I'm a 10NL player and I just have to say, this Kruzer guy is like an alien in his thought process, it's scary how high level he is. Ordinarily I find normal carrot corner videos hard to follow, but it's amazing the level Kruzer is on
The 2 pair heuristic is something other players also have made notice. The best explanation I have heard is: 1) Bottom 2 always raise because its vulnerable and unblocks TP, so gets a ton of value vs TPTK and overpairs. 2) Top 2 pair always raise because you have all other two pairs crushed and can play for all the chipys 3) Top and bottom, you call because you need some traps, block some of your opponents value (top pair), so your opponent is more likely to be bluffing, and this variant is less vulnerable than bottom 2.
I like this explanation from Uri Peleg: 1. Top 2pair is too strong, so raise. 2. Bottom 2pair unblocks all the TP calls, so raise. 3. Top & bottom pair is right in the middle, so trap.
The 65 dimes vs QQ hand, i never get folds in that spot either. Players call with any 10x and all over pair like always. So weird in a spot where they cant beat anything. Maybe timing tells? Its nuts though how under folded those spots are where i have gutter with back door FD and never get hands to fold out for 150bb or less.
The KK call on T857J is interesting. Is it plausible that the call is not at bad as it appears as a result of Villains flop and turn bet sizes. 25% flop 50% turn could leave us with a wider range than anticipated OTR, some of our value will have also raised on earlier streets. If our range consists of a larger portion of these 66,56s,67s we may have more bluff candidates than we realise. Where is the value Threshold OTR, do set jam pure? Wether right or wrong these considerations could have led villain to land on call. e.g. to much value either raised on earlier streets or doesn't go thin enough OTR and that sizing allowed a wider/weaker range to arrive OTR. Interesting none the less
Hi Carrot. Quick question - If you've mastered the game as much as you have, why do you focus on teaching it rather than playing and crushing it to make lots of money? Cheers.
‘Mastered’ is a pretty strong word! I know a lot more than I used to but I still learn stuff about poker every day. Teaching poker can also be lucrative and I enjoy the teaching, content creation and growing a business side of things a lot.
@peterjack1 There is a difference. Technically a business owner is self employed. Ask yourself this question. Can I have zero interaction with my business for 2 weeks and still have profit coming in? If the answer is no, then you are self employed. If the answer is yes, then you own a business. Think about a one man show tradesman.
9:21 dont solvers not bluff busted flush draws due to blockers and you would rather have your opponent holding flush draws when you bluff, thereby calling with the Ace of clubs not good?
@12:04 😂 Hilarious that this “crusher” doesn’t even know his own reasoning/heuristic for calling with top and bottom, while Pete hasn’t even heard of that fairly common solver heuristic lol. The real reason is why that’s more of a call than other two pairs is bc top and bottom gets countered harder on runouts where 2nd card pairs often leaving u with a devalued one pair when it happens; which is why solver doesn’t like to over invest and mostly mixes more calls with that specific two pair combo. Whereas, with top two when bottom card pairs u still beat and can get more value vs every other TP hand like AJ/KJ. And bottom pair is even to x/r better/higher EV bc it unblocks every TP combo it can get value from. I guess anyone (non top high level player) can open up a training site these days 🤷🏼♂️ All jokes aside, this was a really good video and that guy sounds really nice and humble. My favorite one to listen to so far.
Using theory to talk yourself into shove bluffing every river and then getting called light. I dunno man. Having a discussion about it is valuable though.
All those deep analysis are basically pointless. You see all your big wins are big value bets and all your big loses are the massive bluffs. And all thoses deep analysis ultimately comes down to : you should exploit massively in these games by bet MASSIVE with your value hand, by massive I mean as crazy as you can imagine. 10x pot ? Why not if your opponent calls with top pair. And NEVER bluff. Super exploitable? Sure, but you should generally avoid sitting down with people who are capable to exploit you in the first place.
I'm a 10NL player and I just have to say, this Kruzer guy is like an alien in his thought process, it's scary how high level he is. Ordinarily I find normal carrot corner videos hard to follow, but it's amazing the level Kruzer is on
I loved seeing a session where thr plays didn't workout. Great to see a good process making the right play and not caring so much about the result
Kruzer is the best pro you've had on imo. Keep it up guys!
The 2 pair heuristic is something other players also have made notice. The best explanation I have heard is:
1) Bottom 2 always raise because its vulnerable and unblocks TP, so gets a ton of value vs TPTK and overpairs.
2) Top 2 pair always raise because you have all other two pairs crushed and can play for all the chipys
3) Top and bottom, you call because you need some traps, block some of your opponents value (top pair), so your opponent is more likely to be bluffing, and this variant is less vulnerable than bottom 2.
I like this explanation from Uri Peleg:
1. Top 2pair is too strong, so raise.
2. Bottom 2pair unblocks all the TP calls, so raise.
3. Top & bottom pair is right in the middle, so trap.
Been watching you both separately for a while. Really enjoying the high-level analysis!
I think Kruzer was a good addition to the team.
Great to see strategy content from Carrot Tandler. Loved the mental game of Poker!
good to see that NL200 pro makes the same failed bluffs as I do
Love the video. Looking forward to the paid subscription service launching on April 22nd!
Thanks! I’m also very excited about the content that will be coming out from Kruzer and others.
Excellent analysis Pete, brought your A game!
Love it, another brilliant video. Cheers boys appreciate the content
"I would never bluff with the Kd"
"Woah he called with the Kd that's so bad"
The 65 dimes vs QQ hand, i never get folds in that spot either. Players call with any 10x and all over pair like always. So weird in a spot where they cant beat anything. Maybe timing tells? Its nuts though how under folded those spots are where i have gutter with back door FD and never get hands to fold out for 150bb or less.
The KK call on T857J is interesting. Is it plausible that the call is not at bad as it appears as a result of Villains flop and turn bet sizes.
25% flop 50% turn could leave us with a wider range than anticipated OTR, some of our value will have also raised on earlier streets. If our range consists of a larger portion of these 66,56s,67s we may have more bluff candidates than we realise.
Where is the value Threshold OTR, do set jam pure?
Wether right or wrong these considerations could have led villain to land on call. e.g. to much value either raised on earlier streets or doesn't go thin enough OTR and that sizing allowed a wider/weaker range to arrive OTR.
Interesting none the less
Tbh I think the guy called simply because : I HAS KINGS
Just way too much unnessacary isolated self high level analysis...
Wasn’t discussed I think but is jamming 66 on the turn not an option?
Hi Carrot. Quick question - If you've mastered the game as much as you have, why do you focus on teaching it rather than playing and crushing it to make lots of money? Cheers.
‘Mastered’ is a pretty strong word! I know a lot more than I used to but I still learn stuff about poker every day. Teaching poker can also be lucrative and I enjoy the teaching, content creation and growing a business side of things a lot.
Ie Teaching poker is scalable, playing poker is not.
Do you want to be self employed or own a business?
@peterjack1 There is a difference.
Technically a business owner is self employed.
Ask yourself this question. Can I have zero interaction with my business for 2 weeks and still have profit coming in?
If the answer is no, then you are self employed.
If the answer is yes, then you own a business.
Think about a one man show tradesman.
@@CarrotCornerPoker Thanks man, that was the answer I expected, and wanted. Good luck.
Why do golf and tennis pros have coaches?
Why don't their coaches just go pro and make money instead?
9:21 dont solvers not bluff busted flush draws due to blockers and you would rather have your opponent holding flush draws when you bluff, thereby calling with the Ace of clubs not good?
why does it matter to unblock folds of hands you beat on showdown anyway
WOOOOO CANT WAIT FOR 4/22!
@12:04 😂
Hilarious that this “crusher” doesn’t even know his own reasoning/heuristic for calling with top and bottom, while Pete hasn’t even heard of that fairly common solver heuristic lol. The real reason is why that’s more of a call than other two pairs is bc top and bottom gets countered harder on runouts where 2nd card pairs often leaving u with a devalued one pair when it happens; which is why solver doesn’t like to over invest and mostly mixes more calls with that specific two pair combo. Whereas, with top two when bottom card pairs u still beat and can get more value vs every other TP hand like AJ/KJ.
And bottom pair is even to x/r better/higher EV bc it unblocks every TP combo it can get value from.
I guess anyone (non top high level player) can open up a training site these days 🤷🏼♂️
All jokes aside, this was a really good video and that guy sounds really nice and humble. My favorite one to listen to so far.
Top and bottom 2p tarp more bc they get reversed on Mpaired runouts more.
Man, did you get a haircut with a lawnmower in the intro? 😂
Love the content as always tho❤
the correct answer was "weed wacker", but I will give you partial credit.
Using theory to talk yourself into shove bluffing every river and then getting called light. I dunno man. Having a discussion about it is valuable though.
All those deep analysis are basically pointless.
You see all your big wins are big value bets and all your big loses are the massive bluffs.
And all thoses deep analysis ultimately comes down to : you should exploit massively in these games by bet MASSIVE with your value hand, by massive I mean as crazy as you can imagine. 10x pot ? Why not if your opponent calls with top pair. And NEVER bluff.
Super exploitable? Sure, but you should generally avoid sitting down with people who are capable to exploit you in the first place.
Ugh... those captions...
66 are never a bluff in this 4 straight IMO
Because?
@@kezman82abecause ppl don't fold. Can you not see that all his wins are massive value bets and all his losses are massive failed bluffs
2pair heuristic, see comments
Another crusher who concentrates so much on other peoples bet sizes more than anything else :( Old school,, so forget the new school!! there ya go