The Harsh Truths of "Care"
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- “It’s because I care about you.” Is this common statement love, or manipulation?
Arcane’s aired season is a great animated show (based on the League of Legends video game, and published on Netflix) which lives and dies by its strong characters and their relationships, all deep enough for a video essay analysis. These characters form sets of 2 over the season which discuss a deep and meaningful message about how we love others, how delicate the benefits of that care can be, and how it’s not always good to do what’s “best” for them; Vander to Vi, Vi to Powder, and Silco to Jinx. Vander teaches Vi the responsibility needed to love others, but in one mistake driven by his care for her, undoes every lesson, leading to how she makes mistakes with her sister Powder. She fights for a better future for Powder, but this raises a harsh truth; doing what’s best for someone, or trying harder than they asked for, won’t always have good results. And this influences her change into Jinx, who develops an odd relationship with Silco formed around a natural manipulation. Despite how unhealthy it looks, Silco and Jinx may represent how the most basic positive aspects of love and care can go horribly wrong. In today's video essay let’s break from anime a bit and analyze this topic that Netflix’s Arcane (the League of Legends TV show) develops with its fantastic characters, and discuss the effects it can have on us while we wait for season two.
Care Can Kill | An Arcane Video Essay
0:00 Introduction
2:15 Vander & Violet
15:08 Violet & Powder
24:01 Silco & Jinx
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"When she seems most happy is when she's just with her sister. Powder never asked for someone to fight for a better, brighter future for her; all she wanted was to be with the person she loved most." Also applicable to what happened between Nunally and Lelouch in Code Geass. Tragic.
"i'm doing what's best for both of us" is something i said back when i broke up with a girlfriend i had, none of us where ready for a serious relationship so i had to take the hardest step and let everything go... it hurts less as time goes
One of the worst times in my life was having to take a step like that, knowing that hurting someone would be better in the long run. It's a time where "the best" looks awful, but truly is for the best. A good point for the discussion!
@@ProfessorViral yeah, possibly the hardest lesson to learn, plans don't always work out
Can relate. Sometimes the hardest parts of life is putting down the emotional sick dog. You love the dog with all your heart but at a point the truth of the matter is impossible to ignore.
(The dog is the relationship not the partner)
I don't think Silco was purposefully using Jinx for his own goals since until she takes the gems, it appears that since act 1 she has only ever been a liability that he constantly covered and made excuses for because she reminds him of himself
the problem with silco is that he allowed a kid to help him in his revolution (tho that was probably the norm in zaun considering how bad everything was even before vanders death)
also fun detail jinx is the only one from zaun ato have guns in the show
so either she made them herself (and wasn't pressured to make more) or silco wasted a lot of money so she can have an upper hand over basicaly anyone in zaun
This. 👍👍✔✔
I feel like all of them love and care for Jinx/Powder they just show it in different ways and different times but they all are worried about her well being.
They all do in their own ways for sure. Part of the complication is how fractured Powder/Jinxs history of receiving care is because of that fact. She herself can't pin down what exactly love from someone looks like because she saw all different forms of it
Hearing you explain the series of events, I only just now realized that Vi's actions at the beginning directly mirror Vander's. Attack the upper city trying to gain something, fail, lose everything they worked for, gain more pressure upon the situation.
I don't think I ever noticed that Vi never called Powder as Jinx as adults! Probably because the one time she did things turned for the worse? Great video as always!
I didn't dive into it, but there's definitely an interesting aspect of that as well. To her, saying Jinx is the exact opposite of care, because of the time when she did. It would feel like she was actively trying to hurt her sister
Actually when questioned if he knew whose doing was it Vi called Powder's inventions Jinx'.
Caytlin never noticed that Jinx was Powder as she talked about them as separate beings.
For Vi Jinx was her mistake. She never should have called her Jinx, that's why they were separated, and everything bad happened because of it. While trying to fix her mistake she tries to fix Jinx and make her Powder again.
Care: their doomed if you do. Their doomed if you don't. But maybe they're a little less doomed if you Care and don't.
Have you ever seen "into the woods" (stage play)? There's this song where the baker after losing his wife contempates leaving his son and commiserates with his estranged supposedly dead father about why he left his family. It's the responsibility of caring for their children and taxi-ing them into the darkest parts of the woods. It's a great play that goes through all of those themes of raising a child.
Vander and Silko showing care has somethin wonderfully raw to it, they do not seem have a frame of reference on how to do so.
It's like we watch them as they gain it. We really see the moment Vander gains one, and only through knowing the opposite end of war. I love that it very much feels like he's someone who found his way through parenting, with that caring yet trusting style, as long as nothing goes wrong. It feels right to the situation
this video is so real especially caring but also respecting people's decisions, that's something my family doesn't understand
Thats where I really got the idea to start from. My mother has always been big on "unconditional love" with many conditions. She cares for an idea of people, not who they actually are
I think I have a better picture of the kind of mindset one has to have in order to effectively care for someone. Suddenly I have a lot more respect for my parents😅
Amazing video bro, I really appreciate the amount effort you put into every part of this channel!! Can't wait for the next one
Mine messed up in many ways, enough that I don't have respect for how they parented. But, I do recognize that its an awfully hard job, where what seems right can be wrong, where patience beyond what's reasonable for our world's constant tolls is required, and so much more. I know I'm not fit to be a parent myself until I can learn how to go above and beyond for someone like is required
God this is such a perfect analysis of the relationships between all these characters, but my faves will always be Jinx and Silco, and I think that the thing that is controversial about Jinx and Silco's father/daughter love is that Silco genuinely loved Jinx AND he wasn't abusive towards her. Now, their love wasn't the most healthy and both were terrible dependant of each other, but their love was sincere and caring.
Maybe is because in most media these days is so rare to see what Silco and Jinx had, when a villain claims to love somebody, the parent/most powerful figure is always manipulative and/or phisical/emotional abusive towars the child/the most submise of the pair, their love is always conditional. Take for example mother Gothel from Tangled, she claimed to love Rapunzel, but only if she stayed in the tower and do all Gothel asked her, and when Rapunzel did something wrong or show some small speck of self confidence, Gothel immediately gaslighted and make her feel guilty.
But I couldn't see any of that on Silco, he intimidated and threatened everybody but Jinx. He threated Marcus of killing his daugther if he failed him, didn't care of the death of one of his henchwoman's son why she was crying over his corpse. But he show how scared he was that Jinx could have died at the explosion at the bridge, he holded her with so much care, immediately looking for a doctor to save her.
And Jinx is not afraid of him, the one time he was angry and screaming at her, she kept smiling with bright eyes, not afraid that he could have slap her or hurt her in a phisical way.
Jinx was never afraid OF Silco, but afraid of making a mistake that could make him leave her like everybody else. Silco's love for Jinx was sincere, but he still raised her to be a killer, and didn't understand how unstable Jinx really was.
Something I keep seeing said in Arcane discussion is that Vander controlled the Undercity until he was out of the picture. That is very clearly not the case. All Vander had control of for certain was his own bar, and people respected that because his bar was the den of vice that they all used to unwind from the stress of living in the Undercity. Vander exemplifies a caretaker role, but he's a shit leader. He made a decision for the Undercity, and then he went back on that decision. He tried to avoid consequences of his own actions, and now the children he wanted to care for instead get to deal with those consequences. He was the one who drowned Silco, he was the one who stopped the movement, he was the one who both wanted to play parent and didn't stop his kids from thievery, and even encouraged it to a degree.
Vander looked like a good parent, but he wasn't a good parent. Vander had the image and affect of a good parent. Vander was in charge, had a business, had his daughters, even taught them some good life lessons, but at the end of the day Vander did all that at the cost of people who trusted him to be a good leader for a necessary rebellion. Who then went on to trust that he'd keep them safe. Who saw that he wouldn't be a leader they actually needed, creating the power vacuum that could be filled by a man who would go on to make every mistake he did but at least lead a successful revolution before he died.
It's clear that Vander wasn't directly in control of the undercity's workings, but I think is very fair to say that his influence went well beyond a single bar. Grayson makes it clear that without Vander, the balance of the undercity would be entirely thrown off, and only relents with the assurance that Benzo will be able to maintain that balance. Even if that's just the peace deal transferring to him, that goes a long way from what we see in the second act. That much change doesn't happen for no reason. How could he leave a power vacuum if he wasn't powerful?
I do want to be fair though, I'm not by any means saying he was correct in deciding to be subservient. Either way, there's a cost. They either pay upfront and fight, or pay over the long term and gain nothing. A revolution would at least offer the potential for something, and with him at the helm keeping it in check, it could have been much more healthy than Silco's completely utilitarian calculation style. However, I think it's easy to say "necessary revolution" without considering the costs. When he speaks to who you lose, it's a very true point. The most vulnerable who are already suffering in the undercity are only more liable to suffer during the revolution. What if none of them make it to see the benefits once it's done? I think calling it necessary get's a lot harder when you see orphans you created. That itself is a commentary on Vander; maybe he was too weak to have ever been in charge, and there I'll yield for certain, he wasn't as strong as he makes himself out to be. But, the point remains, there is a time and place for it, and he made the call that then wasn't the time, whether that was right or wrong. Maybe in 10 years it would have been more likely to succeed. Is 10 years of subjugation worth a better chance at freedom? I'm not sure, it's up to each situation. I am on the side of revolution, I only didn't discuss it here because I've been very much focused on that side of things in many recent videos, and didn't want to repeat the same topic with a new coat of paint.
@@ProfessorViral The power vacuum I am referring to is getting an entire revolutionary movement prepared to engage in violence together, getting it into gear and then abandoning the movement. When we see similar in real life we almost always immediately see the Vander equivalent get shot, only to be replaced with anyone who will take it for themselves. You can't become a leader and then just walk away from that, you will create people who will want a leader and who will begin to justify their actions under the idea that they should have a strong leader. We see this in Vander's own arc, what with Sevika basically existing as a character who's entire concept is "I gave my all to a leader who could get shit done and then he decided he'd rather play family in the world he made worse"
I’ve started binging a lot of your content. I love it so much. I really like introspection and asking big questions and listening to other peoples thoughts really help center my own. Also I know you didn’t mention it in this video but my favorite anime is Durarara, and I just feel like no one talks about it, so I was very shocked when you brought it up even briefly in your videos that in itself made me happy, thank you
In act 2&3 Silco's and Vi's care for Powder was almost the same.
Silco never calls Powder Powder and incoureges to remove that part of herself all together. Silco loves Jinx and his care is for Jinx.
While Vi never calls her Jinx. She is afraid of Jinx even and wants to forget Jinx part of her sister all together and make her good old Powder again. Vi loves and cares for Powder and not Jinx. And it is really sad to think that at the end of the day noone loved Jinx for herself and truly accepted her.
It's a good point that I missed due to how I was separating and framing the topic. It's very fair to examine it as Silco also caring for an idea he has of her, not fully her. I think my point of him accepting the negative traits should have been more reframed as that; embracing the opposite of what Vi wanted to. A very good point! His love and care still had genuine workings, but the end goal was not for her as herself
I’d argue that ekko was probably the only one to see jinx for who she was- both in present and past; something which I think is encapsulated by their fight together - how well they knew each others styles, and ultimately ekko beating jinx.
And I don’t think that’s a mistake - I believe he’s also the only one to process the changes of the underground in the most healthiest way (making a mural of rememberence -with powder as a child, since she was lost too, developing a small group to fight against the none sense, and so on). And if anything, that might speak more about learning to how care; since ekko is the only one who challenged jinx, but let her make her own decisions, and although he didn’t agree with them, he understood them and challenged them in the moment - leading to an awesome scene or two, and some character development imo 🤙🏾 excuse the long read
@Mickie2089 only idiots complain about paragraphs, not being able to read is sad 😔
But Silco first felt love for Powder. He doesn't reject or scream at Powder for being Powder, for not meeting his expectations. He offers Jinx as a strength to her weakness, just like he rejected his own weakness.
Vi rejected Powder for being Jinx. Silco adopted Powder and embraced the Jinx part of her and saw it as her potential to evolve.
Also in fact, he noticed Powder's natural affinity for guns and projectiles and technology, while with VI she was forced for meele combat and criticised for failing it by her "siblings"
@@meiru2453 but I dont think Vi hated Jinx. She felt responsible for creating her and making Jinx Powder was like redeeming her mistakes. But Vi was terrified of Jinx.
While Silco rejected Jinx' Poder part because it reminded him his 'week self'. And in a way Silco projected his insecurities into her and was forcing to act upon them.
It is right that Vi acted more drastically. But whole choosing to be Jinx or Powder is wrong in itself and Vi and Silco both pushed her into it
in short, its complicated. How do you guide others on a path that neither them or you, know is the right one? Vi tried to focus on the future, and later the past, but Silco paid attention to the present. You could say Silco had the best success about holding onto Jinx, but anyone could have seen it wasn't exactly a healthy relationship. And Vi failed because she ignored the present (more by accident than on purpose), but she wanted to see Jinx in a better place. I propose, you need all 3, but it is a very delicate balance, because if you swing just a tiny bit too much one way, you will have the history repeating itself all over again
Great video. I’m going through a lot and your words really helped
this has to be one of the most truthful and important videos on the internet
That was a great video. I hope you do more arcane in the future
This was an incredibly lucid and compassionate idea of how care can be complex and how it can go awry with Arcane being an excellent example. But there was one thing left untouched that is gaslighting that arises from domestic abusers that is claimed to be care, but is a dark foil of it. I figured it would be a bit too dark, so I think it's intentional, which makes you smart.
I really liked this analysis of how care can have a negative perspective, as happened in the first three episodes of the show.
I'm a roleplayer and my favorite thing to mess around about on discord with characters is there's two characters where one seems objectively worse but can be seen in other ways seen as subjectively kinder like if there was some great need for a sacrifice and the parent had to kill their own child, but that could be seen as cruel like forgetting about that special bond with your child that should subjectively be more special to you like you could be seen as some for the greater good robot when it wasn't something you were ready to plan to do you just put aside your personal feelings for the community (think the last of us) And care can get tricky like my parents can feel over protective to me and i've always been homeschooled (which started off as being the schools problem but that's another topic) i'm 18 and i've never been able to take a walk around the neighbourhood by myself or trick or treat like i knew other kids did and had my relatives over blow things like i'm some Repunzel type that's locked away and can never do anything cool, i've never had real in person friends during my still ongoing teenage years to go to the mall with or had prom or got to try out for school plays and i got upset kind of recently that my grandma had to go with me when my cousin offered this mall trip with friends like it was down right embarrassing when staying at my grandparents house and being on that call with my cousin that kind of tone she had without going into things like 'it'd be cool if you joined us but if your dad says it's okay you know..' like having to just be babysat or not go if my grandma's body couldn't take it and disappoint my cousin, even if that wasn't the safest town i remember accidentally breaking an ornament and freaking out only for the guy working there cleaning it up saying it was a-okay like I guess i can kind of feel repunzeled from the world and was still ordered to stay close to my grandma at all times like i was afraid of getting in trouble if i stepped away from her when i'm 18 and i'm pretty sure a group of teenagers could protect me if shit went down more than my grandma unless the logics my grandma would want to make sure i was okay more than some random teens with my cousin
What you've asked in the description is a great question.
I'm surprised those first lines actually get seen, it's actually really helpful to know they do!
This video about how care can go wrong and Schnee's video about moral ambiguous really has shown how messy and gray being the good guy and doing the right thing can be when people strive for perfection in an imperfect world with limited resources
Fire video topic. love your ways of wording and philosophical view on very interesting topics
p.s. this video is exactly the reason why you cannot rely on anyone but yourself
Thank you for the nice words! While I do agree that self reliance is important, I wouldn't stress it as the only way. It very much was to me a child, and it's left me with a lot of issues about getting help. I'd probably be at more of my goals already if I let other assist, truth be told
@@ProfessorViral i agree it can be helpful but i dont like the idea that my personal situation depends on what someone else controls it to be. Like in a relationship, i qouodnt like the idea of needing someone else just to feel okay, like if theyre gone id feel sad or just generally low. As soon as the other person figures out that you need them, they almost insantly reaort to selfish desires. Just in my case :)
Communication ? That life and over is very messy.
It is a shame how many issues between people come down to "its very hard to communicate"
@@ProfessorViral true. but my issues are communicating easily but no one wants to hear/learn
Continue doing your work, my respect 👏👌💯⭐🔥
Thank you, the support means so much as I do! 💙
Great video honesty it surprises me how you can just throw out these bangers one after the other.
Edit: fixed a mistake or two.
It was never an issue of Vi not "accepting" who Powder was in Act 2. Vi is the only one in the entire series, including Powder herself, that continually reinforced the notion that Powder was strong enough to be her own person and didn't need to fall back on what others wanted her to be. The only things Vi didn't "accept" was that her sister was murdering innocent people and that Powder's actions were sending her into a self destructive spiral that was going to get her killed. Which considering Powder ended up committing a nearly successful murder/suicide, Vi was right to push back on that. It's just a near decade of Silco's cruelty, paranoia, gaslighting and manipulation coupled with Powder's own mental struggles was far to much for Vi to break through in so little time.
This is all quite fair. I think I should have framed Vi's section more like Vander's; a success, except for one mistake in an intense moment which undid all the good, when she first and once called her Jinx. The idea of past and future strictly was a bit to narrow to look at it entirely properly, and I appreciate the honesty of holding me to a higher standard with criticism, truly.
However, I think the point still stands that the way forward was not to try and make Jinx go back, as she had resistance to that and states clearly at the end she wanted to be accepted as someone new, but rather to accept what had changed and move forward from there, which was her only other real mistake in the second section of her story. I think the awful ending would have been avoided if she decided on moving forward; the way to undo the manipulation from Silco isn't to look to the past
It's interesting that I'm coming across this video now (9-months after it came out), the reason being a family friend has had a rough time in the last 9-months, having lost her husband and is now the sole provider and carer for their two kids.
The biggest problem is that her kids aren't young, one is 17 and the other is 13 I think but they have no life skills because she does everything for them. In her mind she is caring for them, she loves them so much but all any of us from the outside can see is an almost 18-year-old who doesn't know how to cook for themselves, do laundry, fill out documents.
Now being the sole provider and carer, she's overwhelmed because she can't be everywhere at once, her kids should be helping, especially because she is in the process of joining the workforce for the first time in over 2 decades, yet, she still hasn't gotten them to help with any chores.
While I want to blame the teens and to some extent I can because they have well behaved friends who are excellent examples, so they know that how they live is pretty comfy - it's my family friends fault for training them this way and refusing to be firm even now.
She thinks that she is caring for them but in reality she is setting them up for failure in life.
I'm glad you used Arcane to explore such a great topic. I'm a Christian, which might sound weird especially because I'm watching philosophy stuff, but even though I technically have "The" answers in the bible I still deeply appreciate this content. Great stuff. 👍
Where did you get the idea that philosophy stuff was odd for a Christian to consume. The early church fathers were often debating with the hellenic philosophers of their day. The Bible doesn't have all the answers to every question in the world because it was not compiled for that purpose. And while it does contain some of the most important wisdom this world has to offer it requires the discernment to truly understand. Philosophy is valuable in that regard.
Another arcane vid let's goooooo
I'm glad I finally watched it, the series had a lot to dig into!
@@ProfessorViral loving your takes so far
Interesting video topic.
Thank you! I appreciate all the support on each video : )
Yay new Vid! Lesss gooo! 😈
Thank you for the support!
"I just don't want you to get into trouble."
People aren't taught to love they're taught to manipulate, control, it takes years of self reparenting to learn what is actually love & loving and at first it's strange, awkward, whlie the person strives forever to give up control & manipulation they've done to others.
that's one of the areas I find the most pain in as a human being. We are constantly dealing with initial conditions that we have no say in, most notably our parents and what we learned from them. And, there is no way to change it but committing to doing so, which is exhaustive and lengthy
I think I'm starting to love my mom more with this video.
YOOO is this the first Video about Arcane ? Ive lost it bro
Another video 🥳
Thanks!
Should I choose the people who accept me for who I am or the people trying to change me into someone better .....who truly cares about me ??
I'm not sure. The answer is likely in between as a case by case basis. Why are they chosing to accept you or to try and better you? The why may be the answer
@@ProfessorViral interesting.. So intention is key... thanks ....
@@lazarus-374I find that those who insist on changing you don't truly love you. They might love something, but it isn't really you. When one is loved and accepted in their totality, good and bad, the foundation for them to change themself is laid and it will come naturally. Though I suppose it depends on what one needs, someone changing you can be good if you agree with the changes are necessary and with their methods, but such harmony is rare I think.
both. both is good
To me, at least, the problem with your theory is that it makes love too complicated; care becomes almost unachievable to fallible humans. I think you incorporate too much circumstance into your idea of care, and you leave out (mostly, not completely) the reasons why people want care at all. It's not just 'to fill the holes we have', it's a deeper need that connects us to others in a way that gregarious species have, something isolationist ones like felines don't. There's something in us that thrives only through the other, something that withers and dies without them. To me 'care' is what happens when we find people with good intentions to bond with; and the problems you mention with 'care' come from a lack of understanding the consequences of particular actions (i.e., they're more of a problem with causality, with the fact that all causes have multiple, nay infinite effects both good and bad) than from the nature of 'care' itself. You're more worried with its efficiency than with its nature.
I think people put too much value in the abstracts, "love" and "care" are by nature volatile because their meaning can never be truly translated from sender to receiver. That's why in some way there needs to be a contract, a visible or invisible agreement to terms that become mutually beneficial. That's not to say, however, that the contract itself is in any way discrediting the abstract. It's quite the opposite, despite what people might say. You are taking those feelings and making it relatable, understandable. You bring them into reality in a tangible way that both parties can understand without excess thought and worry.
I thoroughly enjoyed silcos and jinxes relationship. Made me cry and felt thoroughly heart warmed.
Please review Castlevania. I heard it's deep.
I have a friend who wanted to watch it, so it may pop up sometime
@@ProfessorViral Thank you.
You look like you could be related to Brandon Buckingham
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what music did you use for the vander and vi segment, it sounds nice and calm :3
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😂 😂 😂 people needs to listen , Arjona. On his song he states, the best friend that you have. Is the the one that doesn't help you.
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