@@Dorian_Scott Eh I have this version, the SNES version, the Game Boy version, AND the NES version. I'd highly recommend the NES version, it feels better for some odd reason, as though the Toads were meant for an 8 bit console more than a 16 bit one.
I find it really interesting that while the SNES version were content to increase the colors on the NES version's toads, the Genesis version here actually have redrawn sprites altogether for them!
Both versions redraw the toads. The Both SNES and Genesis version use larger sprites for the toads than the NES version (about 42 pixels tall for both 16bit versions compared to about 32 pixels tall for the NES version). The Genesis version is still considered the better port overall due to the SNES version cutting a few corners (lost visual effects, dialog, music, etc). One oddity is despite having noticeably different toad redraws the double dragon redraws are virtually identical between both ports aside from their palette. Its something of a trend for the two ports: some redrawn sprites are shared between both and others are completely different.
Actually, the character select theme is inside the SNES version, but it went unused. If you want a SNES version with all the musics, then you should play the MSU-1 hack.
This is probably my favorite version of Battletoads & Double Dragon - Rare definitely handled this one with a little more care than the Genesis port of the original Battletoads. Most people know Dave Wise for his SNES music, but he was also one of those composers who knew how to make the Genesis sound grand... even if this game isn't exactly the best example to go by (Snake Rattle 'n Roll holds that distinction for me). I also like how this version corrects some minor visual weirdness that was present in the NES and SNES versions... namely the elevator animations - I know I can't be the only one who was bothered by the elevator doors in Blag's stage opening by sliding upwards when they clearly weren't meant to.
I agree. This is better than the NES & SNES versions. This was the version of Battletoads & Double Dragon I remember trying to beat as a kid. I done it once, and it was a lot of getting used to, But the music made the journey worthwhile. It sounds much better than the SNES & NES versions. I would love to see this game get remade someday for PS4, Switch, & Xbox One. Who's with me!
"Rare definitely handled this one with a little more care than the Genesis port of the original Battletoads." That's because the Mega Drive version of the original Battletoads was not developed by Rare themselves. Rather, Sega licensed the rights of the Mega Drive version and tasked development to the then infant Arc System Works (exactly the same process was done with the Game Gear version of the original Battletoads). The Mega Drive version of Battletoads Double Dragon, on the other hand, is truly "A RARE Production", and it's the only time they ever develop a Battletoads game on a Sega system by themselves (so yes, that makes the Master System version of Battletoads in Battlemaniacs also not developed by them).
Probably because battletoads (1991) was their competetor. The Ninja turtles (1984) franchise was before battletoads. So the turtles creators probably saw battletoads as a turtles rip-off.
It's much more simple than that. Tradewest had publishing rights for both of these series, licensed from their respective creators, something they didn't have with the TMNT. Clearly this was Tradewest's idea, and nothing else.
Fun fact: this was my favorite game on Genesis, but it stopped working for a long time until one day I spit a little bit blowing into the cartridge, like blowing raspberry, and somehow it started working. Anytime it didn’t work after that I would blow raspberry into the cartridge and it would work, weird, isn’t it?
@@ace8656 WAY better. Also, the SNES port has incorrect enemy AI and combos are far harder to land. Videos have also shown to have much more glitches on SNES
@@solarflare9078 Thanks for the reply even if it is a year later lol. I still havent played the Genesis version but I do agree with how the snes feels, I guess I gotta get the rom and try it out now
I have always loved watching the Battletoads emote on screen. The first time we saw that it blew our minds, especially on the Nes. Also...has anybody noticed the amount of sprite scaling happening all over this game?! I never played the 16-bit Battletoads games...there was just so much available. Plus we had Streets of Rage, Final Fight CD, 16-BIT Double Dragon that always caught my attention first. I really missing out...
I'm so confused seeing so many people online claiming the SNES has better sound. Maybe you need to play it with a proper CRT in person to really hear the difference. But in literally every video I've watched comparing all the versions the SNES sounds considerably more muffled than the Genesis with a notable difference in sound variety. The music doesn't even change for the boss fights on SNES! And to claim the NES version is superior to all of them I find kind of silly. The SNES has some key differences but the Genesis version is superior to the NES is pretty much every single way. Don't get me wrong it's a great game no matter how you play it but there's no way the definitive version isn't on Genesis. In the end I guess it all just comes down to nostalgia.
"Maybe you need to play it with a proper CRT in person to really hear the difference." I've... never heard that before. 😶What exactly would a screen technology have to do with sound?
Seems closer to the NES version than the SNES version, but isn't a perfect conversion. Billy and Jimmy on the Select Screen look worried compared to the NES mugs and the bosses' sprites (Big Blag and Manus most notably) don't match the close-ups as well as the SNES did. It also lacks the Missile landing in the Level 6 intro and it makes the transition a bit too sudden.
I never really noticed this before, but did ATLUS games swap billy and jimmy's hair color for the GBA remake? Because billy has brown hair and jimmy is blonde in that one.
I always found it so funny even as a kid how roper looks almost exactly like Schwarzenegger from Predator. Back then a lot of games used to do that s***
I grew up w the genesis version. My friend had the SNES version and I considered that version unplayable. Like the boss music, the space race music when it speeds up whenever you encounter a space bull etc. SNES missing quality of life improvements
If that's all it takes to make a game unplayable, then we sure played a lot of games back then that were unplayable. SNES version's fine, I own it, this Genesis version, the Game Boy version, and the NES one. To me the NES version plays the best, and the NES soundchip sounded much better than the 16 bit versions of this game.
I think this version is the best overall experience among all the versions. The snes version while a bit prettier in ways feels unfinished due to either that really being the case or just questionable omissions. A great game to have in the collection and a rare revisit for me when there's nothing else to do (which is hardly ever the case). I always quit before the Dark Queen battle. And for those of you who don't, shame on you for beating up a pretty lady >:3
If you're talking about the NES version, I can easily agree with you, but I can't agree on the SNES version. It controlled similar with this, but with a "laggier" feel to it.
Guys. It's incredible. I still went through battle toads on the NES without losing lives, it was very, well, very difficult ... Several months of training ... How much time did I lose
@@finodegaragem8773 less remembered? lol If that was the case then the so called Console Wars never existed. Sure the Genesis is below the SNES in terms of popularity but no less remembered like...the CD-I or stuff like that hahaha
Mannnn talk about nostalgic. I'd love for them to come back out with this! Even if it is on the Nintendo switch. I'd prefer it be on other platforms. But WOW this really took me back! How can we get ahold of the big wigs in the gaming corporation to feed them ideas 💡 🤔 I'd definitely love to see this come back like how they did with the tnmnt cowabunga and shredders revenge
@@Keezawea I say that because there are female enemy's that you gotta beat up on this the blonde whip ladys and the dark queen and they are male characters how you didn't catch on to that?
As one of I’m assuming the few women in this comment section who grew up playing this game, I have no issues with it. It’s a video game. And looking at the series as their separate selves, Linda Lash actually had an equal role in the Black Warriors to the men, one of the first female video game characters to be in such a position. The Dark Queen on the other hand is the supreme commander of a space army trying to conquer the galaxy, one of the first major villainess in video games. She’s the one kidnapping the princess instead of being the helpless token female in so many other games at the time. Seeing only the violence against them (in a beat-em-up game) is an insult to their characters and the overlooked impact they had on females in video games.
A great game, but the developers should have done more research into the source material.... "Roper"? That character should have been "Willy"...also what is up with the "Shadow Boss"? I don't remember any enemies like that in the Double Dragon series..
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I love how Professor T. Bird trash talks each boss after every completed stage
like cranky kong in donkey Kong country gba version
@@stephenaremu78 both games are by Rare
Battletoads and Double Dragon is a game that really does justice to both of its namesake series, and the Genesis version is excellent.
Seen the "new" battletoads? More like tmblrtoads, right? And look what they did to the dark queen!
i personally dont care about the game but pixel art on the ıntro is perfect.
@@Dorian_Scott You will not believe. I was able to complete Battle Toads on an 8-bit console without losing lives
And the Genesis had the best music. For whatever reason, the SNEA sound chip made everything sound high pitched. Kinda like an 90’s sax synth.
@@Dorian_Scott Eh I have this version, the SNES version, the Game Boy version, AND the NES version. I'd highly recommend the NES version, it feels better for some odd reason, as though the Toads were meant for an 8 bit console more than a 16 bit one.
I find it really interesting that while the SNES version were content to increase the colors on the NES version's toads, the Genesis version here actually have redrawn sprites altogether for them!
Both versions redraw the toads. The Both SNES and Genesis version use larger sprites for the toads than the NES version (about 42 pixels tall for both 16bit versions compared to about 32 pixels tall for the NES version).
The Genesis version is still considered the better port overall due to the SNES version cutting a few corners (lost visual effects, dialog, music, etc).
One oddity is despite having noticeably different toad redraws the double dragon redraws are virtually identical between both ports aside from their palette. Its something of a trend for the two ports: some redrawn sprites are shared between both and others are completely different.
30 years later and this game is still burned into my brain
Not sure what Rare was thinking not including a character select theme, a boss theme, and a level complete theme in the SNES game.
Actually, the character select theme is inside the SNES version, but it went unused. If you want a SNES version with all the musics, then you should play the MSU-1 hack.
The soundtrack is so good. I love the Genesis sound chip so much, it just sounds so iconic and some developers really knew how to use it
13:34 that little dance was so funny haha
This is probably my favorite version of Battletoads & Double Dragon - Rare definitely handled this one with a little more care than the Genesis port of the original Battletoads.
Most people know Dave Wise for his SNES music, but he was also one of those composers who knew how to make the Genesis sound grand... even if this game isn't exactly the best example to go by (Snake Rattle 'n Roll holds that distinction for me).
I also like how this version corrects some minor visual weirdness that was present in the NES and SNES versions... namely the elevator animations - I know I can't be the only one who was bothered by the elevator doors in Blag's stage opening by sliding upwards when they clearly weren't meant to.
I agree. This is better than the NES & SNES versions.
This was the version of Battletoads & Double Dragon I remember trying to beat as a kid. I done it once, and it was a lot of getting used to, But the music made the journey worthwhile. It sounds much better than the SNES & NES versions.
I would love to see this game get remade someday for PS4, Switch, & Xbox One. Who's with me!
"Rare definitely handled this one with a little more care than the Genesis port of the original Battletoads."
That's because the Mega Drive version of the original Battletoads was not developed by Rare themselves. Rather, Sega licensed the rights of the Mega Drive version and tasked development to the then infant Arc System Works (exactly the same process was done with the Game Gear version of the original Battletoads). The Mega Drive version of Battletoads Double Dragon, on the other hand, is truly "A RARE Production", and it's the only time they ever develop a Battletoads game on a Sega system by themselves (so yes, that makes the Master System version of Battletoads in Battlemaniacs also not developed by them).
This game gives me the same feeling other games like Comix Zone, Streets of Rage and Sonic Spinball give me. Deep deep nostalgia 💫
I always wondered why there never was a crossover between the turtles and the toads
I know, really! Would have made far more sense than the Double Dragons for certain! (L.O.L.!)
@@freakyfornash yeah if anything double dragon and the kunio-kun series wouldve made more sense
Probably because Rash is like Raphael, Zitz Donatello, Pimple Michelangelo, and Shadow Boss The Shredder.
Probably because battletoads (1991) was their competetor. The Ninja turtles (1984) franchise was before battletoads. So the turtles creators probably saw battletoads as a turtles rip-off.
It's much more simple than that. Tradewest had publishing rights for both of these series, licensed from their respective creators, something they didn't have with the TMNT. Clearly this was Tradewest's idea, and nothing else.
The Dark Queen looked as *hot* as ever during that last fight.. You get it? ‘Cause she was- never mind
"Abobo no like intruders!" lol
"Abobo Love a Good Fight"
Maxed out score at the end. PERFECT
amazing game with one of the best soundtracks ever!
As long as you're talking about the SNES version and not this bleeepity bloop crap then yea
Im so happy I love this channel one of the best games for SNES genesis or nes I love the Sega soundtrack
level 3 was the furthest I got back in the days
I could never get past the astroid level
20:41 holy shit a floating sprite of dark queen
Everyone in this game is on roids and i love it
One day my dad came home with this, out of the blue, for no reason. Best thing he's ever done 🤣
Pretty baller ass soundtrack tbh
I don't remember the Shadow Boss looking like Bane.
Fun fact: this was my favorite game on Genesis, but it stopped working for a long time until one day I spit a little bit blowing into the cartridge, like blowing raspberry, and somehow it started working. Anytime it didn’t work after that I would blow raspberry into the cartridge and it would work, weird, isn’t it?
Underrated game, and better than the SNES port too
However, it still doesn't do proper justice to the original NES version in my opinion though.
How so? The audio and graphics are far worse. Does it control better or something?
@@ace8656 WAY better. Also, the SNES port has incorrect enemy AI and combos are far harder to land. Videos have also shown to have much more glitches on SNES
@@solarflare9078 Thanks for the reply even if it is a year later lol. I still havent played the Genesis version but I do agree with how the snes feels, I guess I gotta get the rom and try it out now
@@solarflare9078 Finally got to play the genesis version. It does feel much better lol. This is coming from a person growing up with the SNES
I didn't know that the last boss was Titts McGee lol
I love how the toads grow a ram 🐏 horn when you attempt the ram attack.
when you get mad at your siblings or friends, THIS IS THE GAME TO POP IN!!
I swear Robo Manus keeps changing designs
Right. My favorite design was from Battletoads arcade
Awesome I remember that video game too
I have always loved watching the Battletoads emote on screen. The first time we saw that it blew our minds, especially on the Nes. Also...has anybody noticed the amount of sprite scaling happening all over this game?! I never played the 16-bit Battletoads games...there was just so much available. Plus we had Streets of Rage, Final Fight CD, 16-BIT Double Dragon that always caught my attention first. I really missing out...
Always here for you comments in the description
I think the SNES version of Battletoads and Double Dragon has awesome music.
This game was hard af as a kid....but damn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 they def would have to change the finishing move on the blonde w/ the whip
Genesis version is best soundtrack wise for me !! 🎉
I'm so confused seeing so many people online claiming the SNES has better sound. Maybe you need to play it with a proper CRT in person to really hear the difference. But in literally every video I've watched comparing all the versions the SNES sounds considerably more muffled than the Genesis with a notable difference in sound variety. The music doesn't even change for the boss fights on SNES! And to claim the NES version is superior to all of them I find kind of silly. The SNES has some key differences but the Genesis version is superior to the NES is pretty much every single way. Don't get me wrong it's a great game no matter how you play it but there's no way the definitive version isn't on Genesis.
In the end I guess it all just comes down to nostalgia.
"Maybe you need to play it with a proper CRT in person to really hear the difference."
I've... never heard that before. 😶What exactly would a screen technology have to do with sound?
@@markkoetsier6475 different tvs have different sound outputs..?
Picking up your distant Homies for a all out brawl. 💪🏼
Seems closer to the NES version than the SNES version, but isn't a perfect conversion.
Billy and Jimmy on the Select Screen look worried compared to the NES mugs and the bosses' sprites (Big Blag and Manus most notably) don't match the close-ups as well as the SNES did.
It also lacks the Missile landing in the Level 6 intro and it makes the transition a bit too sudden.
20:41
When the milk truck pulls in.
На денди всё-же интереснее получилась. А музыка в 5м уровне - самая крутая у версии SNES
Roper looking like ezekiel elliot 😅😂
Holy shit I forgot I ever had this game. My bf showed this to me and the memories came flooding back 🤯
We are going on the same path 💪🕹
I love how he got 9999999 at the last hit at the last stage of the game
This version was way tuffer the snes! You could get juggled in this and lose your lives fast
I never really noticed this before, but did ATLUS games swap billy and jimmy's hair color for the GBA remake? Because billy has brown hair and jimmy is blonde in that one.
I always found it so funny even as a kid how roper looks almost exactly like Schwarzenegger from Predator. Back then a lot of games used to do that s***
I grew up w the genesis version. My friend had the SNES version and I considered that version unplayable. Like the boss music, the space race music when it speeds up whenever you encounter a space bull etc. SNES missing quality of life improvements
If that's all it takes to make a game unplayable, then we sure played a lot of games back then that were unplayable. SNES version's fine, I own it, this Genesis version, the Game Boy version, and the NES one. To me the NES version plays the best, and the NES soundchip sounded much better than the 16 bit versions of this game.
Genesis is trash
Always thought it was dumb they didn't give the Toads a jump kick in this.
I think this version is the best overall experience among all the versions. The snes version while a bit prettier in ways feels unfinished due to either that really being the case or just questionable omissions. A great game to have in the collection and a rare revisit for me when there's nothing else to do (which is hardly ever the case). I always quit before the Dark Queen battle. And for those of you who don't, shame on you for beating up a pretty lady >:3
Look who finally found the homing missiles on the pods. The SNES longplay was a pain to watch because you refused to missile.
They screwed up the missiles in the SNES port. Then again, the SNES port screwed a lot of things up
Está bueno el diseño que le pusieron a los sapos
They don’t make games like this anymore.
Yo siempre solía jugar este juego
y isnt there more crossovers like this
Lol not much of an ending
Well Done Rash world 🌎 🌍🌎 Level 5-2
Missile Mayham space 🚀 fire 🔥 General Slaughter 28:04
Always wondered why abobo is 13 feet tall in this game. Lol
Great game but the bosses in this game deserved better treatment. They were all too easy.
Cómo olvidar cuando Terry Crews participo en battletoads 5:31
Snes gad better music while the sega version has better art style.
And NES had best playability
No way, I've listened to both, Genesis has the better music hands down.
The shadow boss music level in snes is my favorite.
@@nickd3139 LMAO this is trash
@@angelvillegas9604 nope
The Nintendo verison still plays the best ironically
This version is better
If you're talking about the NES version, I can easily agree with you, but I can't agree on the SNES version. It controlled similar with this, but with a "laggier" feel to it.
@@solarflare9078 I mean the Genesis game.
@@Dorian_Scott I was posting to OP about the "Nintendo" version.
Man, I forgot to address that 4 years ago
Этот звук глушенного пердежа доносящегося из под ведра 🤢
Лучшая игра и Музыка на 8 бит😎
Sega version would be cooler if after you beat robo manus when he falls apart like snes version did.
The Snes had the best sound and music in my opinion but the graphics were better on the sega
I agree but the snes lacks boss soundtrack and others too but I love the snes ass kicker
Guys. It's incredible. I still went through battle toads on the NES without losing lives, it was very, well, very difficult ... Several months of training ... How much time did I lose
👍👍👍👍👍
16:20 el sapo: no me importa las consecuencias me voy a tirar
Jajaja no se crean
which emulator is it ?
Snes and superior.
_Genesis Does What Nintendon't_ . The Sega version is better.
@@Dorian_Scott genesis is less remembered in the gaming world. There is no mowing sound cover.
@Fino de garagem That's not true at all.
@@finodegaragem8773 less remembered? lol If that was the case then the so called Console Wars never existed. Sure the Genesis is below the SNES in terms of popularity but no less remembered like...the CD-I or stuff like that hahaha
2:50 I wonder why the Dragons were made to look so shit-faced (kinda literally), instead of just using the design of their faces from the intro.
Mannnn talk about nostalgic. I'd love for them to come back out with this! Even if it is on the Nintendo switch. I'd prefer it be on other platforms. But WOW this really took me back! How can we get ahold of the big wigs in the gaming corporation to feed them ideas 💡 🤔 I'd definitely love to see this come back like how they did with the tnmnt cowabunga and shredders revenge
музыка аццтой не то что на денди!!
Денди кайф! Смачный звук ударов💪🏼
La mejor versión es sin duda la de snes , esta es inferior por muy poco, especialmente en el aspecto musical
Al revés tiene mejor musica más la música original cuando vences a los jefes
@@s18283 No se la musica de genesis suena mas como flatulencias que musica.
Sega version was better 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Драконами лучше играть, чем Жабами..ИМХО
Lmfao 16:18
Wow talk about tmnt knockoffs
Ugh, SNES looks, plays, and sounds way better than this.
Plays 🙈
SNES plays so much worse
На 8 бит музыка лучше!
A Feminist cant play this game for multiple reasons.
...ok?
@@Keezawea I say that because there are female enemy's that you gotta beat up on this the blonde whip ladys and the dark queen and they are male characters how you didn't catch on to that?
@@KeezaweaI'm done dude.
I think you misunderstand the concept of feminism.
As one of I’m assuming the few women in this comment section who grew up playing this game, I have no issues with it. It’s a video game. And looking at the series as their separate selves, Linda Lash actually had an equal role in the Black Warriors to the men, one of the first female video game characters to be in such a position. The Dark Queen on the other hand is the supreme commander of a space army trying to conquer the galaxy, one of the first major villainess in video games. She’s the one kidnapping the princess instead of being the helpless token female in so many other games at the time. Seeing only the violence against them (in a beat-em-up game) is an insult to their characters and the overlooked impact they had on females in video games.
Snes is better as the Sega version
Не могу слушать эти противные и ужасные звуки в игре🤮👎🏼 испоганили игру
Man this version sucks
A great game, but the developers should have done more research into the source material.... "Roper"? That character should have been "Willy"...also what is up with the "Shadow Boss"? I don't remember any enemies like that in the Double Dragon series..
13:28- 13:48. Freaking hilarious. 😆 Teaching them damn dominatrix brods a lesson. 🥊⛸️ 🐏