RAID 5 & RAID 10 Tutorial & Explanation (NCIX Tech Tips #79)

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024

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  • @qopiqq3629
    @qopiqq3629 5 лет назад +185

    This linus guy should start his own youtube channel, he's good.

    • @aherprasad
      @aherprasad 4 года назад +10

      Naaaah, he'd definitely fail...

    • @mackiebuena1952
      @mackiebuena1952 4 года назад +3

      seriously? hahaha

    • @jamescabarr2921
      @jamescabarr2921 2 года назад

      Is this Linus son all grown up? Way to succeed his father's footsteps!

    • @incubus_the_man
      @incubus_the_man Год назад

      @@jamescabarr2921 baby Linus has come a long way.

  • @thomashammel524
    @thomashammel524 5 лет назад +11

    Wow, blast from the past! So much has changed including Linus!

    • @MSum5
      @MSum5 4 года назад

      I started watching Linus about 2 years before he quit NCIX and started his own business and his 1st employee was Luke. At that time I liked Paul's videos at newegg better than Linus NCIX videos.

  • @danielvidal3048
    @danielvidal3048 7 лет назад +142

    so young. so innocent

    • @placeholder7054
      @placeholder7054 6 лет назад +1

      I wonder what ever happened to that little kid.

    • @GRat9717
      @GRat9717 6 лет назад +13

      Socks and sandals will do that to you.

    • @Tang526
      @Tang526 3 года назад

      kill them all jason

  • @xxfrenchtoastx9546
    @xxfrenchtoastx9546 3 года назад +1

    over 10 years later and still helping me

  • @dezmond9152
    @dezmond9152 6 лет назад +17

    I watched the first and needed more baby linus so now i'm here

  • @aschris87
    @aschris87 14 лет назад +1

    i love this dude been waitin a long time for a raid guide as good as this one i could watch him for hours talking about hardware. id love to do raid 10 with 4x 500gb samsung spinpoint f3 hard drives as they beat raptors and they are the fastest hard drive out at presant...

  • @RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse
    @RetiredRhetoricalWarhorse 10 лет назад +15

    Hah, Linus isn't purrfect, Linus isn't purrfect! Ladida! ;) What's described here is not a RAID 10 but a RAID 01. A RAID 10 will first mirror the data and THEN stripe it across two RAID 1 arrays. The difference? Well, if you have four 1TB drives in there and you lose one, you'll only have to rebuild 1 TB of data. If you stripe first, the whole stripe dies and you have to rebuild 2 TB.

  • @FrankZambaras
    @FrankZambaras 4 года назад

    OMG! Clicked on this and was surprised by the young Linus. You've come a long way, son!

  • @beees3499
    @beees3499 5 лет назад +29

    Can someone please hold that whiteboard for him??

  • @kevinkeane6682
    @kevinkeane6682 9 лет назад

    Good, clear explanation of what can be a confusing topic.

  • @mrosebro
    @mrosebro 12 лет назад

    quest - find raid array information on my knowledge level explained technically yet also in plain english so it's easy enough to understand.
    status - completed
    thank you linux, you have taught me so much yet again! ... stupid bills - keep me from buying toys and setting up ultimate systems... i now want to setup raid 10 for my file server and raid 0 with SSDs for my day to day pc... (if i lose everything on my day to day pc i really dont lose anything)

  • @dbiswas123
    @dbiswas123 13 лет назад +2

    Excellent presentation , with a sense of passion. Thank you so much !!

  • @robdeezle
    @robdeezle 12 лет назад

    That was very helpful couple of videos, I've always heard of raid 0 being used but never knew what it meant... Thanks :)

  • @2DeCipher
    @2DeCipher 13 лет назад

    RAID 10 is like Raid 1+0, but it can also be like 0+1. Depending on your needs, you can mirror then stripe (1+0) or you can stripe then mirror (0+1). Great intro to the topic though.

  • @-Wreckanize-
    @-Wreckanize- 12 лет назад

    @Kole208 Raid is just either combining drives into one drive (raid 0) for much faster performance, or using one drive to back up the other drive simultaneously (raid 1), or doing both at the same time with 4 or more drives (raid 10)

  • @samhill4275
    @samhill4275 10 лет назад

    Super helpful! Much better than the diagrams I was looking at, thanks!

  • @takealready
    @takealready 14 лет назад

    thank you for educating me. I like radi 10 now. It seems like the best of both worlds.

  • @ncbenr
    @ncbenr 13 лет назад

    A technical correction: RAID 0 does not stripe on a bit by bit level. It does it on a block by block level. Block size is often 16k bytes or higher. Bit level striping is RAID 2, which is almost never used.

  • @QuadroNVS
    @QuadroNVS 13 лет назад

    thanks alot ...i didn't fully understand raid untill i watched this video

  • @HetDerwel
    @HetDerwel 11 лет назад

    Another thing... I would probably advise against using onboard RAID controllers, especially in RAID-5 unless you're using Enterprise or RAID Edition drives. In RAID, if a drive drops out of the array, as they frequently can do using consumer market SATA drives, you'll be required to rebuild the array. With controllers like the Intel/Marvel controllers on most motherboards, for a decent sized array, this can take sometimes up to 3 days!
    Use a dedicated RAID controller like an Adaptec 6405.

  • @AstroGamerSteve
    @AstroGamerSteve 11 лет назад

    I would use RAID 0, which has the speed of your drives e.g. a 7,200rpm HDD multiplied by the number of drives e.g. three. This would give you transfers speeds equivalent to a 21,600rpm HDD!
    But make sure to backup regularly with an external hard drive.

  • @FfejerooShore
    @FfejerooShore 14 лет назад +1

    Thanks, Linus. Very informative video!

  • @greatwavefan397
    @greatwavefan397 2 года назад

    This feels like a cool college lecture.

  • @doubleatheman
    @doubleatheman 14 лет назад

    Your right those alarms are LOUD! I was working on a client server, I pulled a drive out that was failing. I seriously thought that the fire alarm was going off. Only after I ran out of the server room did I realize that It was the server itself that was making that horrible high pitched alarm sound. It took me several minutes digging in the raid tools to figure out how to turn the alarm off.

  • @estesb23
    @estesb23 4 года назад

    All these years later, this is what my computer science teacher has us use to learn how to create RAID

  • @radwiimp
    @radwiimp 14 лет назад

    I always wondered what the big deal with RAID was. Now I understand! Thinking about picking up a few 1TBs and setting up an array now...

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 14 лет назад

    I would've done much better in school if I had Linus as my teacher! :-)

  • @JACKxELITE
    @JACKxELITE 2 года назад

    This guys a dork, he'll never get anywhere in life. ❤️😂😂

  • @MarcWeavers
    @MarcWeavers 4 года назад

    still good info just over 10 years later :)

  • @carbonguy9
    @carbonguy9 12 лет назад

    @pistolpete2nd I think the way he said it just came out weird. He meant having a RAID 6 with 4 drives doesn't make much sense. 4tb for 2tb, you might as well use a RAID 1 with 2 2TB drives. RAID 6 is more fail-safe but with 4 drive array you'd be paying way too much for it (4 drives + a RAID card). Once you start expanding out to more than 4 drives you start making up the cost of the redundancy (5 x 1TB drives = 3TB)

  • @JoeyJoJo85
    @JoeyJoJo85 13 лет назад

    @herrjonna2007 I can say the same about RAM, I've never had RAM go faulty on me... the fact is, HDD's are moving parts and if you've ever pulled one apart, they are very fragile, bump one while its reading something and the drive goes faulty... not just that but HDD's also store your important data on it! Besides, RAID setups are usually for business computers and servers, they can't afford to lose data from a faulty HDD, the only common RAID setups for home are RAID 0 for gaming

  • @Osteele
    @Osteele 11 лет назад

    Great presentation. Glad I stumbled upon your channel. Thank you for sharing.

  • @ETphonehomek
    @ETphonehomek 8 лет назад +17

    He said that in RAID 10 you can't get your data back if you lose both from the same RAID 0 config.
    That's not true, the other RAID 0 would be perfectly intact.
    I think he meant if you lose both of the first half or both of the second half drives from each array.

    • @bullishbear277
      @bullishbear277 6 лет назад

      Yeah, I thought I was wrong, If he loses a row (in the figure) he would indeed be in trouble

  • @corneliusjohnson5357
    @corneliusjohnson5357 9 лет назад +10

    "Don't forget to subscrib."

    • @Tristoo
      @Tristoo 9 лет назад

      +Karrotz Witte "Don't forget to subscrib!!"

  • @francistheodorecatte
    @francistheodorecatte 12 лет назад

    Dell PERC 5/i is a good bargain RAID controller. does 0/1/10/5, has upgradeable (to 512MB) cache, and 8 SATA II lanes. Uses an LSI controller so you can use LSI's MegaRAID management software.

  • @SebVEVO
    @SebVEVO 3 года назад +3

    His videos used to be so useful and delivered so much easy to understand information. Nowaydays, it's too much drama about unboxing, destroying things, or showcasing super powerful cpus, and new technologies.

  • @jacobmcr858
    @jacobmcr858 14 лет назад

    I think that you should mention that the given drives in the RAID 5/6 examples are 1TB apiece.

  • @RavindraSingh-fl5sc
    @RavindraSingh-fl5sc 5 лет назад

    Super Tutorial...Its very useful for us. Thanks Dear.

  • @mastermindzh
    @mastermindzh 14 лет назад

    this was really usefull :D never owned that many drives.. so i couldn't ever try it :P
    when you said raid 10 = raid 1 and 0 i already got that one lol
    great review

  • @nappaa
    @nappaa 11 лет назад

    Depends on how long you have been using computers in general and if you update your hardware often enough to never use a hard drive long enough for it to fail. But I'd consider you lucky. I've lost about 4 or 5 of them to drive failure in 15 years. So one every few years on average. Luckily I've never lost data (or only a small part of it) but been able to replace the drive before a complete melt down.

  • @BrutalTurtle
    @BrutalTurtle 14 лет назад

    welcome to ncix tech tips

  • @TyneGibbs12
    @TyneGibbs12 12 лет назад

    The little red scrolling bar on the back of the adaptek raid controller.
    Have a look on RUclips for Knight Rider (he has a scrolling red light on the front of him).

  • @brooklynzoo81
    @brooklynzoo81 14 лет назад

    Great video and informative. Keep up the good work.

  • @ShadowwwLFS
    @ShadowwwLFS 13 лет назад

    Also, for RAID-5, software RAID is waaay better than chipset RAID, and is comparable to hardware RAID. No idea about Windows, but on Linux best option would be mdadm.

  • @TomSerious
    @TomSerious 6 лет назад +1

    But isn't that RAID 01?
    In RAID 10 you mirror 2 drives and again 2 drives (and again ...) then stripe those mirrors together. As I understand his explanation he stripes 2 drives and again 2 drives then mirrors them?... (yes I know that video is nearly 8 years old ^^)

  • @modo203
    @modo203 13 лет назад

    Dude you're great! :)
    so cool for a geek!
    keep up!
    best from NY

  • @asdquet
    @asdquet 13 лет назад

    @sh00taboy You're wrong dude. Look at the diagram again. He wrote the '0's to the top two drives and the '1's to the bottom two drives. In RAID 10 you can lose one drive containing '0' and one drive containing '1' and the array will still function. Those drives can be on the same side of the mirror or on opposite sides, as long as you have one drive containing each piece of data.

  • @TaldrenDR
    @TaldrenDR 11 лет назад

    Losing 1 side of a 1+0 isn't an issue. It is when you lose both sides of each mirror that you are screwed.

  • @quietk
    @quietk 11 лет назад

    There is always the chance they both can fail at the same time or close enough in time to lose all data. Not only to failure or surge but also to fire or other natural disasters. Thats why its a good idea to have offsite backup like Crashplan or Carbonite.

  • @krishna9438
    @krishna9438 11 лет назад

    yes, but your drives performance will be limited to the slower one(the hdd) and capacity to the smaller one

  • @Pyro37976
    @Pyro37976 11 лет назад

    Raid 0, he covers that in another video. The problem with doing that is if even one of the drives fail you lose all the data on both drives.

  • @ShadowwwLFS
    @ShadowwwLFS 13 лет назад

    Um, about 4 drive RAID 6 - RAID 1 of pairs of drives would NOT be safer, because, if two drives from same RAID 1 part fail - the whole array fails!

  • @jeff-TessAD2022
    @jeff-TessAD2022 11 лет назад

    Outstanding presentation!
    Thanks..subscribed!
    JD

  • @MegaMech
    @MegaMech 11 лет назад

    So in theory two drives should never fail at the same time if you have a surge protector... (I know that they can fail, or maybe not work. Plus usually the company *guarantees* that if your equipment fails it will cover upto X dollars, if your HDD failed you get a new one but your old data is still gone.) So generally wouldn't the raid that covers 2 drive failures not be needed if you have the proper protective equipment

  • @eagle56786
    @eagle56786 9 лет назад

    In a RAID 10 array, let's say there are four drives (a, b, c, d). If A and B basically split the data between the two drives, and C and D are mirrors of A and B, let's say both drives A and C fail. Wouldn't you lose all of the data since drive B contains the second half of data for drive A, and D is a mirror of B?

    • @luisbustamante3529
      @luisbustamante3529 9 лет назад

      Indeed you would lost your data, he talk about that situation in the video, but that is very unlikely to happen.

  • @gopetner
    @gopetner 10 лет назад

    Just a point of clarification: What was explained in this video was RAID 0+1 not RAID 10.

  • @omgodzilla10
    @omgodzilla10 12 лет назад

    @Ri1seAgainst Where? On Newegg, they're around $150+. There's one for $113, but it's only 5400rpm and 3gb/s.

  • @TheDaULTIMATEdude
    @TheDaULTIMATEdude 12 лет назад

    need to watch this again LOL
    for the info to sink in;D

  • @akamike102
    @akamike102 10 лет назад

    good info answered a lot for me

  • @SilentSkone
    @SilentSkone 13 лет назад

    @HostileDonut RAID 0+1 requires minimum 3 disks, RAID 10 requires 4. Other than that RAID 10 has better data protection, especially when you're running more then 4 drives.

  • @GEEKinLyfe
    @GEEKinLyfe 14 лет назад

    I say next you should do a video explaining a good star craft 2 setup
    headset, keyboard, mice, (maybe even game pad's).

  • @kivylius
    @kivylius 14 лет назад

    @MatthewDavison89 No, raid make better performance, better read and write speeds, but the problem with raid is that if one hdd go's down, (say you have 2 x hdd's in raid0 (best performance) ALL data is lost (coz they are connected as one harddrive to make better performance), but thats why there is raid 5 and raid 10. Safer but slower..

  • @Sleepersunfire
    @Sleepersunfire 14 лет назад

    great explanation dude

  • @venkateshbabu5623
    @venkateshbabu5623 6 лет назад

    All cell phone should be like this for server architecture.

  • @XriverdogX
    @XriverdogX 13 лет назад

    I have a 500GB. Just got 4 more. Could I create a quad stripe and get a program to transfer the data from my HDD to the quad stripe, and keep the original as a backup?
    In addition I could periodically backup the info off the quad stripe onto the backup HDD to keep it up to date.
    Or would it be better to just start from scratch and use all 5 drives in a RAID 5? If I did this I would have to get a RAID card, which I have no room for. Would also lose data.
    The only other option would be RAID 10

  • @riloh58
    @riloh58 11 лет назад

    Hi, great presentation. I have a query (I hope it makes sense) but surely RAID6 in a 4 disk array provides more security than RAID1 in a 4 disk array (so it does make sense) albeit that storage capacity is the same. Assume you lose 2 drives at the same time (unlucky?), in a RAID1 you would be in trouble if you lost a drive from each side of the mirror and they weren't the same "half". You should still be OK if you lose 2 drives from RAID6. Or am I missing something fundamental? Serious query.

  • @snuggleseal
    @snuggleseal 14 лет назад

    what are the differences (PROS+CONS) between RAID 10, and RAID 01 ????

  • @quietk
    @quietk 11 лет назад

    What you are talking about is a UPS (uninterruptible power supply). If you are going to be putting up that kind of money to build a raid you should at least buy a good surge protector they are really cheap compared to what they are protecting. If you can afford it go with a UPS though for about $150 you can get a CyberPower CP1500AVRLCD that's really good for the price and everything in one.

  • @Browmandude
    @Browmandude 11 лет назад

    Hey i got a question! I cant seem to get my head around why i would be in trouble if both drives in one of the two raid 0 stripes failed. Wouldnt I then just be left with ONE perfectly good and functional raid 0 array? 3:50

  • @joshcad55
    @joshcad55 12 лет назад

    Wait for Raid 10, if you lose both from 1 raid 0 stripe, don't you still have all the data, because you still have a 0 and a 1? Don't you only lose all of your data if the top 2 or the bottom 2 drives fail, so then you would be left with 00 or 11?

  • @mikeymike11206
    @mikeymike11206 14 лет назад

    excellent info... one question, do you still need to use identical drives when building RAID's?

  • @rodrigox600
    @rodrigox600 12 лет назад

    @theniggyboy no if u do that then it will only be Raid 1 or 0 u need at least 4 drives for raid 10

  • @GoldSrc_
    @GoldSrc_ 11 лет назад +1

    I always keep the 0's and 1's on paper as my back up.

  • @davymike761
    @davymike761 10 лет назад

    I've been reading a lot about RAID arrays and solutions and there is a lot of chatter about different RAID levels and their corresponding speeds but virtually nothing about how I will tangibly feel a speed difference in real life. "Better performance", but better where and how? How do I notice this and not just in a bench?

  • @thepoliticalstartrek
    @thepoliticalstartrek 12 лет назад

    What about Raid 5+1. Did it die with SCSI interface. Raid 5+1 is a Raid 5 with a extra drive to parity.

  • @TWBrit
    @TWBrit 11 лет назад

    Hi, bought a U-NAS NSC-800 NAS Server Chassis, it has no PSU, MB or anything.
    I have a a copy of Win home server etc but what I'm wanting to know (other than recommending a silent 1u psu, MBoards and Drives etc) is; Can I, (with Home Serv) run a 4 disk raid 1 & have stand alone disks as well? and where would the best place be to store complete images of various PC C drives in the server etc?
    In the video you mentioned use of an SSD - is that something that you can only do on an that card?

  • @miizu86
    @miizu86 12 лет назад

    Actually there is a big mistake in this video.
    Raid 10 is not a mirror of stripes but a stripe of mirrors. It's a huge difference.
    Check out the explanation on wikipedia for example.

  • @atomicfart3514
    @atomicfart3514 14 лет назад

    If you lost both from one side in RAID 10 wouldn't you still be fine because you'd still have a complete RAID 0 stripe. I think you meant if you lost two of the drive storing the same data. So in terms of the picture if you lost the top two or bottom two then you'd be in trouble.

  • @silver2screen
    @silver2screen 13 лет назад

    This guy is a boss!

  • @AstroGamerSteve
    @AstroGamerSteve 11 лет назад

    Or RAID 0, and backup using an external hard drive. Faster than 10 and you don't have all your data in one place.

  • @rmb1993
    @rmb1993 14 лет назад

    wow i never knew a dedicated card was better then onboard raid. I always thought a dedicated was only if you needed to have more drives.

  • @asdquet
    @asdquet 14 лет назад

    Linus....you're wrong about the RAID 10. You CAN lose both drives on the same side; you CAN'T lose both the top drives or both the bottom drives.

  • @Drogos79
    @Drogos79 9 лет назад

    Your opinion in general on Drobo 5D hooked up with TB, especially with DDR turned on? I am still confused if they are using RAID 6 or some other proprietary technology. Just talked to their CS and according to them you can get DDR even with only 3 drives, which confuses the hack out of me :) thanks for any hints

  • @CruelQuertos
    @CruelQuertos 14 лет назад

    Thanks for the help linus

  • @FunnyFatDenmarkian
    @FunnyFatDenmarkian 11 лет назад

    there are infact huge generators right outside most more important serverfacilities

  • @revampedharpy09
    @revampedharpy09 8 лет назад +7

    so raid 10 is a raid 1 of raid 0s?

    • @jocopowell
      @jocopowell 8 лет назад

      Yes. You get redundancy of RAID 1 and speed of RAID 0. I have seen it referred to as RAID 0+1

    • @badboyhotstar
      @badboyhotstar 7 лет назад

      +Douglas Pomroy yh just gotta remember what raid 0 do and raid 1 do and raid 10 and 01 ill be easy to remember which comes first. 0 = stripes, 1 = mirrors, 10 = mirrors then stripes, 01 = stripes then mirrors if i'm correct.

    • @bullishbear277
      @bullishbear277 6 лет назад

      yes, u r correct

  • @Greeninja13
    @Greeninja13 11 лет назад

    You should really just go with an SSD for your OS and Programs and have HDDs as backup and mass storage. And if you have the cash buy 2 or more SSDs for the OS and Programs to really kill loading times.

  • @mackiebuena1952
    @mackiebuena1952 4 года назад +2

    who's watching this in 2020? 😂

  • @Theprocorey2
    @Theprocorey2 12 лет назад

    do you need the same hdd's to setup raid 5. i want to use software raid because i was told that if you use hardware raid you need all the same type of hdd's and i cant afford to buy not only a raid card but also buy 2 new hdd's and have 2 perfectly fine hdd's as a waste.

  • @Paultimate7
    @Paultimate7 3 года назад

    Im from the future. the year is 2058. The Glycions have taken over--- but enough of that. Needed to see some baby Linus! Thumbs up if youre also watching from 2058!

  • @HOBO129
    @HOBO129 14 лет назад

    omg the transcribe audio is so damn funny they talk about drugs and stuff in the first part :D

  • @endlrls
    @endlrls 13 лет назад

    Thanks for the Up.

  • @seamuswarren
    @seamuswarren 6 лет назад

    Is RAID 10 hot-swappable when a drive fails and expandable as storage needs grow (or do drives have to be the same size)?
    Simply put, I want Lightroom and iTunes to have quick access to data stored externally plus expansion options.
    Historically, my dRobo S has been slow presumably due to the redundancy and HDD overheads.
    I don’t know if it’s possible to turn my dRobo S into an expandable striped RAID with frequent backups to a dRobo 5N (in RAID 5 or RAID 6 mode) and offsite using Backblaze.

  • @TheBoyvic
    @TheBoyvic 10 лет назад

    ok.. when u say to get 3tb are u talking about each drive to be 1tb in a raid 6. Couldnt u double it if you use all 2Tb hard drives instead of 1TB

  • @VietHoangHT
    @VietHoangHT 3 года назад

    If raid 5 volume with 5 drive (4 data 1 parity), i want using for SQLserver (recommend 64KB for data block size), so how much tripe size (not trip size) i should set for RAID? Thank you.

  • @isaac9517
    @isaac9517 12 лет назад

    What about raid 0 with 3 drives
    And also raid 0 with 2 odd spaced drives (one is about half)

  • @gr8108
    @gr8108 11 лет назад

    I like that type of "open pc case". Where can I get one? Or, how it is called?

  • @ManageTheShitOutOfU
    @ManageTheShitOutOfU 10 лет назад

    Could you put SSDs in raid 0, and mirror them on one HDD to get raid 10? If so, would you see the performance of the SSDs, and have the reliability of the HDD?

    • @rainy724
      @rainy724 10 лет назад

      Could you? Yes, in software. No hardware RAID card will support this... Would you want to? No. Half the time it would be reading from the SSD RAID0, the other half the HDD, which would kill the performance. You're much better off regularly imagining the SSD RAID0 to a HDD for backup.

  • @neozeed1984
    @neozeed1984 5 лет назад

    Cool but u have to generally buy the same raid hardware to recover ur data if it fails

  • @FatBoySlim696
    @FatBoySlim696 12 лет назад

    Shouldn't you still see write and read speed improvements on RAID 5 and 6. Or is because of the controller can't handle writing that fast?