#16 of 16: PAKISTAN: ORIGINS, IDENTITY, AND FUTURE
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2023
- Pervez Hoodbhoy in conversation with Shaheryar Azhar
-- The Two Nation Theory is dead
-- One Nation Theory - what’s that?
-- Six steps to recreating a viable Pakistan
-- Redefining national priorities
-- Acknowledgements
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
o Front cover endorsement by Noam Chomsky
o Back cover endorsements
o Acknowledgments
o About the author
o Foreword by Christophe Jaffrelot
o Why this Book?
o Charting the Labyrinth
- Myths of a nation’s origin
- Exclusivism as philosophy
- Was Partition accidental?
- The book’s expeditionary map (Parts I-V)
o Part One: Long Before The Two Nation Idea
1. Identity formation in medieval India
- The herd instinct
- India without nations
- The Sanskrit controversy
- Muslim invasions
- Mughal era purifiers of Islam
- Conclusion
2. The British reinvent India
- Colonialism quietly sneaks in
- The Great Mutiny - a watershed
- Demoralized Muslim ashrafiyya
- Exception: the United Provinces
- The Muslim predicament
- Modernity impacts Muslims
- Modernity impacts Hindus
- Ways begin to part
o Part Two: A Closer Look At Pakistan’s Three Founder-Heroes
3. Founder I: the lonely modernizer
- Early years
- It’s okay to eat mangos
- Metamorphosis to modernity
- Siding with the British
- An unabashed elitist
- The non-communal Sir Syed
- Sir Syed communalizes
- Sir Syed’s mixed legacy
4. Founder II: premier poet-preacher-politician
- Everyone loves Iqbal
- Biographical sketch
- Philosopher or just philosophical?
- Iqbal uses languages selectively
- Iqbal on faith versus reason
- Iqbal’s physics/math criticisms
- Iqbal’s “higher” communalism
- Iqbal on women
- Iqbal on theocracy
- Iqbal on blasphemy
- Iqbal and Sir Syed compared
5. Founder III: liberal-secular-visionary?
- Did Jinnah have a plan?
- Anticipating dependence
- Did Jinnah not want Pakistan?
- Jinnah - the man
- Did Jinnah want secularism?
- Jinnah fuses politics with religion
- Jinnah and the Islamic state
- Jinnah’s Shia problem
- A master tactician not strategist
6. Jinnah trounces his Muslim opponents
- Maududi - Jinnah’s nemesis
- Azad - the prescient cleric
- Bacha Khan - the peaceful Pathan
- Who won, who lost?
o Part Three: Postnatal Blues
7. Stubborn angularities I: Bengal
- A snapshot of history
- Mocking Bangla
- The road to separation
- Punjab still doesn’t want to know why
- Bangladesh overtakes Pakistan
- Final reflections
8. Stubborn angularities II: Balochistan
- A shotgun wedding
- Baloch identity emerges
- Changes since 1947
- Too rich to be left alone
- CPEC and Balochistan
- The secession question
- The way forward
o Part Four: Five Big Questions
9. Was Partition worth the price?
- The no-Pakistan option
- Socialist utopia rejected
- Mobilizing the Muslim masses
- The winners
- The losers
- The cobra effect
10. What is the ideology of Pakistan - and why does it matter?
- Ideology defined
- Hindutva ideology
- Pakistan ka matlab kya?
- The weaponization of ideology
- Resolving the ideology conundrum
11. Why couldn’t Pakistan become an Islamic state?
- Warmup: a Christian state
- Who speaks for Islam?
- Qur’an and Islamic state
- Islamic scholars on the Islamic state
- Model I: The Medina state
- Model II: Maudoodi’s Islamic state
- Model III: The Taliban state
- The caliphate’s undying appeal
- The ummah and pan-Islamism
- What created political Islam?
- What if Pakistan becomes an Islamic sharia state?
- Is a liberal sharia state possible?
12. Why is Pakistan a praetorian state?
- The Establishment defined
- Bankrupt political class
- A once apolitical army
- America’s junior partner
- Strong men make weak countries
- Wars of choice
- Cross-border jihad - a failed experiment
- Courting the blasphemy-busters
- India under martial law?
13. Identity crisis: I’m Pakistani but what am I?
- Inventing an ancient Pakistan
- Telling Hindu from Muslim
- State imposed identity
- Cultural orphans
- The first Pakistani
- Arab Wannabe Syndrome
- My name is Ertugrul
- Citizens and subjects
- Price of prejudice
- The overseas Pakistani
- Folks: here’s what I really am!
o Part Five: Looking Ahead
14. Three imminent physical perils
- Climate change
- Population bomb
- Nuclear war
- Prognosis up to 2047
15. The paths travelled post-1971
- Experiment One - Vengeance
- Experiment Two - Nizam-e-Mustafa
- Experiment Three - Enlightened moderation
- Experiment Four - Hybrid regime
- Why the experiments failed
16. Replacing the Two Nation Theory
- End legalized discrimination
- Spread the wealth
- Pakistan not Punjabistan
- Uncage the women
- Give skills don’t brainwash
- Cool down Kashmir
- Send army to the barracks
- Epilogue
o Index
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There is a serious shortage of people like Prof Hoodbhoy in every society. I love his passion for truth and human rights. We need more people like him everywhere.
Dear Pervez Hoodbhoy Sir I loved listing the conversation between you and Mr. Shaheryar Azar regarding your book Pakistan Origins Identity and Future I am Mesmerised . I am waiting the book to come in some audible like amazon etc, as much in habit of Listing theses days then reading if not then will buy a book to read.
What I feel after listing this talks of 16 chapters that.
Hoodbhoy Sir you have done the Ultimate duty towards your nation a Nuclear Physicist wrote a book of history as you said in your conversation if no one else doing this job let me do this before I Die .
By this book you tried to laid a foundation stone of a healthy society where wisdom grows in such society people like Great Rabindranath Tagore and the Enlighten classes are born where hate is defeated by love .
I am an Indian who highly appreciate your effort ,In fact its beyond words . I wish You a divine peace .
Thoroughly enjoyed the 16 part series. Both of you are brilliant, patriotic Pakistanis. God bless you. Pakistan needs you. Not sure if it deserves you. Best regards.
I don't know how brothers from the other side would be seeing it..
But my greatest respect for the professor and the anchor..
This was brilliantly presented. I don’t have enough words of appreciation for the quality of content in these 16 episodes. I bought this book and it was shipped to me but it was lost in the mail. But these 16 episodes have provided enough insight about this book. Thanks to both the gentlemen especially Pervez.
it was awonderful expeirence listening to the various conversations of Dr Shaheryar Azar and Dr Pervaz Hoodbhoy. Dr Azahar deserves appreciation for delving into the book, choosing nuggets and drawing out Dr Hoodbhoy to express the essence of his ideas.
it is for the people of Pakistan and its erudite wellwishers to review the past ,and write a new chapter , which will bring hope to the people of Pakistan and peace in the subcontinent.
Many 👏👏👏.to both.
This last of the discussions is perhaps the best! This part has solutions, that Pakistan needs to heed and follow! Particularly the words, "Un-cage the women." Even Saudi Arabia is on the way to great reforms under the MBS's rule. The religion, the way it is practiced in Pakistan, is hurting Pakistanis in a terrible way, as per Dr. Hoodbhoy...and this is seen as a statement of fact by all countries, to say the least...
Thanks Hoodbhoy and Shehryar for such beautiful thought provoking, disturbing yet necessary discussion on book. Enjoyed every episode. I love writing style of Hoodbhoy, however, Mr. Sheharyar did wonderful job; his questions, narration and ability to summarize the context made this journey so interesting to follow. Stay healthy. Khush rahen
A great contribution by Dr sahib
Anybody who needs to know what can correct the course of Pakistan needs this last chapter of this book or this video. If 10% of Pakistanis read this book and understand then I'm sure something good will happen to "Land of Pure". Thank you Pervez Bhai and Sheheryar Bhai. May Allah keep you in His protection.
Thanks for a great book Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy.
Thank you so much Dr Sahib for such an insightful book. My only hope is that many more Pakistanis read your book or at least watch this series of discussion - to learn, rather unlearn our fudged history…My best wishes for your health.🙏
Thank you so much sir for guiding our confused new generation for future pakistan.being a college student I admire you from my heart❤
A light in the dark , vision of your grandfather brotherhood of man ❤
Beautiful work only one person who can tell you the problems and give you a solution too.
Whatever the way, India was partitioned, it has done great Good for Bharat and Hindus, by dividing followers of the Ideology in three parts.
Chitta jeta bhoi sunya, Uchha jetha shir....
Thank you,professors for your pious and admirable efforts.Hope never dies
Thank you for sharing sir ,your thoughts, ❤❤
Sirs, Brave New Pakistan with lots of luck and will of Supreme almighty.
Dear hood boy I like your discussion , please note my remarks, religion n alcohol is nice if u consume in proper limit , other wise it will be like Pakistan
Thanks for sharing the Howard Zinn quote
Absolutely brilliant:)
Thank you both so much for these wonderful episodes. I watched all the 16 episodes and learned so much. Hope Pakistan will change course and become a prosperous all inclusive democratic country.
Pervez hoodbhoy is my role model❤
Thanks for sharing comants🤔 stay Blessing 😇
One Nation Theory will certainly inspire Pakistanis to flourish in near future.
The ship has sailed. Anglo American enterprise will not allow Pakistan to establish any meaningful peace within itself or with its 3 neighbours - India Iran and Afghanistan.
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Good...
4:37 Pakistan is already "one nation". No minorities are left.
By the rules of partition, Kashmir (the whole of it including POK) should be with India, READ HISTORY INSTEAD OF DISTORTING IT.
The only leg Pakistan's claim to J&K stands on are UN resolutions and THAT was not part of the rules of partition as also holding a plebiscite was not.
Kashmir has Muslims, Pandits and Buddhists (in Ladakh)
What an impressive analysis of Kashmir !!
Prof. Hoodbhoy says by the terms of partition, Kashmir must have been part of Pakistan while achnowledging it is multireligious . Then what terms of partitiin would entail Pakistan to have Kashmir.
If religion is the basis, why Bangladesh separated? You did not know how to keep your country intact and you want Kashmir??
Dream on more!!
Also Professor says Indians must recognize Kashmir problem!! Sir, It is a Pakistani problem and we in India have no problem with Kashmir. He also says treatment of Kashmiris is brutal; True !! Just talk to Kashmiri Hindus who were ethnically cleansed. Did this happen to Muslims in any part of India??
Also Professor Hoodbhoy rightly says about Iran's civilizatiinal values for its relative excellence in STEM. He is correct on this.
The trouble comes when you bring Islam. It is a disgrace that as a society, Pakistanis identify themselves with Arabs and Islam when , civilizatìonally, they belong to India. Professor says we have to see where we went wrong to correct it.
You cannot sir; you went wrong when you chose to follow Islam, in my view. Islam and science are poles apart. Among Muslims, Iranians are least Islamic and very open minded as a civilization which is what make them excel. This applies to Ahmediyas and In Indian context, Bohras who are very prosperous.
An open challenge : Please ask Bohras to come to Pakistan and, I assure you, they will NEVER. They know they will be massacred. They are proud and patriotic Indians.
WOW
SAW ALL 16 PARTS
MY SUGGESTION
FIRST THING FIRST
START FROM CHANGING THE NAME OF YOUR COUNTRY
CHANGE THE NAME OF YOUR COUNTRY
CHANGE THE NAME
AND THEN BUILD A ''NORMAL'' COUNTRY
THANK YOU.
❤
👍👍👍
Yes but one nation theory based on only sindhu civilization
Sir, what I may say, may be a gross simplification, but the power devolution that you suggested, may create more problems than solve them.
Like in the old USSR, the Glasnost and Perestroika policies caused devolution of power, which then caused the immediate collapse of the Union.
Pakistan may go that way.
Hoodbhoy
I am afraid, what he is saying is not sustainable. Pakistan will eventually balkanize if this is followed through; perhaps for the better?
We in India are very happy with partition. Good riddance 🙏
Can your give reference when muslim have not got full rights ?
Border ke us taraf ya to jabardast suljhe log hain ya fir dimag se paidal.....bhut contrast hai..
1. 2-Nation theory is a reality. 1400 years of India's history is the best example to prove this theory. Pak and India are living examples.
2. 2-nation theory or religiosity is not the reason why Pak ended up becoming a disaster; it is Islam that ruined Pak. Religiosity in India, made India make significant progress!
3. As usual, most of this discussion is based on distorted opinions of India.