Ive been trying to figure out how to get from place to place on the test server for months now and thanks to you i finally was able to test some abyss filaments in the ship i wanted so Thanks a lot and keep up the great videos!
Appreciate the breakdown Mark. I think I will wait till the ships are finalized to make fits. I did not know how to log into the test server. Thank you for putting that in the video.
Thanks Todd. Yeah there may be a tweek or two yet on them. It looks like the Probe can fire rockets quicker than the server ticks so not sure how that will work.
Pretty stoked, and apparently there are all sorts of lore based stuff happening in the game....there are "Harvesters" being built in Amarr space to harvest "something" from the blue stars.
Loved the video as always! I'm very excited to see new stuff being added into the game, because since I joined in August 2021 I haven't seen any big changes to the game. I wonder if CCP missed something with the Cyclone because it looks like a very lateral move. Especially, when all the other battlecruisers get at least some undisputable upgrades. IGN: Tension Travis
I agree the cyclone is the hardest to see as very special, but sometimes performance can be better than the stats suggest with an inventive fit and a plan.... It will be interesting to see what people come up with.
I would love Navy dessies!! But i don't think boosting their DPD much more would be wise, 1000dps alpha's might upset people!? I think some specialist hulls, like T2 Lite would be cool. maybe an algos with EWAR drone bonuses, but such ships may be too PVP focused to not upset non PVP players. I don't envy CCP for having to try to please such a wide range of needs and dreams across the playerbase that is for sure! o7
I’m a new bro so any update is going to be interesting. I can understand the small beer update will be disappointing to hardcore players but I’m interested in the new ships. Enjoyed the vid fella.
The Eve player base is so varied nothing pleases everyone, and usually annoys someone! It will be interesting to see how the new ships will be used. The frigates could be fun too.
Great thought mate thanks. I think although the ships themselves are not ground breaking it will be interesting to see what people come up with for them fit /use wise.
@@daddex9222 i spent some time on test server playing with fits to understand the differences lets just say some of the passive tanks are just crazy .just a bit hear and there in stats and fittings shifts fitting and usage massively but the frigates are the big change im already seeing how they can be used and liking
I think the gun bonuses for the Myrmidon are mostly there to emphasize, "You are supposed to use Hybrids on Gallente ships." since so many are fitted with Autocannons if not neutralizers. The bonus to webber drone strength seems like CCP are testing the waters with EWar drone-specific-bonuses with this. 50% better web strength might be useful in some cases but I still think EWar drones are deeply under-powered and need an overall buffing pass to pull them out of super-niche use cases. In fact, I would love to see Electronic Attack frigs get drone bays for those that don't have one, and then get ship role bonuses for the drones that match their flavor of EWar. Something like giving the Hyena a 10m3 drone bay, 10Mbps bandwidth, a 100% bonus to the shields/armor/structure of TP and SW-300's and a 50% bonus to the Sig Radius/Web Strength bonus they give. The Cyclone I think, while still being the 'weakest' of the new lineup, if it has the best speed and lowest sig radius could really make it stand out as the Cruiser-and-below assassination ship. The extra ROF plus the extra launcher and application bonus really pushes the design emphasis towards the Tank-n-Spank playstyle. Get in, have a really big health bar, do a boatload of damage to the smaller ships before they can kill you, and leave. The Ferrox confuses me. It's like it's trying to be brawly with the active tank bonus, but also trying to still lean into the kite'y playstyle of rails. Long range brawler? Close range kiter? Really not sure what this ship is trying to be.
The Cyclone Fleet might give the Drake Navy a run for it's money. The extra base shield along with the extra launcher and rate of fire.. but it just might be TOO similar. Looking forward to trying them all out!
I have had fun running lvl 4s in an NI Drake, The Cyclone could be good too. Seeing how people use them, especially for PVP will be interesting. It can be amazing what people come up with! o7
cyclone has a reduced sig radius and can easily fit a 100mn AB, so, I cruise with 1.350m/s with 190m sig radius and 6.3sec into warp. Speedtank basically.
Thanks for the update. Sounds like these might be faction war fair rewards. So with ccp not giving pilots the ability o try without switching corps seems like a miss
I kind of expected this was also hoping for faction destroyer as well but any new ships are good. Let's hope this is just a start and we will not have to wait years to see more. IGN: Budzbud
Yeah I dreamed of some interesting support dessies. Maybe like T2 Lite. More DPS would maybe be too much DPS for an alpha LOL. Skin Code sent mate :) o7
@@daddex9222 Thanks. As a player that has a few years into the game I can feel burnout. I really think new ships will help the game massively. They can't keep going years without releasing them. I understand that the game is massively pushing new player content vs tring to retain the older player but new ships will always bring people around. If one thing a CCP that doesn't ever disappoint its the art team. Let get some new and cool ships in the game. I let 3 of my accounts lapse so I may take the time to do the NPE that has been so focused on the past few years and just get back to maybe the wonder that was eve when I first started playing. Have you ran the new NPE?
Very exciting to see navy issue battlecruiser appear. The current layouts are of course up for change and discussion, which is going to be very exciting. Some of the BC ships will have their method of damage changed while others have their fitting changed. This all leads to a better diversity in ships and fitting. Although I'll admit is it is going to be great to see how these current stats will change over time. IGN : Dianera Dragosha
The Ferox Navy clearly gets my attention, especially as I see the fit you've made. I'll have to complete my gunnery skills, as I have focused a lot on missiles in the past year. I'm also disappointed with the Cyclone Fleet, even it it is ugly (to my eyes) and had no intention to fly it (the Tech 1 that is, but maybe I should as I like missiles and shields). It feels like the Myrmidon and Prophecy Navy are the winners at this sate, they get significant bonus compared to their Tech 1 variant. The blueprints are identical to the existing battlecruiser navy issue, so the price to build should be the same. What we don't know yet is what their LP cost will be (to get the BPC or the built ship). With the militia (FW) NPC corp LP store, the battleships navy are the same price, so hopefully it's going to be the same for the battlecruiser as well. But as always, on the market it's going to be dictated by offers vs demands. For the combat exploration frigates, I've watch a stream (twitch) by Erstchlag and we saw that the Heron Navy underperforms the others significantly. Can't way to see your take on them. FYI, the mirror (copy) of the Tranquility server into the Singularity (test) server is done approximately once every 3 months. Also, you don't need to travel (moveme) to the null sec system of M-OEE8 for the market, as there is at least one station in each constellation in New Eden where you can do your shopping (assuming there is at least one (NPC) station in any constellation (Not exactly sure how it works in Sov Null Sec, if there is no NPC stations). Even Pochven has it's market stations seeded with all we need :) So you shouldn't have to travel really far to find a market station. IGN: Suki Vokkonen
Your take on the new navy Frigates will be fun XD 30% Light/Rocket Damage per level on the new Heron NI, they're not exploration ships! Will they give alphas more of a role in FW? XD Magnate NI for extra 2200+ cargo space in your BS escape bay.
I'm very interested in the Cyclone Fleet Issue. Not sure how it should be tanked though, since it doesnt have the shield boost bonus anymore. Could a passive regen fit work for PvE? But then it would loose some of the benefit of the low sig, so maybe an active tank is the way to go.
Don't know if I get excited. I would haved loved to see totally new ships. Something like a next generation of boats. Thanks for the vid, kind regards Marith of Kazarith Ign
Great run through. Going to be interesting seeing how these are received by the wider community. So much noise for new stuff, this will barely scratch that itch. For me I would love to see new models. Going to get out there in the new Myrm though! Ign: Gregory Deaconforde
First new ships since the OP Triggy bois and it's FINALLY the other faction BCs As already said, putting a different skin on a ship and changing some numbers on the database is not exactly mouthwatering new content and could have been done many years ago, but at least they're here at last, eh?😆 The original Faction BC came out in 2013.
Yeah it is not exactly new ground but something. I think a couple of them will be fun, maybe the frigates more so... It will be interesting to see what people do with them.
Seems to me someone at CCP doesn't like the Minmatar! they always seem to get the rough end of the pineapple. We are constantly reminded that their philosophy is, cram as many guns on as possible, yet it never really happens!
I guess we have to be grateful for what we get, but "new ships" that are identical hulls and apparently slot configurations is pretty weak sauce from CCP.
Yeah I get you, new stats rather then new ships. Maybe there is a reason the info screens have no image for 3 of them yet, I can dream. I was hoping for some dessies though think just more pew would be too much to give an alpha maybe? My ideal would have been some support dessies kinda like the T2 sthat would work for fleet ops for lower skill players, or of course alpha's.
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Ive been trying to figure out how to get from place to place on the test server for months now and thanks to you i finally was able to test some abyss filaments in the ship i wanted so Thanks a lot and keep up the great videos!
Appreciate the breakdown Mark. I think I will wait till the ships are finalized to make fits. I did not know how to log into the test server. Thank you for putting that in the video.
Thanks Todd. Yeah there may be a tweek or two yet on them. It looks like the Probe can fire rockets quicker than the server ticks so not sure how that will work.
Pretty stoked, and apparently there are all sorts of lore based stuff happening in the game....there are "Harvesters" being built in Amarr space to harvest "something" from the blue stars.
Loved the video as always! I'm very excited to see new stuff being added into the game, because since I joined in August 2021 I haven't seen any big changes to the game. I wonder if CCP missed something with the Cyclone because it looks like a very lateral move. Especially, when all the other battlecruisers get at least some undisputable upgrades.
IGN: Tension Travis
I agree the cyclone is the hardest to see as very special, but sometimes performance can be better than the stats suggest with an inventive fit and a plan.... It will be interesting to see what people come up with.
Interesting stuff. It will be an education to see how people use the updated ships…
I wonder, will we see NI destroyers?
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I would love Navy dessies!! But i don't think boosting their DPD much more would be wise, 1000dps alpha's might upset people!? I think some specialist hulls, like T2 Lite would be cool. maybe an algos with EWAR drone bonuses, but such ships may be too PVP focused to not upset non PVP players. I don't envy CCP for having to try to please such a wide range of needs and dreams across the playerbase that is for sure! o7
The extra base shield might make passive tanking the new cyclone pretty nice. The extra dps will make it a nice little boat.
I’m a new bro so any update is going to be interesting. I can understand the small beer update will be disappointing to hardcore players but I’m interested in the new ships. Enjoyed the vid fella.
The Eve player base is so varied nothing pleases everyone, and usually annoys someone! It will be interesting to see how the new ships will be used. The frigates could be fun too.
the navy cyclone looks like a fun smart bomber i have one i used to use on the transport burner the extra high will make it a relevant option again
Great thought mate thanks. I think although the ships themselves are not ground breaking it will be interesting to see what people come up with for them fit /use wise.
@@daddex9222 i spent some time on test server playing with fits to understand the differences lets just say some of the passive tanks are just crazy .just a bit hear and there in stats and fittings shifts fitting and usage massively
but the frigates are the big change im already seeing how they can be used and liking
I think the gun bonuses for the Myrmidon are mostly there to emphasize, "You are supposed to use Hybrids on Gallente ships." since so many are fitted with Autocannons if not neutralizers. The bonus to webber drone strength seems like CCP are testing the waters with EWar drone-specific-bonuses with this. 50% better web strength might be useful in some cases but I still think EWar drones are deeply under-powered and need an overall buffing pass to pull them out of super-niche use cases.
In fact, I would love to see Electronic Attack frigs get drone bays for those that don't have one, and then get ship role bonuses for the drones that match their flavor of EWar. Something like giving the Hyena a 10m3 drone bay, 10Mbps bandwidth, a 100% bonus to the shields/armor/structure of TP and SW-300's and a 50% bonus to the Sig Radius/Web Strength bonus they give.
The Cyclone I think, while still being the 'weakest' of the new lineup, if it has the best speed and lowest sig radius could really make it stand out as the Cruiser-and-below assassination ship. The extra ROF plus the extra launcher and application bonus really pushes the design emphasis towards the Tank-n-Spank playstyle. Get in, have a really big health bar, do a boatload of damage to the smaller ships before they can kill you, and leave.
The Ferrox confuses me. It's like it's trying to be brawly with the active tank bonus, but also trying to still lean into the kite'y playstyle of rails. Long range brawler? Close range kiter? Really not sure what this ship is trying to be.
The Cyclone Fleet might give the Drake Navy a run for it's money. The extra base shield along with the extra launcher and rate of fire.. but it just might be TOO similar. Looking forward to trying them all out!
I have had fun running lvl 4s in an NI Drake, The Cyclone could be good too. Seeing how people use them, especially for PVP will be interesting. It can be amazing what people come up with! o7
cyclone has a reduced sig radius and can easily fit a 100mn AB, so, I cruise with 1.350m/s with 190m sig radius and 6.3sec into warp.
Speedtank basically.
Thanks for the update.
Sounds like these might be faction war fair rewards. So with ccp not giving pilots the ability o try without switching corps seems like a miss
I kind of expected this was also hoping for faction destroyer as well but any new ships are good. Let's hope this is just a start and we will not have to wait years to see more. IGN: Budzbud
Yeah I dreamed of some interesting support dessies. Maybe like T2 Lite. More DPS would maybe be too much DPS for an alpha LOL. Skin Code sent mate :) o7
@@daddex9222 Thanks. As a player that has a few years into the game I can feel burnout. I really think new ships will help the game massively. They can't keep going years without releasing them. I understand that the game is massively pushing new player content vs tring to retain the older player but new ships will always bring people around. If one thing a CCP that doesn't ever disappoint its the art team. Let get some new and cool ships in the game. I let 3 of my accounts lapse so I may take the time to do the NPE that has been so focused on the past few years and just get back to maybe the wonder that was eve when I first started playing. Have you ran the new NPE?
Very exciting to see navy issue battlecruiser appear. The current layouts are of course up for change and discussion, which is going to be very exciting. Some of the BC ships will have their method of damage changed while others have their fitting changed. This all leads to a better diversity in ships and fitting. Although I'll admit is it is going to be great to see how these current stats will change over time.
IGN : Dianera Dragosha
The Ferox Navy clearly gets my attention, especially as I see the fit you've made. I'll have to complete my gunnery skills, as I have focused a lot on missiles in the past year. I'm also disappointed with the Cyclone Fleet, even it it is ugly (to my eyes) and had no intention to fly it (the Tech 1 that is, but maybe I should as I like missiles and shields). It feels like the Myrmidon and Prophecy Navy are the winners at this sate, they get significant bonus compared to their Tech 1 variant.
The blueprints are identical to the existing battlecruiser navy issue, so the price to build should be the same. What we don't know yet is what their LP cost will be (to get the BPC or the built ship). With the militia (FW) NPC corp LP store, the battleships navy are the same price, so hopefully it's going to be the same for the battlecruiser as well. But as always, on the market it's going to be dictated by offers vs demands.
For the combat exploration frigates, I've watch a stream (twitch) by Erstchlag and we saw that the Heron Navy underperforms the others significantly. Can't way to see your take on them.
FYI, the mirror (copy) of the Tranquility server into the Singularity (test) server is done approximately once every 3 months. Also, you don't need to travel (moveme) to the null sec system of M-OEE8 for the market, as there is at least one station in each constellation in New Eden where you can do your shopping (assuming there is at least one (NPC) station in any constellation (Not exactly sure how it works in Sov Null Sec, if there is no NPC stations). Even Pochven has it's market stations seeded with all we need :) So you shouldn't have to travel really far to find a market station.
IGN: Suki Vokkonen
Your take on the new navy Frigates will be fun XD 30% Light/Rocket Damage per level on the new Heron NI, they're not exploration ships! Will they give alphas more of a role in FW? XD Magnate NI for extra 2200+ cargo space in your BS escape bay.
I'm very interested in the Cyclone Fleet Issue. Not sure how it should be tanked though, since it doesnt have the shield boost bonus anymore. Could a passive regen fit work for PvE? But then it would loose some of the benefit of the low sig, so maybe an active tank is the way to go.
Don't know if I get excited. I would haved loved to see totally new ships. Something like a next generation of boats. Thanks for the vid, kind regards Marith of Kazarith Ign
awww I neeeeeed my thrasher navy!!!
Don't we all :(
Great run through. Going to be interesting seeing how these are received by the wider community. So much noise for new stuff, this will barely scratch that itch. For me I would love to see new models. Going to get out there in the new Myrm though! Ign: Gregory Deaconforde
Why do we still not have a T2 or variant Oracle?
First new ships since the OP Triggy bois and it's FINALLY the other faction BCs
As already said, putting a different skin on a ship and changing some numbers on the database is not exactly mouthwatering new content and could have been done many years ago, but at least they're here at last, eh?😆
The original Faction BC came out in 2013.
Yeah it is not exactly new ground but something. I think a couple of them will be fun, maybe the frigates more so... It will be interesting to see what people do with them.
@@daddex9222 Yeah the navy frigates are more or less just giving people an extra option other than Astero for pvp/hacking fits. 😎
@@CadePlaysGames I there is speculation they will slot into a role in the new FW set up, but we will see :)
was hoping for a Missile Ferox :(
Am still stuck on alpha because I’m poor 😂 would be nice
H7mma
Seems to me someone at CCP doesn't like the Minmatar! they always seem to get the rough end of the pineapple. We are constantly reminded that their philosophy is, cram as many guns on as possible, yet it never really happens!
I guess we have to be grateful for what we get, but "new ships" that are identical hulls and apparently slot configurations is pretty weak sauce from CCP.
Yeah I get you, new stats rather then new ships. Maybe there is a reason the info screens have no image for 3 of them yet, I can dream. I was hoping for some dessies though think just more pew would be too much to give an alpha maybe? My ideal would have been some support dessies kinda like the T2 sthat would work for fleet ops for lower skill players, or of course alpha's.
I agree it's garbage.