@@BigBoyLies lots of people here modify their e-scooters it's illegal and they're supposed to be limited to 25 km/h but many of them swap the motors and stuff. I've seen some that have a motor on each wheel and can go past 100km/h. but they're too unstable to go much faster because they're scooters.
boss sign me up for one of those. But if I get caught going over 35ish. I get tickets for not having a motorcycle license. And it gets impounded. :(. At least that's the laws here.
This bike isn't a waste of money actually since on the view count alone, he's already made his money back and then some. So basically now he's scamming us. Lol
@@matthewcramsey7458 It helped bring lots of views to his channel overall. Which he gets paid for. I've looked at his view counts and I can assure you he made his money back and then some, like I said.
The seller won't start helping you, until you start putting his name out there. You gotta put him on blast. I know your trying to be a nice guy about it, but apparently it's not working with the seller.
Ok. Seller opens a new account and posts some more fake reviews to jumpstart his new business. Now what? What you can do is simply not but from China as 80% of those people are looking to maximize profits or any of these middle man websites. Do your research, do some more research, and you won’t get scammed.
Alright dude, this is what you need to do. In Cuba people have been able to upgrade their e-bikes by doing one of two things: OPTION 1: getting a control box (like the one you were trying to connect) which performs for a HIGHER voltage motor. i.e: your e-bike have a 72V motor. What you need to do is to get a controller box developed for higher voltages motor. Or, OPTION 2: You get a lower voltage motor (and this is the most common way to upgrade your e-bike in Cuba) i.e. Your motor is 72V so your controller box. In that case what you need to do is to get a 60V motor and let your controller box (nothing bad is going to happen) By doing it people in Cuba have been able to reach speeds from 80 to 120 Km/h. Also those e-bikes have another problem: their practical range. How far could you get with that one? I bet you never far away than 70 Km. Well, in that case what you need to do is to get another battery and make a connection so you can ADD the current of both batteries. Those batteries commonly are of 72V/20Ah, 72V/30Ah, 72V/35Ah, 72V/45Ah. I bet yours is 72V/20 or 35Ah (with 35Ah your range goes up to almost 100 Km.) So what you need to do is to get a 45Ah battery to increase the range. Any other question don't hesitate to get in touch. Good luck with that e-bike!!
devin southworth doesn’t have to be a bmw but I’m just showing you what you can get for something that’s worth the price. You obviously get played a lot if you don’t know that hella good tuner cars go for 1-2k
I am a Chinese. Usually we use the best product for ourselves. But your foreign business man like to buy the cheapest product. And then go back to sell to you as the normal price or more expensive. This is your business fault, not Chinese product fault. Because the best products usually are also from China, such as iPhone or others. On the other hand, many country's company like to produce goods in China. And then only use himself brand. So i want to say all good or bad products are from China. Just from your choice.
Dude, that hidden gem you have right there!!! This controller sure is capable! 1. Find the 4-pin plug with orange-blue-black wire 2. Look into your shipment if the guy send you any usb dongle, if not, ask him for a USB debug cable. 3. Get the software, I can send you the dropbox link if you like The speed limiter is done inside the configuration software. This motor and controller is fully capable of 150kph or more with 100A current.
the motor isn't at it's max potential. if it were the motor would be louder and higher pitched, kinda like rEEEEEEE instead of rn, which is kinda like reeeeww
Crypto Man that’s what I mean, you can tell just from looking at it that’s it’s a very low budget item, yet still surprised that it doesn’t do what it says on the box
Dude do a charge back every damn thing is in your favor plus banks dont make you ship the bike back because of the cost at least not my bank chase I'm screaming through the screen ChargeBack Not As described
wide awake nothing wrong with him if he did one video and asked for his money back you would not have returned to watch a second video The story would have ended there several videos equal more views simple as that
@@GigabyteWorld but not my plan. I'm not the guy to ask for money back unless I am SURE it's the wrong product. And these videos are filmed live, so I was literally doing all this yesterday.
Bank will pretty much *never* make you give the product back, but that's not *their* problem, it's the seller's problem. Their problem is solving the dispute, and if you didn't get the actual product you paid for, you get your money back. Getting the product back, or the *correct amount of money* out of you, is all on the seller.
Not sure if you've tried this already or its been recommended. Since your programming controller is connecting via a serial connection over USB make sure you are plugged into a USB 2.0 port and not a 3.0 port. While USB 3.0 is technically backwards compatible ive had issues just like this which were fixed by using a different usb port.
It's definitely the controller. Most stock EVs come with lower powered controllers. If you are upgrading go for a new Kelly controller and possibly a motor (qs motor 260 - 20kw for 160km/h). I bought one of these cheap bikes specifically to mod them up with the parts I mentioned.
@@mothafus Correct, I'm just saying that if the specs of the controller is correct and no corners were cut, it should be able to supply 100A to the motor (unless software capped or motor draw less than that)
Thanks for all the updates on this bike I've been obsessed researching these style of electric motorcycle and I'm glad I didn't just buy one yet. It's too bad you can't find a nice one in this price range in the u.s. at this point I think I might just buy a beater over the winter and convert it. I think you have done your viewers a service by keeping us informed and updated sorry about your luck on the purchase so far but you definitely helped some people if that's any consolation haha.
It just sucks that even smaller cc motorcycles aren't in the market, as a small person who wants to get the basics down first, I cant find anything that's either a project bike or overpriced bikes from a dealer that are 250cc and lower
I bought a gas moped from Redfox over internet on sale 459 bucks. Couldn't be happier. It is chinese but does forty five mph uphill. Eighty to one hundred mpg. I think the electrics still need more time to be perfected for reasonable cost.
Turn the bike on while connecting it🤦🏼♂️ it’s like plugging up a iPhone charger into a Mac book and u have to part the charger into the phone and turn the phone on so u can transfer your stuff
Lower spec than advertised is China's whole deal. The only real performance gain you can get is upping the voltage, as with any electric motor. But it's more money and pain for minimal gains with a small motor. I'd really suggest just selling it and moving on. It would probably sell quickly in the fruitcup state anyways, for damn near your investment.
When you see that you could not get up to that speed you should have put that shit back in the box and sent it back to them, did somebody on the customer service and having to troubleshoot it for you without you dismantling the bike because you just destroyed the so-called warranty on a piece of overpriced but nice looking shit;;🤔
yeah man, add some edelbrock heads, maybe 1.6 roller rockers, change out the cam to solid lifter with more duration and lift, change out the intake & jets on the carb then finish it off with more spark, more timing and some headers to dump all that extra air you'll be moving...
There definately is a limiter. It's usually a 4pin wire going to the controller. But regardless good attempt my dude! With respect, Your subscriber!
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I know that limiters come as a nikel-copper alloy current shunt of wich a microcontroller reads a voltage drop and reduces the pwm duty cycle, per phase, accordingly. Also I know that windows virtual serial ports come out with stupid numerotations when a cp28xx (or similar) interface is plugged. Also, some microcontrollers, mostly due to the software running, enable eeprom or flash programming only in certain situations, like at boot or when the rts/cts serial pins are waved. :) Fortunately, ebikes are a bit more than plugging or unplugging a cable to unleash the deamon... or something.
no limiter, he bought an electric scooter that looks like a sportsbike, and it was only labeled as "electric sportsbike"
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@@puregameplay7916 yet, if he pushes like 5-6kw into that rear drive... maybe he'll get that 100km/h he wants. I do wander what that actually draws atm.
Don't comment without knowledge ! There is no limiter or wires to unplug or some button sequence just simple current limit in settings to hide cheap chinese lithium battery weakness.
hey i actually had one of theses sold it and got a faster one but the speed is in direct relation to the motor generally so if its stuck at 70 kmh thats a 2000w motor sorry the seller definitely scammed you
You’ve obviously never bought something directly from China... good luck even getting a hold of “ customer service” and even if you do, they make it such a hassle it wouldn’t be worth it. Not to mention the cost of shipping it back would make him actually lose money. Most of the time they will say that “ will return purchase price when they receive returned product” knowing full well you won’t send it. If you do send it back for whatever reason, it’ll just get “lost in shipping”. Best advice is to make sure you don’t spend too much on anything from China. You rarely get what they advertise and returns or refunds are out of the question.
Will they though? I bought a faulty charger on ali-express, and even with full video documentation of it being faulty (including me using 2 different volt meters and demonstrating that my testing equipment worked) they gave me half my money back, with the explanation "you can still use the charger." I couldn't use the charger as it 100% didn't work, which I very well demonstrated on video....so even if this guy has all of this on video demonstrating that it's faulty, they might not care. It's probably a good first step to try, but expecting a quick and good resolution might be a stretch.
@@BillyBob-ib5df Is that based on personal experience or is that an overarching statement without the benefit of any actual interaction with Alibaba? Believe it or not there are Chinese companies that have good customer service. My friend fixes laptops and trying to fix and get parts from Apple is like pulling teeth but dealing with Lenovo (yes, a Chinese company) is simple.
I say that because of personal experience, not only me but a few of my friends too. I know a few people from China (personally) and very important people, the business world, even one of my costumers is from Germany and he is doing all business from China and he himself told me few things how China trade is working, will be really smart to report this company what they did to you and especially on Aliexpress site, so they can take care of that , and you will see its working.
Wow I actually felt your pain in this video, if I was you ..I would sell it on Craigslist as a beginner bike ..be truthful about the speed.. and sell it for the price that you bought it for.
@stephen kroll my old Honda NSR 125 R from 1989 had a max speed of 160 kph. My fastest 125cc i ever had. One of the fastest 125 bikes in the world. 1989 Models cames from Italy with Racing Modificaton.
@@TheInja Hey -- check out endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=95969 Are you sure it's a CANBUS interface? Those guys are just using a regular cheapie USB-serial converter. There's a lot of info on this controller.
Hello Inja, I've been following your blog as I too am a keen motorcyclist and for the first time was considering buying an electric bike for commuting to work (appx 30 miles). Thank you for your constant updates regarding your purchase. I will not be going electric anytime soon until its been properly tried and tested. And certainly not a motorcycle from ALIBABA (AliExpress)
It is a 72volt 3000watt motor, its probably the controller that's causing it to be slow, for an easy fix solution you can just get your self another controller with a higher Amps discharge together with a compatable battery specs 72v obviously. Some controller you could try are *yuyangking controller* *sinewave controller* I hope this advise could help you a little bit.
this almost looks like my zone s , look for a single wire under the cowling near the battery box , left side .. there may be a wire labeled " please do not unplug " .. unplug it
The Zone S uses the RZ design. This is the DP model. The most obvious difference being the fairings, front indicator, and seat. Daymak EM2 uses this design. Kind of funny about the wire label, which would be the limiter. He has opened it up in a previous video, but unfortunately there is no such wire on this.
i have contact with the manufacture of the hub motor, I've sent them a message to see if they have info on the motor ;) they have holidays in china until the 7th oct so we'll probably first get a reply after that
Hate to tell you other countries have landed craft on the moon also. The Chinese did it this year. You must have not seen that, it was on the dark side of the moon.
Thank you so much for letting everyone know about your experience, maybe it will help someone else avoid this mistake and NEVER spend more on something from Alibaba than you can throw away because 40% of the time you'll get screwed.
I know this is months old and not sure if you got this working but something to try as an IT guy. Right-click the software>Properties>Compatibility>Check Run this program as an Administrator. The fire up the software and see if it connects.
It's in the "How I Bought" video. I'm funneling people to that video because I explain everything about buying one of these in detail and make sure you know the consequences and my experience ordering it. ☕
Thy started to carry some Chinese electric motorcycles here. Paying an extra $500 or so is worth the headaches and loss by dealing locally if buying local is an option.
I am not sure if you tried this already. Did you turn on the bike then click the connect button? Does the error message still pop up? Im just wondering if its struggling connecting to the bike. Idk anything about this lol
I got a 12kw ebike from Leili ebikes on Alibaba and the second I started having issues they stopped messaging me back. I was even using WhatsApp to talk to a guy 1 on 1 regularly. Then my controller started pooping out and he disappeared. They barely knew what they were doing when it came to getting my order correct. Even after correcting them via email OVER AND OVER they still mail me a bike with the wrong colored wheels and wrong seat.
They often have have multiple colors, in the pics, and worse, multiple designs. You need to get a pic of exactly what they're sending you before it ships if that matters to you. Then of course they stop responding if you have any issues.
That motor is 2,880 watts of power max. Do you know even if the batteries are giving the full 72 volts at max power? Many things to test and check, but it just plainly appears to be grossly under powered on what was advertised.
So I have a Chinese electric bike in the Philippines. If you want it to hit 60mph you need to increase the voltage. Yes you can disconnect the governor and that will help a bit, but you wont jump 40% in speed. Chances are you have lead acid battery, so you would need to add another battery, and due to the size it most likely wont fit. The only option you will have is to build a custom lithium battery and that will probably cost you more than the bike. Probably not the news you wanted to hear.
Just my thoughts, "if you didn't hear this before" I would check the voltage of the batteries to see what its putting out. To me it looks like there is more room for more batteries so they might have only gave you half the voltage. I agree with others in using a older computer for the serial port. had the same kind of problems with milling machine i made. it didn't like the USB adapter. A older desk top computer helped but not a older laptop for some reason. I didn't notice if the power was on with the bike when you tried to connect. It might need that, USB especially on laptops don't provide a lot of amps. I hope I helped if not well, good to know you not alone and we all here to support you on this project. Good luck and keep us inform on your progress.
Ever tried to see if your ports are right on your laptop, you laptop might be the one not connecting not your bike , you have everything right for your bike but it looks like you could see if it's com4 or com2 to see if your laptop is on the right port
All this is good to know. I worked for an MC dealer (not electric) that tried to help owners of Knockoff Chinese clones of ATV & dirt bike models even though they seemed to be direct competition. It was soon learned that the products were too cheap to work on. Too many things broke getting to the problem. At least the competition factor faded quick. Sorry to see this happening to you hope you get it worked out. I am thinking 1500 may be too low a price point for a 62 mph bike.
That is actually perfect to keep it a moped in Va. This is important because no registration, no inspection, and most importantly no stupid tax from the government to own it.
Hey! I noticed you are running windows 10. When working with drivers that are unsigned or made by non-recognized companies, there is a lockout in windows. You have to do advanced startup options "Disable driver signature enforcement.” This can be achieved with going to the start menu. power button (bringing up restart, shutdown...) then hold SHIFT + click restart. it should bring you to recovery after restart. Then go to trouble shoot, advanced options. Then finally "start up settings". From there you will restart to a new screen where option F7 allows your drivers!!! You may have the drivers...but unless you've done this, it's locked out!
Try changing the baud rate on the VOTOL-EM-V3 software program. The serial chip needs to convert to CAN and CAN most common baud rates are 125 kbit/s (default CANopen) and 250 kbit/s (J1939). Not sure what the exact baud rate is needed to make the converter work, but the error your getting sounds like a baud rate mismatch.
Brother. One look at your controller tells me all I need to know. It should be twice as big. And 72 volts. Maybe 42 MPH. You need a minimum 120 volts. That's the battery and controller. You might be able to overvolt your current motor with upgraded controller and battery. Try it. Worst case you blow your motor and buy a new one. A crytalis will do the job. Forget software and limiters. That's all BS. I went thru it myself. 120 volt controller/ 120 amp. true 5 to 7 kw motor. 120-volt battery. You will go 60 pluss and do wheelies. It's going to cost you another grand min. Period.
That error that you got, it must be something to do with the com port driver... try to find the device driver for that controller and install it in your laptop, disconnect then connect the wire (USB wire or what ever is connecting your motorcycle to your laptop), turn on your motorcycle, then wait if your laptop detects the motorcycle, then you can click the connect button on the software that you are using.. This might help a bit, or someone might get an idea out of this.
Hey dude . I have a escooter in the fast . The top speed is 55kph - 60kph . And it will go faster like 75-80kph. when i plugged into the charger . It means the bike need more power . Like add more batteries and high amp batteries to get more power . Check your battery how high its voltage and amp
This is a great idea...I "overclocked" airsoft aegs this way changing a 8.4 volt nimh to a 10-12v lipo. The rof changes drastically. I cant see why thia wouldnt work. Please let me.know if you try this. I want an ebike and so far tamaha and zero are looking like the best options
They are definitely worth it if you are shipped the correct bike, my brother just got an 8000w R3 model with a 72v40ah lithium battery from Wuxi Stanford in like 2 1/2 months, it's look turns heads, is whisper quiet and a blast to ride, got up to 40 at half throttle while it's only been ridden halfway down the street and back since it not registered, I personally ride an FZ07 so the lack of any torque on takeoff(feels like riding in 3rd gear) and noise feedback caught me off guard at first but at I'd buy one as a commuter as it is a quick nimble 200lb bike, and can easily overtake cars. The 8000w feels equivalent to a 150cc-250cc, Inja most likely got a 3000w that probably feels like a 50cc
![The CHINESE ELECTRIC SPORTBIKE is FAST [FIRST RIDE after Mods]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6rLezJ3fyGQ/mqdefault.jpg)
just contact alibaba customer service and open a dispute, cuz this is literally a scam.
Yeah, straight-up. This is just stupid. Quite disappointing even as a side-liner.
Once u open dispute it goes real quick
They are chinese what you expect from them .
If he opens a dispute they will resolve it! I have been refunded by Alibaba before just by opening a dispute. They are very fair.
By not opening a dispute .. you become an accomplice to the scam.
Not subbing.
so, its an electric scooter dressed up as a sportbike 😂
Pretty much!
Hmm. Probably makes it super easy to modify if it is.
@@Rose_Butterfly98 its uses a hub motor, like most electric scooter out there. i doubt u can do much with it.
@@BigBoyLies lots of people here modify their e-scooters it's illegal and they're supposed to be limited to 25 km/h but many of them swap the motors and stuff. I've seen some that have a motor on each wheel and can go past 100km/h. but they're too unstable to go much faster because they're scooters.
That make no sense
Looks like you have the best looking electric moped I've ever seen. Looks like you got scammed.
BreakIt MakeItBetter ..... hahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
my moped does 145 km/h tho😕
boss sign me up for one of those. But if I get caught going over 35ish. I get tickets for not having a motorcycle license. And it gets impounded. :(. At least that's the laws here.
This bike isn't a waste of money actually since on the view count alone, he's already made his money back and then some. So basically now he's scamming us. Lol
Shit
Did you see any ads on these videos?
@@mzaphod64 Yes, I did. Just now got an ad for a product called "Simplisafe".
The Nimble Ninja how much money you think you make per viewer $0.000164
@@matthewcramsey7458 It helped bring lots of views to his channel overall. Which he gets paid for. I've looked at his view counts and I can assure you he made his money back and then some, like I said.
up, up, down, down, left, right, left , right, b, a ,b, a start
A b a b select start
Only works on JAPANESE SCAM BIKES!!!😂😂😂😆
I swear that’s a cheat code for mortal combat 2 on Super Nintendo
@@fullnoyz7670 Maybe, but if you remove the last 2 inputs, you have KONAMI'S Contra cheat!!!!
Himora Genma -- b a b a select select start
The seller won't start helping you, until you start putting his name out there. You gotta put him on blast. I know your trying to be a nice guy about it, but apparently it's not working with the seller.
Help us not get scammed by at least telling us who he is
Exactly; and by you not telling who the seller is; some people might think you just making it up; there's no chame on reporting a scammer....
I think he's not saying a name because of some RUclips policies I suppose.
I ordered an Albanian girl on Alibaba.
She didn’t look like Dua Lipa.
Lol!
Actually Albanians do the trafficking
U shouldve ordered photoshoped Albanian girl...than she would have looked like DuaLipa....what you got is what you ordered a Single Ipa model
I ordered a Thai girl on Alibaba once. It came with a penis pre-installed at no extra cost.
@@Haurath Tom Ting turned up not Ting Tom, you know you get used to stuff over time or tom.
Just put the seller's information online so other people won't get scammed.
Ok. Seller opens a new account and posts some more fake reviews to jumpstart his new business. Now what? What you can do is simply not but from China as 80% of those people are looking to maximize profits or any of these middle man websites. Do your research, do some more research, and you won’t get scammed.
@@UnvisitedProfile research doesn't always solve everything in this case
Or don't by shit from scam websites like Alibaba and dumb fucking shit like that
@@TheInja what that guy listed would solve this entire case. Don't spend a bunch of money on Alibaba most people know this.
@@SevenAcid alibaba is a great site if you find great sellers.
Alright dude, this is what you need to do. In Cuba people have been able to upgrade their e-bikes by doing one of two things: OPTION 1: getting a control box (like the one you were trying to connect) which performs for a HIGHER voltage motor. i.e: your e-bike have a 72V motor. What you need to do is to get a controller box developed for higher voltages motor. Or, OPTION 2: You get a lower voltage motor (and this is the most common way to upgrade your e-bike in Cuba) i.e. Your motor is 72V so your controller box. In that case what you need to do is to get a 60V motor and let your controller box (nothing bad is going to happen) By doing it people in Cuba have been able to reach speeds from 80 to 120 Km/h. Also those e-bikes have another problem: their practical range. How far could you get with that one? I bet you never far away than 70 Km. Well, in that case what you need to do is to get another battery and make a connection so you can ADD the current of both batteries. Those batteries commonly are of 72V/20Ah, 72V/30Ah, 72V/35Ah, 72V/45Ah. I bet yours is 72V/20 or 35Ah (with 35Ah your range goes up to almost 100 Km.) So what you need to do is to get a 45Ah battery to increase the range. Any other question don't hesitate to get in touch. Good luck with that e-bike!!
W?
$1500 is actually pretty reasonable for what you're getting assuming everything works ok.
Seeker it’s a scooter... $1500 is trashhhh you can get a tuner bmw for 1500
Chris Lira yeah bro have fun tuning a 1500$ car, be ready to spend about 10k to keep it running for more than a year lol
devin southworth doesn’t have to be a bmw but I’m just showing you what you can get for something that’s worth the price. You obviously get played a lot if you don’t know that hella good tuner cars go for 1-2k
It ended costing way more then 1500 with fees
1500 can get a real bike so no it’s not worth it
LMAO, I thought everyone knew the risk when buying Chinese, it's part of the whole cheap copy culture.
I just bought Chinese yesterday, It tasted wonderful...
@@Pianissimo1970 DONKEYSMELL
That will eventually fail 😂😂😂😂
I am a Chinese. Usually we use the best product for ourselves. But your foreign business man like to buy the cheapest product. And then go back to sell to you as the normal price or more expensive. This is your business fault, not Chinese product fault. Because the best products usually are also from China, such as iPhone or others. On the other hand, many country's company like to produce goods in China. And then only use himself brand. So i want to say all good or bad products are from China. Just from your choice.
@@刘伟-l4r i agree to that....Iphones indeed are Made in China
Dude, that hidden gem you have right there!!! This controller sure is capable!
1. Find the 4-pin plug with orange-blue-black wire
2. Look into your shipment if the guy send you any usb dongle, if not, ask him for a USB debug cable.
3. Get the software, I can send you the dropbox link if you like
The speed limiter is done inside the configuration software. This motor and controller is fully capable of 150kph or more with 100A current.
Keep me in the loop
Dude let me know. This is a gem! A nice buy if you can figure out how to tinker with it.
Let me know also if it works. Because I want to buy one for myself
Just chiming in, would love to see this process
@stephen kroll it is a EM 100S, you can check on google
the motor isn't at it's max potential. if it were the motor would be louder and higher pitched, kinda like rEEEEEEE instead of rn, which is kinda like reeeeww
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
More like ROOOOOOOO
I read this and know exactly what ya mean lmao ....... a screaming electric motor does sound like RRRRrrrrreeeennnnnnnn
Does it go Rraaaaaaaaaaaahhh
@@gamerking2847 rrrarara omammma gaga olalaaah
Buys tech from China..... surprised it’s not as described. LMAO
BACON BITS they have legit stuff and fake stuff
You choose
He chose the cheap shit
Dji is also tech from china
Even tho most things we buy are made in china....
Crypto Man that’s what I mean, you can tell just from looking at it that’s it’s a very low budget item, yet still surprised that it doesn’t do what it says on the box
BACON BITS I wouldn’t put 500$ on that
Not even free
Add better batteries, double the voltage, watch it fly
Crazy LiPo setup. lol
Dude do a charge back every damn thing is in your favor plus banks dont make you ship the bike back because of the cost at least not my bank chase I'm screaming through the screen ChargeBack Not As described
Absolutely!!!!! Started the process 👊🏽
What is wrong with this guy?.....I too have been screaming that at my screen!
wide awake nothing wrong with him if he did one video and asked for his money back you would not have returned to watch a second video
The story would have ended there several videos equal more views simple as that
@@GigabyteWorld but not my plan. I'm not the guy to ask for money back unless I am SURE it's the wrong product. And these videos are filmed live, so I was literally doing all this yesterday.
Bank will pretty much *never* make you give the product back, but that's not *their* problem, it's the seller's problem. Their problem is solving the dispute, and if you didn't get the actual product you paid for, you get your money back. Getting the product back, or the *correct amount of money* out of you, is all on the seller.
I wanna see this thing actually get a 5000w motor and a decent controller. It should move pretty damn good with a true 5000w
Frame, wheels, ancillary electrics and bodywork all look good, right?
@@omardude39 yeah it does...at least for me.
The price will go up. The factory can definitely build a similar model with that kind of motor.
Not sure if you've tried this already or its been recommended. Since your programming controller is connecting via a serial connection over USB make sure you are plugged into a USB 2.0 port and not a 3.0 port. While USB 3.0 is technically backwards compatible ive had issues just like this which were fixed by using a different usb port.
Slap a Razor sticker on it if it don’t already have one hidden lmao
Yep. That thing is basically a Razor scooter.
72 volts at 40 horsepower which is what is printed at the beginning of the code on the Wheel is 2880 watts
A lot of these Chinese bikes have a limiter that turns off after a certain amount of miles like 50 - 300 miles.
That's trippy
@@ianmangham4570 yea they call it the break in period to try and reduce crashes for new riders since the tires are new
Sometimes it's also configurable in the "Settings" or there is an actual limiter somewhere in the circuitry.
@The Seal how can you scam with the truth? (everything is oversold in the paperwork, he needs a proper manual, even if its a pdf) no repair info!
Cool story bro
It's definitely the controller. Most stock EVs come with lower powered controllers. If you are upgrading go for a new Kelly controller and possibly a motor (qs motor 260 - 20kw for 160km/h). I bought one of these cheap bikes specifically to mod them up with the parts I mentioned.
A quick google search returned 100A at 72V for that Votol EM-100, which means it can handle 7.2k watts
Where did you get it from ?
The motor is rated 70KPH for 72V, so unless you overvolt it, the controller is not the limiting factor.
@@daijoubu4529 The motor takes 120A peak, that is the electrical power draw, not the power the motor makes.
@@mothafus Correct, I'm just saying that if the specs of the controller is correct and no corners were cut, it should be able to supply 100A to the motor (unless software capped or motor draw less than that)
This series is pretty unique in youtube, can't wait to know the adventure you have with that shitty chinese ebike lmao love u man!
Haha glad to have you my man 👊🏽
@@TheInja gl with the motovlogs and keep safe! 👊🏻
Dispute this guy and give him a fat zero rating in Alibaba dude.
Damn dude it’s almost like it’s FROM CHINA
Thanks for all the updates on this bike I've been obsessed researching these style of electric motorcycle and I'm glad I didn't just buy one yet. It's too bad you can't find a nice one in this price range in the u.s. at this point I think I might just buy a beater over the winter and convert it. I think you have done your viewers a service by keeping us informed and updated sorry about your luck on the purchase so far but you definitely helped some people if that's any consolation haha.
It just sucks that even smaller cc motorcycles aren't in the market, as a small person who wants to get the basics down first, I cant find anything that's either a project bike or overpriced bikes from a dealer that are 250cc and lower
I bought a gas moped from Redfox over internet on sale
459 bucks. Couldn't be happier. It is chinese but does forty five mph uphill.
Eighty to one hundred mpg.
I think the electrics still need more time to be perfected for reasonable cost.
Turn the bike on while connecting it🤦🏼♂️ it’s like plugging up a iPhone charger into a Mac book and u have to part the charger into the phone and turn the phone on so u can transfer your stuff
I tried it every way
Save yourself the 12 min
(Its the wrong bike )
You have my permission
Mistake were made when u ordered something from china
Lower spec than advertised is China's whole deal.
The only real performance gain you can get is upping the voltage, as with any electric motor. But it's more money and pain for minimal gains with a small motor.
I'd really suggest just selling it and moving on. It would probably sell quickly in the fruitcup state anyways, for damn near your investment.
When you see that you could not get up to that speed you should have put that shit back in the box and sent it back to them, did somebody on the customer service and having to troubleshoot it for you without you dismantling the bike because you just destroyed the so-called warranty on a piece of overpriced but nice looking shit;;🤔
D = drive S = sport R= race
Remember back in the good ol days when if you wanted something to go faster you physically did something to the parts and not programming it?
The good days
yeah man, add some edelbrock heads, maybe 1.6 roller rockers, change out the cam to solid lifter with more duration and lift, change out the intake & jets on the carb then finish it off with more spark, more timing and some headers to dump all that extra air you'll be moving...
There definately is a limiter. It's usually a 4pin wire going to the controller. But regardless good attempt my dude!
With respect,
Your subscriber!
I know that limiters come as a nikel-copper alloy current shunt of wich a microcontroller reads a voltage drop and reduces the pwm duty cycle, per phase, accordingly.
Also I know that windows virtual serial ports come out with stupid numerotations when a cp28xx (or similar) interface is plugged.
Also, some microcontrollers, mostly due to the software running, enable eeprom or flash programming only in certain situations, like at boot or when the rts/cts serial pins are waved. :)
Fortunately, ebikes are a bit more than plugging or unplugging a cable to unleash the deamon... or something.
no limiter, he bought an electric scooter that looks like a sportsbike, and it was only labeled as "electric sportsbike"
@@puregameplay7916 yet, if he pushes like 5-6kw into that rear drive... maybe he'll get that 100km/h he wants.
I do wander what that actually draws atm.
There is defenetly no limiter..
Don't comment without knowledge ! There is no limiter or wires to unplug or some button sequence just simple current limit in settings to hide cheap chinese lithium battery weakness.
Just open a dispute on aliexpres
He didn't bought it from aliexpress.
Alibaba, and there is a dispute process there too. Failing that, if he paid by CC, they're usually pretty good about false advertising.
Why opening a dispute if you can blameing allllll the time you want? Complaining on sosial media are cOOoLLlL!!!!
0:07 I’m on the toilet pushing fairly. I thought was the air coming out my arsehole
Oh lawd
❤️
hey i actually had one of theses sold it and got a faster one but the speed is in direct relation to the motor generally so if its stuck at 70 kmh thats a 2000w motor sorry the seller definitely scammed you
So now that you know the speedo max speed, compare that to a gps reading...speedo might not be accurate either.
Mine goes faster than the speedo says, so yes should try this,
You’re too nice, I already would of got my money back lol
s2foci for real
He had it shipped from China... What is he spossed to do?.. He just fucked
You’ve obviously never bought something directly from China... good luck even getting a hold of “ customer service” and even if you do, they make it such a hassle it wouldn’t be worth it. Not to mention the cost of shipping it back would make him actually lose money. Most of the time they will say that “ will return purchase price when they receive returned product” knowing full well you won’t send it. If you do send it back for whatever reason, it’ll just get “lost in shipping”. Best advice is to make sure you don’t spend too much on anything from China. You rarely get what they advertise and returns or refunds are out of the question.
Steve Goodwin I’ve bought tons of shit from China, it’s called PayPal dingus.
@@s2foci PayPal sells items?? Lol
IF you buy that from Alibaba, why don't you report them to Alibaba, they will take care of that, you will see and very fast
Robert Glancer ... I really doubt that , China wants people to buy their scams and cheap crap so they can be millionaires
Will they though? I bought a faulty charger on ali-express, and even with full video documentation of it being faulty (including me using 2 different volt meters and demonstrating that my testing equipment worked) they gave me half my money back, with the explanation "you can still use the charger." I couldn't use the charger as it 100% didn't work, which I very well demonstrated on video....so even if this guy has all of this on video demonstrating that it's faulty, they might not care. It's probably a good first step to try, but expecting a quick and good resolution might be a stretch.
@@BillyBob-ib5df Is that based on personal experience or is that an overarching statement without the benefit of any actual interaction with Alibaba?
Believe it or not there are Chinese companies that have good customer service. My friend fixes laptops and trying to fix and get parts from Apple is like pulling teeth but dealing with Lenovo (yes, a Chinese company) is simple.
I say that because of personal experience, not only me but a few of my friends too. I know a few people from China (personally) and very important people, the business world, even one of my costumers is from Germany and he is doing all business from China and he himself told me few things how China trade is working, will be really smart to report this company what they did to you and especially on Aliexpress site, so they can take care of that , and you will see its working.
@@BillyBob-ib5df A foolish racist denies a nation with one thing. Stfu
The seller had nothing to with the manufacturing of that bike bro. He’s just a middle man in it for a quick buck
Yea but it’s Maxing out with no load on it. Put a person on it and it may cut in half
my electric bike does the same with load and without load except when goes up hill it slows down.
Sounds like my washing on spin cycle .
Wow I actually felt your pain in this video, if I was you ..I would sell it on Craigslist as a beginner bike ..be truthful about the speed.. and sell it for the price that you bought it for.
Exact 60km at normal mode and 70 at sports, not more or less. Seems its limited by software.
That's what I thought, too. We'll see!
Are you sure theres no grub screw on the throttle? So it turns further?
@@Ollie-Chazz looked for one but couldn't find one. 👌🏽
@stephen kroll you can buy a brand new Honda cb125 for 2600-2800 and it goes around 130kph
@stephen kroll my old Honda NSR 125 R from 1989 had a max speed of 160 kph. My fastest 125cc i ever had. One of the fastest 125 bikes in the world. 1989 Models cames from Italy with Racing Modificaton.
Being electric the limitation is most likely on the wiring and the components
Flavia Pitariu
Jesus christ. Get the motor testedthen rewound to the specs you want.
Really appreciate you letting everyone know.
I was close to purchasing 4 different bikes off alibaba.
Not Now!
Try getting an old computer with Windows XP
Exactly like an Panasonic toughbook with a serial 9 pin port it always works for me on programming chinese crap
Agreed. If you're using a USB to serial rs232 adapter, I'd try a different one or a much older laptop with old Windows version on it.
Also, even if you do the above steps, expect you'll need to play around with baud rate and COM port settings to get it to work.
Agree with using an actual serial (rs232) port. I have an old laptop for just this reason.
This!
This Bike Series Is Really Blowing Up My Guy Good Luck To You. 💪
Appreciate it 👊🏽
Fuck you gasman you piece of shit.....
That's Chinese for you, when you're still with your money you are the boss but when you give them your money they are the boss.
Really enjoyed this video hope you can get this figured out and look forward to an update... Best of luck🤘
The Chinese F over each other like it’s a national sport, and you are surprised that he isn’t straight with a round eye!?!
.....roundeye.........Hahaha..........
Who expects consumer service when buying Chinese anything ?
Everyone in China?
Hey, I got in contact with the motor manufacturer, showed him a picture of the number on it from your video, and he says it is a 3000w motor.
Thanks bro!
@@TheInja Hey -- check out endless-sphere.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=95969 Are you sure it's a CANBUS interface? Those guys are just using a regular cheapie USB-serial converter. There's a lot of info on this controller.
So 4hp
Of you look indeed at the rearwheel number it says 72v and 40a.
With simple math it is 2880 watt.
So yeah, its a 3000w if the tag is correct.
I remember when I bought my first crotch rocket on wish.
Hello Inja, I've been following your blog as I too am a keen motorcyclist and for the first time was considering buying an electric bike for commuting to work (appx 30 miles). Thank you for your constant updates regarding your purchase. I will not be going electric anytime soon until its been properly tried and tested. And certainly not a motorcycle from ALIBABA (AliExpress)
It is a 72volt 3000watt motor, its probably the controller that's causing it to be slow, for an easy fix solution you can just get your self another controller with a higher Amps discharge together with a compatable battery specs 72v obviously. Some controller you could try are *yuyangking controller* *sinewave controller* I hope this advise could help you a little bit.
this almost looks like my zone s , look for a single wire under the cowling near the battery box , left side .. there may be a wire labeled " please do not unplug " .. unplug it
The Zone S uses the RZ design. This is the DP model. The most obvious difference being the fairings, front indicator, and seat. Daymak EM2 uses this design. Kind of funny about the wire label, which would be the limiter. He has opened it up in a previous video, but unfortunately there is no such wire on this.
i have contact with the manufacture of the hub motor, I've sent them a message to see if they have info on the motor ;)
they have holidays in china until the 7th oct so we'll probably first get a reply after that
That's what Alibaba told me.
YES! Kilometers per hour! Welcome to the rest of the world, USA.
There's people that use kilometers and people that have been to the moon.
Hate to tell you other countries have landed craft on the moon also. The Chinese did it this year. You must have not seen that, it was on the dark side of the moon.
@@aaronvargas2550 NASA is metric.
C. Walker And this is RUclips and that was a joke. Fucking A.
@@aaronvargas2550 people that have been to the moon stoped innovation.
Thank you so much for letting everyone know about your experience, maybe it will help someone else avoid this mistake and NEVER spend more on something from Alibaba than you can throw away because 40% of the time you'll get screwed.
I know this is months old and not sure if you got this working but something to try as an IT guy. Right-click the software>Properties>Compatibility>Check Run this program as an Administrator. The fire up the software and see if it connects.
Hey give us the contact info. Maybe if enough of us contact him, and say we were interested until we saw what happened to you, he will make it right.
It's in the "How I Bought" video. I'm funneling people to that video because I explain everything about buying one of these in detail and make sure you know the consequences and my experience ordering it. ☕
@@TheInja do you even read his comments? 😂😅
Thy started to carry some Chinese electric motorcycles here. Paying an extra $500 or so is worth the headaches and loss by dealing locally if buying local is an option.
man that swingarm is so skinny I would not feel comfortable laying it in a corner.
Was going to buy one when I seen you unbox it now I’ve changed my mind 🤷♂️thanks man 👍🏼
For sure bro. Glad I saved you from all that. 👌🏽
The Inja for sure thanks man appreciate it subbed and 🔔✌️
I am not sure if you tried this already. Did you turn on the bike then click the connect button? Does the error message still pop up? Im just wondering if its struggling connecting to the bike. Idk anything about this lol
Why does it say it has gears in the dashboard says your in 1st gear...
Yeah maybe he just needs to shift it lol
Why does it have a clutch handle lol
Harold rear brakes
Why does it have a petrol tank?
All of you get a "lol"
I got a 12kw ebike from Leili ebikes on Alibaba and the second I started having issues they stopped messaging me back. I was even using WhatsApp to talk to a guy 1 on 1 regularly. Then my controller started pooping out and he disappeared.
They barely knew what they were doing when it came to getting my order correct. Even after correcting them via email OVER AND OVER they still mail me a bike with the wrong colored wheels and wrong seat.
They often have have multiple colors, in the pics, and worse, multiple designs. You need to get a pic of exactly what they're sending you before it ships if that matters to you. Then of course they stop responding if you have any issues.
Lol this thing is a scooter with sport bike looks big got scammed
😂😂
We never know if wheels meet no pavement😳
My Educated guesse. My scooter run circles around😂🤣🤣🤣
But never know if tires mary no tarmac😨😱🤯
@@tomfwrongwayfinishline1374 ruclips.net/video/HYYBYGFI8kE/видео.html
Imagine being the guy who helped you out and your shout out to him is. " You know who you're"🤣🤦🏻♂️
Bro your views are popping congrats !
Sad how you got scammed. It honestly is you should’ve gotten to 100 km an hour not 70.
Just contact the controller company. They should be able to walk you through it.
I would like to know where you currently feel you're "stuck at" with the bike? Thanks brother.
That motor is 2,880 watts of power max. Do you know even if the batteries are giving the full 72 volts at max power? Many things to test and check, but it just plainly appears to be grossly under powered on what was advertised.
So I have a Chinese electric bike in the Philippines. If you want it to hit 60mph you need to increase the voltage. Yes you can disconnect the governor and that will help a bit, but you wont jump 40% in speed. Chances are you have lead acid battery, so you would need to add another battery, and due to the size it most likely wont fit. The only option you will have is to build a custom lithium battery and that will probably cost you more than the bike. Probably not the news you wanted to hear.
Just my thoughts, "if you didn't hear this before"
I would check the voltage of the batteries to see what its putting out. To me it looks like there is more room for more batteries so they might have only gave you half the voltage.
I agree with others in using a older computer for the serial port. had the same kind of problems with milling machine i made. it didn't like the USB adapter. A older desk top computer helped but not a older laptop for some reason. I didn't notice if the power was on with the bike when you tried to connect. It might need that, USB especially on laptops don't provide a lot of amps.
I hope I helped if not well, good to know you not alone and we all here to support you on this project.
Good luck and keep us inform on your progress.
are you powering the controller while you're trying to connect?
If it looks too good it’s probably not good, what a letdown. I’ll stick to my vmax and magna.🏍👊
Ever tried to see if your ports are right on your laptop, you laptop might be the one not connecting not your bike , you have everything right for your bike but it looks like you could see if it's com4 or com2 to see if your laptop is on the right port
It might be in your port settings
Also you could probably use a Arduino base programming software to edit it out and then put your port on then upload it
Dude that was very cool the way you waved your hand awesome video
That's a nice pocket rocket you've got their.😂
Imagine hitting 40 in China’s rush hour traffic.. I can never.. would blow my head right off. You Chinese people are crazy
Danny Upsidedown party table There*
Dude! Thats not an electric sport bike, it's a Chinese Trojan horse computer hacking device! Check you're laptop. ;-)
Saw your problem...on the software try changing the com field to a different port to connect with the controller
All this is good to know. I worked for an MC dealer (not electric) that tried to help owners of Knockoff Chinese clones of ATV & dirt bike models even though they seemed to be direct competition. It was soon learned that the products were too cheap to work on. Too many things broke getting to the problem. At least the competition factor faded quick.
Sorry to see this happening to you hope you get it worked out.
I am thinking 1500 may be too low a price point for a 62 mph bike.
That is actually perfect to keep it a moped in Va. This is important because no registration, no inspection, and most importantly no stupid tax from the government to own it.
Just moved here and learned this.... I also see they plan to change that too, so if this dude sells it'll take it!
It's all fun and games until you get pulled over because your moped looks like a sport bike An officer no fucks given whoops out his ticket book.
Are you sure you are selecting the correct com port in the software?
Yessir! We tried it many times. He just messaged me and said he figured it out so I'll be troubleshooting soon!
@@TheInja Great. Still sucks you have to go through all of this.
Yeah this bike defenetly needs a double disc brake 😂😂😂
“Shout our to, you know who u are “😂😂😂 wtf how is that a shout out
What was I supposed to shout out, his personal Facebook page? haha
@@TheInja atleast his name? 😂
@@osecretiy9367 probably wants to stay anonymous.
Hey! I noticed you are running windows 10. When working with drivers that are unsigned or made by non-recognized companies, there is a lockout in windows. You have to do advanced startup options "Disable driver signature enforcement.”
This can be achieved with going to the start menu. power button (bringing up restart, shutdown...) then hold SHIFT + click restart. it should bring you to recovery after restart. Then go to trouble shoot, advanced options. Then finally "start up settings". From there you will restart to a new screen where option F7 allows your drivers!!!
You may have the drivers...but unless you've done this, it's locked out!
Good to know, but I also tried it on Windows 7 and same error. I think the cable may be the wrong one or not working right.
Try changing the baud rate on the VOTOL-EM-V3 software program. The serial chip needs to convert to CAN and CAN most common baud rates are 125 kbit/s (default CANopen) and 250 kbit/s (J1939). Not sure what the exact baud rate is needed to make the converter work, but the error your getting sounds like a baud rate mismatch.
It actually looks like it would be fairly quick, I mean 72 volts lithium ion battery and dual front Hydraulic brakes. It gotta be a limiter🤦🏾♂️
You keep saying you're not even getting half of the performance as advertised.. You're literally getting 70%, more than half.. 😂🤦♂️
I had the same issue. I took my Mars rover to a local place that deals with Apollo vehicles and they sorted it out.
Brother. One look at your controller tells me all I need to know. It should be twice as big. And 72 volts. Maybe 42 MPH. You need a minimum 120 volts. That's the battery and controller. You might be able to overvolt your current motor with upgraded controller and battery. Try it. Worst case you blow your motor and buy a new one. A crytalis will do the job.
Forget software and limiters. That's all BS. I went thru it myself.
120 volt controller/ 120 amp. true 5 to 7 kw motor. 120-volt battery. You will go 60 pluss and do wheelies. It's going to cost you another grand min. Period.
That error that you got, it must be something to do with the com port driver... try to find the device driver for that controller and install it in your laptop, disconnect then connect the wire (USB wire or what ever is connecting your motorcycle to your laptop), turn on your motorcycle, then wait if your laptop detects the motorcycle, then you can click the connect button on the software that you are using.. This might help a bit, or someone might get an idea out of this.
You can’t even drive these on the highway in Canada some highways are 110
Hey dude . I have a escooter in the fast . The top speed is 55kph - 60kph . And it will go faster like 75-80kph. when i plugged into the charger . It means the bike need more power . Like add more batteries and high amp batteries to get more power . Check your battery how high its voltage and amp
This is a great idea...I "overclocked" airsoft aegs this way changing a 8.4 volt nimh to a 10-12v lipo. The rof changes drastically. I cant see why thia wouldnt work. Please let me.know if you try this. I want an ebike and so far tamaha and zero are looking like the best options
Jason Sprayberry you can’t do that with an aeg your gonna fry everything and break the gearbox
@@revolutionn7958 his ebike is no gearbox bro .
@@jeremeisabelmalonda3785 both made in china lol. besides this is just an idea
Chinese lithium batteries like many Chinese metals and manufacturing have a much larger window of tolerance/flaws.
Could be like a toy car where you have to unscrew something for it to go faster
They are definitely worth it if you are shipped the correct bike, my brother just got an 8000w R3 model with a 72v40ah lithium battery from Wuxi Stanford in like 2 1/2 months, it's look turns heads, is whisper quiet and a blast to ride, got up to 40 at half throttle while it's only been ridden halfway down the street and back since it not registered, I personally ride an FZ07 so the lack of any torque on takeoff(feels like riding in 3rd gear) and noise feedback caught me off guard at first but at I'd buy one as a commuter as it is a quick nimble 200lb bike, and can easily overtake cars. The 8000w feels equivalent to a 150cc-250cc, Inja most likely got a 3000w that probably feels like a 50cc