

  • @naarfaem3530
    @naarfaem3530 Год назад +5

    They used to make these instruments called “Viols” back in the baroque era, they were like a violin (and other string instruments) but they were quieter and had frets.

    • @nilsniemeier5345
      @nilsniemeier5345 Год назад

      Viols are fun, and they're sort of like bizarro world violin family instruments.

  • @RedtheHeeler
    @RedtheHeeler Год назад +33

    By far my favorite electric violin I've seen on this channel is the V

  • @esparka
    @esparka Год назад +18

    It’s kinda strange w/Matt calling me a, “silly goose”, but, I also didn’t think of how a fretted fiddle might actually still be able to slur it up like a drunken sailor, as you did here. Mind blown..

    • @Eli-el1he
      @Eli-el1he Год назад +1

      They are just lines on the fingerboard not real frets

  • @postmortemguitar
    @postmortemguitar Год назад +1

    That skull one looks like something Apocalyptica would use

  • @Xarx42
    @Xarx42 7 месяцев назад

    Frets will probably help in such a scenario, but I think it won't replace proper in-ear monitoring.

  • @Nishye501
    @Nishye501 Год назад +8

    The people who don’t like this really shouldn’t fret

  • @Nibblerr
    @Nibblerr Год назад

    Baritone dudes and bassist going wild after he called that itty bitty neck a long boi

  • @emileemurdock6722
    @emileemurdock6722 Год назад

    That was a really good tune though at the beginning

  • @nameymcnameface6657
    @nameymcnameface6657 Год назад +1

    Would be pretty cool to see the violin solo from Lazaretto by Jack White but with distortion

  • @skateloser4088
    @skateloser4088 Год назад

    That sounded like the lick right before the bridge to Tarantula by the Smashing Pumpkins

  • @SophonsCookieCreations
    @SophonsCookieCreations Год назад +1

    😂 "you silly goose!"🪿 My new cussword replacement.

  • @nilsniemeier5345
    @nilsniemeier5345 Год назад

    When playing a fretted violin, do you finger on the fret or between the frets? When I was learning to play the viola da gambling, I was taught to touch the fret itself, not the space in between them.

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  Год назад +1

      Yeah - you play more or less on top of them. They're laid out in equal temperament, so you can't trust them all the way. They basically provide really nice landmarks that are better than nothing when you're in a bad situation. Say you're in a rock band and you step away from your amp for a second or if your in-ear battery dies or if you're trying to sing and play at the same time with a wonky monitor (not that any of these things would ever happen - lol)

  • @nightowl_chan
    @nightowl_chan Год назад

    You remind me of Georgie from Young Sheldon
    Don't know why🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @gothfather8741
    @gothfather8741 2 месяца назад

    I don't suppose you sell any viola da gamba's, especially ones with more than the usual 7 frets?

  • @firstnamenonapplicable5138
    @firstnamenonapplicable5138 Год назад

    This reminds me of a lapsteel guitar

  • @FN43
    @FN43 Год назад +2

    Big no no

  • @natanvandoorn5660
    @natanvandoorn5660 Год назад +1

    I really love the violin on the bottom left in the background! Is that a Baroque like violin?

  • @1nfius948
    @1nfius948 Год назад

    Well, um, now I'm willing to play violin

  • @misterghee1
    @misterghee1 Год назад

    Electric hurdygurdy tried it yet plz do

  • @isaacflandez1303
    @isaacflandez1303 Год назад

    I need on of these

  • @cosmicprison9819
    @cosmicprison9819 6 месяцев назад

    The sad part is that knowing about this religious war over whether a violin is allowed to have frets or not is what stopped me from looking for a violin teacher.

  • @BargainChad
    @BargainChad Год назад

    I want one. My guitar soloing transfers so smoothly. Great business model. Untapped. Shut up and take my money!

  • @jaredjjacobs
    @jaredjjacobs Год назад

    My upright bass teacher had frett dot ls professionally put into his bass neck and said that it doesn't matter as long as you are in tunes

  • @8Phoenix8
    @8Phoenix8 Год назад +6

    😄 🤣 nice. I wish TWOSETVIOLIN could see this.

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  Год назад +6

      Oh yes, I’m sure they’ll have some very open minded insights.

    • @8Phoenix8
      @8Phoenix8 Год назад +4

      @@ElectricViolinShop I just wish the understood modern styles. I'm sure if they did an improvised violin bass battle with chop and modern techniques, they'd lose. Classical playing isn't everything. It be nice if they learned it "for the greater groove " see what I did there? 😏

    • @alessandrorossi1294
      @alessandrorossi1294 Год назад +1

      @@8Phoenix8 Two Set doesn't understand ANYTHING. They are e-celebrities

    • @vibratingstring
      @vibratingstring Год назад

      ​@@alessandrorossi1294 I disagree. Being an orch dork I get it

    • @lolololo-cx4dp
      @lolololo-cx4dp Год назад

      ​@@alessandrorossi1294 how?. They are just classical violinist lol

  • @user-if2hu8vd8e
    @user-if2hu8vd8e 6 месяцев назад

    Is it possible to convert the fingerboard of Yev104 to a fingerboard with fret?

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Possible? Of course. Do I know anyone who does it? No.

  • @Xin200O
    @Xin200O Год назад +1

    these frets are so cursed 😭

  • @sonofromel
    @sonofromel Год назад

    I thought frets on violins are only like lines painted on hahaha. I never thought they are actually frets. Because you don't hear the fingers running through the frets when you glissando like on guitar.

  • @metalboy1986
    @metalboy1986 Год назад

    Sounds kinda countryish but it might just be what he played

  • @OngoGablogian185
    @OngoGablogian185 Год назад

    Hey man. Chad Kroeger just called me. He's wanting to know when you're going to give him his hair back?

  • @vibratingstring
    @vibratingstring Год назад +5

    I say, if you put frets on, you should tune in 4ths and a major third and call it an electric viol :-)

  • @karenringer5995
    @karenringer5995 Год назад

    So where would I find something like this in the UK please

  • @improvingguitarist1595
    @improvingguitarist1595 Год назад

    How does glissando works on a fretted violin?

  • @fatitankeris6327
    @fatitankeris6327 Год назад

    Viola de Gamba has left the chat

  • @WatermelonEnthusiast
    @WatermelonEnthusiast Год назад

    “All the purists are ᒪᓰᖽᐸᘿ- ᕴᓰ᙭ᖻ

  • @EddyNordica
    @EddyNordica Год назад +7

    Was that a twoset reference? 😆

  • @kevinwillems8720
    @kevinwillems8720 Год назад

    Yeah, like I don't know if the violin player for Ne Obliviscaris has frets, but he's definitely not wrong if he does

  • @Doty6String
    @Doty6String 11 месяцев назад

    lets say ima guitarist, a very reasonable one at that....how hard is it to play one of these.

  • @todcroft6435
    @todcroft6435 Год назад

    I'd start playing it like a bass or ukulele

  • @Kargbo-Reffell_Music
    @Kargbo-Reffell_Music Год назад

    That sir, is a fiddle.

  • @greatbingus
    @greatbingus Год назад

    Can it do chords better than a fretless or no?

  • @Orcastruck
    @Orcastruck Год назад

    Look up "The Little House I Used To Live In" by Frank Zappa if you want to hear the most sickest violin in a rock song

  • @patembersouls
    @patembersouls Год назад

    I saw someone using a fingerboard to help them play once and this other guy was so disgusted 😂

  • @Gabriel-vj1cf
    @Gabriel-vj1cf Год назад

    Long fret board..... I'll have you know.

  • @Smugly33810
    @Smugly33810 Год назад +3

    most string players know where the notes are by instict so its redundant

    • @johnjriggsarchery2457
      @johnjriggsarchery2457 Год назад

      Says someone who has never been on stage other than a high school concert.

    • @Smugly33810
      @Smugly33810 Год назад

      @@johnjriggsarchery2457 Your not invalidating my point your just failing to attack me

  • @blaubarschbube4643
    @blaubarschbube4643 Год назад

    If you have bals, play it like a guitar

  • @Dragoontamer8889
    @Dragoontamer8889 Год назад

    Me as one of these so called “purist” have no problem with fretted violins it’s electronic violins is what makes me cringe a professional violinist can produce sound loud enough for an auditorium so to think that people aren’t able to play loudly with a violin to the point that have to be buffed with an amp pains me deeply.

  • @Chase_Irl
    @Chase_Irl Год назад

    Can it have distortion

  • @1TieDye1
    @1TieDye1 Год назад

    When did you start playing violin?

  • @jonathancarlson6150
    @jonathancarlson6150 Год назад

    Someone tell 2 set about this. 😂

  • @dominicadler-biddle9199
    @dominicadler-biddle9199 Год назад

    Are they actually fretted or are those lines just drawn on there??

  • @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven
    @scharnhorstkaisarbeethoven Год назад +29

    Sacreligious
    🤣🤣

  • @fixedguitar47
    @fixedguitar47 Год назад

    But do you have a true temperament fretted viola?

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  Год назад

      There are no true temperament frets. Equal temperament? Yes.

    • @fixedguitar47
      @fixedguitar47 Год назад +1

      @@ElectricViolinShop So there’s a whole in the market for nerds with good ears

    • @oskarileikos
      @oskarileikos Год назад +1

      ​@@ElectricViolinShopsome guitars have true temperament frets, so it's possible on violins too!

  • @-dany-3374
    @-dany-3374 Год назад

    Can u Shred on this?

  • @jayvardhanchoudhary7487
    @jayvardhanchoudhary7487 Год назад

    Say goodbye to semitones

    • @yeasstt
      @yeasstt Год назад

      The frets on these are low, which is why you can still do glissando/vibrato. You can still play quarter tones on them if you want to, they're just there as a tactile guide for your fingers

  • @AC5SH
    @AC5SH Год назад

    :)

  • @tacocatdeboss7665
    @tacocatdeboss7665 Год назад +1

    I mean technically they aren't even frets so all is well I guess?

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  Год назад +1

      Oh, they’re actual frets. You just use them a little differently than guitar players do.

    • @tacocatdeboss7665
      @tacocatdeboss7665 Год назад +2

      @@ElectricViolinShop Oh neat, i thought they werent raised cuz that gliss sounded so smooth. Just goes to show its in the skill of the player i guess

    • @vibratingstring
      @vibratingstring Год назад +1

      @@tacocatdeboss7665 You don't have to mash a violin string down hard to the freboard to make it play. Therefore you can skate over the top of the frets without engaging them.

  • @acetaminophetus
    @acetaminophetus Год назад

    Viol ent J

  • @stephenknotts6466
    @stephenknotts6466 Год назад

    So are they frets or more like markers?

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  Год назад +1

      They’ve physically frets. If you’re smart, though, you use them more like tapes.

    • @stephenknotts6466
      @stephenknotts6466 Год назад

      @@ElectricViolinShop awesome love your videos

    • @vibratingstring
      @vibratingstring Год назад

      @@ElectricViolinShop You can get them different heights too yes? And aren't Wood violins standard frets lower than Jordan standard? For instance?

  • @scottbrower9052
    @scottbrower9052 Год назад

    Why wouldn't one want to take advantage of frets?

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  Год назад +2

      They're not for everybody. Honestly, if I'm playing classical music in an environment where I can hear myself well, they're just in the way. But that's not how I usually roll.

    • @scottbrower9052
      @scottbrower9052 Год назад

      @@ElectricViolinShop I'm a guitarist....and, since we're not in Herr Mozart's times, unfretted instruments strike me as pointless.

  • @user-zl4dg5fg2o
    @user-zl4dg5fg2o Год назад

    Haha referencing twoset?

  • @everblades4
    @everblades4 Год назад

    Gamba frets are not the same…

  • @formattmusic1359
    @formattmusic1359 Год назад

    i guess my only question, do the fret change the tone at all?

    • @ElectricViolinShop
      @ElectricViolinShop  Год назад +2

      Not very much. If you do an A/B comparison of a fretted and fretless violin and you listen really close, you can hear the difference. If I played a violin and asked you to guess if it was fretted or fretless, you'd have a much harder time - except that the fretted one would be more likely to be in tune.

    • @formattmusic1359
      @formattmusic1359 Год назад +1

      @@ElectricViolinShop awesome, so I have another question. I'm a guitarist, and I'm looking to pickup electric violin. I know the tuning is GDAE, I'm wondering if I could tune it to a guitar tuning of EADG, and kind of the mix the two, because I mean if they have frets, it's not a stretch that the tuning could work both ways, but I'm not a violinist, I'm not sure theyre transferable. Cool video though, you got my sub.

    • @oskarileikos
      @oskarileikos Год назад +1

      ​@@formattmusic1359you would probably have to find some alternative strings, because tuning the standard violin strings into EADG would require tuning some strings way too tight and some way too loose. But anyway, DGBE would be more convenient, because it's the highest 4 of the guitar.
      If you want an easy way to practice playing in GDAE tuning, get a mandolin. You'll see that the tuning makes a whole lot of sense on a small instrument like that and it's actually not difficult at all.

  • @jankisi
    @jankisi Год назад

    I'm very confused. If they are for visual cues why do they need to be raised?
    Besides, string players don't mainly use audio cues to play in tune. If a soloist heard that they played out of tune, it'd already be too late because they already played the out of tune note, even if they correct it afterwards. String players have to trust the decades of practice to make sure they play in tune.
    And if you can't hear yourself it probably means you're playing in tune. At least that is the case when I'm in an orchestra.
    The playing-in-tune and having-visual-cues arguments therefore make little sense to me

    • @yeasstt
      @yeasstt Год назад

      They're raised slightly. Not high enough to stop the string, but high enough for you to feel when they're touching the fret.

  • @nellycameron
    @nellycameron Год назад

    People are going to hell for making such an abomination

    • @StringPlayerGamerOfficial
      @StringPlayerGamerOfficial Год назад +3

      Cry now

    • @Pheonixco
      @Pheonixco Год назад +1

      Well what do you have to lose, the fiddle is the devils instrument already; ever heard that story in Georgia?

  • @donjuandemarco7796
    @donjuandemarco7796 Год назад

    You ain't lying homie I like mine and drop d