MEGUIARS IRON REMOVING SPRAY CLAY VS MEGUIARS ULTIMATE ALL WHEEL CLEANER: IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE?
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- Опубликовано: 16 мар 2020
- MEGUIARS IRON REMOVING SPRAY CLAY VS MEGUIARS ULTIMATE ALL WHEEL CLEANER: IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE?
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Thanks Jimbo for doing this test. I like the Ultimate All Wheel Cleaner as well.
Thanks. I'm with you on your choice. I have used the all wheel cleaner twice before with great results and the price is right!
im just going to refill the iron remover clay lube with the ultimate wheel cleaner because i like the bottle
Lol
Lol ...me too!
talking with the local Megs rep to me, Iron Decon from them D1801, it likes to be incredibly ionized and finely sprayed. in a ZEP spray bottle it mists it out nicely and it covers well. instant sulfur reaction on wheels/tires/paint.
I like their Iron Decon, it is almost instant bleeding when it hits the contaminants. If I am grabbing a product to remove the iron particles off Walmart shelf, go for the ultimate all wheel cleaner
Hell yeah Jimbo,I needed to know the differences without getting in trouble for buying too many products lol great video thank you!
Good video comparison! Now I think, I'll be going with the Ultimate Wheel Cleaner.
Curious how it would perform after rinsing the panels free of product and iron, drying, then re-applying until they come clean
I did the exact same test and this video is 100% spot on.
The green bottle is for all the guys that said you couldn't use the all wheel cleaner, which is PH balanced and probably less harsh than dish soap. I used it to decontaminate before a paint correction.
Thanks Jimbo for another great video , we really appreciate it!
Ps maybe if you can do a comparison video of Gyeon Can Coat vs TLC V2 ?
Thanks 🙏
Ive all ways used the all wheel cleaner and its awesome ives used others as well but all wheel cleaner is the best for me great cleaning power takes off any nasty debris from the wheels
I use Adam's Iron Remover. For claying. I use Meguiar's Detailer's Professional's Choice Mirror Glaze Mild Clay along with Meguiar's Detailer's Professional's Choice Last Touch (not diluted).
I grabbed some today and I diluted 7 parts distilled water with 3 parts megs, and it still does the try. Saving money and still having a great product to work with.
Good bang for the buck at that dilution.
I don’t think I have the balls to use the wheel cleaner as a clay lube but I hope you do a review on the new product with clay. Thank you!
You’ve had one of those smart good edumactaion qwick mafs liaison’s
Thanks for the information, im going to give Meguiars a try!
Hi Jim,
Thanks for the video. Do you happen to know if they are both same PH level?
Could you do a review on the meguiars Waterless wheel and tire cleaner? Thanks keep up the great videos!
Thanks for bust8ngvthe myth. I appreciate it 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯
Did either one of these products stain the paint ? Can you make a video on how to use it them?
Would you be willing to make a video of the difference between this spray clay vs a clay mitt?
Also, love the quality of work. I come here frequently for the confirmation before I’m about to make a purchase to see how well it works and just the knowledge and practicality you speak to is great! Thanks!
Lol what
Thanks for the tip; tried the wheel cleaner with clay bar on my heavily rust spotted white paint and got good results. It also did better at removing road tar then whatever bug and tar product I had. I mean, rims are mostly all painted now anyway, right?
You should of done a clay bar test on both to really see what the difference is or if there is a difference.
If I paid $7-$8 a bottle I would love it also. Been using Griots Hd wheel cleaner for years.
Autoglym do the same with Magma Wheel Cleaner in a small weekender spray bottle and the same liquid in their bulk professional line but it's called liquid Clay.
Iron remover are the one thing I'm not really sure about. What do they do to paint? How often should you use them. Do you spray on and wipe off or rinse off? How long do you let them sit. Is hot rims comsidered an iron remover?
Try them in a pump sprayer and see if they still foam. I bet it’s just the nozzle that is making them foamy.
Boss Auto Detailing most likely has a foaming agent.
For me, Meguiar's iron decon D1801 💪💪💪
But for the "all wheel cleaner" smell remains the best! It doesn't have the big smell of other people's sewers !!
Clay lube, traditional clay bar or clay bar synthetic, where the 2 ?.
So in your opinion ultimate wheel cleaner can make clay lube too ?!
Thanks
great video and product comparison. all wheel cleaner or eagle one plastic black wheel cleaner way better and cheaper.b well Jimbo
I just looked at the safety datasheets of both products and the numbers for the active ingredient is similar. For Ultimate AWC 1-10% and for Iron-removing spray clay it's 5-10%. My guess is they use very similar formulation in both.
That being said, the absolute content of active ingredient is low compared to other iron removers (Sonax, IronX etc), which state >25%.
Hey Jimbo, Would you do any agitating after the spray if you don't use it as a clay bar lube. And I don't t think I'd want to clay with that either.
So are you using a clay bar with Meguiars Ultimate wheel cleaner as you would with the Iron Remover Spray Clay?
Hi Jimbo ,nice vid,great catch on re-branded bottle by Meg... but you have forgot to compare those for slickness,as Iron spray clay should be lubricant also .
I don't really think the intent of the product is a lube. I think it's just called "spray clay" as in a spray alternative to clay for removing fallout.
@@mrhonda1 No it is also clay lube, it supposed to do two steps in one. But you can also use it only as iron remover. Though it is pointless Megs has Iron Decon for that but only comes in gallon and it is also pricey, though not as pricey as Iron Removing Spray Clay.
@@wellwh0 right, you can use it as a clay lube, just like any iron remover. I just don't think any if them, including this one, was designed specifically to be a clay lube. If you notice "clay" is in parenthesis on the bottle indicating that the spray is the clay. I just think that Meguiar's over complicated the name on this one and should have just left it as iron remover.
@@mrhonda1 Don't know if other iron removers are slick enough!?
I don't like to risk, as clay lube I use Megs Last Touch 50:50 diluted. For Iron decontamination I use CarPro Iron X. Find it as most efficient for me.
EDIT: oh. okay it isn't even clay lube it supposed to replace clay lube (looked on their website)
Though they have now some stuff based on SiO2 that is detailer and clay lube so it confused me. They made pure mess with their offerings.
@@wellwh0 I've seen it done with others, even the Eagle One Black and Plasti Coat wheel cleaner. And I don't know if this Meguiar's is technically any more slick since it's not technically a clay lube. Meguiar's doesn't say it's a clay lube so I have no idea where people are getting that from other than being confused by the name. According to their site it "Works like a chemical clay dissolving embedded iron contamination & industrial fallout" which is why the put the word clay in parenthesis on the bottle. As for claying, I use a clay mitt or clay towel with a gallon of water and 2 ounces of Meguiar's Super Soap that they used to sell at Walmart. The combination is amazing.
Any idea how wheel cleaner would react on a the plastic parts of a Jeep Wrangler?
Jimbo, try the sonax wheel cleaner on paint next time???? Will it work as an iron remover on the paint???
i like the thickness of the spray clay and it doesnt dry out
I would still just use detail spray for lube so I don't have to go back and wash the panels off so the iron remover doesn't dry.
Thanks Jimbo! I wonder if the wheel cleaner and the gallon of iron decon from Meguiars is identical? D180. Thanks again
Probably
Turtle Wax used to have their Liquid Clay Bar as part of their Ice Line when it was first introduced. Great stuff and I still have a little lol. This stuff looks like an improved version. Amazon link shows other products but not this.
Eagle one triple action black & plasticoat. Best iron remover & cheap IMO. OR just use wheel acid on everything except glass.
I’ll pass on that whole concept of claying with an iron remover but thanks for the video
why optimum has been doing it with Ferrex for a while
I don't really think the intent of the product is a lube. I think it's just called "spray clay" as in a spray alternative to clay for removing fallout.
Just Me I actually tried this product and used a soapy mitt to remove the dirt. So you’re not really hurting the paint
I just don't want to have that funky shit on my hands
How are you finding this on Amazon? I was told by Meguiar's that it was only going to be available at auto parts stores and not online. I clicked your link to Amazon but it just took me to an Amazon search and the product was nowhere to be found. However, when I clicked on your link to the wheel cleaner it took me right to the product.
You should've tried claying both sides to see the difference maybe its a meguiars sales pitch to sell more...
I sure you know by now but the spray clay is only recommended to be used with synthetic clay pads. Normal clay pads disintegrate
Did you just say my nose is itching because we just did a bump? Lol
does the iron chemical fade out the plastic trim?
great video
I wonder if the Spray Clay has more surfactants to have more lubricity when using synthetic clay pads as to less surfactants offering less lubricity in All Wheel Cleaner?
So I'm guessing both bill not eat the clay like some car soap will? Or
This can be used as a clay mitt lube?
You don’t allow an acidic cleaner on glass as shown on your video??
You didnt test the lubrication between the two with a clay bar.
When you use clay, does it break down the clay material
I've had issues with using "cleaners" as clay lube breaking down the clay as I clayed.
Yes that happened to me today
Why the he'll would you use a cleaner with clay lol
@@curse6of6me6 Soap is a lubricant.... That's how it prevents scratches when you clean your vehicle... It was a common practice for a long time...
@@dozerboyd8784 I use soap. But it never breaks it down. ONR Is the go.
Personally I would rather do it in two different steps because I don’t want to marr the paint with the particles that come out with the iron remover I would rather use that first and rinse it off and then Clay as normal to reduce the contaminants on the paint when I am clay baring
Meguiar's Iron Decon is great stuff, but only comes in gallon and is too pricey, here in my place is even more pricey than CarPro Iron X.
This iron removing spray clay is way way too pricey.
Both do the same thing . I'll take the cheaper one. It make no difference. 👍
Ah crap I wish I saw this vid lol just bought the meguirers one 😑😑😑 jimbo do I use this after I wash truck ?
Should have rinsed both off then reapplied to see if either got it all or not.
The left side had way more purple to it. Hiw didnhe not see a difference?
Hi Jimbo Great video. Quick question: do you apply all wheel cleaner to wet paint when used as iron decon or do you wash and dry the paint prior to spray it ?
That's how I do it, I use it as part of my wash.
So this is a video comparing how the formula looks?
Thought I would find the effectiveness difference. Lol
I bought the Iron X cost me double and for less, than the Ultimate all wheel cleaner, does the same damn job. Buying more bottles of Ultimate all wheel cleaner.
so the spray clay is a claybar lubricate/iron remover. so i can bypass a different iron remover and use this with clay?
That’s how i understand it to be. Yes
My only thing with this being an iron remover and clay lubricant is that if its strong enough to remove iron fallout it's to strong to be used as a clay lubricant. Hence the 2-3 min dwell time.
@@Mr.Jones1983 I WAS THINKING SAME, MAY DETERIORATE THE CLAY, BUT I FORGOT ABOUT DWELL TIME, STILL THINKING MIGHT STLL BE A BIT TOO STRONG. HOPE JIMBO DOES A TUTORIAL SOON ON THE METHOD
Can't find the the iron remover detailer on amazon and your link doesn't work.
It’s not there yet. But it will be
How often do you recommend A.) Using iron remover and B.) Claying a vehicle?
Every time you clay and/or iron remover you need redo wax right?
Thanks for videos
Yes, you do need to redo wax as an iron remover & clay will definitely remove your protective layers.
Jimbo, go try sonax beast wheel cleaner..
Do you think this would be safe to use on my fiberglass boat prior to using rubbing compound?
Ya
Looks like Meguiars are FINALLY catching up to Bowden's Own. This is just a copy of Bowden's Three Way which has been out for quite a while now.
When I talked to the Meguiar’s reps at the World of wheels I asked if I could use it as a clay lube and I was told not to.
You need to give Iron Blaster from Malco a shot. It cost about the same as the Meguiar’s but much stronger. Strongest I have used. You can now buy it on Amazon.
What's up Pizza man!!!
PapaSmurf918 Hey Tacosmurf!!!
So I can use the wheel cleaner as a clay lube too, while removing metal contaminates? Thanks.
Yup
That shit can’t be good for your hands
Mario Guel Osorio it’s called gloves 🧤
Hi Jimbo!
In Australia we have a product called Three Way from Bowdens Own I've been using for a while and is absolutely awesome!
Iron remove, decon and clay at once!
Great video mate!
Rad! I’ve tried some of there stuff and have been impressed!
Im gonna try it. I use eclipse wheel cleaner from Repco on my wheels. Its the cheapest and awesome.
I tried a bit on a rust spot but was to worried to leave it on paint long enough, so it didn't work. But if the Meguiars wheel cleaner is safe maybe so is the eclipse.
4:30 - Akimbo iron removers.
Look up "Bowden's Own Three Way" they've been selling their iron removing clay lube for a while now in Australia. It's truly fantastic stuff, works extremely well. It also strips sealants very effectively.
+1 for Bowden's! 3 Way with the Claying Rubber is such a time saver.
Do you think this Meguiar's Iron remover could stain plastic trim? reason is because this liquid will run down towards the black plastic trim.
I think it will be ok
Thank you!
Everyone likes to judge and compare iron removers by how they “bleed” or turn purple. I’d like to see a head to head comparison of real world use, like single stage white paint with rail dust (those little rust blooms) or a wheel that turned ‘gold’ from a malfunctioning brake. Ignore the color of the cleaner and see what the actual result on the paintwork is.. how does it really Decon.
Thanks for the heads up on the product tho Jimbo!
Can the Iron Removing Spray Clay be used with synthetic clay?
Yes
If you have a motorcycle with spoke wheels the ultimate works amazing.
Clever marketing perhaps to get you to buy 2 products instead of one?, wasn’t any visible difference between the two there, reaction times etc, identical, I would like to have seen you using a clay bar on both sides to see if it reacted with the clay at all 🤔
Detailing products are like buying into the looks of the bottle like going to a liquor store labeling is the devil
Would you say any brand of wheel cleaner work as an iron remover?
No. Not any wheel cleaner
Which ones then
Not it has to say iron remover in it
How long do you let it dwell?
About 3 minutes
Is it o.k. if this runs onto plastic trim, glass, and headlights or should those areas be taped off.
I used the all wheel on headlights when doing my mother-in-law's car. It didn't do any damage that's showed up at the time. I don't know if it shortened the life span. Only real word comparison and a control would give an honest answer to that. But all wheel includes plastic coated wheels, so my guess is, it's probably safe
So I like you have been using the Meguiar's Ult wheel cleaner for a while now. And when MEG's finily put the Iron remover spray "clay" out, of course I had to try it. And here is my two cents.
The D2002 to me reacted quicker than the WC. Also a big difference between the two is the smell. The D2002 doesn't smell like some little ole lady is getting her hair frosted. Whereas the WC does. Also, I don't use the factory bottle with the WC. And when transferring the WC to another bottle it have a VERY strong sulfur odor.
So my pick is with the new D2002
theres no difference, theyre just trying to capitalize on ppl smart enough to use the wheel cleaner to decon paint
Long test: dish soap vs hand soap vs car soap.
Did you notice a difference in the lubricity of the Wheel Cleaner vs. the Spray Clay?
I get the neato factor that you could use the wc as a lube if you're out of lube or detail spray... But the price is wayy high. When you can dilute onr, ultima waterless wash+, technicians choice, and a million others for a clay lube for pennies, it doesn't make sense to me. Saving a step, therefore time, and money? Nah that's a tough sell. Again the high price would entice the user to use LESS product. When I can get a hundred 24oz bottles of clay lube out of a 15$ of waterless wash concentrate...i spray the crap out of the lube when claying and don't skip a beat.
Not the best comprehensive video review but hey, I give jimbo props for the content during the lock downs.
Ultimate Wheel = 8$ = 24 OZ
Iron Spray Clay = 20$ = 32 OZ
You can basically get 60 OZ of Ultimate Wheel Cleaner for 20$ price!
nailed it.
As someone who works with chemicals in a hospital lab, I'm a bit taken aback by the "review". While the reaction to iron particulates may be similar or downright the same, they most likely utilize the same ferrous metal removers as their other products so that would be. The part I was disappointed in was the fact you did not do a physical comparison of lubricity by touch or by clay bar. I would assume their "Iron Removing Spray Clay" would have some type of surfactants or chemical lubricants. You even pointed out how it appeared slightly runnier.
Could you comment on any other observations or did you not even thoroughly test it, just throw up a video for early clicks?
Ya just for early clicks I have no idea what I’m doing
@@autodetailingpodcast I'm not implying you don't know what you are doing, and getting "early clicks" prior to a full length video is becoming normal from what I've noticed. You have some great in depth videos. I was just a bit taken aback that you didn't even mention the actual feel of the product considering the primary function of it is lubrication (+Iron removing as a nice added function). I would have thought that would be one of the first things you mentioned in this quick "pre-video" prior to the full release.
Did you really make a video just to see color change? Not a professional but I would think it’s dilute Compare to the wheel cleaner and avoid abrasives since it claims you can use clay bar. I feel like you loss the reason on most of these products just as this one you didn’t clay it or see if it did leave any scratches. Take proper steps
$65 in Australia for the green bottle
Correct think I'll got the cheaper bottle
I’m sure people tell you this all the time but bro you use four times the amount of chemical that you need
yes, im def an over applier
hope u are well jimbo…..the only difference I see.... since the clay side is "runnier" is appears to have more lubricity than the ultimate wheel cleaner. maybe a follow up/test to ck. the idea of claying at the same time makes no sense. its like lets rub in the dissolving fallout as we clay and create more extensive polishing to remove the marring and scratches. NO THANK YOU.
be well - be safe - don't take this flu lightly please. best to u and your family/loved ones
LOL They pretty much put the wheel cleaner in the Green cool looking Clay bottle and charged 10.00 Dollars more...........................................
They coped the Bowdens own 3 way from Australia
What is the whole point if you don't show the part rising it off? Sorry this is the first time I dislike ur video, I just don't get what am I watching for last 6mins.
Legit first. No views lol.
Rad!