Dr Strangelove - Mandrake and Ripper
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- Опубликовано: 31 янв 2012
- The plotting, dialogue, and performances in Dr. Strangelove are so extraordinary that we may overlook other aspects of filmmaking. Note how camera angles, lighting, pictorial composition, soundtrack and quality, and cuts control our response to this crucial scene.
I love the little note of hysteria that creeps into Mandrake's voice when he realises Ripper is mad.
Or as the president puts it: "a little funny in the head."
@@virtual-viking So many gems. An American friend is always saying: 'I won't have fighting in the war room'.
Ripper is the most sane person in the movie. If you really understood the way commie operates, and his methods of war, you'd drop a nuke on them too. Unfortunately they blend in with society in order to corrupt it, and poison it from within. They poison the air, water and food, and insist on periodic injections of poison from birth. The kingpins rarely gather in one place.
@@praetoriandorn3154 Well, Ripper is sane next toward Praetorian Dorn.
@@praetoriandorn3154 Proud commie here. Not to worry. I do my "corrupting" and "poisoning" of society out in the open.
Sterling Hayden's performance in this scene should be mandatory viewing for all serious cigar smokers. He handled and smoked that thing like a PRO!
Took him 2 days to film.. Kubrick finally gave him some brandi to get the scene right.
@@ninjavigilante5311 I would have thought that he would of had some Grain Alcohol and Rainwater to get into character...
@@AbeTheSigma007 Sterling was already retired when Kubricks pulled him in to this film, he had trouble performing at first, then he tried it with whiskey the second day and this was the result.
@@jagheterhopp no kidding? As Columbo said, you learn something new everyday...
@@AbeTheSigma007 there is an interview with him talking about the experience on set.
The way Kubrick lit the scenes in this movie were remarkable.
A perfectly well rounded film
And the low camera angle on General Ripper
I've always liked the way Ripper's eyes have little pinpoints of light in them, as if he was possessed.
Lit scenes in all his movies. He did that batter than anyone. This one is perfection as you’ve pointed out
@@JohnHondo11997 I'd argue that early Scott brothers had their fair share of creative lighting, but sure, Kubrick was the master.
Just look at Barry Lyndon... entire movie was filmed using only natural light... every scene set is like a painting from that era.
Most problems and discussions are solved by uncovering a .45 in your desk...
Ricardo Ibarra And the rest by the .30 caliber machine gun in your golf club bag.
yes and im sure the police wont have anything to say after you 'uncovered your gunz'. lol no the best way to go about doing that is by becoming a (dirty) cop. then you will do this and you will be automatically believed. you could probably beat a guy with your gun and you will be automatically believed and wont be charged at all. you just say the other guy was making threats and that you felt threatened. just make sure the other guy is a civilian and not particularly rich. long process but that is the way to go lol...hey what you only need about 6 months in any police academy of your choosing, and voila! license to kill/intimidate/beat people up.
Management 101.
.45 ACP
It makes people very cooperative.
Sterling Hayden was a superb actor. Not taking anything away from Sellers' brilliance in this scene, but Hayden just gives it everything in this portrayal. No eye-popping, no hysteria, but an absolutely convincing, and very dangerous, madman.
My friend this is 1 classic of a never should be remade by today's woke occultist politically Dylan macadamia Bud light crowd Hollywood do not remake Noah reboot it was good like it was it will there are some things you don't f*** with stand on its own 🤣
@@user-Ados-amerikaman hit all schizo checkmarks in one swing
@@user-Ados-amerika Ripper would agree with every word of that, and it's underlying premise.
Mandrake is like montgomery vs ripper as patton an eccentric vs a psychotic. Sellers also plays psychotic strangelove so he is not underplaying eccentric mandrake.
He wasn't even mad. He was unironically right.
This scene right here is one of the great moments in cinema.
I definitely agree with that statement... I can dismiss the entire movie just for this scene alone. It’s the sweet spot...
So true.
No one smokes a cigar more emphatically than General Jack D. Ripper.
When he goes into "our precious bodily fluids" I start giggling hysterically. It never fails.
Thing of mandatory vaccination.....
Your next step should be Alex Jones.
@@robertb.3651 that's the way your haedcore commie works!
@@robertb.3651 I’ve done some reading on a lot of these weirdo militias have been popping up over the last decade. They all have a rule that a man isn’t allowed to choke them chicken unless he is within certain proximity to a woman because “we must preserve our bodily fluids.” Life imitates art.
He is right!
“…while we’re chatting here so enjoyably…” I love the deadpan delivery of this line and the fact that Mandrake just asked Ripper if he brandished his pistol as a threat 😅
“Do I take it sir, you are threatening a brother officer with a hand gun?“ Classic British understatement! 😄😄
The angle shot for this end speech by Ripper, coupled with his voice and that fucking cigar, and being shot in black n white, is truthfully one of the most outstanding moments of cinema history.
"...our precious bodily fluids". What a great line!
I was eight years old seeing this movie with my parents in '64. The adult themes went (woosh!) way over my little head at the time but the whole 'fluid' thing lodged in memory. I spent the next couple of decades figuring out just what Gen. Ripper was talking about. I think it was at the height of the Cold War, in '87 or so, when it all came into sharper focus. I only recently, 2016, purchased the movie so I can watch it at a whim.
If only he had made himself a tinfoil hat, all of this could have been avoided.
"Body fluids (?)"
Who knew that the aluminum industry were communists?
@@TralfazConstruction 1987 wasn't the height of the Cold War. It was the early '60s, when this movie was made.
Mandrake is the most English character in cinema history
he's the film's hero
@@patriceaqa288 Probably the only sane major character!
I don't know. Terry-Thomas was certainly up there. Ronald Colman and John Gielgud, too ("I'll alert the media!" in "Arthur.") Alec Guinness too. Don't forget "City Wolf" in "Swing-Shift Cinderella," though it's an impression of Colman.
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Rivaled only by Jimmy in Hardcore Henry.
Peter sellers did the best Englishman, American president, and a natzi scientist all in 1 movie 😊
“I only ever pressed a button in my old spitfire.” 🤣🤣🤣
Note how the scene is done in a long take up until the 3:09 mark. What is called a master shot. Then when Sellers asks for the code, Kubrick cuts to a low angle close up of Hayden with the cigar and smoke coming out of his mouth. He then cuts to an insert shot as Ripper uncovers the handgun. Very adroit blocking and cutting to bring out the meaning of the scene and the shift in power between the two men based on Hayden's mental state. Kubrick's best film.
I thought the same thing. A frigging 3 minute shot and the camera hardly moved.
When the long take wide shot finally ends, a jolting cut to extreme low level closeup of Ripper, imo one of very best cuts in cinema history featuring a dialogue scene. Kubrick repeated that camera angle on Nicholson in The Shining, when Nicholson is trying to talk Shelly Duvall into unlocking him from the food storage room....POV had camera at floor level. And yet again on Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket inside the barracks as Ermey screams at marine recruit.
Nice explanation....gv me yuor mail id.
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@@Carl-LaFong1618 - It didn't move at all. Totally stationary.
@@Woozler554 It seems to be moving slightly; maybe it's due to the transfer to video.
2:00 The EXACT moment when the penny drops for Mandrake. From there on in, he knows he's dealing with a madman.
I love this moment so much. I'm also fascinated by Kubrick's choice of using this take. The way Sellers sort of huffs and clears his throat just before that line doesn't seem...I won't say it seems unintentional, but it's like he's working the line and took an acting pause. Am I reading too much into it? It's perfect for the moment, but I'm not sure he intended it to be.
@@BaileysMariner I don't think you're reading too much into it. It being an unintentional moment fits Kubrick's M.O. for other parts of this movie as well. You may have heard the story of George C. Scott insisting that he play his role as General Buck Turgidson more subdued, so Kubrick tricked him by convincing him to do the crazy, over-the-top take as a warmup before doing the real one. Essentially, George C. Scott's entire performance in this film is unintentional. Excellent, but unintentional.
Yep I love that moment also how it dawns on him. 'Something dreadfully wrong somewhere'. 😂
"Grain alcohol & Rainwater." Such a great line by itself.
I've just bought the Blu Ray version, with great extras. Sterling Hayden was persuaded to come out of retirement for this role. Great for us serious cinema fans. I always remember him for his psycho neurotic roles, in post war Noir films . He always came across as dangerous and scary--like here. Maybe that's why Kubrick chose him--great casting. Apparently, he and Seller's couldn't maintain a straight face for long, and had long periods of hysteria, making these scenes together--great to know..
Great. I think one of his best performances is in Robert Altman's "The Long Goodbye," a great under-appreciated film.
@@bernardwelt Great movie...
48 takes.
@@bernardwelt Chandler?
Kubrick used Hayden in an earlier movie about the racetrack robbery so Sterling trusted Stanley totally.
Sterling Hayden was brilliant in this role !
Absolutely amazing. Whatever else went on on that set, everyone in the whole film is kind of incredible. But he summoned up something very rare.
Many!!! years ago..I met a friend of my mothers..a beautiful redhead! She was really luvly...she had dated Sterling hayden....said he was a good guy,,,,i dug her!~ she was older but I was into her! lol...
Sterling Hayden also played - very convincingly - the corrupt Police Captain, McCluskey, in Godfather 1.
Yes he was. And he was a warrior in his own right in real life. A hero.
How about Peter in all his roles?
It’s okay, Mandrake, I've frisked Michael Corleone. He's clean. I've frisked thousands of young punks.
Try the veal... it's the best in the city!
@@joshuafriedman674 I'll have it.
Hey, listen, I want somebody good, and I mean very good, to plant that gun. I don't want my brother coming out of that bathroom with just his dick in his hands, alright?
Except you forgot to frisk the toilet tank, dumb ass.
@@joshuafriedman674 You read my mind . LOL
"IT TURNS THE FRIGGIN FROGS GAY!"
Alex Jones is just a reincarnation of General Ripper
I showed a bunch of my friends this movie and told them it was a drama. Best thing I've ever done.
Sterling Hayden dismissed most of the films he made. The ones he considered best were this film, 'The Killing,' 'Johnny Guitar,' and 'The Asphalt Jungle.' He once said that everything he did after Strangelove was just to earn money so he could take time off to sail and write. Still, he was perfectly cast in 'The Godfather' and 'Winter Kills.'
I read many years ago that he ended up living on a riverboat on the banks of the Seine River in Paris.
Asphalt jungle 🍺🏆
He almost did “Jaws” so I’ve heard.
@@reving19 that's true but the IRA was preventing him to come into the country to film it
All films were for money, he went into modeling first to pay for his Schooner but then walked out with a 9 month contract with Paramount, the photographer said. "Like a tall blonde Viking god."
Sterling Hayden plays Ripper wonderfully. We see his character slowly but inexorably changing from a calculating military man into a stark raving lunatic. All without even raising his voice a single decibel. On the other hand Gorge C. Scott had no idea how over the top his performance was because Kubrick kept asking him to take it up a notch higher, and then higher yet again. It wasn't until the final product did he see just what Kubrick had him do. And, prior to this Scott had been for the most part a cool calculating character in most his pictures.
That has been my favourite movie scene for the past 50 years.
My god Mandrake is just brilliant :') "Do I take it your threatening a brother officer with a gun"
Total commitment
There's such gravity to that phrase and the way he says it.
The truly special thing about this film is that it's all true. Exaggerated, but entirely true: human society functions not because of laws, or moral principles, but because sane people keep the insane ones under control; good people keep the evil people in check; competent people compensate for other's incompetence; when they fail to do so, things fall apart immediately.
Today, I'm a little concerned that the crux or your ever so eloquent discussion is in dire jeopardy!
“If our fellows enter Russian radar cover in about 20 minutes dropping all their stuff it’ll cause a bit of a stink, what” 😂
There are so many great lines in this movie, but that is classic.. "It'll cause a bit of a stink.." 😂 😂 😂 😂
“I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed”, “why, you don’t think I’d go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?”, “Mr. President, you’ll find our Premier is a man of the people, but he is also a man”
A bit of stink - unique way to call a nuclear armageddon lol
Slight understatement there😂
I can almost smell the cigar smoke
You had to live during the Cold War to comprehend how terrifying this scene was. "After all we don't want to start a nuclear war unless we really have to?." is one of my favourite lines 😍 ❤️ of pages 👍 👌 💛 😙 🥰 ☺️ of this 🏆 wonderful script. Love ❤️ it
Agree. Love the way Sellers delivers it.
Fast forward to 2021 and people are just as insane
Superb film.
Ripper is my film alter ego, love the character construction here and the way the cigar smoking aspect is filmed specifically. Kubrick was an astounding filmmaker.
He inspired me to hate communism😄
Not only one of the best of Kubrick's amazing films, "Dr. Strangelove" offers us brilliant directing/casting, biting satire, an anti-war anthem, a send-up of the cold war's insane principle of "mutually assured destruction," and career-defining performances by Peter Sellers, George C. Scott, Sterling Hayden, and last-but-not-least Slim Pickens.
Classic cinema in every positive sense of that term.
How does Kubrick dramatize the absurdity of Cold War logic in this scene?
MAD seems to have worked.
@@sharoonjaved Rich people lying about communism to poor people, driving them insane with fear and whipping them into genocidal fervour, all to prevent the upper class from falling to democracy.
"Grain alcohol 🍸 and rainwater" 😅 so good 👍
Let an older fellow provide a bit of perspective: I saw this movie when it first came out. Now, it is a great comedy. Then it was still a comedy, but also terrifying. It references several things that younger people might not know.
1. Gen Ripper is not just some individual nut case. His profile is that of the "John Birch Society", which at the time, was fairly strong. They saw a vast conspiracy against democracy, and produced a book called "None Dare call it Conspiracy." Unfortunately they saw the conspiracy as communist, and they did promote the idea of fluoridation as a Communist plot, including the idea that it was "sapping our precious bodily fluids", which would eventually destroy us from within. There were many Birchers in the U.S. military leadership.
2. Peace was kept by an insane and flawed doctrine known as MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). The idea that no one could survive, or win a nuclear war, would function as a deterrent, and make nuclear war impossible. However The USSR (Russia), was way behind the U.S in building nuclear missiles. Many in the U.S. military and CIA pushed for the idea of a "Pearl Harbor-like" preemptive nuclear strike, to take out the USSR, in a surprise attack, before it could obtain parity, and the "opportunity" might disappear. Discussions were held, as to what would be "acceptable losses" for the U.S., including entire cities, and numbering in the millions. Documents declassified in the 1990's, show that President Kennedy was being pushed in that direction. We came closer in the Cuban Missile Crisis, than most of us imagine.
So, insanity ruled on many levels, and the danger of starting a nuclear war by miscalculation, was real, as it is today, in the ongoing "demonization" of Russia.
I worked at The RAND Corporation for awhile in the late Reagan era. They had done all the math and the policy analysis about nukewar losses back in Strangelove times; there was still evidence of it everywhere at the HQ; they boasted about it. .
@@roberthaworth8991Referred to in the film as “The Bland Corporation”!
Hayden is perfect in this scene, a great actor who often belittled himself because he was also a very decent man. But Sellers, of course, is also amazing. He goes from affable yet slightly puzzled, to stern, to defeated and hopeless when he's witnessing a man's complete insanity and the fact he might very well trigger the end of the world
There is no doubt that Peter Sellers was brilliant in this movie and SHOULD have won an Academy Award, but Sterling Hayden's performance was incredible too. Stanley Kubrick.. man what a director.
This whole movie is GLORIOUS. I was lucky enough to see it at a cinema at a screening some years ago, black & white movies seen at "the flix" is lovely, the clarity and sharpness of the image is outstanding.
The cigar.
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
I gotta say, in this scene I don't think a cigar _is_ just a cigar
@@horacemcporace9911 The cigar emphasizes Sterling Hayden's character's giant phallus, and its ability to invigorate and purify all of humanity with its Precious Bodily Fluids.
Ripper is a 5g truther now
I laughed in spite of myself because of how much I hate the accuracy.
“While we’re chatting here so enjoyably” lmfao
Fun fact: Sterling Hayden was first offered the role of Quint in Jaws but turned it down...
I just can't see Hayden being as convincing when telling the U.S.S. Indianapolis sharks story to his younger, greener shipmates
Busted for hash in Toronto! Even better.
Sterling Hayden was such a great character: totally wasted by the entertainment industry
You mean great actor.
Sterling Hayden didn't like acting. He only did it because it paid so well and allowed him to buy boats. He enjoyed sailing and acting paid for that pursuit. No one "wasted" Sterling Hayden, except Sterling Hayden. Read his autobiography "Wanderer" and you'll understand.
He was a fascinating person. He was a mariner, an OSS officer during WWII and he grew to hate Hollywood and ultimately left it.
@@nyuszicsib I think he means 'character actor', so between the two of you you got it.
Really good in The Killing
Fantastic film.
Folks...it doesn't get better than this
I remember the first time watching this. Here, the first time you hear Ripper say fluids is when you realize you're watching a dark comedy.
Even darker if you read the name plate of the general: Jack D. Ripper (Jack the Ripper the infamous murderer who ripped to pieces eight prostitutes in the East End of London in 1888).
"Now this McKlusky is definitely on Solozzo's payroll and for big money".....
Ripper locking the doors while Mandrake rambles to him not paying attention, then Mandrake a few moments later uselessly trying to take control and realising the doors are locked cracks me up every time I see it.
...while we're chatting here so enjoyably...
And now here we are..... Amazing.
Sellers was so good in this film. The whole cast was good - for example, Sterling Hayden in this and other scenes.
I heard that when Ronald Reagan came into office he asked to see the War Room at the Pentagon. Imagine how disappointed he was to find out it doesn't exist.
I don’t if that’s true, but the term “war room” is a very real one and could be at the Pentagon or some other place en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_center
Actually there is such a room.
@@StudSupreme yes, there are. .. Cheyenne Mountain for one.
National Military Command Center: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Military_Command_Center
Sellers 50s upper class English accent is absolutely spot on.What a brilliant mimic he was
the greatest comedic effort in the history of cinema
"'Feed me,' you said and I fed you."
Total commitment!
"Well if you excuse me sir that seems a rather...odd way of looking at it." 💀
*_First time I saw this movie I didn't know it was a comedy so I felt like I wasn't allowed to laugh at scenes that were absolutely hilarious._*
“Sap and `impurify`! ~ Gen. Jack Ripper
Mandrake is actually genuinely somewhat heroic in the film
President Muffley as well as he without hesitation goes to defuse the situation presented to him. Even Major Kong has his moments seeing his personal courage and competence.
This film has three heroes (of which should not succeed) and two villains of which one is incapable of seeing gravity of situation.
In these days of remote working from home and video conferencing, I often use "while we're chatting here so enjoyably" and am constantly disappointed people don't get the reference.
What makes this scene so damn funny is the seriousness of it... both characters are played with max effort.
Wow!! The camera angle...Kubrick still rules👉💎👈
I have no idea what it is, but there's something special about the camera angle they used on Ripper with his cigar.
Shooting a character from below like this imports power and authority to the character. You, as the viewer, are literally looking up to him!
I love this film. everything about it.
3:49
'total commitment."
Apart from the sheer brilliance of this, I would like to know how Sterling Hayden can keep a Cuban cigar like that in his mouth and speak at the same time?
Notice the way it was shot. when he's all proud and confident talking about what he did, Mandrake keeps the cigar erect in a phalic manner. I'm sure done purposely by Kubrick.
@@mikepastor.k6233 I can do it [speak] holding a pencil between my teeth: beat that!
@@None-zc5vg I guess. If its anatomically correct..
I HAVEN'T HAD A GOOD 👍
CUBAN CIGAR !!! Since Fidel Castro, went COMMUNIST !!!
Such a brilliantly acted scene in one of the best movies of all time
Gr8 movie. One of the best satirical war movies. Scuttlebutt is Sterling Hayden had already retired from acting. He had to be persuaded to return for this. Can't think of anyone else who could have portrayed the psychotic Gen. Ripper. But as you already said, camera angles, lighting, superior acting by the players all played a part.
Came out of retirement a few years later as well for his role as Captain Mccluskey in The Godfather Part 1
This was Haydon's dream role. He was born to play Ripper and he played other great roles in great films like The Asphalt Jungle, The Killing and The Godfather.
3:50
"Do you recall what Clemenza once said about war?"
"I don't think I do sir, no."
"He said leave the gun, take the cannoli."
Best acting and filming ever.
Peter Sellers and Alec Guinness were very good friends. Sellers ad libs a tribute to his friend's award winning film "Bridge on the River Kwai," that his Group Captain Mandrake character had been a POW building a railroad thru the jungle for the Japanese, under the command of another loonie
Ripper - genius. Thx!
Totally!
@@vladimirkasperovich3466 Da!!!
Of the greatest scenes in cinema.
As the size of the explosion increases, the number of problems it cannot solve approaches zero
Its absolutely crazy how much he is saying became true.
I thought I had all those ginny radios locked up!!!
I approve of this clip.
I can’t stop laughing from the dialogue to the delivery, to the acting of both men. It’s so perfect.
Grain alcohol and rainwater 👍
This would be Patton in real life if he lived this long.
I'm pretty sure I've never seen a better written, directed and acted film by an ensemble cast in my entire life. This topic must be viewed through the lense of black comedy, in my opinion, because there's no way to portray the seriousness sufficiently through strict drama. Each person must see the dark irony and stupidity of such a notion as successfully waging nuclear war for his or herself. Kubrick's mastery at its peak.
You're going to have to answer to the Coca Cola Company.
@@kerrysmith1899 Yeah. That's private property.
Yep.
after all we don't want to start a nuclear war unless we have to...MAD
Fantastic upload Gen Riper!!!
This movie showcased SIX, count’em, SIX academy awards: Best Actors: Peter Sellars, Sterling Hayden, Slim Pickins, George C. Scott. Best Director: Stanley Kubrick, Best Picture: Dr. Strangelove!
Forget Dr. Strangelove. Dr. Freud, call your office!
"I frisked a thousand young punks!" sorry wrong movie.
context?
"Please make me a drink of grain alcohol and rainwater, and help yourself to whatever you'd like." (As the thermonuclear payload is minutes from Russian airspace.) Hmmm, something tells me this fella is a bit off.
Well his name is Jack D. Ripper ,LOL
He refused to drink vodka because it was what Russians drink. Just grain alcohol and water.
@@weedeater62 He was the most level headed, rational character in the film, Number Eight...
Respect Mandrake's authoritah.
"grain alcohol and rain water"🤣
Pretty much a perfect movie.
excellent angles
I learn something everyday from this movie. thank you. thank you. thank you
this, this is how you write a scene
I wish films were made like this today. What do we have? F---n Saw 9 and Star Wars 14.
The Death of Stalin was a comedy in the spirit of Dr Strangelove--horrifying and hilarious
Though not quite as brilliant as Dr. Strangelove, Death of Stalin is absolutely a must watch. "...something quite complicated about a voucher system"
Have patience.
@Kyle Blank so try to watch Legion series :)
@@bernardwelt The Death of Stalin was trash. It was slapstick meets mass murderers. Stalin, Beria, and company were not funny in any sense of the word. It was a ripoff of a Three Stooges short about Hitler.
We have to preserve the purety of esence
I credit Stanley Kubrick (RIP) for the success of this great movie.
We sure needed your opinion. Now go f yourself..